4 min 20 sec into this video, just listening to the prosecutor describe how he remembers the details of the case, brings me to tears because I've read through this case thoroughly and I've even read the transcript of what was on the audio tapes that those despicable men recorded. To date.... This is absolutely among the top most horrific cases I've ever come across my entire 45 years!
Steve Kay had to listen to the tape multiple times. He had to play it in the Bittaker trial. He had to play the tape for Lynette's mother because she had to identify the screams and voice of her daughter. He also had to show her the crime scene and autopsy photos of her lacerated and battered body to confirm it was her daughter. This man has seen and been through so many traumatizing cases. Give him a damn break y'all.
@@ttx3for Steve, it wasn't about the money. It was about having sympathy for the girls and putting California's most sadistic serial killers behind bars. The Ledford Tape is not released to the public because of how awful it is. And having to listen to it multiple times takes a toll on the human psyche. The lead detective Paul Bynum took his own life because of the brutality of this case and also because of the contents of the tape. It's just awful.
As a counter to the evil that these two men committed it's comforting to hear the people who worked on this case who were Humane and were deeply affected by this case. These two men clearly have lost their Humanity.
The Toolbox Killers' case is a chilling reminder of the depths of human depravity. Their recorded crimes left a lasting impact on everyone who heard them, showcasing the urgent need for advancements in forensic science and criminal psychology to prevent such horrors. This case underscores the importance of vigilance and justice in our society.
The audio of her screams is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. those are the screams of someone experiencing the most horrific pain you could imagine and behind the screams are a couple monsters who think it’s the best sound in the world. So haunting and also unbelievable that we are all the same mammal.
@@KussDamato You can actually hear just 2-3 seconds of it in a documentary called ''The Killing of America''. There's a clip where a crying woman runs out off the courtroom while the tape was being played and as she opens the door you can hear the screams. It lasts only 2 seconds or so but its still quite horrific
Steven Kay is a brilliant guy , he was in tears himself during the trial esp listening to those recordings. The guy should be HONERED for his services, he covered the Manson murders (.as they were called) He also attended all the parole hearings their AFTER. 🙏♥️☮️
There are many, many serial killer crimes that's absolutely horrid (including the monsters who commit them), and Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris are somewhere at the very top. I had sleepless nights after watching one of the documentaries about their crimes!! 😢
You cannot cure a psychopath. When they are paroled they pick up where they left off. The justice system never recognised this. Imagine how many psychopaths are now roaming around the US, have come in as unvetted illegals.
The clean denominator here is that these criminals were tried previously and basically got let loose into public again as a failure of the court system
To hear Ledfords screams was a torment to my soul. Anyone can find them by searching for her tapes being played in her trial. I pray that God gives her a special place in heaven.
that's crazy n way to fast. gotta think logically not emotionally. do you know how many wrong convictions there is ? image how many people would be die wrongly if that was the case.
@@paleo704Sometimes Sometimes it's just a broken individual that literally does not experience feelings like the majority of us. That isn't society but a fundamental problem with our biology and emotions
You do realize that just because someone is an unfeeling sociopath, doesn’t mean they have to inflict harm on others. It means that they CAN, and it won’t bother them or effect them even a little bit, but it does NOT mean that they HAVE TO… Being immune to guilt or remorse or empathy is one thing, sadistically deriving pleasure from the pain of others is EVIL.
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented then I worry that I might go from a man to a monster like what this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get so fed up with it or I'll snapped by becoming a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 HELP, if my desires continues to get prevented in the future then I might get very angry and lose control that I become a monster that this video is talking about.
I reckon if crimes that involve physically hurting or torturing people, if the perpetrators were given that treatment in return, the crime rate would drop dramatically
@@fionagregory9147ROFL. I am not sure about whapping those who are venting with the law. IF they are making what could be real credible threats other than a vote? Sure.
The levels of depravity that a human being can actually sink to seemingly becomes ever more despicable. It's beyond description and words to describe what is possible.
I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might plan to become a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@imjustanameless That's what other people replied to me but the problem is, if I get therapy and they tell me no therapy is available right now and they tell me to wait and if I have to wait for many years to come then I worry that it might be too late by then because I might have become a monster by then.
Sindy was so beauiful she must of been in alot of pain and very scared and the other girls wicked wicked men who are cold blooded they have no feeling there like a machine and should never have been born how can nature DNA be so cruel
Several years ago I read a statement by one of the investigators ( I forget his name) who had a lot of contact with Bittaker..his impression of the murderer was that he was the most loathsome, and depraved personality he had ever encountered..utterly repugnant and disgusting in his behavior.
Theirs only a portion of the tape u can hear online when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore...the camera catches a small part of it while the doors are open
@@bigjumbo9479 I need help because if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might get very angry that I start following those monsters that this video is talking about.
@@bigjumbo9479 HELP, the more my desires gets prevented, the more angrier I get, the closer I plan to follow those monsters that this video is talking about.
This case breaks my heart in so many different directions,. My grandmother was a Norris before she married. They were rough country people, but none that I EVER met would EVER lead me to think any of them would do such terrible things. Yes I understand he ( Norris) is his own person but you just can't help but feel the disappointment of the realization
I need help because if what I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might become a monster like what this video is talking about.
To put his narcissism into context, he actually thought that claiming he had accidentally smothered his victim while sleeping would be a convincing defense in court.
The most monsterous thing about this is the Monsters who let these Monsters go free from jail or criminaly insane hospitals, these monsterous people are never held responsible for their actions, they will be eventually.
WARNING, if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get too angry that I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
i am aware that this recording mentioned is probably online on a pirate site or some true crime site but even a rugged old crime buff like me is sufficiently warned off this content, i'd advise leaving this content alone. let the dead lie in peace, on this occasion.
This lawyer ... if he's still alive.... THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON IVE SEEN OF THIS CASE THAT HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN THEIR FACE AND GAVE THESE GIRLS A VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Hardy spent 12 months in a Queensland Psych hospital in the 1980's but was released. Nice to know our mental health system hasnt really improved in the years since!
It's so sad that the horrors continue all these years later. The only solace is the fact these girls can no longer be harmed and I pray there were gentle spirits or even angles to receive them. Peace come to the families and witnesses.
Nothing says you want to respect the victim and tell their story more than an advertisement in the middle of an agent describing the horrible acts a monster does to a young girl
The tape is still used to train FBI Agents, to get them used to the gruesome nature of their jobs. I’m honestly amazed none of them have gone insane at the prospect.
Why is our society so good at producing people like this? What is happening socially in our greater society that contributes to this type of behavior and horrifying disfunction? That is the question and they are questions we never seem to as ourselves. Its easy to find monsters, and make shows, which does very little to clarify the underlying issues - maybe even contributes to the violent behavior? Its not like this everywhere else in the world. Uniquely an American phenomena...
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum...One of the lead investigators, Paul Bynum of the Hermosa Beach Police Department, fatally shot himself in 1987. In his suicide note, Bynum wrote he believed Bittaker and Norris would get out of prison someday and come after him. He believed that his death would spare his wife and daughter, Kay said in an earlier story
Not all Monsters get caught. You only hear about the ones who do. How many people disappear without a trace, but because they're adults and often with mental issues, they are considered "missing". The perfect victim.
I’m starting to feel sick listening to this. I was a teenager back then. Although I lived in western New York State, we lived in the country on a dead end road and I walked alone all the time. This freaks me out.
California: "Well if we de-criminalize crime, we can show a drastic reduction in crime🤷" me: "a reduction, not all crime?" California: "Of course we'll be keeping hate speech..."
all the forensics and technology over the years, nice to know some things never change, as in justice, still does not happen,always bad childhood, or drink and drugs any old excuse,the victim is nothing,there families nothing, what a life
The Toolbox murderers are the cruellest pair of any serial killers I've come across being a lifelong 'fan' of true crime, even worse than the boneyard duo. I purposely avoid watching docos on these animals as they are so disturbing, especially if in detail.
The way these poor victims were murdered was pure evil - beyond evil and beyond comprehension. And, babies who are aborted are ripped to pieces before being removed from the mother's body. This information, sadly, is celebrated and approved of by the same people who are justly horrified by the deaths of those teenaged girls.
And the god that people love so much sat there and did nothing while all of this happened. Are you one of the sociopaths who's willing to give him a free pass merely because of the tired old dog eared "free will" sentence fragment?
All fiends have excuses and too many people pay attention to the excuses, too many people feel "sympathy for the devil" and not much it seems for the victims; our lenient laws certainly reflect who the "Justice System" and many virtue signalling people favour, not the victims it seems.
It seems like to me like we gave no justice to the victims and they just sit on death row and never get put to death. How’s that justice? This is just wrong so wrong.
32:56 i’m intrigued to know which one.? as i have many family members that are mental health nurses. both male and female, working in queensland at that time. interesting….! 🤔🤔🤔 ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
Imagine death as living in a repeting, worst nightmare you can ever imagine, that is where these men end up. The only thing that makes me feel justice is truly served ha.
Kinda weird how a judge even after retirement can keep a death row case an leave the inmate doing natural life when they supposed be held to the justice they were convicted of
4 min 20 sec into this video, just listening to the prosecutor describe how he remembers the details of the case, brings me to tears because I've read through this case thoroughly and I've even read the transcript of what was on the audio tapes that those despicable men recorded. To date.... This is absolutely among the top most horrific cases I've ever come across my entire 45 years!
Steve Kay had to listen to the tape multiple times. He had to play it in the Bittaker trial. He had to play the tape for Lynette's mother because she had to identify the screams and voice of her daughter. He also had to show her the crime scene and autopsy photos of her lacerated and battered body to confirm it was her daughter. This man has seen and been through so many traumatizing cases. Give him a damn break y'all.
Well said.
I agree. That poor man went thru so much. What horrific crimes
Kay was a prosecutor, he was very well paid for his job, for being tough, not for crying in public.
@@ttx3for Steve, it wasn't about the money. It was about having sympathy for the girls and putting California's most sadistic serial killers behind bars. The Ledford Tape is not released to the public because of how awful it is. And having to listen to it multiple times takes a toll on the human psyche. The lead detective Paul Bynum took his own life because of the brutality of this case and also because of the contents of the tape. It's just awful.
That is horrific. I remeber these monsters.
Thank you to the heroes who suffer through the details to bring justice to these monsters.
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Thank you for all your hard work Mr Kay. I really hope you can get some sleep and peace knowing you helped put those despicable individuals in jail.
As a counter to the evil that these two men committed it's comforting to hear the people who worked on this case who were Humane and were deeply affected by this case. These two men clearly have lost their Humanity.
We don't give enough credit for the trauma law inforcement, lawyers a d families go through. I salute you
The Toolbox Killers' case is a chilling reminder of the depths of human depravity. Their recorded crimes left a lasting impact on everyone who heard them, showcasing the urgent need for advancements in forensic science and criminal psychology to prevent such horrors. This case underscores the importance of vigilance and justice in our society.
The audio of her screams is one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever heard. those are the screams of someone experiencing the most horrific pain you could imagine and behind the screams are a couple monsters who think it’s the best sound in the world. So haunting and also unbelievable that we are all the same mammal.
the recordings have been sealed and never have been released to the public
@@KussDamato You can actually hear just 2-3 seconds of it in a documentary called ''The Killing of America''. There's a clip where a crying woman runs out off the courtroom while the tape was being played and as she opens the door you can hear the screams. It lasts only 2 seconds or so but its still quite horrific
Ok, where's the recording? Why are you lying?
@@kontoograniczonesee above comments, search for it, I have heard the few moments, truly horrific
@@kontoograniczone it's not available to the public 💅
Steven Kay is a brilliant guy , he was in tears himself during the trial esp listening to those recordings. The guy should be HONERED for his services, he covered the Manson murders (.as they were called) He also attended all the parole hearings their AFTER. 🙏♥️☮️
The tate-la Bianca murders . Honour the victims 😢
Honor, not honer.
What a waste of taxpayer money and air space these two monsters are.
Yes def! And labor pains..
There are many, many serial killer crimes that's absolutely horrid (including the monsters who commit them), and Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris are somewhere at the very top. I had sleepless nights after watching one of the documentaries about their crimes!! 😢
It's pretty crazy that we have so many people in the US that believe sex offenders can be redeemed and are also against the death penalty.
They're called 'Liberals.' That is another kind of mental disorder.
You cannot cure a psychopath. When they are paroled they pick up where they left off. The justice system never recognised this. Imagine how many psychopaths are now roaming around the US, have come in as unvetted illegals.
Only men in the justice system believe that
I’ve never met anyone with that opinion
im not big on death penalty,but they cannot change,i believe that
I saw the footage of this lawyer as a young man, running out of the court room crying after he heard the tapes. It's heart wrenching.
The prosecutor has heart of gold
💯💯💯
The clean denominator here is that these criminals were tried previously and basically got let loose into public again as a failure of the court system
To hear Ledfords screams was a torment to my soul. Anyone can find them by searching for her tapes being played in her trial. I pray that God gives her a special place in heaven.
When given a death sentence it shld be carried out no longer than 30 days
Look up the case of Denise Huber in 1991.
that's crazy n way to fast. gotta think logically not emotionally.
do you know how many wrong convictions there is ? image how many people would be die wrongly if that was the case.
genuinely revolting what humans have done to one another on this planet.
why are you blaming everyone? it's not my fault
@@gentlefieldtheorynerd853yes it’s society’s fault
@@paleo704Sometimes
Sometimes it's just a broken individual that literally does not experience feelings like the majority of us. That isn't society but a fundamental problem with our biology and emotions
You do realize that just because someone is an unfeeling sociopath, doesn’t mean they have to inflict harm on others. It means that they CAN, and it won’t bother them or effect them even a little bit, but it does NOT mean that they HAVE TO… Being immune to guilt or remorse or empathy is one thing, sadistically deriving pleasure from the pain of others is EVIL.
When I was growing up we all hitchhiked. Can’t imagine seeing a girl out there doing that today.
She wouldn't last one ride.
Yup in 76 I could hike anywhere in almost the same time as driving lol. Got in a situation twice but got free both times
@@susanyeadon6657omg! Glad you made it. Can you tell us anything? Although I don't want to traumatize you.
You dont have to watch horror movies to witness monsters, just look at your local news.
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented then I worry that I might go from a man to a monster like what this video is talking about.
That’s funny if no need to watch then why do u what? 🤣 be real not here for time pass
@@jack6780 I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get so fed up with it or I'll snapped by becoming a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@jack6780 HELP, if my desires continues to get prevented in the future then I might get very angry and lose control that I become a monster that this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 I hope you get the help you need and want 💜
I reckon if crimes that involve physically hurting or torturing people, if the perpetrators were given that treatment in return, the crime rate would drop dramatically
Reading some of these comments I feel the police should look into a few of these people.
Ikr... omiword I'm worried just being here ....
Yes, half of them can't spell for toffee.
Right!!
Edgelords and pathetic losers, unlovable freaks who are mad at women because they can't get a date.
@@fionagregory9147ROFL. I am not sure about whapping those who are venting with the law. IF they are making what could be real credible threats other than a vote? Sure.
The levels of depravity that a human being can actually sink to seemingly becomes ever more despicable. It's beyond description and words to describe what is possible.
These two should of never been let out of prison in the first place
I need help because if my desires keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might plan to become a monster myself that this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 Dude, get therapy.
@@Bentoto97 Okay for real though, I don't know if you're trolling or not. In the case that you're not...go call an hospital.
@@imjustanameless That's what other people replied to me but the problem is, if I get therapy and they tell me no therapy is available right now and they tell me to wait and if I have to wait for many years to come then I worry that it might be too late by then because I might have become a monster by then.
@@imjustanameless If I'm gonna be in a hospital for a long time then I don't want to be in a hospital.
Sindy was so beauiful she must of been in alot of pain and very scared and the other girls wicked wicked men who are cold blooded they have no feeling there like a machine and should never have been born how can nature DNA be so cruel
I can’t get Lynette s beautiful eyes out of my mind.
I read the Transcripts of the audio torture of Ledford. Probably the most gruesome thing ever
You're a sick creep
@3:00 Shirley was only sixteen-years-old, not eighteen.
OK, that changes everything!
@@josefstrudelowski 👁🙏🏻🧿🤘🏻
@@josefstrudelowskiit doesn’t, but it does make it blatantly obvious these men went for very young vulnerable women. They are often mitigating factors
So many young womens lives taken by these monsters 😢
U should check out the case of Gerald and Charlene Gallegos, Fred and rose west, as well as Paul and Karla Holmolka or hisllside stranglers.
Several years ago I read a statement by one of the investigators ( I forget his name) who had a lot of contact with Bittaker..his impression of the murderer was that he was the most loathsome, and depraved personality he had ever encountered..utterly repugnant and disgusting in his behavior.
Just look at his face, smiling in the trial. Look at his old eyes, eyes of a snake.
Sounds about right. Utterly vile thing.
More than monsters.
Theirs only a portion of the tape u can hear online when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore...the camera catches a small part of it while the doors are open
Yes I heard that also. There are a few documentaries on these two geniuses.
Our court system has always been completely broken
HELP, if what I desire in my life continues to get prevented in the future then I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
You need to see the u.k!!!!!
Theyd be free in 25 years on licence😮
Attention seeker@@Bentoto97
@@bigjumbo9479 I need help because if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might get very angry that I start following those monsters that this video is talking about.
@@bigjumbo9479 HELP, the more my desires gets prevented, the more angrier I get, the closer I plan to follow those monsters that this video is talking about.
Live in Scotland and believe the death penalty for the crime
This case breaks my heart in so many different directions,. My grandmother was a Norris before she married. They were rough country people, but none that I EVER met would EVER lead me to think any of them would do such terrible things. Yes I understand he ( Norris) is his own person but you just can't help but feel the disappointment of the realization
Common name
Chuck Norris would be ashamed
My uncle chuck was also!!!
Mr kay, I hope you find peace through your pursuit of justice. Bless you sir
I need help because if what I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I worry that I might become a monster like what this video is talking about.
@@Bentoto97 can you explain
@@justaloner9033 Didn't you read what I replied?
@@justaloner9033 Doesn't my reply explain anything?
@@Bentoto97Please don’t.
21:56
the stoicism
is immense from this gentleman.
one brave soul, right there.!
☺️😊
✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
Wouldn't do for me to be a cop that arrested them because they would never make it to the police station
Mental health is so serious....be careful of people.
I lived in the South Bay during this time. I was in high school and walked everywhere. Prayers for the victims.
Pretty sure our justice system is ripe with criminals. Sickening justice system
To put his narcissism into context, he actually thought that claiming he had accidentally smothered his victim while sleeping would be a convincing defense in court.
whered he say that?
The most monsterous thing about this is the Monsters who let these Monsters go free from jail or criminaly insane hospitals, these monsterous people are never held responsible for their actions, they will be eventually.
WARNING, if everything I desire in my life keeps getting prevented in the future then I might get too angry that I might become a monster that this video is talking about.
@Bentoto97 That is the responsibility of every person
@@Bentoto97 to make the right decision for themselves and those they affect.
@@maymalone1505 What do you mean by that?
@@maymalone1505 Are you gonna take what I replied to you very seriously?
Dont know how anyone can get a deal after doing that WTF its a damn shame
This must’ve been hard for this investigator to handle this case. Salute
Poor Kids.....i'm glad you haven't play the Audio recording of the screams, the story without too much details is enough to have night mares.✝️❣️🙏
this is one of the best things i ever came across...i want to hear the full tape before going to sleep,i want it as my ringtone...its awesome.
You want what as your ringtone?
@@MelanieAbalos-b7q this tape. but uncensored.
i am aware that this recording mentioned is probably online on a pirate site or some true crime site but even a rugged old crime buff like me is sufficiently warned off this content, i'd advise leaving this content alone. let the dead lie in peace, on this occasion.
It's not. I don't know what's up with the people who claim they heard it.
@@kontoograniczone that is good to know
pure evil. RIP, GIRLS..
This lawyer ... if he's still alive.... THANK YOU FOR BEING THE ONLY PERSON IVE SEEN OF THIS CASE THAT HAS ACTUALLY SHOWN THEIR FACE AND GAVE THESE GIRLS A VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Hardy spent 12 months in a Queensland Psych hospital in the 1980's but was released. Nice to know our mental health system hasnt really improved in the years since!
And sadly they are not the only devils!!!😢😢😢😢
Once a few people listened to the tape and they saw the way it changed people, why did they continue to let others listen to it? Sounds morbid to me.
demons are very real and do walk among us!
Supernatural demons are fairytales, but, humans are real.
It's so sad that the horrors continue all these years later. The only solace is the fact these girls can no longer be harmed and I pray there were gentle spirits or even angles to receive them. Peace come to the families and witnesses.
The transcripts from that audio recording is online and it's really messed up
Where can i find it
Nothing says you want to respect the victim and tell their story more than an advertisement in the middle of an agent describing the horrible acts a monster does to a young girl
Bro thinks the maker of the content decides when the advert appears 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The tape is still used to train FBI Agents, to get them used to the gruesome nature of their jobs. I’m honestly amazed none of them have gone insane at the prospect.
Yeah I mean, why would you want sociopaths be to fbi agents.
No! One gets used to it
Why is our society so good at producing people like this? What is happening socially in our greater society that contributes to this type of behavior and horrifying disfunction? That is the question and they are questions we never seem to as ourselves. Its easy to find monsters, and make shows, which does very little to clarify the underlying issues - maybe even contributes to the violent behavior?
Its not like this everywhere else in the world. Uniquely an American phenomena...
This is exactly the right question.
No, its not uniquely American at all. Watch more true crime. Monstrous atrocities happen everywhere
With all due respect, this is not even close to uniquely American.
Genetics.
It’s housing prices spiraling out of control so both parents have to work and therefore no one home to socialize and bring up the children. 😢
I don’t know if this will help anyone but if you take edibles before bed you don’t dream! Try it out if your prone to nightmares
Not true
RIP TO THE BEAUTIFUL GIRLS MAY THE SECOND PART OF YOUR LIFE BE BEAUTIFUL AND HAPPY ❤❤❤ MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT TO ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG GIRLS ❤
These aren't men, they're not even animals....they're insects
Yes, I think monsters is a fitting name for them. To call them insects or animals is an insult to the insects and animals.
@@lynxcatt3845 I so agree. Animals and insects don’t do that. Some eat dead things, but that’s survival, not monstrous cruelty.
Steve Kay has the perennial face of who’s seen way too much in his life. Bless him.
Why were they released so many timrs
Wouldn't we sll love to know that,it happens over and over again, Something rotten going on, nothing new here😮
That's how the system worked back in the 70s. They loved releasing rapists
Because of democrats.
One of the investigators on this case committed suicide because he feared them being released 😢
What was his name?
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum
@@nononsense2688Paul bynum...One of the lead investigators, Paul Bynum of the Hermosa Beach Police Department, fatally shot himself in 1987. In his suicide note, Bynum wrote he believed Bittaker and Norris would get out of prison someday and come after him. He believed that his death would spare his wife and daughter, Kay said in an earlier story
@@nononsense2688 Paul Bynum he should testify the day after in the satanic McMartin pre-school , i think he was murdered
Them??
I bet that tape was blood curderling to listen to and i bet it stuck in there heads brutal😢
I bet...theirs only a portion of it u can hear online from when people are coming out of the courtroom who cant listen to it anymore
And to to think it is 17 minutes long 😮. There is also a transcript of the tape, but be warned. It is NOT for the faint hearted
Not all Monsters get caught. You only hear about the ones who do.
How many people disappear without a trace, but because they're adults and often with mental issues, they are considered "missing". The perfect victim.
I wonder how many they truly killed, I was quite young when I first heard about them and they really terrified me.
Those doctors are crazier than the killers. Seeing all the behaviors still don’t get it.
Sickening and unbelievable
These are not monsters 👹 😈👺we don’t have a name for them, whoever gave birth to these creatures…I heart goes out to them.
You sick sicko
Demons
Mine doesn't..... They were probably the abusers
I think the victim's families of the tool box killers need to get "Prison Justice" if the courts don't want to give them justice.
What kind of justice system is that?????
It's better than mob justice. Just look at what's happening in Haiti
I’m starting to feel sick listening to this. I was a teenager back then. Although I lived in western New York State, we lived in the country on a dead end road and I walked alone all the time. This freaks me out.
Seem like monsters, the worst monsters, are the most likely to be released, as if by design.
If they weren’t released, you never would’ve heard of them.
California: "Well if we de-criminalize crime, we can show a drastic reduction in crime🤷"
me: "a reduction, not all crime?"
California: "Of course we'll be keeping hate speech..."
No wonder the Scales of justice is blindfolded.
I used to work out at an aerobics class in the 80’s and men would sit in and watch our class. It was creepy! 😅 I joined a women’s gym! 😊
Oh dear, dear.
all the forensics and technology over the years, nice to know some things never change, as in justice, still does not happen,always bad childhood, or drink and drugs any old excuse,the victim is nothing,there families nothing, what a life
The Toolbox murderers are the cruellest pair of any serial killers I've come across being a lifelong 'fan' of true crime, even worse than the boneyard duo. I purposely avoid watching docos on these animals as they are so disturbing, especially if in detail.
Check out The Moors Murders in the UK
Monsters is an understatement
I'm not saying this isn't a great guy, but with the amount of times he said, "UH", I felt like I was about to lose my ever-loving mind.
Uh
The way these poor victims were murdered was pure evil - beyond evil and beyond comprehension. And, babies who are aborted are ripped to pieces before being removed from the mother's body. This information, sadly, is celebrated and approved of by the same people who are justly horrified by the deaths of those teenaged girls.
Monsters really do exist and walk amongst us.
And the god that people love so much sat there and did nothing while all of this happened. Are you one of the sociopaths who's willing to give him a free pass merely because of the tired old dog eared "free will" sentence fragment?
No one talk about the system it self wich fails protecting people
Just curious where they developed those photographs without anyone seeing them? Or were there more sophisticated cameras then already, polaroids?
Polaroid cameras existed then. I got one for my birthday in 1980.😊
This attorney is clearly mental from his experiences
That guy was the original joker .
All fiends have excuses and too many people pay attention to the excuses, too many people feel "sympathy for the devil" and not much it seems for the victims; our lenient laws certainly reflect who the "Justice System" and many virtue signalling people favour, not the victims it seems.
Both killers are now deceased.
thank fk
Thank goodness they were not videos that would be worse
It seems like to me like we gave no justice to the victims and they just sit on death row and never get put to death. How’s that justice? This is just wrong so wrong.
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i’m intrigued to know which one.?
as i have many family members that are mental health nurses.
both male and female, working in queensland at that time.
interesting….!
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These monsters were sick in the head no sain person could do things like this without being disturbed
Sane!
Imagine death as living in a repeting, worst nightmare you can ever imagine, that is where these men end up. The only thing that makes me feel justice is truly served ha.
I could never have been a juror on this DA's case. The constant stuttering would drive me mad
This Mr Kay chap really seems like a good egg...
Definitely needs to make an appearance in tool school
May she rest in peace.
Kinda weird how a judge even after retirement can keep a death row case an leave the inmate doing natural life when they supposed be held to the justice they were convicted of