Yes, "Father Time" is a real piece of music. He is just saying, how do you rank that song amongst other "real songs" ? Such as Tupac "so many tears", where he raps about selling his soul. Is "Father Time" a better song than "So Many Tears"? Well it's all up to the persons interpretation. Music is subjective at the end of the day and top 5s are extremely personal and are the individuals choice entirely. Even though I like Kendrick and Tupac talent wise, they're just another nigga talking shit.
everyone from every state or city west coast, east cost, mid west, down south. wherever you from don't matter you like who you like. aint nothing wrong with that. we all got different taste cut from different cloths. just cause you don't like what I like don't mean what's you like is better, it's just your cup of tea. so it really don't matter we like what we like.
It's entertainment. Sometimes there is a message. Sometimes the lyrics resonate. Sometimes the music simply moves you. Comparing and rating artist is natural.
This is the most mature comment about it. It’s sad when a grown up behaves like an ignorant child but this proof that just because you’re old, doesn’t mean you’re wise.
I mean ....at some point he ain't wrong tho hey listen he's a bitter that's for sure but that's list are just so crazy Kendrick literally came around 2010 and already second ?front of nas ?lol !like come on ! Ok jay-z ok even if I don't like the rapper his rhymes from biggie and big L mouth but ok he's a legit he's there long time but Kendrick lol , Nikki in top 10 ? If you wanna put female out there then Lauryn hill but Nikki like come on , on that one I'm afraid I gotta agree with him
@@andmillions quality is depend for whom and also if he was white he would definitely getting hate ...Kendrick he's Eminem in black version the only things change that's he's no Eminem is the fact he's black and he doesn't talk about killing his mom but speed raping rhyming dictionary....I think he's overrated definitely overrated I can literally name 10 rapper better than him in any way lyrically, artistically musically worldwide, dedication ...literally and I'm being nice I said 10 !! When I saw Nikki in top 10 I was like ok Kendrick in top 3 it make the whole sense 😅 I don't know how make this rank but is cringe asf !!
I think mel is just talking shit he is mad because people arent talking about him, but maybe they would if he had a bit of a different attitude about it
@@weshouser821 i thought about that. Fame is a bad thing. We love Mel. I made my kids watch Beat Street recently just do they have perspective on how far the craft has come. Maybe he's upset because he's not getting the flowers he deserves?...idk.
@@darkvanilla7320 I think that's what it is he is otherwise he wouldnt be so mad about it the sounds I hear coming out of his mouth is the same as the sounds of jealousy coming from anyone else.
@@YungPhilosopher Honestly the whole Stillmatic has the effect Illmatic must have had on my older cousins, because that whole album is a masterpiece, I haven’t heard better since 🍶
He’s saying they are just talking ish because their actions do not match up with what they say. We take their words more seriously than they do bc we try and live by them when most rappers are not living what they talking
Sure, but him acting like that doesn't make them great rappers is ridiculous. The topic at hand isn't really what make an MC and MC.. it's their talent. And all the guys he listed are more talented than most rappers, regardless of what they're talking about. That's like calling Tarantino a bad director because he makes very violent films.. lol it's nonsense.
@@Arctic37yeah idk his statement was all over the place. Yeah I get what he was trying to say but it’s like saying mj wasn’t a great basketball player cuz he smoked cigars n gambled.
@@fts1981he’s a legend & a pioneer but he’s bitter because these guys have surpassed him…. Jay-Z & Nas have way more longevity than he does…& he hates on Kendrick because he gets nothing but praise….dude is bitter because those guys have more successful careers than him…he backed out of a battle with Eminem…he bragged about able to wash Em easily in a battle then he backs out…LL Cool J , Rakim etc have all embraced Em for how much of a student of the game he is….while this guy can’t even put his money where his mouth is when it comes down to it…he’s a washed up rapper who’s bitter because hip hop evolved since the 70’s-80’s so he doesn’t get praised as much as he used to…..you don’t see Rakim , Slick Rick , Kool G Rap , KRS One etc being bitter about not getting the recognition they deserve
@@saberfangwolf7that’s where it gets tough tho because, Compton, for example, where Kendrick grew up, what are they going to do with the money? Give donations to the police so more of their youth can be locked up or killed? Give money to the families that will largely be spent on drugs instead of necessities? Give money to the schools so they can have nice new buildings and text books that the kids will continue to neglect and not take seriously? The thing about change is that people have to want it and en mass the people in Compton won’t be able to want it badly enough to overcome their habits and addictions
Bro said nas and Kendrick just be talking ish. Is wild asf to me. You can tell Mel not happy in life. I've never heard him say anything good or uplifting.
@@SoulOfTheSouth Tupac start to talk street sh*t after he got shot 5 times before that all tupac songs was a revolutionary when Rappers was acting gangsta back in the day tupac was making songs about black woman and young black man struggles that's why melle respected him, I think melle sometimes he hating but if You think he is a hypocrite because he diss your favourite rapper you are absolutely wrong
@emoneydatruth1 what did Mel do but talk down on all these young cats that respected him. Let's see Jay multi Grammy award winner and Billionaire businessman. Kendrick first hip hop artist to win multi Grammys and a Pulzter. So why would you hate on younger artist that took an art form he helped to create and transcend it to the point it has become a global phenomenon. He had his time years and years ago and all he does is talk shit . That's the sign of a man who refuses to believe his time in hip hop is up. You don't hear any other pioneers of hip hop talking as much shit as him. So for him to believe he deserves to be in the top 5 is crazy.
@@ericgreen6466 So you base greatness in hiphop off of awards given to you by hollywood? stop it and stop the cap. Mel brings life and the top 5 destroy life. Them fools aint even better than Rakim let alone Mel. Mel is spitting facts about these nonsensical degenerate rappers who now sold every black person down the river to make a buck. Mel showed them and is still here, Respect Mel and give that man his flowers.
@@emoneydatruth1Jayz represented New York in his prime and inspired half the rappers nowadays Kendrick has multiple different flows and supports his hometown and people Nas been alive since 2pac was alive and was representing his hood and helping his people and Eminem grew up in a broken down city and in a trailer park he been struggling just like everyone on the list and Infinite to Eminem Show was absolutely 🔥 Stan alone has been hella inspirational
@@theobgshowyou want to know what they do for their communities , you can find out with a simple google search … like an educated person does … 🤦🏾♂️ Instead of being a hater , by agreeing to things that has no basis in reality … They are not going to come and take people out of the hood , they can only tell them how they managed to get out … Smh. The rest is on you to do , LIKE THEY DID .
Dude is is the foundation of hip hop. Overall this mindset is negative. I prefer a cat like LL who praises and builds up other artists that came after him and is still contributing till this is day.
Same with Busta. Always collabs with the old and new artists and genuinely loves Hip-hop. Melle Mell is just a gatekeeper, who clearly doesn't keep up with the culture, judging by his statements here and his dated style when dissing Eminem.
@@olgierdolo5510- Not so!! The beauty of LL is that he admits his mistakes and reconciled with Canibus a long time ago. He said it was youthful immaturity. A man who can still humble himself despite his superior stardom is one to be admired. ruclips.net/video/iYaz88cWv-Y/видео.html&pp=ygUVTEwgYnJpbmdzIG91dCBjYW5pYnVz
I will admit that it didn’t start out as their job but once the attained success they had the ability to change the narrative. Public Enemy had brothers waking up with their music.
Method Man bought this up on Math Hoffa show. Pointing out how many of the MCs he's talked down on (him included) love him. But his comments makes it hard for them to honor him
People are just now noticing that this man is a massive hater. I know his daughter (FAT A$$!!!, anyway), this man has been this way forever. He doesn’t like HipHop. Imo, if you only fw your era and you not only dismiss but hate everything else, you’ve been tapped out the culture long ago. He also doesn’t like RUN DMC because they introduced urban streetwear into HipHop. He thinks how MCs were dressing in the disco era (tight leather pants, jackets, etc) is how rappers showed present themselves. I’ve gotten into a lot of arguments with him. And quite frankly, I don’t like the guy all that much. I respect his legend status. But that’s where it ends for me
So we should not be able to make top 5 lists of artists? Being obsessed with an artists is definitely taking it to far, but most people that have a top 5 aren't obsessed. And downgrading deeply personal music to someone just talking shit, is very hypocritical since it's definitely discrediting all of his own work way more too. If these way more talented emcees are just talking shit, this dude is stuttering, trying to say basic sentences.
He is mad what rap success looks like these days. He is bitter he didn't get the same thing. As a pioneer he did get a bad shake in life. However! Mel really needs to stop he is just hurting what little legacy he had left. Mans is hating on everyone that did 10 times better than him, because they took what he created and improved upon it.
He’s telling the truth generally people do take rappers words more seriously than they do themselves-which is why people find themselves being disappointed when they find out their favorite rapper is a fraud.
He’s a hater, so that means he was also talking shit, and no one should take him seriously either. And he don’t know nothing about either one of those guys he named or how they came up, he hasn’t lived in their shoes, so how can he make an assumption
The reason we put some rappers on a different echelon is because we’ve taken time to get them , their life and their stories and what they do to help people in any way . And those few guys check out ! 🤦🏾♂️ Jay Z , has been employing black people since the early 2000’s (who in turn provide for black families), he has been donating , he has given other up and coming black people valuable advice so they could become great and help other black people … The same goes for Kendrick and Nas on different levels … These guys are not almighty they are not going to chance the hood , but they are telling you EVERYDAY for damn near 30 years for some of them … that there is a way to get out of the hood that is not criminal . Just because you cannot take some time without emotions to think about these questions like an adult doesn’t mean what you are saying has anything to do with reality … Jesus do old people (old enough to reason) can be so bold in saying things so far removed from sense … it’s just hate . We as human have always graded people in ANY FIELD .
I mean he has a point, but people will call it hating. All of these people pop that rich stuff but actually say nothing of substance. Stop idol worshiping.
But it's also not their responsibility. They can donate money, fund a school, park, whatever but until real money comes to change the infrastructure, nothing will change
@@noshortselectric5208 He’s a veteran not a legend. And that’s all he does is talk shit and just because he wrote “The Message” mad years ago don’t mean he can disrespect people. That’s why he apologized. Lol
Everybody’s scared of jay z not in a sense of a physical problem. They all crack the door open in hopes jay will work with them one day. It’s hilarious 😅
Niggas with a mic who gave back to their communities. Jay-Z has donated to multiple charities pertaining to multiple humanities including GLAAD, the Boys & Girls Clubs all over America, several schools across New York, and donated to find the cure for AIDS, which was far more significant back in the 80s to 00s. Nas has made multiple campaigns defending the importance of Hip Hop back when it was considered the bottom of the barrel for entertaining music, had a big hand in UNICEF, and even paid for several poor black families with cash to combat homelessness. Kendrick is the most well known. There are RUclips pages about the stuff he contributed; he improved Compton school systems, donated to keep music classes available in schools as lots of schools are trying to phase it out, and he's been cited to have donated to have donated to dozens of shelters across the US. It's not they've done nothing significant. It's just sh*t you don't care about
No he is not and I can back it up with examples Eminem has made several diss tracks that have destroyed careers one of them was MGK to the point where he is not doing hip hop anymore Childish gambino with this is america a teardown of american culture where you cannot separate the music video because it is an integral part of what is being said NWA with f**k the police That was not them talking shit but addressing how police are abusing power and has a bias towards black people and that bias is getting black people killed An abuse of power and bias that is still strong today And I have more examples but 3 different examples are enough to prove the point that it is not just shit talking
I will show you what I told someone else. All three have contributed to their neighborhoods more than most rappers out there. Jay-Z has donated to multiple charities pertaining to multiple humanities including GLAAD, the Boys & Girls Clubs all over America, several schools across New York, and donated to find the cure for AIDS, which was far more significant back in the 80s to 00s. Nas has made multiple campaigns defending the importance of Hip Hop back when it was considered the bottom of the barrel for entertaining music, had a big hand in UNICEF, and even paid for several poor black families with cash to combat homelessness. Kendrick is the most well known. There are RUclips pages about the stuff he contributed; he improved Compton school systems, donated to keep music classes available in schools as lots of schools are trying to phase it out, and he's been cited to have donated to have donated to dozens of shelters across the US. It's not they've done nothing significant. It's just sh*t you don't care about
they do what everyone with money does, they donate to some cause that looks good on paper but does nothing in reality. They are scared to make real change and I get it but let be real. I love kendrick & nas and like some of jay-z shit so am not a hater. @@yusifudo46
MEL has both the greatest song (the Message) and the greatest verse (Beat Street Breakdown) of ALL time. But, Mel is also the biggest hater of all time 😂
@@fatboitino2 Talk is cheap. If you get to a point when you good you supposed to do something for your hood. Only the young ones think he hating. Its only music!!
@@KingGrizzBadarawell lets be honest. The 3 rappers mentioned are guys who say they speak for us, but are millionaire's and billionaires while the communities they're from are still in shambles. Maybe he's hating, but theirs a spark of truth and it should be noted.
@saberfangwolf7 If this is a different conversation, then your point makes sense. However, great artists and great people are two different things. That would be like me criticizing Monet, O'Keefe or Picasso's personal lives and using that as a reason to trash their paintings. He could have answered the art side of it and still talked about the personal side. It comes off as disingenuous and bitter. Also, no one speaks for me but me.
I guess... But the conversation was literally about who is the greatest at rhyming to a beat. Lol If we want to say that emcee skills don't matter, then you can say that. But the conversation wasn't about if rapping IS great, it was about who's the greatest rapper lol He went on here tearing down the art form as if that had anything to do with the original list he was criticizing. Not to mention, he considers HIMSELF the greatest at the same thing he's demeaning. Lol
@@Braillionaire Too many people listen to these fictional tales and react to them. It’s stupid. It’s just a dude telling lies that rhyme. People put waaaaaawy too much value in this and refuse to separate entertainment from reality. Way too many adults that refuse to grow up. Regardless of where the conversation started from, this point is extremely valid. When you truly think about it, it has messed us up and placing so much value in entertainment is stupid.
As a grown man 33 who’s loved hip hop all my life including the artists he mentioned, I really feel what he’s saying. He’s not a hater for that. Funk Flex, Ebro, Aries Spears are haters, but this guy just keeping it real.
The final boss of all the haters.
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Lmao
And dressed for The Haters Ball 😂😂😂
Silky Johnson's lost older brother turned up at the haters ball unexpectedly.😂
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Kendrick: releases TPAB
Melle : “jus another n*** talkin shit”
You know😂
44 year old here, Kendrick is the best emcee to come out of the generation under me. Mel rhymes cat and hat and thinks he's the best
Why’d I read that last part in uncle ruckus’s voice 😂
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A roach must’ve crawled out of his book bag or something
Hahhaha, underrated comment right here!
I think 8 of them popped out
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Lmfao yoooo 😂😂😂
Why he mad why he look badd lol
How does kendrick talk shit? ‘Father Time’ is one of the realest pieces of music I’ve ever heard. Bro just mad he in nobody’s top 5
He talking allota shit on his latest album 😅
@@odhiamboomulo5937you're right, album was shit talk
Hes not even in the top 20
@@bigred9991 Kendrick or Mel?
Yes, "Father Time" is a real piece of music. He is just saying, how do you rank that song amongst other "real songs" ? Such as Tupac
"so many tears", where he raps about selling his soul. Is "Father Time" a better song than "So Many Tears"? Well it's all up to the persons interpretation. Music is subjective at the end of the day and top 5s are extremely personal and are the individuals choice entirely. Even though I like Kendrick and Tupac talent wise, they're just another nigga talking shit.
"Das jussa niqqa talkin' shxt"
Sincerely,
A niqqa talkin' shxt
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Yo you hit em wit that rrraah lmmfao!!
@@Deezy_Ankh 😂😂😂😂
Lmfao
Nbs like he contradicting himself too much
😂😂😂 your comment actually had a "translate to English"
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.
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Amen 🙏
Perfect comment
Very interesting statement its thought provoking
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#iykyk
It’s best to be considered a fool rather than open your mouth and actually prove it
I'm surprised the words can make it past those patches he's got on his upper lip. Smh
everyone from every state or city west coast, east cost, mid west, down south. wherever you from don't matter you like who you like. aint nothing wrong with that. we all got different taste cut from different cloths. just cause you don't like what I like don't mean what's you like is better, it's just your cup of tea. so it really don't matter we like what we like.
Indeed
Dumbest quote ever.
I genuinely hate this quote…. As a dude talkin shit.
the original mad rapper
😂FACTS 🤣
That’s my WORD!
Imma tell you why im mad son!!!
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Lmaoooo
@iamtheculturetv7380 Tell em why you mad son
It's entertainment. Sometimes there is a message. Sometimes the lyrics resonate. Sometimes the music simply moves you. Comparing and rating artist is natural.
Exactly
It’s funny because he literally was in a song called “The Message” which highlighted issues in black impoverished cities
Hip Hop essence is the message, thats what seperates the GREAT from just another performer.
@@kingslayer447yeah , Jay Nas and Kendrick have all given WAY TOO MUCH MESSAGES
@@gkay8889Imma need you to elaborate bro
Next time someone asks me: “Who’s Melly Mel?”
I’ll say: “Just some guy talking sh**”
Mel helped start hip hop and pissed off he couldn’t close the door behind him.
😂😂😂😂 I’m rolling 😂😂😂 close the door behind him 🤣🤣🤣
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😂😂😂All the crabs say shid let us in
Lol , yeah pretty much
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For a hip-hop pioneer to sound so bitter is a DAMN SHAME 🤷🏾♂️🤔
This is the most mature comment about it. It’s sad when a grown up behaves like an ignorant child but this proof that just because you’re old, doesn’t mean you’re wise.
I mean ....at some point he ain't wrong tho hey listen he's a bitter that's for sure but that's list are just so crazy Kendrick literally came around 2010 and already second ?front of nas ?lol !like come on ! Ok jay-z ok even if I don't like the rapper his rhymes from biggie and big L mouth but ok he's a legit he's there long time but Kendrick lol , Nikki in top 10 ? If you wanna put female out there then Lauryn hill but Nikki like come on , on that one I'm afraid I gotta agree with him
@@Zipper83I mean 2010 was 13 years ago. That's a good enough amount of time and Kendrick has put out nothing but quality music since then.
@@andmillions quality is depend for whom and also if he was white he would definitely getting hate ...Kendrick he's Eminem in black version the only things change that's he's no Eminem is the fact he's black and he doesn't talk about killing his mom but speed raping rhyming dictionary....I think he's overrated definitely overrated I can literally name 10 rapper better than him in any way lyrically, artistically musically worldwide, dedication ...literally and I'm being nice I said 10 !! When I saw Nikki in top 10 I was like ok Kendrick in top 3 it make the whole sense 😅 I don't know how make this rank but is cringe asf !!
Dont his words apply to himself?
This dude has clearly lost his effing mind. This a classic 101 in how to lose any and all love and respect the game has ever had for you. R.I.P. Mel
Yea, he's tripping madly with this ego talking nonsense
I think mel is just talking shit he is mad because people arent talking about him, but maybe they would if he had a bit of a different attitude about it
@@weshouser821 i thought about that. Fame is a bad thing. We love Mel. I made my kids watch Beat Street recently just do they have perspective on how far the craft has come. Maybe he's upset because he's not getting the flowers he deserves?...idk.
@@darkvanilla7320 I think that's what it is he is otherwise he wouldnt be so mad about it the sounds I hear coming out of his mouth is the same as the sounds of jealousy coming from anyone else.
Yea he going out sad. I'm wondering who does he think is better?
How to be a hater 101 - Guest lecturer: Melly Mel.
Gotta play Nas - 2nd Childhood, Kendrick - The Blacker The Berry, and Jay-Z - Where I’m From one after the other and watch my good OGs brain melt lmao
Nas What Goes Around is a great song great message in it he’s not just talking shit 😂😂 lol
@@YungPhilosopher Honestly the whole Stillmatic has the effect Illmatic must have had on my older cousins, because that whole album is a masterpiece, I haven’t heard better since 🍶
@@d.c9394thats dope. When dope music spans generations.
This guy was drunk af. Naz never just talks shit. He tells a storys
He’s saying they are just talking ish because their actions do not match up with what they say. We take their words more seriously than they do bc we try and live by them when most rappers are not living what they talking
@@kingwilliam1964 so I guess he is? His diss tack to eminem said it all. Only real rappers who about that life to me is jadakiss d-block
@@jerseyactor6053jadakiss my man's but he went to good private schools and came from a good family. He wasn't on the street, he even says that
@@jerseyactor6053 I agree with u on that + 50cent. Mel is saying that ish but he set the precedent. Its not like he was inspir
True
We lost his ass to roids
And went to his brain!!!
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Hem-roids....
All chicken and broccolli natural!
He's telling the truth about taking what somebody saying seriously and messing up your life while they making millions.
Thank you
Exactly, people worship these celebrities too much. Look how they worship the likes of Eminem & they cling to every word he spits
Sure, but him acting like that doesn't make them great rappers is ridiculous. The topic at hand isn't really what make an MC and MC.. it's their talent. And all the guys he listed are more talented than most rappers, regardless of what they're talking about. That's like calling Tarantino a bad director because he makes very violent films.. lol it's nonsense.
And it affects the black community more than any other racial group
@@Arctic37yeah idk his statement was all over the place. Yeah I get what he was trying to say but it’s like saying mj wasn’t a great basketball player cuz he smoked cigars n gambled.
He said Kendrick Lamar and Nas are just talking shit. 😂
At this point who cares who he is, he does more damage to Hip hip than anyone.
You wouldn't have lyrical miracles if not for Melle Mel. He rap from party disco to allowing dudes to talk their shit.
@@fts1981he’s a legend & a pioneer but he’s bitter because these guys have surpassed him…. Jay-Z & Nas have way more longevity than he does…& he hates on Kendrick because he gets nothing but praise….dude is bitter because those guys have more successful careers than him…he backed out of a battle with Eminem…he bragged about able to wash Em easily in a battle then he backs out…LL Cool J , Rakim etc have all embraced Em for how much of a student of the game he is….while this guy can’t even put his money where his mouth is when it comes down to it…he’s a washed up rapper who’s bitter because hip hop evolved since the 70’s-80’s so he doesn’t get praised as much as he used to…..you don’t see Rakim , Slick Rick , Kool G Rap , KRS One etc being bitter about not getting the recognition they deserve
He spitting facts tho. All their neighborhoods still in shambles.
True i think same goes for midgets they owe it to other midgets LOL.
What are they supposed to do?
@@Lord_Friedthats a great question. I know one thing for sure. The artists mentioned have billions to find a solution
@@saberfangwolf7that’s where it gets tough tho because, Compton, for example, where Kendrick grew up, what are they going to do with the money? Give donations to the police so more of their youth can be locked up or killed? Give money to the families that will largely be spent on drugs instead of necessities? Give money to the schools so they can have nice new buildings and text books that the kids will continue to neglect and not take seriously? The thing about change is that people have to want it and en mass the people in Compton won’t be able to want it badly enough to overcome their habits and addictions
so’s his, whats he done for it?
The community was in shambles when you was in your prime rapping too.
Nothing changed after The Message...so basically he's just another old 🥷 talking 💩. LEGENDARY HATER ALERT
Still is.
What is he talking about 🤦
Broken glass everywhere, people pissing on the stage you know they just don't care
They wasn’t making that kind of money in hip hop back then to change their neighborhood!! Rap today is TRASH 💯
He’ll say all of that and then come out with a verse that sounds like it’s from 1981. 😂
Bro said nas and Kendrick just be talking ish. Is wild asf to me. You can tell Mel not happy in life. I've never heard him say anything good or uplifting.
Melle Mel don’t like all of the 90s rappers. He even said it himself. The only one he respected was 2Pac because he knew him.
@@SoulOfTheSouthTbf he's not the only pioneer who don't respect the direction HH/Rap took in the 90s, listen to GM Caz for example
@@SoulOfTheSouthhe respected tupac because tupac was a revolutionary Rapper that why not because he knew him melle mel know everybody
@@brahimsadallah2328 But Pac also was talking street shit too. Melle is a hypocrite to me.
@@SoulOfTheSouth Tupac start to talk street sh*t after he got shot 5 times before that all tupac songs was a revolutionary when Rappers was acting gangsta back in the day tupac was making songs about black woman and young black man struggles that's why melle respected him, I think melle sometimes he hating but if You think he is a hypocrite because he diss your favourite rapper you are absolutely wrong
Ladies and Gentlemen, if you’ve NEVER seen a hater, this is the upper echelon of said group of ppl.
Man gives new meaning to jealous, and bitter.
This dude has lost his damn mind
Then tell me what these niggas in the Top 5 did or said that is so great in Hip-Hop?
@emoneydatruth1 what did Mel do but talk down on all these young cats that respected him. Let's see Jay multi Grammy award winner and Billionaire businessman. Kendrick first hip hop artist to win multi Grammys and a Pulzter. So why would you hate on younger artist that took an art form he helped to create and transcend it to the point it has become a global phenomenon. He had his time years and years ago and all he does is talk shit . That's the sign of a man who refuses to believe his time in hip hop is up. You don't hear any other pioneers of hip hop talking as much shit as him. So for him to believe he deserves to be in the top 5 is crazy.
@@ericgreen6466 So you base greatness in hiphop off of awards given to you by hollywood? stop it and stop the cap. Mel brings life and the top 5 destroy life. Them fools aint even better than Rakim let alone Mel. Mel is spitting facts about these nonsensical degenerate rappers who now sold every black person down the river to make a buck. Mel showed them and is still here, Respect Mel and give that man his flowers.
But he is spitting facts! Whether you like it or not
@@emoneydatruth1Jayz represented New York in his prime and inspired half the rappers nowadays Kendrick has multiple different flows and supports his hometown and people Nas been alive since 2pac was alive and was representing his hood and helping his people and Eminem grew up in a broken down city and in a trailer park he been struggling just like everyone on the list and Infinite to Eminem Show was absolutely 🔥 Stan alone has been hella inspirational
If hate was a person 😂
Yeah😂😂😂😂
I don't agree, but great comment. 😊
He's the most diabolical of all haters.
@@theobgshowyou want to know what they do for their communities , you can find out with a simple google search … like an educated person does … 🤦🏾♂️
Instead of being a hater , by agreeing to things that has no basis in reality …
They are not going to come and take people out of the hood , they can only tell them how they managed to get out … Smh. The rest is on you to do , LIKE THEY DID .
Dude is is the foundation of hip hop. Overall this mindset is negative. I prefer a cat like LL who praises and builds up other artists that came after him and is still contributing till this is day.
Same with Busta. Always collabs with the old and new artists and genuinely loves Hip-hop. Melle Mell is just a gatekeeper, who clearly doesn't keep up with the culture, judging by his statements here and his dated style when dissing Eminem.
@@MrMathoks In what way?
Well, it's also not 100% correct considering LL couldn't let young Canibus shine cause of his ego
LL Cool J is a Elite Iconic Legend. Melle Mel is too. But LL Cool J is a Bigger Giant.
@@olgierdolo5510- Not so!! The beauty of LL is that he admits his mistakes and reconciled with Canibus a long time ago. He said it was youthful immaturity. A man who can still humble himself despite his superior stardom is one to be admired. ruclips.net/video/iYaz88cWv-Y/видео.html&pp=ygUVTEwgYnJpbmdzIG91dCBjYW5pYnVz
Yall he is actually right about one thing. None of these guys change the area they grew up at.
They aren't expected to. It isn't their job to do so. Smh 🤦🏿♂️
Right lmao@@dfree1442
Once the community starts coming together and fixing it others will join why fix something if everybody is not on the same page it won’t be maintained
I will admit that it didn’t start out as their job but once the attained success they had the ability to change the narrative. Public Enemy had brothers waking up with their music.
And what tf did he do for his own hood??
No lies detected. Its just music. The hoods still in shambles
Melle Mel came from the past. He looks like pimp from 1979 and he doesn't like everyone who came after him. Except Busta Rhymes
Busta probably paying his bills
Stop it lol 😆 😂
Method Man bought this up on Math Hoffa show. Pointing out how many of the MCs he's talked down on (him included) love him. But his comments makes it hard for them to honor him
2pac
Melly Mel's reputation just got cancelled. He got no one to blame but the roach in his bookbag.
People are just now noticing that this man is a massive hater. I know his daughter (FAT A$$!!!, anyway), this man has been this way forever. He doesn’t like HipHop. Imo, if you only fw your era and you not only dismiss but hate everything else, you’ve been tapped out the culture long ago. He also doesn’t like RUN DMC because they introduced urban streetwear into HipHop. He thinks how MCs were dressing in the disco era (tight leather pants, jackets, etc) is how rappers showed present themselves. I’ve gotten into a lot of arguments with him. And quite frankly, I don’t like the guy all that much. I respect his legend status. But that’s where it ends for me
Hip Hop's Gargamel.
🤣🤣🤣Omg.
Garga-melle-mel
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@@officiallyteiihhahahahahaha
True just like many gangster rappers ain't gangster. Most conscious ain't conscious
Bro is right mfkas need to stop idolizing artist like they gods or something
So we should not be able to make top 5 lists of artists? Being obsessed with an artists is definitely taking it to far, but most people that have a top 5 aren't obsessed. And downgrading deeply personal music to someone just talking shit, is very hypocritical since it's definitely discrediting all of his own work way more too. If these way more talented emcees are just talking shit, this dude is stuttering, trying to say basic sentences.
We're all gods
They need to put a picture of Melle Mel next to the word "Bitter" in the dictionary.
He is mad what rap success looks like these days. He is bitter he didn't get the same thing. As a pioneer he did get a bad shake in life. However! Mel really needs to stop he is just hurting what little legacy he had left. Mans is hating on everyone that did 10 times better than him, because they took what he created and improved upon it.
Naw thtz lord jamar
he more.valid than all of them.put together. pioneer gossip down youngin
@@edoteditsthere is no way you like mels trash diss? If you can even call it that??
@@leroyewell905lord Jamal the final boss
Never trust A man with no moustache,thin moustache,or that can only grow hair in the corners of his mouth...Pony tail and never take his hat off😂😅
Hahahahaha
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This dude has definitely never heard a Nas, Kendrick, or Jay-Z song in his life lol
I agree brother
Nas being an exception, you chiming Jay-Z and Kendrick shows you're existentially weak.
I mean jay ain’t all that but nas and Kendrick he got wrong
Well since you heard all they records tell us-what groundbreaking thing have you heard any of these dudes say?
Y’all bored huh
Melle was my favorite rapper. The more he talks the further down the list he goes. Instead of being bitter he should embrace those that love him
This needs to be pinned📌 on every HipHop sub reddit, and every HipHop album
He’s telling the truth generally people do take rappers words more seriously than they do themselves-which is why people find themselves being disappointed when they find out their favorite rapper is a fraud.
yeah, it went over their heads
He’s a hater, so that means he was also talking shit, and no one should take him seriously either. And he don’t know nothing about either one of those guys he named or how they came up, he hasn’t lived in their shoes, so how can he make an assumption
The reason we put some rappers on a different echelon is because we’ve taken time to get them , their life and their stories and what they do to help people in any way . And those few guys check out !
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Jay Z , has been employing black people since the early 2000’s (who in turn provide for black families), he has been donating , he has given other up and coming black people valuable advice so they could become great and help other black people …
The same goes for Kendrick and Nas on different levels …
These guys are not almighty they are not going to chance the hood , but they are telling you EVERYDAY for damn near 30 years for some of them … that there is a way to get out of the hood that is not criminal .
Just because you cannot take some time without emotions to think about these questions like an adult doesn’t mean what you are saying has anything to do with reality …
Jesus do old people (old enough to reason) can be so bold in saying things so far removed from sense … it’s just hate .
We as human have always graded people in ANY FIELD .
Its not that he is wrong, its just he is talking about the wrong dudes
Tru
nas is #1 point blank... nobody can say otherwise to convince me
Nah. It's Lil Zan at #1. Afroman at #2. Then Diddy and Mase at #3 and #4.
@@megaman786you must want attention
Kendr is better than NAS??? lol
@@HorseMaster23u got that shit twisted. NAS all day. im from L.A. too. i jus understand that its nas, then kendrick, then jay. the real ones kno.
Lil Wayne 🤷🏾♂️
So this who Cam Newton dressing like😂😂😂😂
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At first glance that’s who I thought it was 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
@@14dirtydee on God🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I mean he has a point, but people will call it hating. All of these people pop that rich stuff but actually say nothing of substance. Stop idol worshiping.
Melly Mel was #1 at the Playa Haters Ball 20 years running!.. ☝️😂
Damn. Grandpa hates us
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Thats why Willie D knocked him out 😂
Get off my lawn!😡
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He made sense about them not doing shyt to change their neighborhoods tho.
What do you do? I'll answer it for you, NOTHING
But it's also not their responsibility. They can donate money, fund a school, park, whatever but until real money comes to change the infrastructure, nothing will change
Didn't know that was a rappers job😂
@@seansmith7462absolutely nothing 💯🤦🏽♂️
@seansmith7462 why would I do anything in your neighborhood. You can't even enter mine.
I think it's the money! It's gotta be the money! Jealousy is a mfkr
Money and attention
He's speaking facts, and Jay-Z calling himself a God is ridiculous.
"I am far from being God but I work God damn hard"...Jay Z
And Ye gets a pass?
@@yusifudo46he made graduation
@@pandora4me113 fair
@@pandora4me113the college dropout is better
Tell me you don’t listen to Kendrick without telling me you don’t listen to kendrick
Africa bambatta said that melle mel got mad when planet rock was kicking ass they was glad for the message
Somebody go get your granddaddy. He lit off that moonshine again. 😂😂
“He’s just a guy talking shit” - Guy just talking shit
He ain't lying
He actually has a point .. dudes be d riding hip hop artists ..at the end of the day it’s just art.
dang he's giving us ways to ignore him
When you mad you can’t do it😂 giving every bit of bitter babymama energy
You have a big baby energy
This is why he had that Eminem diss coming
Nah that’s real tho. People take these rappers words as law.
Damn, Mel said he never liked what nobody was doing in hip hop. Never?😂😂😂😂😂
“And Lebron don’t got as many rings as Bill Russell” 😂😂😂
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“I jack, I rob, I sin, aw man I’m Jackie Robinson” that’s what Jay Z said Mel lol that’s why he’s top 5 off that alone
And he doesn’t do most of those things which makes him a fraud.
Cept when I run base, I dodge the Pen - that's the actual bar
📌This guy is literally destroying his own legacy, and someone in his Camp needs to tell him to shut up.
Whatever credibility he had is gone.
@@viperrecords3288not really. Listen to the message
@@noshortselectric5208 What makes you think I haven’t. He apologized for embarrassing himself. Maybe he isn’t lost lol.
@viperrecords3288 he's a legend, he can talk shit if he wants
@@noshortselectric5208 He’s a veteran not a legend. And that’s all he does is talk shit and just because he wrote “The Message” mad years ago don’t mean he can disrespect people. That’s why he apologized. Lol
Damn he called you fangirls out for what you are
He actually makes sense it’s more important what you are doing for the community not all that you are saying
Haters come in all ages
You don't have to like the messenger just receive the message & He's telling the truth 💯
Nonsense 🤣
So how do you or Melle Mel know that these rappers ain’t helping their community?🤔
@@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 So how do you know that they are ?
He may be bitter, but he's not wrong. Lol
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His message would've hit harder if he said it in his prime
He’s wrong.
You know what, as a rapper myself, you’re right. We just make the “shit” sound good
Dude got a point. Truth hurts as u can see from the comments
"Ok grandpa, go to sleep."
Mel is trippin.
Everybody’s scared of jay z not in a sense of a physical problem. They all crack the door open in hopes jay will work with them one day. It’s hilarious 😅
Real shit though everybody saying the same shit different ways it’s nothing new!
If he was in top5 then he would believe in that ish
Dude has a point. These people just say words over a mic. They are not to be idolized. They are not leaders. They are not to be taken seriously.
Niggas with a mic who gave back to their communities.
Jay-Z has donated to multiple charities pertaining to multiple humanities including GLAAD, the Boys & Girls Clubs all over America, several schools across New York, and donated to find the cure for AIDS, which was far more significant back in the 80s to 00s.
Nas has made multiple campaigns defending the importance of Hip Hop back when it was considered the bottom of the barrel for entertaining music, had a big hand in UNICEF,
and even paid for several poor black families with cash to combat homelessness.
Kendrick is the most well known. There are RUclips pages about the stuff he contributed; he improved Compton school systems, donated to keep music classes available in schools as lots of schools are trying to phase it out, and he's been cited to have donated to have donated to dozens of shelters across the US.
It's not they've done nothing significant. It's just sh*t you don't care about
Melle Mel expects everybody to go against rappers like Jay-Z, Nas & Kendrick Lamar.
“Your going to bed with no supper” i felt that one *pause*
I went to bed with no supper before
Despite that embarrassing apology and that mediocre ass half a diss record he is still 100% correct on this
No he is not even in the slightest
No he is not and I can back it up with examples
Eminem has made several diss tracks that have destroyed careers one of them was MGK to the point where he is not doing hip hop anymore
Childish gambino with this is america
a teardown of american culture where you cannot separate the music video because it is an integral part of what is being said
NWA with f**k the police
That was not them talking shit but addressing how police are abusing power and has a bias towards black people and that bias is getting black people killed
An abuse of power and bias that is still strong today
And I have more examples but 3 different examples are enough to prove the point that it is not just shit talking
I will show you what I told someone else. All three have contributed to their neighborhoods more than most rappers out there.
Jay-Z has donated to multiple charities pertaining to multiple humanities including GLAAD, the Boys & Girls Clubs all over America, several schools across New York, and donated to find the cure for AIDS, which was far more significant back in the 80s to 00s.
Nas has made multiple campaigns defending the importance of Hip Hop back when it was considered the bottom of the barrel for entertaining music, had a big hand in UNICEF,
and even paid for several poor black families with cash to combat homelessness.
Kendrick is the most well known. There are RUclips pages about the stuff he contributed; he improved Compton school systems, donated to keep music classes available in schools as lots of schools are trying to phase it out, and he's been cited to have donated to have donated to dozens of shelters across the US.
It's not they've done nothing significant. It's just sh*t you don't care about
they do what everyone with money does, they donate to some cause that looks good on paper but does nothing in reality. They are scared to make real change and I get it but let be real. I love kendrick & nas and like some of jay-z shit so am not a hater.
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OP where the hell you at, where's your reply
Truth! The world isn’t ready. Talk that talk!
MEL has both the greatest song (the Message) and the greatest verse (Beat Street Breakdown) of ALL time.
But, Mel is also the biggest hater of all time 😂
I highly doubt Nas is talking shyt. He raps truth !
He's still not doing anything, so, all of that truth amounts to just talking ish.
Though, he really is trying to teach us how to save ourselves
@@fatboitino2 you just contradicting yourself. 🤔💯🤣
@@miguelvillareal8300 Yeah, I had to think about what Nas was really aiming to do; and adjust mid comment 😂🤣😂
@@fatboitino2 Talk is cheap. If you get to a point when you good you supposed to do something for your hood. Only the young ones think he hating. Its only music!!
@@DocOnassis they don't understand-
Truth. Like it or not. They're just talking shit.
"Ya guys "Sing About Me, I'm Dying Of Thirst" was just Kendrick talking shit"
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You clearly never listened to "To Pimp A Butterfly" and "Illmatic" too
@@ThatGuyWithTheShorts no album has changed or made your life better. Your just a fan taking what grown men say seriously.
@@Mf_CHIPYes
@@nofg3159With that mindset it is impossible for any artist to be more than just someone talking shit.
He speaks some real shit... major statement,what have they done for the hood. Well spoken.
What does that have to do with being a great artist? The topic wasn't greatest philanthropists. 😑
@@KingGrizzBadarawell lets be honest. The 3 rappers mentioned are guys who say they speak for us, but are millionaire's and billionaires while the communities they're from are still in shambles. Maybe he's hating, but theirs a spark of truth and it should be noted.
He is not taking about the rappers, he is talking about the listeners.
@saberfangwolf7 If this is a different conversation, then your point makes sense. However, great artists and great people are two different things. That would be like me criticizing Monet, O'Keefe or Picasso's personal lives and using that as a reason to trash their paintings. He could have answered the art side of it and still talked about the personal side. It comes off as disingenuous and bitter. Also, no one speaks for me but me.
we the only culture that ask what a artist done for us lately,,the only ones that expect entertainers to lead and teach as if malcom x didnt warn us,,
Say what you want about Melle Mel. Right here he told the truth. It’s crazy how we put dudes on ridiculous pedestals for rhyming to a beat.
I guess... But the conversation was literally about who is the greatest at rhyming to a beat. Lol If we want to say that emcee skills don't matter, then you can say that. But the conversation wasn't about if rapping IS great, it was about who's the greatest rapper lol
He went on here tearing down the art form as if that had anything to do with the original list he was criticizing. Not to mention, he considers HIMSELF the greatest at the same thing he's demeaning. Lol
@@Braillionaire Too many people listen to these fictional tales and react to them. It’s stupid. It’s just a dude telling lies that rhyme. People put waaaaaawy too much value in this and refuse to separate entertainment from reality. Way too many adults that refuse to grow up. Regardless of where the conversation started from, this point is extremely valid. When you truly think about it, it has messed us up and placing so much value in entertainment is stupid.
@@KeepIt1HuniTT Ok. That's one way to see the culture and the craft.
Why is he hating so hard on GREAT MCs SMH Hip Hop is Story Telling On A Beat And The Names He Named Are Great At It
Melle Mel is actually very wise in what he’s saying.
No he is not , as Jay Z said "you mfkas listen to music or just skim through it?"
As a grown man 33 who’s loved hip hop all my life including the artists he mentioned, I really feel what he’s saying. He’s not a hater for that. Funk Flex, Ebro, Aries Spears are haters, but this guy just keeping it real.
Mel turning out to be the epitome of a hater
Like nas said in either there’s no best! Opinions are opinions in this case and facts are facts!
He made alot of sense.
Everything that he said can be applied to him as well.
He’s telling the truth
This man is way deeper than most can reach
Ain't no way he said this about Nas
Actually spitting facts these guy’s neighborhoods are in chambels
Yea facts on that one he saying it wayyyy out of context but, all that other shit he saying was bullshit
I see where Cam newton got his drip from. I found your pops bro!!
Bro is the CEO of Hater Corporation
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No caption! He spoke facts
That’s why I don’t even rap in some of my songs anymore, because what can I say that hasn’t been said before
I don’t understand his mustache choice.