Jake no no no no no no no no noooooooooooo. Not even gonna explain why because you already know! #makeyourownstuff #independantjake #simp4jake #alllttemployeesareslavesnotreallyjustkiddimgforlikesandalonghashtagtho
Jake don't do furniture reviews again... Your outstanding talent is how chucking clever you are fixing deep dive stuff! Reviewing chairs is asenine #insertjustsaynomemehere
The chair doesn't roll easily with weight on because they're "braking" castors. so people dont roll around while sitting. Apparently a new thing. It moves easier when the weight is off.
As a heavy boi myself, and despite CM's update on the back rest, that chair clearly isn't made to handle leaning back on it... It's been the issue for most of my office chairs, until i just got one from IKEA and asked someone to cut a steel "L" bracket to go reinforce the bottom cushion and back joint, between the cushions and the arm rests because again, when the only thing connecting those two is plastic, it's bound to break.
@@JustinDavis90 good to know! I had one IKEA Millberget fail completely at the arm rests (which hold the back of the chair) and a second one starting to go before I got the aforementioned steel "L" brackets. Those seem to have solved the situation though.
after going through several decent quallity office chairs, as a big tall but not absurdly heavy person i was frustrated with soposidly good office chairs just NOT holding up to my level of apparent abuse. so i bought a 2nd hand recliner, it has a heavy metal frame thats sturdy and robust. im able to use it all day long every day, its wider than a normal chair so im able to switch seating positions, and it has held up for multiple years rather than less than 1.
It's crazy that it bends that easy, but what does the chair list as the weight limit of the chair? I like Jake's review. It's more of how a normal (non media) person would review it.
@@rheawelsh4142 My chair is up to 110, I'm around 100, and if i put my legs on the desk or in the air in general it starts to lower, so yeah. Wouldn't believe any statement on the product unless it's field tested
I'm a long time fan of The Buttkicker audio transducers. I have one on my couch in the living room and the gaming edition mounted on my Secret Lab. Up until recently you had to use something like Voicemeeter to split your audio output and adjust the amp just as you would for a sub. Buttkicker though just came out with their own software with hand tuned plugins for games. I tried it with Flight Sim and Forza and it's a much better experience since the haptics are specifically tuned (and you can adjust everything). I highly recommend it for anyone looking for that "4d" haptic feedback - no need to buy a new chair!
I just had one of those appear in an ad recently & am currently working on building a sim rig. Glad to hear it's a good product! Might have to pick one up.
Since I just parked on a new SecretLab, I thought of Buttkickers as well while watching the video. Reading that they have their own software which works well, I'm seriously considering buying Buttkicker now =D
It's impressive what Voicemeeter can do for routing audio between interfaces, devices, and apps, but for god's sake somebody needs to grab those guys by the scruff of the neck and tell them to FIX THEIR DAMN UI. It's not intuitive at all. It's convoluted and buggy. The system settings panel is a nightmare to navigate. Sometimes features work out of the box. Sometimes they require an interface reset, a system reset, a device manager refresh, and proper alignment of all the celestial bodies just to get a device to appear in a drop-down menu. And sometimes after you've set everything up _juuuuuust_ right, it says "fuck you" and reverts back to previous settings after a restart. God forbid you have a VB-audio cable in use somewhere as well, as that app also loves to make up its own mind about what the sample and buffer sizes should be, overriding all system and ASIO settings and requiring a reboot... which resets the voicemeeter settings. I would kill for a very cut-down, simplified version of Voicemeeter with a single-window visual patch cable UI and the ability to run their own VST plugins. That's all most people need. And visualizing the signal paths, sources, and outputs as a series of patch cables would do a lot to clear up any confusion during the setup process, ESPECIALLY when something in the chain isn't working. It sucks having to scrap a setup and brute force it with a DAW every time Voicemeeter wants to throw a fit. Most of the free VST hosts out there are able to do great stuff to the audio with super low latency, but if the VB-audio apps refuse to recognize the signal I'm putting into the patch insert... nothing I can do about that. If there's a lean, non-DAW alternative to Voicemeeter I'd love to try it. I wanna yeet Voicemeeter into the sun.
I think Jake needs to do more chair reviews. I'm not as much of a giant as he is, but I'm DEFINITELY bigger than Colton, and "this chair bent during standard operation" is an important data point that our tiny fired friend simply couldn't have presented
6'4", 200-210 pounds at any given time- definitely feel you there, I had to go all the way into "four digit price tag office chair" territory to get a seat that was durable enough for my fat ass
I have a Cooler Master Ergo L and despite it's 200kg weight capacity, the metal frame that holds the back to the base has snapped. I really need to pull it apart and see if there is anything that I can do to "fix" it or, failing that, get a new chair. I will be keeping the wheel base and gas lift for any new chair though, that part is rock solid.
I would love to see more Jake doing chairs, I'm roughly his size and it's impossible to find good chairs of any kind, listings are vague about weight limits, build quality varies wildly, and worst of all, not a single one I've sat in has been able to keep the back perfectly vertical which makes you look so far down when reclined you get headaches from the neck strain. Please! More Jake chair reviews!
A lot of budget gaming chairs have that issue with the back bending over time. I think they get away with it by saying max capacity of 200lbs. But no matter what weight you are, you can bend it with your arms lol
Also, a lot of chairs have the exact same fixture (as in just the one metal bit in the middle) and it won't bend in normal use, it's meant to be slightly springy. I think it's a problem with poor choice of material and on a chair this expensive that's inexcusable oversight. And same for the caster wheels. Sure, you can replace them for something else, but at this price point these basic wheels should not even be an option.
There's two possibilities: the facility that actually manufactured the chair is grifting and cheaping out on properly spec'd components (see also the trials and tribulations of the LTT screwdriver), or the underlying design doesn't support people over a certain weight threshold (typically 200 pounds in a lot of cheap office chairs).
Mild steel and too thin. Ideally you'd design reinforcement in there, like a stamped channel, or use a MUCH thicker piece. This is why basic cheap office chairs never use just a metal plate for that whole area where the backrest is connected to the seat base, it's generally a flattened tube on the backrest and a welded multi sided piece on the seat, and that's not a high end feature, that's what you expect to find for $40.
You know you're in the future when your chair comes with power consumption figures. I thought that was limited to dentists, the starship enterprise, and death row.
That chair definitely wasn't made for Jake's weight. I'm 200lbs and I'm pretty much at the limit of what a normal chair can take. Corsair for example says you should get the XL chairs for anything between 80-120kg. I'm not saying that the single piece connecting the back rest is a good idea, but I don't think it will get bent under normal use conditions with someone within the weight limit of the chair.
I know you said it's a pre production unit but that bending flaw is still too much. It's not like you just got a bad unit, that's bound to happen on all of them...
@@TheAlaskaAdam someone's weight doesn't change the fact that if you push back on the back of the chair it bends. Someone like Linus would also cause this to happen if they pushed on it
The problem is the tilting system is locked (like 10:13 ) If he open it, the back-part will reset. But the iron part was broken when 10:17 By Taiwanese chair manufacturer
@@TheAlaskaAdam The only people buying expensive office chairs are home-office workers who spend most of their time in front of a desk. Add the fact that they are selling in Canada and the US and it's not hard to imagine the weight it's supposed to be designed for.
@@TheAlaskaAdam A) I’m his size and only weigh 245 B) even if he is 300 pounds if him simply using the chair normally bend the frame that easily not even a 200 pound person should be using it.
I actually just did a cheap under $100 transducer setup and its super easy to do. For racing games and vibration you should be using sim hub to configure it on PC.
What's the bet that in less than a year someone will hurt themselves on the broken bit of metal left after the back snaps off and sues the company? I'll say 85% odds in favour of a lawsuit.
ROFL I love how he's typical of us dudes, where we smell something terrible and we're like "better smell it 4 more times and convince a friend to smell it"
@Rafał Sobczyk that frame bending is SO bad lol. I can't believe it's coolermaster I straight up did not pay attention and assumed it was a sketchy Chinese brand.
Yeah, I’m not sure how they justified the price. Better off just mounting a 12 inch sub to the back of a secretlab. The same effect with 10 times the quality, at half the price. Lmao
@@DankoleClouds ahahha I can imagine now someone strapping on a huge sub like a shitty car mod and accidentally ejaculating when they launch a bassy game 🤣
Home theater nerds have been doing this for a while with bass shakers. If you really wanted to do this on a gaming chair I'd recommend just buying a high end chair from haworth, herman miller, steel case, or a similar high end brand. Then get 1 or two bass shakers. The BST-2 would probably be plenty for an office chair. The BST-1 would be a good upgrade. A small 2 channel amp would be required to power them. Something like a fosi bt20a or a nobsound G2. Mount the bass shakers to the bottom of the chair. Ideally in the middle for 1 shaker, or offset evenly on the left and right for 2. Find a secure spot to mount the amp. Run speaker wire between your bass shaker(s) and amp. Run an aux from your amp to your audio device (pc, headphone amp, interface, etc...). You may need an aux y splitter and rca to aux adapter. Then plug your amp into the wall and voila. Bass shaking office/gaming chair. The quality of your setup will entirely depend on how securely you mount your shakers. Clean wiring will also be necessary so you don't trip over yourself. You can get higher end amps and shakers if you want to go overkill but for a less than 40lb chair you probably don't need any more than a 35w shaker. This also wouldn't work to great on any chair with a mesh seat. So aeron fans, sucks to suck I guess.
Had two CM chairs, the first last about 2 years and was comfortable, but I had to add a second cushion and arm rest pads after a few months. The second I only had for about 4 months before selling it because of how incredibly uncomfortable it was almost immediately, ended up just biting the bullet and getting a SecretLab like I should have originally. I like CMs comp hardware, but I feel like they're more interested in making their chairs look good than being comfortable.
@@kainan613 I ended up with a CM Ergo L because Secret Labs had a 6 months waiting list on their chairs and I needed a new chair now. I would have spent less on the Secret Labs chair while (hopefully) still having a working chair 3 years later.
Overall, it’s cool to see electronics added onto a gaming chair! I wish it was more modular where you could put your own designed or third party arm rests (and maybe even your own electronics like RGB arm rests).
Not to be rude, but chairs have a weight rating.. I know this because when I was buying my chair, I saw the rating and had to change the model.. Maybe the casters and the back problem is... 💀
So wondering what the weight rating of the chair is? It's kind of important to know that. If you are exceeding that limit and the chair is bending or breaking It's not the chairs fault. As a heavy dude myself weight rating is one of the first things I look for when buying a chair because it can be both the coolest and cheapest chair in the world but it's not rated to hold my weight there's no point for me to buy it because I can't use it.
I like that Jake was honest and critical of the product when often short circuits come off as advertisements of products with no real in-depth usage. I know this is primarily an unboxing channel, but there are valid opinions on products other than “this is amazing”. Honestly I’d love to see a Channel with primarily negative or critical remarks by products
I've had plenty a chairs from office depot to say that most chair manufacturers cheap out on that metal column on the back, and me being a heavy guy, gave 'em hell in no time. I had to return at least 5 chairs for the same problem. Until I finally went for an expensive "ergonomic" office chair from a specialty store which it still works after 6 years, then gaming chairs popped up and 90% use the same metal column so I stayed away from them lol
Please have Jake review more chairs. It's really useful having larger people review chairs since it's surprisingly hard to find. Also, how have the Secret Lab chairs held up around the office?
Wow they really should have held off sending them one of these until it’s more fleshed out and polished, because I’m assuming there’s no way they’re gonna be able to sell these for less than $600, and even for half that of that price the thing seems like total crap.
Yes it does sound like the build quality isn’t up to snuff with the preproduction but are we going to glass over the elephant in the room? Like other chair companies there are sizing and I think Jake it a bit to big for that chair 😅
I'm quite happy with my Secret Lab 2020 Titan. The packaging was a great presentation in itself. The chair from top to bottom is excellent quality. I've conditioned the material a few times and followed all of the recommendations secret lab suggests and it still looks and feels brand new. Only mentioning it because it's the bar I set for me when I see chairs like this in videos.
@@Aleskoo100 I have a 2020 version - they're still just over $400. There hasn't been that much of an increase at least for those and you can still purchase them
Chairs that have a reclining function often are only supported from the middle and have no side supports. Often they can be set to recline if you lean back or tightened down to hold position. The question is are you bending it or is the adjustment tight enough to hold it in place but not so tight to prevent changing the angle when any force is applied. My chair has two recline functions, one you can lock it in place at any angle and another that adjust how much it will recline. If I don't tighten the lock down fully it will slowly recline if I lean back on it and it will stay reclined when I lean forward just like that chair did. I have the lock fully opened and max recline when I am using mose and keyboard I don't use the chair back and if I am watching something I like to recline.
10:50 but does it actually bend ? Maybe the way you adjust the back is by "bending" it this way? as long as the connection bracket doesnt move/ bend itself it might actually be intended, especially with the 135 degree range
Meh. Any friction mechanism like that would weaken over time anyway. And like what… you lean over too far and you gotta get up to fix your chair? Nah that’s poor ass design. Pun intended.
@@GuardedDragon yeah im not saying its a wise design choice but the way jake is wording it makes it sound, atleast to me, like it is broken which is probably not the case
The problem is the tilting system is locked (like 10:13 ) If he open it, the back-part will reset. But the iron part was broken when 10:17 By Taiwanese chair manufacturer
@@user-hi3qx3sc8i Probably designed for a 130lb Taiwanese dude, not a 300lb North American. He definitely broke something leaning back on it like that.
I don't normally 👍 videos, but ya got mine for this one. Jake is pure Chaos mixed with Honesty is the best combination for a review. Side-note: as a gamer the arm rests REALLY need to be comfy and not hard-anything otherwise my arms get shredded over time. :)
Seeing some brainlet comments here, so I just wanna say: If Jake is apparently so overweight that people think it’s his fault the chair’s bending, he must have Herculean arm strength to be able to bend it by hand.
It would make a lot more sense if they were to use a battery bank to power it instead of a wall plug. That way you don't risk running over the cord and ripping it out of the chair or the wall. Maybe give you a pair of them so you can charge one without needing it plugged into the wall. Or if they were to partner with a power tool company like Milwaukee or Ryobi for powering it.
It does have an internal battery, they just didn't charge it after opening the box and before turning it on for the review so it only lasted a dozen minutes before they had to plug it in while testing. Jake even asked aloud "I wonder how much charge it has from the factory" before he looked for a charge level indicator.
Jake, as a fellow chonky guy who's recently bought a new chair and had to pay attention to the spec sheet... are you sure you're not just too much man for the chair?
Looks so cool and I was actually looking for a new chair but I'm a bit of a slouch and a heavy boi so the backrest bending is a no-go. Guess I'm back to waiting for SL nappa to get back in stock
That's not actually true, the foam comes out nearly stink-free out of the chemical process. It's when the foam or the furniture is stored somewhere where they have these horrible mothballs against giant insects, that's where the smell comes from.
@@SianaGearz I would agree with you if that’s what they said it smelled like, but they specifically said ‘paint’ which is chemicals used to make cheap foam sadly. The rest of the review for sure also screams “as cheap as possible”
@@gqqggq7127 there are plenty of issues and risks. Don’t cheap out on stuff like this if you can. A cheap netted chair better then killing your lungs over this.
Gotta say, this chair is... Well, it's a chair. Not really interested in poor build quality, janky operation, and odd gimmicks. I'll stick with my Aeron. lmao Speaking of which, you fellas have rated other HM products, maybe the Aeron in the future? Could be neat to see a mesh seat get some attention!
Look into Subpac items. I’ve got the S2 and dude it’s the most amazing experience I’ve had at home. Haven’t used any other products like this so there may be better once, but I do not regret the purchase for a second.
at 3:08 - Some chairs lock the wheels when you sit on them. Idk if this is by design or a flaw but I've seen this on several chairs, mainly cheaper ones. But it's worth it to keep in mind
@@brad7957 yea but if it's fine with him it will be rock solid for the rest of the normies :) so from an obese mechanical engineer - this chair is not well designed.
genuinely great to see comment on the packing material. I know its not a huge deal regards the final quality of the product but it jsut irks me when waste like that is given a pass because we dont see it. Right, onto watch the rest of this chaos
@@Collin_J same and i wanna know if they are the best or if it is complete BS because they cost over a grand. they say they are the best and i want an experts opinion that I trust
@@vampirefox7 The "best" is pretty subjective when it comes to chairs. When I was looking for a new chair, I sat in a lot of very highly reviewed chairs at a local office supply store. If I were to review any of those chairs based on the few minutes I got to sit in them, they'd all be getting 1 star reviews for comfort. Most "ergonomic" chairs leave me with extreme lower back pain and numbness in my legs.
@@aaronthomas6155 yeah but they claim their the best. I also know nothing of ergonomics and will never spend a grand on a chair. Still I would love to see them review this product that keeps popping up during football ads
@@vampirefox7 I love chair reviews. I'm always looking for a better chair. I just have an extreme hatred for "ergonomic" chairs due to the aforementioned issues. A chair with proper "ergonomics" shouldn't cause such issues.
The chair tipping back would likely be less of an issue for someone like linus. Jake's a heavier dude so his weight on the back of the chair will matter more.
I'd be surprised if this dude was not over the recommended weight range of the chair. Edit: the max weight for the chair is 300lb, Jake is probably close to that.
@@quackatit Very true, the review was still of high quality, and I rank Jake in the top 2 hosts on the channel, right up at the top with Anthony. So don’t take my comment as a slight dig at his weight.
Jake needs to do more reviews - he brings a level of chaos that only Linus can be proud of
😂
2nd that.
@@bfg_travels "don't feature him, he's fat" weird comment
Jake is Linus's illegitimate son from.....
@gjoeyjoe by American standards he's thicc. And anyone probably would get bigger having a desk job too. My job burns calories
Colton looks a bit different in this one. I see that new high speed wifi has been treating him well
😂
But he's using powerline not wifi
He got fired
😂😂😂😂💀
Underrated comment bass head
this gives me the same vibes as those "gaming" chairs in the early 2010s with all the speakers in them
I need more Jake doing reviews, the pure chaos is just great lmfao
Jake no no no no no no no no noooooooooooo.
Not even gonna explain why because you already know!
#makeyourownstuff #independantjake #simp4jake #alllttemployeesareslavesnotreallyjustkiddimgforlikesandalonghashtagtho
Jake don't do furniture reviews again...
Your outstanding talent is how chucking clever you are fixing deep dive stuff! Reviewing chairs is asenine
#insertjustsaynomemehere
agreed lol
@@PhewChurz u so downbad for jake xD
@@PhewChurz Because he's fat?
The chair doesn't roll easily with weight on because they're "braking" castors. so people dont roll around while sitting. Apparently a new thing. It moves easier when the weight is off.
they seem super annoying tho
the jake weight, which is nothing to neglect
@@TheDeathSinger i can see the usefulness for playing sim racing, since i have regular caster, and when braking i get pushed back
Braking castors usually work the other way around, when you get up they lock so your chair doesn't go on an adventure.
But as Jake said, the castors can be replaced relatively easily. If the wheels were the only problem with the chair, everybody could overlook it.
As a heavy boi myself, and despite CM's update on the back rest, that chair clearly isn't made to handle leaning back on it...
It's been the issue for most of my office chairs, until i just got one from IKEA and asked someone to cut a steel "L" bracket to go reinforce the bottom cushion and back joint, between the cushions and the arm rests because again, when the only thing connecting those two is plastic, it's bound to break.
Likely this chair was rated for around 200 pounds which I think Jake exceeds .
I finally broke down and bought a sayl. Handles my 300lbs blob just fine. No signs of quitting, yet.
@@mpshatesyou yeah, I meant leaning back on it while being heavier set 😅
@@JustinDavis90 good to know! I had one IKEA Millberget fail completely at the arm rests (which hold the back of the chair) and a second one starting to go before I got the aforementioned steel "L" brackets. Those seem to have solved the situation though.
after going through several decent quallity office chairs, as a big tall but not absurdly heavy person i was frustrated with soposidly good office chairs just NOT holding up to my level of apparent abuse.
so i bought a 2nd hand recliner, it has a heavy metal frame thats sturdy and robust. im able to use it all day long every day, its wider than a normal chair so im able to switch seating positions, and it has held up for multiple years rather than less than 1.
It's crazy that it bends that easy, but what does the chair list as the weight limit of the chair? I like Jake's review. It's more of how a normal (non media) person would review it.
On the website they list 300lbs as the weight limit, and I doubt Jake is over that
@@rheawelsh4142 My chair is up to 110, I'm around 100, and if i put my legs on the desk or in the air in general it starts to lower, so yeah. Wouldn't believe any statement on the product unless it's field tested
@@rheawelsh4142 I don't know how tall he is, but if he's super tall he isn't far off..
The chair weight limit is: NOT Jake!
@@SpkillerGaming
He looks about average height comparing him to Linus. I'd guess he's a similar weight to me, 250-260 or so.
Peak gamer body. No other reviewer can perform such rigorous tests.
Bro needs a bro though
This comment is pure gold.
Dude was out of breath 1 minute in.
Honestly he should've worn a different shirt LMAO
@@ECGProductions092 I think you mean he should've worn a bra
I'm a long time fan of The Buttkicker audio transducers. I have one on my couch in the living room and the gaming edition mounted on my Secret Lab. Up until recently you had to use something like Voicemeeter to split your audio output and adjust the amp just as you would for a sub. Buttkicker though just came out with their own software with hand tuned plugins for games. I tried it with Flight Sim and Forza and it's a much better experience since the haptics are specifically tuned (and you can adjust everything). I highly recommend it for anyone looking for that "4d" haptic feedback - no need to buy a new chair!
I just had one of those appear in an ad recently & am currently working on building a sim rig. Glad to hear it's a good product! Might have to pick one up.
Since I just parked on a new SecretLab, I thought of Buttkickers as well while watching the video. Reading that they have their own software which works well, I'm seriously considering buying Buttkicker now =D
It's impressive what Voicemeeter can do for routing audio between interfaces, devices, and apps, but for god's sake somebody needs to grab those guys by the scruff of the neck and tell them to FIX THEIR DAMN UI.
It's not intuitive at all. It's convoluted and buggy. The system settings panel is a nightmare to navigate. Sometimes features work out of the box. Sometimes they require an interface reset, a system reset, a device manager refresh, and proper alignment of all the celestial bodies just to get a device to appear in a drop-down menu. And sometimes after you've set everything up _juuuuuust_ right, it says "fuck you" and reverts back to previous settings after a restart. God forbid you have a VB-audio cable in use somewhere as well, as that app also loves to make up its own mind about what the sample and buffer sizes should be, overriding all system and ASIO settings and requiring a reboot... which resets the voicemeeter settings.
I would kill for a very cut-down, simplified version of Voicemeeter with a single-window visual patch cable UI and the ability to run their own VST plugins. That's all most people need. And visualizing the signal paths, sources, and outputs as a series of patch cables would do a lot to clear up any confusion during the setup process, ESPECIALLY when something in the chain isn't working. It sucks having to scrap a setup and brute force it with a DAW every time Voicemeeter wants to throw a fit. Most of the free VST hosts out there are able to do great stuff to the audio with super low latency, but if the VB-audio apps refuse to recognize the signal I'm putting into the patch insert... nothing I can do about that.
If there's a lean, non-DAW alternative to Voicemeeter I'd love to try it. I wanna yeet Voicemeeter into the sun.
I think Jake needs to do more chair reviews. I'm not as much of a giant as he is, but I'm DEFINITELY bigger than Colton, and "this chair bent during standard operation" is an important data point that our tiny fired friend simply couldn't have presented
6'4", 200-210 pounds at any given time- definitely feel you there, I had to go all the way into "four digit price tag office chair" territory to get a seat that was durable enough for my fat ass
I have a Cooler Master Ergo L and despite it's 200kg weight capacity, the metal frame that holds the back to the base has snapped. I really need to pull it apart and see if there is anything that I can do to "fix" it or, failing that, get a new chair. I will be keeping the wheel base and gas lift for any new chair though, that part is rock solid.
@@g3intel 200 pounds is like 100kg, I mean most chairs can handle this weight I thought?
Is it fair to say that's "standard operation" when so many of these chairs state their maximum capacity is 200 lbs or so?
I would love to see more Jake doing chairs, I'm roughly his size and it's impossible to find good chairs of any kind, listings are vague about weight limits, build quality varies wildly, and worst of all, not a single one I've sat in has been able to keep the back perfectly vertical which makes you look so far down when reclined you get headaches from the neck strain. Please! More Jake chair reviews!
Oh, I think I got it... its not memory foam, its memory metal. Probably just a slight translation mishap in the spec sheet... 😇
You could win a chess tournament with this chair
Hell yeah
Underrated comment!
Most of us can't gape enough to fit it inside
Can’t believe they had to let Colton go again after his last chair review.
I don't know why they keep hiring him back just to fire him again.
@@404missing8 Linus gets a tax benefit
@@aakashk530 Yeah, but that means they can't hire him back for another 30 days or else it counts as a Colton wash sale.
@@pirojfmifhghek566 hired as a temp through a shell agency for 30 days before rehire
I laughed so hard in this review. Awesome job! I'd love to see more. He is so funny
Ugh another thing to charge. As if my 2 smartphones once every 2 days arent enough.
@@fynkozari9271 no one is forcing you to buy anything, shhh
"Not a big chair guy??"
*Tries to remember a single time I've seen Jake sitting down*
He's a *big chair* guy, not a big *chair guy*
A lot of budget gaming chairs have that issue with the back bending over time. I think they get away with it by saying max capacity of 200lbs. But no matter what weight you are, you can bend it with your arms lol
Also, a lot of chairs have the exact same fixture (as in just the one metal bit in the middle) and it won't bend in normal use, it's meant to be slightly springy. I think it's a problem with poor choice of material and on a chair this expensive that's inexcusable oversight. And same for the caster wheels. Sure, you can replace them for something else, but at this price point these basic wheels should not even be an option.
They posted it in the video max 300 pounds for this chair. You wouldn’t think it would do this..
How can the metal of a chair be so weak that just sitting on it permanently shifts it?
They probably broke something.
Made of mild steel.
There's two possibilities: the facility that actually manufactured the chair is grifting and cheaping out on properly spec'd components (see also the trials and tribulations of the LTT screwdriver), or the underlying design doesn't support people over a certain weight threshold (typically 200 pounds in a lot of cheap office chairs).
Mild steel and too thin. Ideally you'd design reinforcement in there, like a stamped channel, or use a MUCH thicker piece. This is why basic cheap office chairs never use just a metal plate for that whole area where the backrest is connected to the seat base, it's generally a flattened tube on the backrest and a welded multi sided piece on the seat, and that's not a high end feature, that's what you expect to find for $40.
@@kole081 He's a really big guy too, that much weight probably not intended to just be put on it at that angle
You know you're in the future when your chair comes with power consumption figures. I thought that was limited to dentists, the starship enterprise, and death row.
With such measly power draw they should use USB C for charging.
@@karolwesoek5350 YOU SHOULDN'T NEED TO RECHARGE YOUR CHAIR!
That chair definitely wasn't made for Jake's weight. I'm 200lbs and I'm pretty much at the limit of what a normal chair can take. Corsair for example says you should get the XL chairs for anything between 80-120kg. I'm not saying that the single piece connecting the back rest is a good idea, but I don't think it will get bent under normal use conditions with someone within the weight limit of the chair.
I know you said it's a pre production unit but that bending flaw is still too much. It's not like you just got a bad unit, that's bound to happen on all of them...
@@TheAlaskaAdam someone's weight doesn't change the fact that if you push back on the back of the chair it bends. Someone like Linus would also cause this to happen if they pushed on it
The problem is the tilting system is locked (like 10:13 )
If he open it, the back-part will reset.
But the iron part was broken when 10:17
By Taiwanese chair manufacturer
@@TheAlaskaAdam The only people buying expensive office chairs are home-office workers who spend most of their time in front of a desk. Add the fact that they are selling in Canada and the US and it's not hard to imagine the weight it's supposed to be designed for.
@@TheAlaskaAdam A) I’m his size and only weigh 245 B) even if he is 300 pounds if him simply using the chair normally bend the frame that easily not even a 200 pound person should be using it.
@@TheAlaskaAdam He's saying North Americans are fat. And I can tell you, he's right.
Sincerely, a fat North American.
I actually just did a cheap under $100 transducer setup and its super easy to do. For racing games and vibration you should be using sim hub to configure it on PC.
yep, spend like 40€ to update my sim rig with bass shakers
What's the bet that in less than a year someone will hurt themselves on the broken bit of metal left after the back snaps off and sues the company? I'll say 85% odds in favour of a lawsuit.
I think Santa Linus needs to bring Jake some Vessi shoes
ROFL I love how he's typical of us dudes, where we smell something terrible and we're like "better smell it 4 more times and convince a friend to smell it"
Always have to have my wife or friends try food that tastes awful as well. Hahaha
The MSRP of this chair is supposedly $1,299.
That's wild.
Yeah for that much I'd just be hitting up a Herman Miller dealer. Which I did cause they're the go to.
@@batt3ryac1d Who needs a chair with 20 year life span when you can have a chair that vibrates your ass and bends the frame after 10 minutes
@Rafał Sobczyk that frame bending is SO bad lol. I can't believe it's coolermaster I straight up did not pay attention and assumed it was a sketchy Chinese brand.
Yeah, I’m not sure how they justified the price. Better off just mounting a 12 inch sub to the back of a secretlab. The same effect with 10 times the quality, at half the price. Lmao
@@DankoleClouds ahahha I can imagine now someone strapping on a huge sub like a shitty car mod and accidentally ejaculating when they launch a bassy game 🤣
Home theater nerds have been doing this for a while with bass shakers. If you really wanted to do this on a gaming chair I'd recommend just buying a high end chair from haworth, herman miller, steel case, or a similar high end brand. Then get 1 or two bass shakers. The BST-2 would probably be plenty for an office chair. The BST-1 would be a good upgrade. A small 2 channel amp would be required to power them. Something like a fosi bt20a or a nobsound G2.
Mount the bass shakers to the bottom of the chair. Ideally in the middle for 1 shaker, or offset evenly on the left and right for 2. Find a secure spot to mount the amp. Run speaker wire between your bass shaker(s) and amp. Run an aux from your amp to your audio device (pc, headphone amp, interface, etc...). You may need an aux y splitter and rca to aux adapter. Then plug your amp into the wall and voila. Bass shaking office/gaming chair.
The quality of your setup will entirely depend on how securely you mount your shakers. Clean wiring will also be necessary so you don't trip over yourself. You can get higher end amps and shakers if you want to go overkill but for a less than 40lb chair you probably don't need any more than a 35w shaker. This also wouldn't work to great on any chair with a mesh seat. So aeron fans, sucks to suck I guess.
This is honestly one of the funniest videos I've seen in a while
"OH, IT SHAKES IN DIFFERENT AREAS😃"
Had two CM chairs, the first last about 2 years and was comfortable, but I had to add a second cushion and arm rest pads after a few months. The second I only had for about 4 months before selling it because of how incredibly uncomfortable it was almost immediately, ended up just biting the bullet and getting a SecretLab like I should have originally. I like CMs comp hardware, but I feel like they're more interested in making their chairs look good than being comfortable.
2 years is still terrible for a chair
2 years for a chair is very short, I'd avoid CM chairs completely. Get a secretlab something or pony up for an Aeron
@@kainan613 I ended up with a CM Ergo L because Secret Labs had a 6 months waiting list on their chairs and I needed a new chair now. I would have spent less on the Secret Labs chair while (hopefully) still having a working chair 3 years later.
Colton's not here? did he get fired again?
Editor: Been awhile since a video made me laugh out loud. Loved your jokes messing with Jake's face and instant replays! Keep up the good work.
As a 6' 3" 250lb man, I really appreciated Jake testing chairs. Please make him a guest in Colton's videos
Hefty guy opening a big box, fyi *involves vibrating*
Overall, it’s cool to see electronics added onto a gaming chair! I wish it was more modular where you could put your own designed or third party arm rests (and maybe even your own electronics like RGB arm rests).
Not to be rude, but chairs have a weight rating.. I know this because when I was buying my chair, I saw the rating and had to change the model.. Maybe the casters and the back problem is... 💀
136kg
Do you think he’s more than 300 pounds 😂
@@E13IDK idk man 😹
@@E13IDK For a chonky guy he's also tall, so it's not impossible. Still, a chair like that, at that price, should be able to take it.
@10:15 check the weight limit for the chair I bet Jake is well over the limit. Those things are usually only rated to like 240 pounds.
Checked their site. Limit is 300lbs and it's pretty obvious Jake is more than that.
@@IRMacGuyver maybe not? I don't think he's particularly tall and fat does not weigh that much compared to how much space it takes
Nice to see an adult height person testing a chair lol its usually Colton or Linus.
So wondering what the weight rating of the chair is? It's kind of important to know that. If you are exceeding that limit and the chair is bending or breaking It's not the chairs fault. As a heavy dude myself weight rating is one of the first things I look for when buying a chair because it can be both the coolest and cheapest chair in the world but it's not rated to hold my weight there's no point for me to buy it because I can't use it.
Would a normal size person still be able to bend the frame?
2:02 thank you editor for adding that in
Pro tip: you can buy a transducer and bolt it on any chair.
I like that Jake was honest and critical of the product when often short circuits come off as advertisements of products with no real in-depth usage. I know this is primarily an unboxing channel, but there are valid opinions on products other than “this is amazing”. Honestly I’d love to see a Channel with primarily negative or critical remarks by products
Need more Jake reviews, he's easily one of the best members of the LTT group :D
Sweet! But Nothing beats the Kratos 4D Throne by Colinse though, they actually make 4DS Modules and the transducers. That they use in their thrones.
The smell comes from the off gassing of the plastic. The same thing that causes the "new car smell".
Except new car smell is nice and this was not. They literally explained what the smell was coming from in the video
Jake said that twice in the video
7:33 that face clearly has some meme potential
When did they build that case used in this video? Can someone link me to the video? The front panel looks beautiful!
Video coming soon!
I haven't kept up with LTT but this guy is good. I enjoy watching his videos. Keep it up.
Jake and the editing are GOLDEN please more of this
Linus channeled so much chaos into Jake that Jake became young Linus
Wouldn't be the first thing I've sat on that vibrates. This one seems way less fun though.
I'm talking about subwoofers obviously
I love the "SMEL(llllllllllll)" and "OH(hhhh)" reverb
I see a chair review and Colton is not there and I think "was Colton fired again?"
I've had plenty a chairs from office depot to say that most chair manufacturers cheap out on that metal column on the back, and me being a heavy guy, gave 'em hell in no time. I had to return at least 5 chairs for the same problem. Until I finally went for an expensive "ergonomic" office chair from a specialty store which it still works after 6 years, then gaming chairs popped up and 90% use the same metal column so I stayed away from them lol
I have had a chair snapped in half right there..
Please have Jake review more chairs. It's really useful having larger people review chairs since it's surprisingly hard to find. Also, how have the Secret Lab chairs held up around the office?
Wow they really should have held off sending them one of these until it’s more fleshed out and polished, because I’m assuming there’s no way they’re gonna be able to sell these for less than $600, and even for half that of that price the thing seems like total crap.
MSRP is $1300 USD
Yes it does sound like the build quality isn’t up to snuff with the preproduction but are we going to glass over the elephant in the room? Like other chair companies there are sizing and I think Jake it a bit to big for that chair 😅
I'm quite happy with my Secret Lab 2020 Titan. The packaging was a great presentation in itself. The chair from top to bottom is excellent quality. I've conditioned the material a few times and followed all of the recommendations secret lab suggests and it still looks and feels brand new. Only mentioning it because it's the bar I set for me when I see chairs like this in videos.
So true... I have an 2020 Omega and only conditioned it once and it still looks like brand new... They are a step above others
I've been seriously considering buying a secret labs chair... Mostly because there's one with a fox on it
@@Zeldur u wont regret it. But now their price is over the top... Pre corona time it was decent, but now I wouldn't bought it.
@@Aleskoo100 I have a 2020 version - they're still just over $400. There hasn't been that much of an increase at least for those and you can still purchase them
Same here, I got mine after using a cheap one for 6 months.
The difference was night and day, those guys know quality.
you need to start eating chicken and broccoli and go for a run my dude
One company has tried this exact thing before nice to know it came assembled
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I need a new AE tutorial please.
@@cthallborgtheineffable5583 gimmie ideas/topics
Chairs that have a reclining function often are only supported from the middle and have no side supports. Often they can be set to recline if you lean back or tightened down to hold position. The question is are you bending it or is the adjustment tight enough to hold it in place but not so tight to prevent changing the angle when any force is applied. My chair has two recline functions, one you can lock it in place at any angle and another that adjust how much it will recline. If I don't tighten the lock down fully it will slowly recline if I lean back on it and it will stay reclined when I lean forward just like that chair did. I have the lock fully opened and max recline when I am using mose and keyboard I don't use the chair back and if I am watching something I like to recline.
10:50
but does it actually bend ? Maybe the way you adjust the back is by "bending" it this way?
as long as the connection bracket doesnt move/ bend itself it might actually be intended, especially with the 135 degree range
Meh. Any friction mechanism like that would weaken over time anyway. And like what… you lean over too far and you gotta get up to fix your chair? Nah that’s poor ass design. Pun intended.
@@GuardedDragon yeah im not saying its a wise design choice but the way jake is wording it makes it sound, atleast to me, like it is broken which is probably not the case
Looks very fragile in general
The problem is the tilting system is locked (like 10:13 )
If he open it, the back-part will reset.
But the iron part was broken when 10:17
By Taiwanese chair manufacturer
@@user-hi3qx3sc8i Probably designed for a 130lb Taiwanese dude, not a 300lb North American.
He definitely broke something leaning back on it like that.
I don't normally 👍 videos, but ya got mine for this one. Jake is pure Chaos mixed with Honesty is the best combination for a review. Side-note: as a gamer the arm rests REALLY need to be comfy and not hard-anything otherwise my arms get shredded over time. :)
Seeing some brainlet comments here, so I just wanna say: If Jake is apparently so overweight that people think it’s his fault the chair’s bending, he must have Herculean arm strength to be able to bend it by hand.
He bent the back. It's called gravity.
jake really do be sounding like kermit
It would make a lot more sense if they were to use a battery bank to power it instead of a wall plug. That way you don't risk running over the cord and ripping it out of the chair or the wall. Maybe give you a pair of them so you can charge one without needing it plugged into the wall. Or if they were to partner with a power tool company like Milwaukee or Ryobi for powering it.
It does have an internal battery, they just didn't charge it after opening the box and before turning it on for the review so it only lasted a dozen minutes before they had to plug it in while testing. Jake even asked aloud "I wonder how much charge it has from the factory" before he looked for a charge level indicator.
8:30 I love how you can hear what he is listening through his headphones.
Jake, as a fellow chonky guy who's recently bought a new chair and had to pay attention to the spec sheet... are you sure you're not just too much man for the chair?
pure ignorance
Says its rated for 300lbs. I have a hard time believing Jake is over 300
Jake needs to hit the gym and get running, but there's no way he's 300lbs heavy.
You missed the part where he bent it by hand.
You can not do this with normal chairs...
Looks so cool and I was actually looking for a new chair but I'm a bit of a slouch and a heavy boi so the backrest bending is a no-go. Guess I'm back to waiting for SL nappa to get back in stock
The chair smells bad because of the quality of foam... this is why cheap mattresses also smell awful.
That's not actually true, the foam comes out nearly stink-free out of the chemical process. It's when the foam or the furniture is stored somewhere where they have these horrible mothballs against giant insects, that's where the smell comes from.
There's no way there isn't any long term health risks to inhaling plastic fumes from those extremely smelly plastics.
@@SianaGearz I would agree with you if that’s what they said it smelled like, but they specifically said ‘paint’ which is chemicals used to make cheap foam sadly. The rest of the review for sure also screams “as cheap as possible”
@@gqqggq7127 there are plenty of issues and risks. Don’t cheap out on stuff like this if you can. A cheap netted chair better then killing your lungs over this.
Jake you need the next size up man.
This thing doesn't appear to have been made with us big guys in mind.
Probs not. Maybe think about your life-choices. Nobody gonna do it for you
@@bfg_travels wow such an elaborate comment. Your mommy is probably really proud of you.
@@bfg_travels I'm perfectly happy with my appearance. Big doesn't mean unattractive.
@@ClellBiggs fat does mean unhealthy
@@sanches2 she's dead but would probably have the same view, but thank you
i love seeing all these features and all that and then remember "oh wait ive been using a wooden chair for the like like 16 years of my life"
the fact coolermaster thought this was an acceptable state to send this should be a red flag for anyone interested in it.
Wait this is from coolermaster? Holy crap I didn't pay attention and figured it was some chinesium brand.
Jake reclined in that chair looks like the chair is STRUGGLING...
Gotta say, this chair is... Well, it's a chair. Not really interested in poor build quality, janky operation, and odd gimmicks.
I'll stick with my Aeron. lmao Speaking of which, you fellas have rated other HM products, maybe the Aeron in the future? Could be neat to see a mesh seat get some attention!
Look into Subpac items. I’ve got the S2 and dude it’s the most amazing experience I’ve had at home. Haven’t used any other products like this so there may be better once, but I do not regret the purchase for a second.
Maybe this chair needed a slightly smaller reviewer 😂😂😂
You missed the part where he bent it by hand.
You can not do this with normal chairs...
at 3:08 - Some chairs lock the wheels when you sit on them. Idk if this is by design or a flaw but I've seen this on several chairs, mainly cheaper ones. But it's worth it to keep in mind
Id be surprised if the chair was actually made to handle Jakes weight, most of these chairs are rated for 225-240 lbs, Jake seems to be above that.
He isn't THAT heavy. If he can bend it by laying down once, then it'll bend under a 100lbs within a few days. It's not acceptable.
Translation for the rest of the world: Roughly 102 - 108 kg.
It’s build for 300 lbs or 136 kg according to the website.
yeah i was thinking the same - not a great idea to have someone overweight review a chair
@@brad7957 yea but if it's fine with him it will be rock solid for the rest of the normies :) so from an obese mechanical engineer - this chair is not well designed.
I love Bel's grandpa sweater, so cute haha
It was probably rated for 95lb asian girls.
genuinely great to see comment on the packing material. I know its not a huge deal regards the final quality of the product but it jsut irks me when waste like that is given a pass because we dont see it. Right, onto watch the rest of this chaos
Please review the x chair which costs over 1k and claims to be the best for ergonomics.
I've been getting ads for that during NFL games. What is their audience?
@@Collin_J same and i wanna know if they are the best or if it is complete BS because they cost over a grand. they say they are the best and i want an experts opinion that I trust
@@vampirefox7 The "best" is pretty subjective when it comes to chairs. When I was looking for a new chair, I sat in a lot of very highly reviewed chairs at a local office supply store. If I were to review any of those chairs based on the few minutes I got to sit in them, they'd all be getting 1 star reviews for comfort. Most "ergonomic" chairs leave me with extreme lower back pain and numbness in my legs.
@@aaronthomas6155 yeah but they claim their the best. I also know nothing of ergonomics and will never spend a grand on a chair. Still I would love to see them review this product that keeps popping up during football ads
@@vampirefox7 I love chair reviews. I'm always looking for a better chair. I just have an extreme hatred for "ergonomic" chairs due to the aforementioned issues. A chair with proper "ergonomics" shouldn't cause such issues.
The chair tipping back would likely be less of an issue for someone like linus. Jake's a heavier dude so his weight on the back of the chair will matter more.
Not fat shaming you Jake, I'm a bigger guy too. I'm merely speaking from experience LOL
I can see this chair being very popular with women.
Let Jake host more videos pleaseee
PLEASEEE
I'd be surprised if this dude was not over the recommended weight range of the chair. Edit: the max weight for the chair is 300lb, Jake is probably close to that.
Close but i don't think over. And the fact you can bend it with your hand as well.....
@@quackatit Very true, the review was still of high quality, and I rank Jake in the top 2 hosts on the channel, right up at the top with Anthony. So don’t take my comment as a slight dig at his weight.
he's deffo over 300, fella's been chubbin up over the past few years, not really a fair review if he's bending the metal parts
@@williammounty1 bruh you shouldn’t be able to bend a chair backrest, esp with flabby arms
@@williammounty1 but again if he was like 270 I'd bet it would still bend when you lay back.
Jake and the editor made a great combo for this
The gamer girls will love this. But I'd rather just get myself a good office chair and a buttkicker for decent haptic feedback.
that sniff-to-wooo killed me
They haven't rehire Colton after his 150$ prank?
Editing here was hilarious.
Nice gimmick, but thats all it is really. A gimmick.
Might want to put the heating on Jake. Those things could cut glass
Guys it says the weight limit is 300 lbs. Unfair test.
Still i don't think you should be able to bend it with your hand.
bruh what
Nonsense. It’s going to fatigue over time if you can bend it that easily with your arms
@@GuardedDragon For sure, and I have a chinese branded Yaheetech chair at work that cost all of $89 USD that has better build quality that this thing.
You missed the part where he bent it by hand.
You can not do this with normal chairs...
Jakes voice impression of the chair AI had me laughing❤😂.
Girls would like this so much, it truly improves their gaming experiences.