Steve Kay had to listen to the tape multiple times. He had to play it in the Bittaker trial. He had to play the tape for Lynette's mother because she had to identify the screams and voice of her daughter. He also had to show her the crime scene and autopsy photos of her lacerated and battered body to confirm it was her daughter. This man has seen and been through so many traumatizing cases. Give him a damn break y'all.
@@ttx3for Steve, it wasn't about the money. It was about having sympathy for the girls and putting California's most sadistic serial killers behind bars. The Ledford Tape is not released to the public because of how awful it is. And having to listen to it multiple times takes a toll on the human psyche. The lead detective Paul Bynum took his own life because of the brutality of this case and also because of the contents of the tape. It's just awful.
4 min 20 sec into this video, just listening to the prosecutor describe how he remembers the details of the case, brings me to tears because I've read through this case thoroughly and I've even read the transcript of what was on the audio tapes that those despicable men recorded. To date.... This is absolutely among the top most horrific cases I've ever come across my entire 45 years!
Steven Kay is a brilliant guy , he was in tears himself during the trial esp listening to those recordings. The guy should be HONERED for his services, he covered the Manson murders (.as they were called) He also attended all the parole hearings their AFTER. 🙏♥️☮️
As a counter to the evil that these two men committed it's comforting to hear the people who worked on this case who were Humane and were deeply affected by this case. These two men clearly have lost their Humanity.
The audio of her screams is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. those are the screams of someone experiencing the most horrific pain you could imagine and behind the screams are a couple monsters who think it’s the best sound in the world. So haunting and also unbelievable that we are all the same mammal.
@@KussDamato You can actually hear just 2-3 seconds of it in a documentary called ''The Killing of America''. There's a clip where a crying woman runs out off the courtroom while the tape was being played and as she opens the door you can hear the screams. It lasts only 2 seconds or so but its still quite horrific
The Toolbox Killers' case is a chilling reminder of the depths of human depravity. Their recorded crimes left a lasting impact on everyone who heard them, showcasing the urgent need for advancements in forensic science and criminal psychology to prevent such horrors. This case underscores the importance of vigilance and justice in our society.
There are many, many serial killer crimes that's absolutely horrid (including the monsters who commit them), and Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris are somewhere at the very top. I had sleepless nights after watching one of the documentaries about their crimes!! 😢
@@paleo704Sometimes Sometimes it's just a broken individual that literally does not experience feelings like the majority of us. That isn't society but a fundamental problem with our biology and emotions
The clean denominator here is that these criminals were tried previously and basically got let loose into public again as a failure of the court system
The levels of depravity that a human being can actually sink to seemingly becomes ever more despicable. It's beyond description and words to describe what is possible.
@@fionagregory9147ROFL. I am not sure about whapping those who are venting with the law. IF they are making what could be real credible threats other than a vote? Sure.
To hear Ledfords screams was a torment to my soul. Anyone can find them by searching for her tapes being played in her trial. I pray that God gives her a special place in heaven.
I reckon if crimes that involve physically hurting or torturing people, if the perpetrators were given that treatment in return, the crime rate would drop dramatically
You cannot cure a psychopath. When they are paroled they pick up where they left off. The justice system never recognised this. Imagine how many psychopaths are now roaming around the US, have come in as unvetted illegals.
Sindy was so beauiful she must of been in alot of pain and very scared and the other girls wicked wicked men who are cold blooded they have no feeling there like a machine and should never have been born how can nature DNA be so cruel
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented then I worry that I might go from a man to a monster like what this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get so fed up with it or I'll snapped by becoming a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 HELP, if my desires continues to get prevented in the future then I might get very angry and lose control that I become a monster that this video is talking about.
Several years ago I read a statement by one of the investigators ( I forget his name) who had a lot of contact with Bittaker..his impression of the murderer was that he was the most loathsome, and depraved personality he had ever encountered..utterly repugnant and disgusting in his behavior.
Theirs only a portion of the tape u can hear online when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore...the camera catches a small part of it while the doors are open
This case breaks my heart in so many different directions,. My grandmother was a Norris before she married. They were rough country people, but none that I EVER met would EVER lead me to think any of them would do such terrible things. Yes I understand he ( Norris) is his own person but you just can't help but feel the disappointment of the realization
I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might plan to become a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@imjustanameless That's what other people replied to me but the problem is, if I get therapy and they tell me no therapy is available right now and they tell me to wait and if I have to wait for many years to come then I worry that it might be too late by then because I might have become a monster by then.
I need help because if what I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might become a monster like what this video is talking about.
@@bigjumbo9479 I need help because if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might get very angry that I start following those monsters that this video is talking about.
@@bigjumbo9479 HELP, the more my desires gets prevented, the more angrier I get, the closer I plan to follow those monsters that this video is talking about.
This lawyer ... if he's still alive.... THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON IVE SEEN OF THIS CASE THAT HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN THEIR FACE AND GAVE THESE GIRLS A VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
The most monsterous thing about this is the Monsters who let these Monsters go free from jail or criminaly insane hospitals, these monsterous people are never held responsible for their actions, they will be eventually.
WARNING, if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get too angry that I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
Anthony Hardy spent 12 months in a Queensland Psych hospital in the 1980's but was released. Nice to know our mental health system hasnt really improved in the years since!
The brutal and unusual nature of these murderers not only reflects the brutality of the case but also affirms that their actions are far beyond human limits.
Why is our society so good at producing people like this? What is happening socially in our greater society that contributes to this type of behavior and horrifying disfunction? That is the question and they are questions we never seem to as ourselves. Its easy to find monsters, and make shows, which does very little to clarify the underlying issues - maybe even contributes to the violent behavior? Its not like this everywhere else in the world. Uniquely an American phenomena...
It's so sad that the horrors continue all these years later. The only solace is the fact these girls can no longer be harmed and I pray there were gentle spirits or even angles to receive them. Peace come to the families and witnesses.
i am aware that this recording mentioned is probably online on a pirate site or some true crime site but even a rugged old crime buff like me is sufficiently warned off this content, i'd advise leaving this content alone. let the dead lie in peace, on this occasion.
The tape is still used to train FBI Agents, to get them used to the gruesome nature of their jobs. I’m honestly amazed none of them have gone insane at the prospect.
To put his narcissism into context, he actually thought that claiming he had accidentally smothered his victim while sleeping would be a convincing defense in court.
all the forensics and technology over the years, nice to know some things never change, as in justice, still does not happen,always bad childhood, or drink and drugs any old excuse,the victim is nothing,there families nothing, what a life
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum...One of the lead investigators, Paul Bynum of the Hermosa Beach Police Department, fatally shot himself in 1987. In his suicide note, Bynum wrote he believed Bittaker and Norris would get out of prison someday and come after him. He believed that his death would spare his wife and daughter, Kay said in an earlier story
The Toolbox murderers are the cruellest pair of any serial killers I've come across being a lifelong 'fan' of true crime, even worse than the boneyard duo. I purposely avoid watching docos on these animals as they are so disturbing, especially if in detail.
Not all Monsters get caught. You only hear about the ones who do. How many people disappear without a trace, but because they're adults and often with mental issues, they are considered "missing". The perfect victim.
California: "Well if we de-criminalize crime, we can show a drastic reduction in crime🤷" me: "a reduction, not all crime?" California: "Of course we'll be keeping hate speech..."
Imagine death as living in a repeting, worst nightmare you can ever imagine, that is where these men end up. The only thing that makes me feel justice is truly served ha.
All fiends have excuses and too many people pay attention to the excuses, too many people feel "sympathy for the devil" and not much it seems for the victims; our lenient laws certainly reflect who the "Justice System" and many virtue signalling people favour, not the victims it seems.
Muswell Hill. Pronounced Muzzwell. It does come from Moss Well, but it isn't pronounced like that. I have lived there all my life. St. Luke's was 3 minutes walk from me.
The way these poor victims were murdered was pure evil - beyond evil and beyond comprehension. And, babies who are aborted are ripped to pieces before being removed from the mother's body. This information, sadly, is celebrated and approved of by the same people who are justly horrified by the deaths of those teenaged girls.
I really feel uncomfortable with the delight in this old guys face as he talks about these monsters. He almost sounds as if he admires them, creepy ol man.
Kinda weird how a judge even after retirement can keep a death row case an leave the inmate doing natural life when they supposed be held to the justice they were convicted of
and still the same these years later...horror creatures let out of prison over and over to do worse.why are there no recorders in every cell...that would save a lot of lives and tax money...y,for privacy laws for these yokes?🤣disgusting how these were let out..the absloute horror ,and horrific pain these children went through.
Steve Kay had to listen to the tape multiple times. He had to play it in the Bittaker trial. He had to play the tape for Lynette's mother because she had to identify the screams and voice of her daughter. He also had to show her the crime scene and autopsy photos of her lacerated and battered body to confirm it was her daughter. This man has seen and been through so many traumatizing cases. Give him a damn break y'all.
Well said.
I agree. That poor man went thru so much. What horrific crimes
Kay was a prosecutor, he was very well paid for his job, for being tough, not for crying in public.
@@ttx3for Steve, it wasn't about the money. It was about having sympathy for the girls and putting California's most sadistic serial killers behind bars. The Ledford Tape is not released to the public because of how awful it is. And having to listen to it multiple times takes a toll on the human psyche. The lead detective Paul Bynum took his own life because of the brutality of this case and also because of the contents of the tape. It's just awful.
That is horrific. I remeber these monsters.
4 min 20 sec into this video, just listening to the prosecutor describe how he remembers the details of the case, brings me to tears because I've read through this case thoroughly and I've even read the transcript of what was on the audio tapes that those despicable men recorded. To date.... This is absolutely among the top most horrific cases I've ever come across my entire 45 years!
Thank you to the heroes who suffer through the details to bring justice to these monsters.
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We don't give enough credit for the trauma law inforcement, lawyers a d families go through. I salute you
Thank you for all your hard work Mr Kay. I really hope you can get some sleep and peace knowing you helped put those despicable individuals in jail.
Steven Kay is a brilliant guy , he was in tears himself during the trial esp listening to those recordings. The guy should be HONERED for his services, he covered the Manson murders (.as they were called) He also attended all the parole hearings their AFTER. 🙏♥️☮️
The tate-la Bianca murders . Honour the victims 😢
Honor, not honer.
As a counter to the evil that these two men committed it's comforting to hear the people who worked on this case who were Humane and were deeply affected by this case. These two men clearly have lost their Humanity.
The audio of her screams is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. those are the screams of someone experiencing the most horrific pain you could imagine and behind the screams are a couple monsters who think it’s the best sound in the world. So haunting and also unbelievable that we are all the same mammal.
the recordings have been sealed and never have been released to the public
@@KussDamato You can actually hear just 2-3 seconds of it in a documentary called ''The Killing of America''. There's a clip where a crying woman runs out off the courtroom while the tape was being played and as she opens the door you can hear the screams. It lasts only 2 seconds or so but its still quite horrific
Ok, where's the recording? Why are you lying?
@@kontoograniczonesee above comments, search for it, I have heard the few moments, truly horrific
@@kontoograniczone it's not available to the public 💅
The Toolbox Killers' case is a chilling reminder of the depths of human depravity. Their recorded crimes left a lasting impact on everyone who heard them, showcasing the urgent need for advancements in forensic science and criminal psychology to prevent such horrors. This case underscores the importance of vigilance and justice in our society.
There are many, many serial killer crimes that's absolutely horrid (including the monsters who commit them), and Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris are somewhere at the very top. I had sleepless nights after watching one of the documentaries about their crimes!! 😢
What a waste of taxpayer money and air space these two monsters are.
Yes def! And labor pains..
The prosecutor has heart of gold
💯💯💯
genuinely revolting what humans have done to one another on this planet.
why are you blaming everyone? it's not my fault
@@gentlefieldtheorynerd853yes it’s society’s fault
@@paleo704Sometimes
Sometimes it's just a broken individual that literally does not experience feelings like the majority of us. That isn't society but a fundamental problem with our biology and emotions
When I was growing up we all hitchhiked. Can’t imagine seeing a girl out there doing that today.
She wouldn't last one ride.
Yup in 76 I could hike anywhere in almost the same time as driving lol. Got in a situation twice but got free both times
@@susanyeadon6657omg! Glad you made it. Can you tell us anything? Although I don't want to traumatize you.
The clean denominator here is that these criminals were tried previously and basically got let loose into public again as a failure of the court system
The levels of depravity that a human being can actually sink to seemingly becomes ever more despicable. It's beyond description and words to describe what is possible.
Reading some of these comments I feel the police should look into a few of these people.
Ikr... omiword I'm worried just being here ....
Yes, half of them can't spell for toffee.
Right!!
Edgelords and pathetic losers, unlovable freaks who are mad at women because they can't get a date.
@@fionagregory9147ROFL. I am not sure about whapping those who are venting with the law. IF they are making what could be real credible threats other than a vote? Sure.
To hear Ledfords screams was a torment to my soul. Anyone can find them by searching for her tapes being played in her trial. I pray that God gives her a special place in heaven.
When given a death sentence it shld be carried out no longer than 30 days
Look up the case of Denise Huber in 1991.
I read the Transcripts of the audio torture of Ledford. Probably the most gruesome thing ever
You're a sick creep
I reckon if crimes that involve physically hurting or torturing people, if the perpetrators were given that treatment in return, the crime rate would drop dramatically
It's pretty crazy that we have so many people in the US that believe sex offenders can be redeemed and are also against the death penalty.
They're called 'Liberals.' That is another kind of mental disorder.
You cannot cure a psychopath. When they are paroled they pick up where they left off. The justice system never recognised this. Imagine how many psychopaths are now roaming around the US, have come in as unvetted illegals.
Only men in the justice system believe that
I’ve never met anyone with that opinion
im not big on death penalty,but they cannot change,i believe that
Sindy was so beauiful she must of been in alot of pain and very scared and the other girls wicked wicked men who are cold blooded they have no feeling there like a machine and should never have been born how can nature DNA be so cruel
I can’t get Lynette s beautiful eyes out of my mind.
So many young womens lives taken by these monsters 😢
U should check out the case of Gerald and Charlene Gallegos, Fred and rose west, as well as Paul and Karla Holmolka or hisllside stranglers.
You dont have to watch horror movies to witness monsters, just look at your local news.
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented then I worry that I might go from a man to a monster like what this video is talking about.
That’s funny if no need to watch then why do u what? 🤣 be real not here for time pass
@@jack6780 I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get so fed up with it or I'll snapped by becoming a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 HELP, if my desires continues to get prevented in the future then I might get very angry and lose control that I become a monster that this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 I hope you get the help you need and want 💜
I saw the footage of this lawyer as a young man, running out of the court room crying after he heard the tapes. It's heart wrenching.
More than monsters.
Several years ago I read a statement by one of the investigators ( I forget his name) who had a lot of contact with Bittaker..his impression of the murderer was that he was the most loathsome, and depraved personality he had ever encountered..utterly repugnant and disgusting in his behavior.
Just look at his face, smiling in the trial. Look at his old eyes, eyes of a snake.
Sounds about right. Utterly vile thing.
Theirs only a portion of the tape u can hear online when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore...the camera catches a small part of it while the doors are open
Yes I heard that also. There are a few documentaries on these two geniuses.
This case breaks my heart in so many different directions,. My grandmother was a Norris before she married. They were rough country people, but none that I EVER met would EVER lead me to think any of them would do such terrible things. Yes I understand he ( Norris) is his own person but you just can't help but feel the disappointment of the realization
Common name
Chuck Norris would be ashamed
My uncle chuck was also!!!
These two should of never been let out of prison in the first place
I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might plan to become a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 Dude, get therapy.
@@Bentoto97 Okay for real though, I don't know if you're trolling or not. In the case that you're not...go call an hospital.
@@imjustanameless That's what other people replied to me but the problem is, if I get therapy and they tell me no therapy is available right now and they tell me to wait and if I have to wait for many years to come then I worry that it might be too late by then because I might have become a monster by then.
@@imjustanameless If I'm gonna be in a hospital for a long time then I don't want to be in a hospital.
Once a few people listened to the tape and they saw the way it changed people, why did they continue to let others listen to it? Sounds morbid to me.
Wouldn't do for me to be a cop that arrested them because they would never make it to the police station
Mr kay, I hope you find peace through your pursuit of justice. Bless you sir
I need help because if what I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might become a monster like what this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 can you explain
@@justaloner9033 Didn't you read what I replied?
@@justaloner9033 Doesn't my reply explain anything?
@@Bentoto97Please don’t.
@3:00 Shirley was only sixteen-years-old, not eighteen.
OK, that changes everything!
@@josefstrudelowski 👁🙏🏻🧿🤘🏻
@@josefstrudelowskiit doesn’t, but it does make it blatantly obvious these men went for very young vulnerable women. They are often mitigating factors
Dont know how anyone can get a deal after doing that WTF its a damn shame
Live in Scotland and believe the death penalty for the crime
This must’ve been hard for this investigator to handle this case. Salute
Pretty sure our justice system is ripe with criminals. Sickening justice system
And sadly they are not the only devils!!!😢😢😢😢
21:56
the stoicism
is immense from this gentleman.
one brave soul, right there.!
☺️😊
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
Our court system has always been completely broken
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented in the future then I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
You need to see the u.k!!!!!
Theyd be free in 25 years on licence😮
Attention seeker@@Bentoto97
@@bigjumbo9479 I need help because if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might get very angry that I start following those monsters that this video is talking about.
@@bigjumbo9479 HELP, the more my desires gets prevented, the more angrier I get, the closer I plan to follow those monsters that this video is talking about.
pure evil. RIP, GIRLS..
This lawyer ... if he's still alive.... THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON IVE SEEN OF THIS CASE THAT HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN THEIR FACE AND GAVE THESE GIRLS A VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
The most monsterous thing about this is the Monsters who let these Monsters go free from jail or criminaly insane hospitals, these monsterous people are never held responsible for their actions, they will be eventually.
WARNING, if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get too angry that I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
@Bentoto97 That is the responsibility of every person
@@Bentoto97 to make the right decision for themselves and those they affect.
@@maymalone1505 What do you mean by that?
@@maymalone1505 Are you gonna take what I replied to you very seriously?
demons are very real and do walk among us!
Supernatural demons are fairytales, but, humans are real.
Anthony Hardy spent 12 months in a Queensland Psych hospital in the 1980's but was released. Nice to know our mental health system hasnt really improved in the years since!
Poor Kids.....i'm glad you haven't play the Audio recording of the screams, the story without too much details is enough to have night mares.✝️❣️🙏
The transcripts from that audio recording is online and it's really messed up
Where can i find it
The brutal and unusual nature of these murderers not only reflects the brutality of the case but also affirms that their actions are far beyond human limits.
Mental health is so serious....be careful of people.
I used to work out at an aerobics class in the 80’s and men would sit in and watch our class. It was creepy! 😅 I joined a women’s gym! 😊
Oh dear, dear.
Why is our society so good at producing people like this? What is happening socially in our greater society that contributes to this type of behavior and horrifying disfunction? That is the question and they are questions we never seem to as ourselves. Its easy to find monsters, and make shows, which does very little to clarify the underlying issues - maybe even contributes to the violent behavior?
Its not like this everywhere else in the world. Uniquely an American phenomena...
This is exactly the right question.
No, its not uniquely American at all. Watch more true crime. Monstrous atrocities happen everywhere
With all due respect, this is not even close to uniquely American.
Genetics.
It’s housing prices spiraling out of control so both parents have to work and therefore no one home to socialize and bring up the children. 😢
It's so sad that the horrors continue all these years later. The only solace is the fact these girls can no longer be harmed and I pray there were gentle spirits or even angles to receive them. Peace come to the families and witnesses.
RIP TO THE BEAUTIFUL GIRLS MAY THE SECOND PART OF YOUR LIFE BE BEAUTIFUL AND HAPPY ❤❤❤ MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRLS ❤
I bet that tape was blood curderling to listen to and i bet it stuck in there heads brutal😢
I bet...theirs only a portion of it u can hear online from when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore
And to to think it is 17 minutes long 😮. There is also a transcript of the tape, but be warned. It is NOT for the faint hearted
I don’t know if this will help anyone but if you take edibles before bed you don’t dream! Try it out if your prone to nightmares
Not true
i am aware that this recording mentioned is probably online on a pirate site or some true crime site but even a rugged old crime buff like me is sufficiently warned off this content, i'd advise leaving this content alone. let the dead lie in peace, on this occasion.
It's not. I don't know what's up with the people who claim they heard it.
@@kontoograniczone that is good to know
The tape is still used to train FBI Agents, to get them used to the gruesome nature of their jobs. I’m honestly amazed none of them have gone insane at the prospect.
Yeah I mean, why would you want sociopaths be to fbi agents.
No! One gets used to it
Seem like monsters, the worst monsters, are the most likely to be released, as if by design.
If they weren’t released, you never would’ve heard of them.
To put his narcissism into context, he actually thought that claiming he had accidentally smothered his victim while sleeping would be a convincing defense in court.
whered he say that?
Sickening and unbelievable
Steve Kay has the perennial face of who’s seen way too much in his life. Bless him.
Those doctors are crazier than the killers. Seeing all the behaviors still don’t get it.
These are not monsters 👹 😈👺we don’t have a name for them, whoever gave birth to these creatures…I heart goes out to them.
You sick sicko
Demons
Mine doesn't..... They were probably the abusers
all the forensics and technology over the years, nice to know some things never change, as in justice, still does not happen,always bad childhood, or drink and drugs any old excuse,the victim is nothing,there families nothing, what a life
One of the investigators on this case committed suicide because he feared them being released 😢
What was his name?
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum...One of the lead investigators, Paul Bynum of the Hermosa Beach Police Department, fatally shot himself in 1987. In his suicide note, Bynum wrote he believed Bittaker and Norris would get out of prison someday and come after him. He believed that his death would spare his wife and daughter, Kay said in an earlier story
@@nononsense2688 Paul Bynum he should testify the day after in the satanic McMartin pre-school , i think he was murdered
Them??
The Toolbox murderers are the cruellest pair of any serial killers I've come across being a lifelong 'fan' of true crime, even worse than the boneyard duo. I purposely avoid watching docos on these animals as they are so disturbing, especially if in detail.
Check out The Moors Murders in the UK
Monsters is an understatement
Thank goodness they were not videos that would be worse
What kind of justice system is that?????
It's better than mob justice. Just look at what's happening in Haiti
Monsters really do exist and walk amongst us.
Not all Monsters get caught. You only hear about the ones who do.
How many people disappear without a trace, but because they're adults and often with mental issues, they are considered "missing". The perfect victim.
I'm not saying this isn't a great guy, but with the amount of times he said, "UH", I felt like I was about to lose my ever-loving mind.
Uh
These aren't men, they're not even animals....they're insects
Yes, I think monsters is a fitting name for them. To call them insects or animals is an insult to the insects and animals.
No one talk about the system it self wich fails protecting people
California: "Well if we de-criminalize crime, we can show a drastic reduction in crime🤷"
me: "a reduction, not all crime?"
California: "Of course we'll be keeping hate speech..."
These monsters were sick in the head no sain person could do things like this without being disturbed
Sane!
Why were they released so many timrs
Wouldn't we sll love to know that,it happens over and over again, Something rotten going on, nothing new here😮
That's how the system worked back in the 70s. They loved releasing rapists
Imagine death as living in a repeting, worst nightmare you can ever imagine, that is where these men end up. The only thing that makes me feel justice is truly served ha.
All fiends have excuses and too many people pay attention to the excuses, too many people feel "sympathy for the devil" and not much it seems for the victims; our lenient laws certainly reflect who the "Justice System" and many virtue signalling people favour, not the victims it seems.
Muswell Hill. Pronounced Muzzwell. It does come from Moss Well, but it isn't pronounced like that. I have lived there all my life. St. Luke's was 3 minutes walk from me.
Only it is always pronounced muz well.
@@sharonletchford9375 it is. I grew up there.
mad its not that big a place but youve got this monster and dennis nilsen too
@@liverbirdxoxo1984 I know! You'd never think it! lol
Definitely needs to make an appearance in tool school
Just curious where they developed those photographs without anyone seeing them? Or were there more sophisticated cameras then already, polaroids?
Polaroid cameras existed then. I got one for my birthday in 1980.😊
This Mr Kay chap really seems like a good egg...
I could never have been a juror on this DA's case. The constant stuttering would drive me mad
This attorney is clearly mental from his experiences
How can people do this horrible crime
The way these poor victims were murdered was pure evil - beyond evil and beyond comprehension. And, babies who are aborted are ripped to pieces before being removed from the mother's body. This information, sadly, is celebrated and approved of by the same people who are justly horrified by the deaths of those teenaged girls.
That guy was the original joker .
this would have a time for jailhouse justice.
I really feel uncomfortable with the delight in this old guys face as he talks about these monsters. He almost sounds as if he admires them, creepy ol man.
Then you did'nt saw his eyes nearly in tears. It's just the physics of his mouth.
Kinda weird how a judge even after retirement can keep a death row case an leave the inmate doing natural life when they supposed be held to the justice they were convicted of
Both killers are now deceased.
thank fk
I don't want to know what
Happened to them
and still the same these years later...horror creatures let out of prison over and over to do worse.why are there no recorders in every cell...that would save a lot of lives and tax money...y,for privacy laws for these yokes?🤣disgusting how these were let out..the absloute horror ,and horrific pain these children went through.
Stephen Kay from his mother.
Everyone is a latent serial killer
This is an absolute terrible case but this is kind of hard to listen to because how much he keeps saying “um”
Mr. Limp Limp shoulda taken care of his diabetes.