Well, since the original title would be proto-god impact, most of the story talks about the impact that the archon war, (the war of the gods), left on the world of tyvet. So technically the title is the sub plot of the story.
they picked the japanese spelling simply because the original founders of mihoyo are gigantic weebs. im not insulting them, im not joking, im just stating facts. mihoyo's tagline thing is "tech otakus save the world". actually really cute ngl.
From my interpretation, it means Wallet impact as it has a huge impact on the thickness of my wallet. It is said that as the hype for the new 5* star character increases, the thinner my wallet becomes. Speaking from my experience, it is undeniably true. Rip 💸💸.
2 reasons why the title is jp: 1. The company is literally inspired by jp games. 2. You guys keep massacring chinese pronounciation, we ain't trusting you with dat.
The whole Mihoyo's company culture originated from Japan, their products are a reflection of Japanese culture, just in China. I mean if a Chinese person open up an Italian restaurant with authentic food, I think he would give it an Italian name
@@chorbles Plot twist: What if their slogan actually refers to Kiana and Bronya (A.k.a. Two high-tech Otaku girls fighting the Honkai to save the world)?
I find it very interesting that the Western world got the Japanese pronunciation probably because of negative connotation with Chinese products in general.
to add salt to the injury, some people actually went on and give the japanese credit for the creation of genshin, sure it is inspired by them but it is still made by the chinese as a chinese, it hurts
So basically when we are ascending characters, we’re actually getting them closer to godhood. Okay cool Edit: This is the most liked comment I have lmao. I never thought ppl would actually see this 😂
it's also a possibility they took an inspiration from Gnosticism, a religious movement with terminology i recognise alot in the game's story. In particular the fact that in late gnostic writings there are mentions of 7 archons. just like how there are 7 archons in Genshin Impact each owning a gnosis
There's definitely a massive amount of gnostic themes and concepts being used in Genshin Impact. Highly recommend Nag-Hammadi Library for further reading.
Here's my theory about it. Genshin when I researched about it is roughly translating to "Primordial Gods" or ancient gods (just like the gods of celestia before the archon war). Just like what you speculated, in Honkai there's a catastrophic event that happens whenever Humanity's technologies reach a certain degree which will led to a Honkai Impact that will destroy this 'humanity's technology' and never to get back up from it. On the other hand, I believe that Genshin Impact means "The descent of the gods" or the "The impact that brought by the gods" just like what you said. If you remember correctly, 500 years ago is when something like this happened in Teyvat, the kingdom of Khaenri'ah (where Kaeya and Dainesleif(?) came from) is said to have the power and technology to go against the gods at that time, and 500 years ago too is the time when we met the unknown god at the start because we saw in onoe of the trailer what happened to Lumine after being sent to Teyvat. She saw destruction everywhere even in spiral abyss (prob the once territory of the khaenri'ah, after all there's also the theory that the abyss order are once people of the said lost kingdom that got turned into "dregs" just like what Dainsleif said while the rest are chosen "him and kaeya, prob others too) Back to the topic, 500 years ago is when the lost kingdom destroyed, also the time we met the unknown god and separated from our sister which is also the time the unknown god appeared and said "the arrogance of mankind must end now" or something along those lines, prob referring to the khaenri'ah's "dream yet to be dreamed" of taking over celestia and become gods themselves, which when the unknown god is sent out to 'descent' to teyvat and destroy humanity we coincidentally met them while travelling, hence the the first encounter in our 'journe'. Long story short, Genshin Impact might be referring to the catastrophe when the gods descended to Teyvat to destroy humanity that has the potential to go against the said gods. Anyways, nice vid!
@@nautuangpu you meant Venti and Zhongli's? But from what I speculated, Venti is forced to give his Gnosis to Signor because he can't fight back at that time for his power might affect the mortals living in mondstadt, on the other hand Zhongli might also be on the side of the Tsaritsa secretly (if you don't know the Tsaritsa might not be our enemy, because in the trailer she is said to be a rebel to the divine unlike the Hydro Archon who is afraid out of the divine). Zhongli might be quite angry to the ancient gods because if not for the archon war that they initiated, Guizhong his former 'friend' might not die or got corrupted during the war, and for him to be forced to watch his 'friend' turned into dust and nothingness in front of him. He might not be going against the ancient gods upfront, but he can help the Tsaritsa in some ways, hence the secret bargaining chip the Tsaritsa gave in exchange of his Gnosis in the last contract. This is just like 2 birds in one stone for Zhongli, one he can get his revenge, two he can have an excuse to become a mortal and abandoned his power so that he can understand the mortals and finally opened the Memory of Dust which Guizhong left to him... In the end, giving the Gnosis to the Tsaritsa might be the best way to defeat the ancient/unknown gods as to their knowledge.
@@nautuangpu wait, you mean whose taking the Gnosis? if it's the Unknown Goddess then I don't have any information of her gathering the Gnosis, when in fact every gods have Gnosis inside them, on the other hand if you're talking about the Tsaritsa, then the gathering of Gnosis is understandable, but the 'descent' on her part isn't really a thing, because all the Archons are in Teyvat and not in Celestia. So there's no point in descending when you are already in the continent itself.
Genshin is the Japanese/Mandarin name of Allogenes, which are Vision wielders, aka the gacha characters you roll for. So the true Genshin Impact was literally the friends we made along the way.
Genshin -> Original God. Perhaps the influence of the Original God on the world? There has also been some curiosity towards the Unknown God that looks like Kiana Kaslana 🤔
I'm pretty confident that "impact" is a reference to Evanghelion seeing how much the team at mihoyo was influenced by it from the name of their first game, fly me to the moon to honkai 3rd's story with the honkai wars kinda mirroring the angel impacts and characters filling similar roles and archetypes like Bronya with Rei
It's not their first game. Their first game was quite unpopular and got shut down very soon. Then they make ggz and gain success. After that HI3 come out which was consider an alternate story for ggz because they reuse some characters and plot
@@dieptrieu6564 when I said their first game I was referring to "fly me to the moon" the one that you're talking about, the one that got shut down (which i mentioned btw)
True, paimon is so out of place! I thought it would make more sense that she is the one travel along with the traveller world to world and guide them in those worlds. But she just came out of nowhere in the middle of teyvat, floating around, and the most similar to other people she could be is with dainleif with that galaxy cape....
@@cuu899 probably just mihoyo pushing their mascot into games they made. But knowing Mihoyo and their tendency to subvert everything, she probably will become the final boss or sth.
I think Paimons a celestial being but that's only because of how she floats and her clothes. If she was a celestial being then the question would be why she came to the traveller.
and the fact that western audience have bad sentiment towards chinese MMO and china, using japanese name and pushing the english and japanese dub as their features would make people think it's japanese game.
The "impact" in both genshin and honkai are because the ceo dawei is a huge fan of Evangelion, and thats why honkai impact is named honkai impact. I think they just wanted to keep the same trend with genshin too
I think "impact" in Honkai refers to the Honkai impacts that happen in its story (the 3rd being the present one there), but I don't have a clue as to what it means to Genshin, but maybe it means the impact the unknown god(dess) made in the world 500 years ago
About the japanese name on a chinese game, I'm pretty sure it's due to the fact that mihoyo are die-hard otakus, pretty obvious from all the anime references throughout their games and the "tech otakus save the world" in their company logo.
I find it very interesting to dig deep into these types of things, but it's also funny to think that it could've also all just boiled down to someone in the office sneezing making a "Genshin"-like sound and thinking "hey, that sounded like a cool name for a game"
Simple. They literally took the "impact" out of the already mistranslated name of "honkai impact" and pluged it into the name of the name "genshin". Fun fact, Honkai Impact's name is actually "Honkai 3rd". And yes, the whole reason that japanese pronounciation is pretty obvious, just see how many VAs can't pronounce Liyue names, and you would understand. Japanese pronounciation can be transcripted into romanji, which is latin based (some what) while Chinese transcripts into pinyin which is much further from latin, making it harder to speak for English speakers.
Why is it called Genshin Impact rather than by it's Chinese name? 1. MHY are weebs 2. Western audiences are more familiar with Japanese media compared to Chinese 3. Sidestepping anti-Chinese connotations. Ties in with 2, as many uninformed consumers would see the game and just assume it's Japanese. Hell, even now there are people that are ignorant enough to not really understand there's a difference between the 2 cultures and would probably just lump all of East Asia together. I suppose they probably wouldn't play a game like this though. 4. "Allogene Impact" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. 5. For that matter, for most Westerners neither does Yuanshen.
I think someone in the game mentions that Paimon looks like an elf, which might be a clever nod to Honkai's Eqipment Living Forms, better known as ELFs.
Correction about the words honkai and impact in HI3, this might help understanding "genshin impact" meaning TLDR: Honkai : natural force that want our death Honkai Impact : Hersherr apparition with the Honkai doing a huge mess and a lot of death Herrschers and Archons are somewhat similar, both are godlike beings The honkai is a force inherent to our world that "wants" to destroy humanity, it grows stronger as our technology evolve. To destroy us, the honkai has created multiple natural catastropies and plagues during the history of the world. It can also create honkai beast and Herrschers, deadly beings with powers that transcends physical laws. A Honkai Impact corresponds to the apparition of one of those, accompanied with a lot of honkai beast and very high levels of honkai energy (that can transform humans into honkai beast and honkai zombies), the impacts makes a lot of death, wiping out a city or usually way more than that. As you know the game is titled Honkai Impact 3rd, third because the story of the game starts just after the 3rd impact. To summarize : read the TLDR. Maybe it helps understanding those terms better. I doubt the word impact means something similar in genshin but knowing miHoYo... this wouldn't be surprising at all. But what I'm certain of : genshin impact is a mihoyo game, prepare yourselves to suffer, the game's story just began If your interested enough you can watch "Introducing the Honkai-verse" from honkai impact 3rd official channel, its more detailed than i am and i also know it's more accurate since I'm writing what i remember and i may not have a good memory (Sorry if my english is bad, hope it's not, its not my native language)
i feel like they chose the japanese pronounciation because mihoyo are just a bunch of weebs like its literally under their logo "tech otakus save the world"
I actually think the “Impact” in their games is a commemoration for Neon Genesis Evangelion’s “Third Impact” or so. The Mihoyo founders themselves confirmed in an interview with Apple that the whole thing that inspired them into entering gaming industry is NGE itself as they are massive Evangelion fans, and being young men highly interested in anime and driven by their favorite mecha show, they followed their dream. I remember Apple featuring the said interview in the App Store when Genshin Impact became popular. Kiana, the first character they made, is the protagonist of the first game they made named “FlyMe2TheMoon”. It is obviously based on, again, Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Impact is most likely influenced with Evangelion, where Honkai, as for the devs, are influenced by Eva. Impact means like a time of disaster or an epoch of chaos.
Im pretty sure the reason why they use the Japanese pronounced is because mihoyo is a Chinese company that wanted to make anime type games. Hence the slogan “ tech otaku save the world”
Genshin is easier for international audience to pronounce, or at least pronounce somewhat accurately compare to YuanShen（原神）... Which if you think about it, Huawei actually did similar naming for their SoC, the Kirin（麒麟） Processor, the actual Chinese pronounciation should be QiLin（麒麟）. Kirin would be the Japanese pronounciation of the word... since Huawei isn't really related to anime or specifically have special relation with Japan, it could be that they just want the international name been easier to pronounce, since again, Kirin is easier to pronounce accurately compare to QiLin. But in terms of Mihoyo, it could be that they just wanna use the Japanese pronounciation since the company is heavily influenced by the Japanese animations.
Me as a Chinese player Before watching this video: what? Why you need a video to talk about the meaning of the word "genshin"?? I thought Venti already mentioned that from main storyline. After watching this video: Allogenes??? WTF is that? MHY are you sure this word should be used for English version???
Soooooo... Who is the original God ? Paimon ? Aether/Lumine ? The sustainer ? Crossbow Hilichurch #372 ? Edit : oooooooooooh, as you can use every elements, you give other characters the impression to be the #1 god ?
I think they went with the Japanese pronounciation because Chinese is harder to pronounce and also because it is probably the most bullied language in existence. Just look at how people treat the characters' names. No one makes fun of Barbara, Amber, Lisa, Diona etc for their names. Compare that to xiangling, xingqiu or chongyun
The "Impact" is a million percent an evangelion reference, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of it being a literal event within the games world, and that's not even mentioning honkai x genshin connection theories
@@thorsal6208 Honkai also use the word "eruption", the third eruption was Mei, first being Joyce and second being Sirin. I guess impact is just another way to say it.
they chose the jp pronunciation simply because the cn pronunciation is too hard for most people. I know mihoyo is a weeb company, but it doesn't mean they are crazy to japanese. tbh "they use jp name because they are weebs" is quite rude. if you guys can easily pronounce chinese then ofc they would choose the chinese name.
a shame that we lose the "impact" of venti's title drop thanks to translation weirdness. would have actually been a memorable moment instead of something that gets mentioned once and never again (at least for now)
So the big reason i dont understand the difference between an "archon" and a "god" was just because of translation issues. Glad to know there was a reason i was confused at times
I think impact refers to the fact that all these games deal with a previous civilization that got wiped out. It's also possible that we will get a cataclysmic event in genshin that is similar to the houkai outbreak
It probably means Impact as in the fall of an object, resulting in an impact on the ground. Genshin meaning "Original God" only furthers the meaning as "The fall of the original god"
Actually for honkai it has impact in the title because one of the main driving factors for the story is the honkai eruption which is sometimes referred as the honkai impact. The third refers to either it happening 3 times or then trying to prevent the third I can’t remember the specific
Genshin is actually said one time by Venti in the epilogue of the first story Arc (under the tree). I think it was used to refer to vision holders in the context of the fact that they could ascend to godhood. The English term for Genshin was allogenes.
Here’s another theory for “impact”: the traveler and all characters (the Genshin) we wish for fall from the sky , similar to a meteor. Meteor -> impact.
For impact part The CEO of mihoyo is big fan of evengelion anime And they even make honkai based on evengelion I think they just took impact word From second impact,third impact etc that used in evengelion
all og Genshin Impact seems to get its ideas from Gnosticism. Once you dig down the rabbit hole you find so much that you see back in the game. Hypostasis, Gnosis, Gnostisism, Allogenes, Archon (yep, even Archon's are in it, and they arent the highest form of being) The theory of Genshin and Chinese Chess also holds up with all of this and even makes that theory stronger. Yes, I went down the rabbit hole + multiple videos + more research on my own for days. (there is way too much to write down in 1 comment)
In the case of honkai impact, the plot is directly influanced by Neon Genesis Evangelion, particularly where recurring events of mass alien invasions trying to destroy humanity are reffered to as 1st, 2nd and 3rd impact. In just the same way, in honkai impact 3rd, the plot is about the event of alien forces "honkai" ariseing anew and setting out to destroy all civilization, hence honkai impact.
From my experience in the game, people with Visions are called Genshin, Primordial Gods If you connect the words you can get "The Impact of Primordial Gods" This can be either our story as the player, or the story about people with visions (in which it probably includes the player, even without a Vision) It's just my interpretation tho
as a chinese player i was surprised to find out they tacked on the word "impact" on the english title. although....... if it can be left out, maybe it really don't have a very important meaning. Also I wonder why the whole allogene idea seems to have never been explored thus far again.
Impact just havent happened in Genshin yet . In Honkai the Third Impact happened on chapter 8 in story and it was a Year and half after the game released.
i was wondering lol, it seems weird i think the impact is to make it sound cool. or like "hey, this is an impactful game! new and cool and open-world" or something
About Honkai Impact 3: The impact in the name (as well as the 3) is born as a Evangelion reference and it's 3rd impact, in the last update HI3 got a collab with eva, a longlife Mihoyo's dream, and Dawei (Mihoyo's CEO) kind of confirmed that in a interview you can find in HI3 official youtube channel. Then they tied the name to the catastrophic events you mentioned, the honkai impacts. While the lore is much more wide and revolves around every form of honkai, the plot of Honkai Impact 3 hugely develops around the (guess what?) 3rd honkai impact. About genshin impact I don't know anything more than you but like the other fans of both impacts games I'm only waiting for shit to happens. In HI3 the impact only seems a random word in the title but the honkai impacts actually are catastrophic events shaping the history of the world. I have two feelings about the impact in genshin impact: 1 - it has yet to happen and when it will, shit will hit the fan; 2 - it's what happened when Lumine had her journey in Teyvat, 500 years before Aether. And nothing excludes the possibility of both happening at the same time, so each twin will have experimented it's very own genshin impact. The part about the genshin -original god-, for what I know right now, can only make me think about the nameless god we met at the beginning (and others like her?) and exclude the archons, only venered like gods.
About the Impact title in the Genshin/Honkai, there could be a unlikely, but nevertheless plausible explaination: Neon Genesis Evangelion It is related to the video's second explanations for it, catastrophic events. Now then, forgive me if I have made mistakes, as I never fully experienced Evangelion anime. But from what I can gather from online sources, the "Impacts" in Evangelion anime are all impactful or significant events with catastrophic consequences. One thing Evangelion is known for is its biblical characteristic. As both Honkai and Genshin have biblically influenced plots as well, it could be perhaps Mihoyo founders simply want to have a throwback to one of Japan's most influential monument in their anime industry?
A bit late but here's probably the most accurate explanation to the "impact" part of the name: Why is "impact" used in genshin? because they what to use their brand as the company that made Honkai. But then why is it in Honkai? Because Honkai is largely inspired by Evangelion. They actually had an EVA event just a while back. "Honkai", meaning "the collapse", is a catastrophe in the game, a reference to the "impact" in EVA. To help the western audience make sense of the word "Honkai" they added the impact part. So the name should really be "Honkai (impact)". The impact part is missing from the Chinese and Japanese name because naturally it is not needed.
Also CEO of Mihoyo is a big fan of Evangelion which makes the game title more trivial - Genshin - is a mix of either Gendo or Genesis, Shin comes from Shinji and Impact from 2nd Impact XD. Don't have to mention Selee, right? Although I like your theory better.
I saw on a video that they made it Genshin to attract more players. Nowadays the stereotype “made in China” is often seen as bad or low quality, if they called it YuanShen Impact people would just think “oh it’s a Chinese game, nvm” It’s also because people keep butchering Chinese words
Easy, marketing, weebs wont bat an eye if some game was promoted as Yuanshen - they need something that sounds cool to them like Japanese. Similar to Tiktok, which is called Douyin in Chinese and DJI which name was chosen to sound not Chinese, so they don't get prejudiced. Ask yourself, if a game suddenly come knocking an its call Heishenhua, would you be curious to check it out?
Just gonna add real quick that they likely went with the Japanese pronunciation and not the Chinese due to the fact that the studio is full of weebs. One look at their official name art, which btw you had up near the start of the video, and you'll see under the name, "miHoYo" you can see it says, "Tech Otakus Save The World". So the answer is just that simple, they just love Japanese culture despite being a Chinese studio. Hence why Honkai and Genshin not only both use the Japanese Kanji pronunciation but also why both games mimic the Japanese Anime art style. Its definitely no coincidence.
I know you're more familiar with Japanese, but I think you should make it more clear that the name "Genshin" is taken from the Japanese "pronunciation", not the Japanese language. 原神 is from the Chinese language, not Japanese. The only reason they used "Genshin" for English is purely for marketing purposes because you can't expect Westerners to pronounce "Yuan Shen". That'll be the same as all English voice actors being unable to pronounce "Liyue". Also, appeal-wise, "Yuan Shen" is less appealing than "Genshin". I know you explain it is not "necessarily" Japanese but a combination of Kanji, but you still make it sounds like it's a word that exists in Japanese and not Chinese by calling it kanji since only Japanese Chinese characters are called Kanji. Chinese words are just called Chinese characters. While kanji is taken from Chinese characters, many of the kanji's meaning has changed and are used differently than they are in Chinese. While in Japanese 原神 is the combination of words, 原神 is not a combination of words in Chinese, but an actual word.
I think the "impact" is because of them being in the same universe because the new games they announces (Honkai: Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero) both don't have "impact" in it
Genshin its actually an original word in the game. It means "people who are qualified to be gods", so in my conception the game shows the impact of the "traveller" as being qualified to be a god, or something close to this.
I think Genshin impact has Impact added to the name because in the west it's easy to make an association to Honkai Impact and the company that way. In resume, it's a subtle way to mark it as a product made by Mihoyo. After Genshin, if a new game comes with the word Impact I know there will people questioning if it's made by the same company that made Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact.
About the reason why they went for Genshin, the Japanese word. I actually saw another video talking about it shortly, in that video they said it was bevause of how the Chinese market kinda wanna strays way from being known as Chinese, since globally "made in china" is often referred to as something bad due to their knock off and cheap stuff. Something along those lines at least The video im talking about was about the Chinese animation industry. Just wanted to leave this comment cause it was san interesting though behind the reason of choosing the Japanese name in my opinion c:
I am inclined to go with your theory that they added “Impact” to the English title just because it sounds like a cool action game title.
Well, since the original title would be proto-god impact, most of the story talks about the impact that the archon war, (the war of the gods), left on the world of tyvet. So technically the title is the sub plot of the story.
or they just want to make it look like it has connection with honkai "impact"
@@deanxile fun fact: *it does*
@@Azusa_segs or maybe it’s Genshin Influence
Impact is from Honkai Impact, which got taken from the "third impact" from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Since celestia is seen falling right now with every update
Impact could just legit mean a large impact of land mass is coming straight for us lmao
so basically the land of gods is falling on the teyvat
Wait, what?!
@@rishavsinha3028 yeah it’s so weird but cool
So like an in-story event like Honkai
Wait it's falling?
they picked the japanese spelling simply because the original founders of mihoyo are gigantic weebs. im not insulting them, im not joking, im just stating facts. mihoyo's tagline thing is "tech otakus save the world". actually really cute ngl.
They said that in the "about Mhy" tab
@@wow_tilin oh i didnt notice ty
True lmao
And in retrospect, the tagline is indeed cute
Tech otakus save the world lmao.
More like greedy corporation wants your wallet
From my interpretation, it means Wallet impact as it has a huge impact on the thickness of my wallet. It is said that as the hype for the new 5* star character increases, the thinner my wallet becomes.
Speaking from my experience, it is undeniably true. Rip 💸💸.
Good thing i don't pay to make wishes :P I still didn't get Xiao ofc
Once you spend money you can’t stop like a drug, I’ve abstained myself and only bought the blessing of Welkin moon
@@xyrex1637 samee
Can also be called slavery impact since every npc there is lazy as fuck and we have to do all their fucking work.
Tech otakus take your money
Makes sense why the logo looks more like
GenShin I M P A C T
it looks more like GenShiN
@@0xVENx0ohhhh It does actually, so the real question is what is the G.S.N 🤔🤔🤔
@lol ꞏ 12 years ago 😴😴😴
2 reasons why the title is jp:
1. The company is literally inspired by jp games.
2. You guys keep massacring chinese pronounciation, we ain't trusting you with dat.
Lmao just like lot of people got a hard time spelling keqing and xinqiu
@@enma9359 im chinese and ive misspelled keqing as kequing, and pronounced her name as keh-king ToT
@@annabethmoo1213 pleeease 😭 ✋ I mispronounced xinquo(fancy water twink cause I'm not sure I wrote it write) as 'kinky'
Chinese pronunciations make no sense to most people so it’s not that uncommon to see
@@enma9359 And the wrong pronounciation sticks. People still call keqing "Kay-Qing"
I mean, MiHoYo are tech otakus, so I’d say that’s the reason they went for Japanese pronunciation.
Literally what I was thinking too
it just easier to market, the same is with adding "impact", impact does not exist in the chinese, korean or japanese version of the title...
The whole Mihoyo's company culture originated from Japan, their products are a reflection of Japanese culture, just in China. I mean if a Chinese person open up an Italian restaurant with authentic food, I think he would give it an Italian name
actually the motive they use japonese is because most of the company are weebs
yeah. their slogan is literally "tech otakus save the world"
@@chorbles Plot twist: What if their slogan actually refers to Kiana and Bronya (A.k.a. Two high-tech Otaku girls fighting the Honkai to save the world)?
I find it very interesting that the Western world got the Japanese pronunciation probably because of negative connotation with Chinese products in general.
Not just product but with china in general
What, i pronounce it the way i heard most people say it, now i hate china? Lmao
Or more because MiHoYo are "tech otakus" they're weebs, what did you expect
to add salt to the injury, some people actually went on and give the japanese credit for the creation of genshin, sure it is inspired by them but it is still made by the chinese
as a chinese, it hurts
@@gatto3030 I never mind it. I think anime is international now.
So basically when we are ascending characters, we’re actually getting them closer to godhood. Okay cool
Edit: This is the most liked comment I have lmao. I never thought ppl would actually see this 😂
Zhongli: 💃🏻💃🏻
Venti: 🎠🎠🎠
All the other playable archons that haven't showed up yet : 🤹♂️🤹♂️🤹♂️
Bennett: 🤸🤸🤸
Fischl: 🧚🏻♀️🧚🏻♀️
In the Chinese version, Venti use 原神(Genshin) instead Allogene, so Allogene=Genshin=people who have chance to turn into element Gods.
imagine in the future Qiqi is a Cryo god
In Japanese too
it's also a possibility they took an inspiration from Gnosticism, a religious movement with terminology i recognise alot in the game's story. In particular the fact that in late gnostic writings there are mentions of 7 archons.
just like how there are 7 archons in Genshin Impact each owning a gnosis
There's definitely a massive amount of gnostic themes and concepts being used in Genshin Impact. Highly recommend Nag-Hammadi Library for further reading.
My theory is that genshin impact actually means "gigantic shin impact" and is considered a severe i injury of the leg region.
(this is a joke btw)
finally someone gets it
This is no joke, this is fact
You've tried your best.
Here's my theory about it. Genshin when I researched about it is roughly translating to "Primordial Gods" or ancient gods (just like the gods of celestia before the archon war). Just like what you speculated, in Honkai there's a catastrophic event that happens whenever Humanity's technologies reach a certain degree which will led to a Honkai Impact that will destroy this 'humanity's technology' and never to get back up from it. On the other hand, I believe that Genshin Impact means "The descent of the gods" or the "The impact that brought by the gods" just like what you said. If you remember correctly, 500 years ago is when something like this happened in Teyvat, the kingdom of Khaenri'ah (where Kaeya and Dainesleif(?) came from) is said to have the power and technology to go against the gods at that time, and 500 years ago too is the time when we met the unknown god at the start because we saw in onoe of the trailer what happened to Lumine after being sent to Teyvat. She saw destruction everywhere even in spiral abyss (prob the once territory of the khaenri'ah, after all there's also the theory that the abyss order are once people of the said lost kingdom that got turned into "dregs" just like what Dainsleif said while the rest are chosen "him and kaeya, prob others too) Back to the topic, 500 years ago is when the lost kingdom destroyed, also the time we met the unknown god and separated from our sister which is also the time the unknown god appeared and said "the arrogance of mankind must end now" or something along those lines, prob referring to the khaenri'ah's "dream yet to be dreamed" of taking over celestia and become gods themselves, which when the unknown god is sent out to 'descent' to teyvat and destroy humanity we coincidentally met them while travelling, hence the the first encounter in our 'journe'.
Long story short, Genshin Impact might be referring to the catastrophe when the gods descended to Teyvat to destroy humanity that has the potential to go against the said gods. Anyways, nice vid!
This is a really good theory nice one.
I got one but idk but the descent of gods could also means when the gods are losing the gnosis?
@@nautuangpu you meant Venti and Zhongli's? But from what I speculated, Venti is forced to give his Gnosis to Signor because he can't fight back at that time for his power might affect the mortals living in mondstadt, on the other hand Zhongli might also be on the side of the Tsaritsa secretly (if you don't know the Tsaritsa might not be our enemy, because in the trailer she is said to be a rebel to the divine unlike the Hydro Archon who is afraid out of the divine). Zhongli might be quite angry to the ancient gods because if not for the archon war that they initiated, Guizhong his former 'friend' might not die or got corrupted during the war, and for him to be forced to watch his 'friend' turned into dust and nothingness in front of him. He might not be going against the ancient gods upfront, but he can help the Tsaritsa in some ways, hence the secret bargaining chip the Tsaritsa gave in exchange of his Gnosis in the last contract. This is just like 2 birds in one stone for Zhongli, one he can get his revenge, two he can have an excuse to become a mortal and abandoned his power so that he can understand the mortals and finally opened the Memory of Dust which Guizhong left to him... In the end, giving the Gnosis to the Tsaritsa might be the best way to defeat the ancient/unknown gods as to their knowledge.
@@LongXue yea I mean it's her plan to take all the gnosis so I guess in a way it's their descent into realm of humans
@@nautuangpu wait, you mean whose taking the Gnosis? if it's the Unknown Goddess then I don't have any information of her gathering the Gnosis, when in fact every gods have Gnosis inside them, on the other hand if you're talking about the Tsaritsa, then the gathering of Gnosis is understandable, but the 'descent' on her part isn't really a thing, because all the Archons are in Teyvat and not in Celestia. So there's no point in descending when you are already in the continent itself.
Genshin is the Japanese/Mandarin name of Allogenes, which are Vision wielders, aka the gacha characters you roll for. So the true Genshin Impact was literally the friends we made along the way.
Look at Mihoyo's other game, Honkai Impact, and how the Honkai is actually something, I feel that the name does have a hidden meaning.
Genshin -> Original God.
Perhaps the influence of the Original God on the world? There has also been some curiosity towards the Unknown God that looks like Kiana Kaslana 🤔
"What does genshin impact actually means?"
Bank account in the negatives
I'm pretty confident that "impact" is a reference to Evanghelion seeing how much the team at mihoyo was influenced by it from the name of their first game, fly me to the moon to honkai 3rd's story with the honkai wars kinda mirroring the angel impacts and characters filling similar roles and archetypes like Bronya with Rei
Honkai 3rd is literally called Honkai IMPACT 3rd
It's not their first game. Their first game was quite unpopular and got shut down very soon. Then they make ggz and gain success. After that HI3 come out which was consider an alternate story for ggz because they reuse some characters and plot
@@dieptrieu6564 when I said their first game I was referring to "fly me to the moon" the one that you're talking about, the one that got shut down (which i mentioned btw)
@Ayumi Yuri It was a long time planning too. Remember the robot wotan that was always 95% finish in the schicksal open world map
@@dieptrieu6564 yeah, that Wotan. No wonder,it always stuck at 95/99% before. LMAO
The "Genshin Impact" is the Traveler hitting the ground in the prologue. This was not hard.
So that's the impact part? What about genshin?
@@athenam4724 They put the word "Impact" in title is because of the boss of Mihoyo is EVA fan, they admitted this.
The weird part is, WHAT IS PAIMON??? Shes just here for some reason, and floats but doesn't have a vision??? What is she???
True, paimon is so out of place! I thought it would make more sense that she is the one travel along with the traveller world to world and guide them in those worlds. But she just came out of nowhere in the middle of teyvat, floating around, and the most similar to other people she could be is with dainleif with that galaxy cape....
@@cuu899 probably just mihoyo pushing their mascot into games they made.
But knowing Mihoyo and their tendency to subvert everything, she probably will become the final boss or sth.
I think Paimons a celestial being but that's only because of how she floats and her clothes. If she was a celestial being then the question would be why she came to the traveller.
Why its pronounced in its japanese reading? Simple. Mihoyo's just full of weaboo otakus.
and the fact that western audience have bad sentiment towards chinese MMO and china, using japanese name and pushing the english and japanese dub as their features would make people think it's japanese game.
The "impact" in both genshin and honkai are because the ceo dawei is a huge fan of Evangelion, and thats why honkai impact is named honkai impact. I think they just wanted to keep the same trend with genshin too
Danm we got jojo references and adult jokes now evangelion references
I think "impact" in Honkai refers to the Honkai impacts that happen in its story (the 3rd being the present one there), but I don't have a clue as to what it means to Genshin, but maybe it means the impact the unknown god(dess) made in the world 500 years ago
Never thought of it but glad to know.
Thanks for the video
0:58 nah It's simply because Wei is a weeb
About the japanese name on a chinese game, I'm pretty sure it's due to the fact that mihoyo are die-hard otakus, pretty obvious from all the anime references throughout their games and the "tech otakus save the world" in their company logo.
I find it very interesting to dig deep into these types of things, but it's also funny to think that it could've also all just boiled down to someone in the office sneezing making a "Genshin"-like sound and thinking "hey, that sounded like a cool name for a game"
Lmao
1:06 Or C, because the developers are otaku through and through. It's literally in their slogan lol.
Simple. They literally took the "impact" out of the already mistranslated name of "honkai impact" and pluged it into the name of the name "genshin".
Fun fact, Honkai Impact's name is actually "Honkai 3rd".
And yes, the whole reason that japanese pronounciation is pretty obvious, just see how many VAs can't pronounce Liyue names, and you would understand. Japanese pronounciation can be transcripted into romanji, which is latin based (some what) while Chinese transcripts into pinyin which is much further from latin, making it harder to speak for English speakers.
Here's the real name: Pain impact!
If we're talking Honkai, yes. Heart pain to be more specific.
Why is it called Genshin Impact rather than by it's Chinese name?
1. MHY are weebs
2. Western audiences are more familiar with Japanese media compared to Chinese
3. Sidestepping anti-Chinese connotations. Ties in with 2, as many uninformed consumers would see the game and just assume it's Japanese. Hell, even now there are people that are ignorant enough to not really understand there's a difference between the 2 cultures and would probably just lump all of East Asia together. I suppose they probably wouldn't play a game like this though.
4. "Allogene Impact" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
5. For that matter, for most Westerners neither does Yuanshen.
I still don't know what species Paimon is. And everyone seems to not surprised seeing her.
I think someone in the game mentions that Paimon looks like an elf, which might be a clever nod to Honkai's Eqipment Living Forms, better known as ELFs.
Correction about the words honkai and impact in HI3, this might help understanding "genshin impact" meaning
TLDR:
Honkai : natural force that want our death
Honkai Impact : Hersherr apparition with the Honkai doing a huge mess and a lot of death
Herrschers and Archons are somewhat similar, both are godlike beings
The honkai is a force inherent to our world that "wants" to destroy humanity, it grows stronger as our technology evolve.
To destroy us, the honkai has created multiple natural catastropies and plagues during the history of the world. It can also create honkai beast and Herrschers, deadly beings with powers that transcends physical laws. A Honkai Impact corresponds to the apparition of one of those, accompanied with a lot of honkai beast and very high levels of honkai energy (that can transform humans into honkai beast and honkai zombies), the impacts makes a lot of death, wiping out a city or usually way more than that. As you know the game is titled Honkai Impact 3rd, third because the story of the game starts just after the 3rd impact.
To summarize : read the TLDR.
Maybe it helps understanding those terms better. I doubt the word impact means something similar in genshin but knowing miHoYo... this wouldn't be surprising at all. But what I'm certain of : genshin impact is a mihoyo game, prepare yourselves to suffer, the game's story just began
If your interested enough you can watch "Introducing the Honkai-verse" from honkai impact 3rd official channel, its more detailed than i am and i also know it's more accurate since I'm writing what i remember and i may not have a good memory
(Sorry if my english is bad, hope it's not, its not my native language)
i feel like they chose the japanese pronounciation because mihoyo are just a bunch of weebs like its literally under their logo "tech otakus save the world"
I actually think the “Impact” in their games is a commemoration for Neon Genesis Evangelion’s “Third Impact” or so. The Mihoyo founders themselves confirmed in an interview with Apple that the whole thing that inspired them into entering gaming industry is NGE itself as they are massive Evangelion fans, and being young men highly interested in anime and driven by their favorite mecha show, they followed their dream. I remember Apple featuring the said interview in the App Store when Genshin Impact became popular.
Kiana, the first character they made, is the protagonist of the first game they made named “FlyMe2TheMoon”. It is obviously based on, again, Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Impact is most likely influenced with Evangelion, where Honkai, as for the devs, are influenced by Eva. Impact means like a time of disaster or an epoch of chaos.
Maybe impact could refer to the Gacha System, where characters drop from the skies as meteors?
Im pretty sure the reason why they use the Japanese pronounced is because mihoyo is a Chinese company that wanted to make anime type games. Hence the slogan “ tech otaku save the world”
Genshin is easier for international audience to pronounce, or at least pronounce somewhat accurately compare to YuanShen（原神）...
Which if you think about it, Huawei actually did similar naming for their SoC, the Kirin（麒麟） Processor, the actual Chinese pronounciation should be QiLin（麒麟）.
Kirin would be the Japanese pronounciation of the word... since Huawei isn't really related to anime or specifically have special relation with Japan, it could be that they just want the international name been easier to pronounce, since again, Kirin is easier to pronounce accurately compare to QiLin.
But in terms of Mihoyo, it could be that they just wanna use the Japanese pronounciation since the company is heavily influenced by the Japanese animations.
good stuff - if you plan on making more theme/lore based content, i'll make sure to watch
My sister calls Genshin impact “keyboard impact” because of me smashing the keys on the keyboard as I play....could that be what “impact” means...?
LOL
as long as the 3rd game Mihoyo makes has something something 'impact' in the title, I'll be happy.
Honkai Impact 4 : Galaxies. HI3 sequel. miHoYo already copyrighted the title of their next game.
You mean, turn us all into TANG.
Me as a Chinese player
Before watching this video: what? Why you need a video to talk about the meaning of the word "genshin"?? I thought Venti already mentioned that from main storyline.
After watching this video: Allogenes??? WTF is that? MHY are you sure this word should be used for English version???
Soooooo...
Who is the original God ?
Paimon ?
Aether/Lumine ?
The sustainer ?
Crossbow Hilichurch #372 ?
Edit : oooooooooooh, as you can use every elements, you give other characters the impression to be the #1 god ?
I think they went with the Japanese pronounciation because Chinese is harder to pronounce and also because it is probably the most bullied language in existence. Just look at how people treat the characters' names.
No one makes fun of Barbara, Amber, Lisa, Diona etc for their names. Compare that to xiangling, xingqiu or chongyun
Impact could also refer to the impression a vision wielder has on the world of Teyvet. Genshin = Allogene (vision wielder) Impact.
The "Impact" is a million percent an evangelion reference, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of it being a literal event within the games world, and that's not even mentioning honkai x genshin connection theories
Well... miHoYo's CEO is a bonafide otaku...
Do any of u know about second impact or third impact??
Reference from evangelion
I think the word impact is similar to Evangelion impact.
Well, the developers are a big fan of Eva, so maybe lol
@@thorsal6208 Honkai also use the word "eruption", the third eruption was Mei, first being Joyce and second being Sirin. I guess impact is just another way to say it.
That actually is it
they chose the jp pronunciation simply because the cn pronunciation is too hard for most people. I know mihoyo is a weeb company, but it doesn't mean they are crazy to japanese. tbh "they use jp name because they are weebs" is quite rude.
if you guys can easily pronounce chinese then ofc they would choose the chinese name.
They put the word "Impact" in title is because of the boss of Mihoyo is EVA fan, they admitted this.
a shame that we lose the "impact" of venti's title drop thanks to translation weirdness. would have actually been a memorable moment instead of something that gets mentioned once and never again (at least for now)
So the big reason i dont understand the difference between an "archon" and a "god" was just because of translation issues. Glad to know there was a reason i was confused at times
Me: *I, will ask kindly again, who, is Genshin, and how did it Impact you?*
I think impact refers to the fact that all these games deal with a previous civilization that got wiped out. It's also possible that we will get a cataclysmic event in genshin that is similar to the houkai outbreak
the fact they are demon gods is not technically lost because they’re named after demons from the Ars Goethia anyway
I believe the literal Chinese translation of Genshin Impact is the awakening of the original god.
In Chinese it’s original god/mystical creature
It probably means Impact as in the fall of an object, resulting in an impact on the ground.
Genshin meaning "Original God" only furthers the meaning as "The fall of the original god"
Actually for honkai it has impact in the title because one of the main driving factors for the story is the honkai eruption which is sometimes referred as the honkai impact. The third refers to either it happening 3 times or then trying to prevent the third I can’t remember the specific
After asking my cousin if he knew what Genshin Impact was, he replied 'the money hole'.
that explains the download url is "yuanshen"
Is it?
@@ulijibkadelm318 it is
i mean
autopatchk.yuanshen (as i remember)
Genshin is actually said one time by Venti in the epilogue of the first story Arc (under the tree). I think it was used to refer to vision holders in the context of the fact that they could ascend to godhood. The English term for Genshin was allogenes.
Here’s another theory for “impact”: the traveler and all characters (the Genshin) we wish for fall from the sky , similar to a meteor. Meteor -> impact.
They put the word "Impact" in title is because of the boss of Mihoyo is EVA fan, they admitted this.
For impact part
The CEO of mihoyo is big fan of evengelion anime
And they even make honkai based on evengelion
I think they just took impact word
From second impact,third impact etc
that used in evengelion
all og Genshin Impact seems to get its ideas from Gnosticism.
Once you dig down the rabbit hole you find so much that you see back in the game.
Hypostasis, Gnosis, Gnostisism, Allogenes, Archon (yep, even Archon's are in it, and they arent the highest form of being)
The theory of Genshin and Chinese Chess also holds up with all of this and even makes that theory stronger.
Yes, I went down the rabbit hole + multiple videos + more research on my own for days.
(there is way too much to write down in 1 comment)
In the case of honkai impact, the plot is directly influanced by Neon Genesis Evangelion, particularly where recurring events of mass alien invasions trying to destroy humanity are reffered to as 1st, 2nd and 3rd impact. In just the same way, in honkai impact 3rd, the plot is about the event of alien forces "honkai" ariseing anew and setting out to destroy all civilization, hence honkai impact.
From my experience in the game, people with Visions are called Genshin, Primordial Gods
If you connect the words you can get "The Impact of Primordial Gods"
This can be either our story as the player, or the story about people with visions (in which it probably includes the player, even without a Vision)
It's just my interpretation tho
as a chinese player i was surprised to find out they tacked on the word "impact" on the english title. although....... if it can be left out, maybe it really don't have a very important meaning. Also I wonder why the whole allogene idea seems to have never been explored thus far again.
Yo this was nice, just take my sub right now.
They use japanese for all region is simply because genshin impact itself is an "anime" game and mihoyo dev team is full of otaku
Wallet impact
Impact just havent happened in Genshin yet . In Honkai the Third Impact happened on chapter 8 in story and it was a Year and half after the game released.
i was wondering lol, it seems weird
i think the impact is to make it sound cool. or like "hey, this is an impactful game! new and cool and open-world" or something
I'm pretty sure the "Impact" in Honkai Impact 3rd was supposed to be an Evangelion reference considering how much that game references Evangelion
About Honkai Impact 3:
The impact in the name (as well as the 3) is born as a Evangelion reference and it's 3rd impact, in the last update HI3 got a collab with eva, a longlife Mihoyo's dream, and Dawei (Mihoyo's CEO) kind of confirmed that in a interview you can find in HI3 official youtube channel. Then they tied the name to the catastrophic events you mentioned, the honkai impacts.
While the lore is much more wide and revolves around every form of honkai, the plot of Honkai Impact 3 hugely develops around the (guess what?) 3rd honkai impact.
About genshin impact I don't know anything more than you but like the other fans of both impacts games I'm only waiting for shit to happens. In HI3 the impact only seems a random word in the title but the honkai impacts actually are catastrophic events shaping the history of the world.
I have two feelings about the impact in genshin impact:
1 - it has yet to happen and when it will, shit will hit the fan;
2 - it's what happened when Lumine had her journey in Teyvat, 500 years before Aether.
And nothing excludes the possibility of both happening at the same time, so each twin will have experimented it's very own genshin impact.
The part about the genshin -original god-, for what I know right now, can only make me think about the nameless god we met at the beginning (and others like her?) and exclude the archons, only venered like gods.
Thank you for this video. I am starting to learn Japanese and this helped me a lot :) I am playing Genshin from its very beggining :)
About the Impact title in the Genshin/Honkai, there could be a unlikely, but nevertheless plausible explaination:
Neon Genesis Evangelion
It is related to the video's second explanations for it, catastrophic events. Now then, forgive me if I have made mistakes, as I never fully experienced Evangelion anime. But from what I can gather from online sources, the "Impacts" in Evangelion anime are all impactful or significant events with catastrophic consequences. One thing Evangelion is known for is its biblical characteristic. As both Honkai and Genshin have biblically influenced plots as well, it could be perhaps Mihoyo founders simply want to have a throwback to one of Japan's most influential monument in their anime industry?
A bit late but here's probably the most accurate explanation to the "impact" part of the name:
Why is "impact" used in genshin? because they what to use their brand as the company that made Honkai.
But then why is it in Honkai? Because Honkai is largely inspired by Evangelion. They actually had an EVA event just a while back. "Honkai", meaning "the collapse", is a catastrophe in the game, a reference to the "impact" in EVA. To help the western audience make sense of the word "Honkai" they added the impact part. So the name should really be "Honkai (impact)".
The impact part is missing from the Chinese and Japanese name because naturally it is not needed.
Also CEO of Mihoyo is a big fan of Evangelion which makes the game title more trivial - Genshin - is a mix of either Gendo or Genesis, Shin comes from Shinji and Impact from 2nd Impact XD. Don't have to mention Selee, right? Although I like your theory better.
I saw on a video that they made it Genshin to attract more players. Nowadays the stereotype “made in China” is often seen as bad or low quality, if they called it YuanShen Impact people would just think “oh it’s a Chinese game, nvm”
It’s also because people keep butchering Chinese words
Easy, marketing, weebs wont bat an eye if some game was promoted as Yuanshen - they need something that sounds cool to them like Japanese. Similar to Tiktok, which is called Douyin in Chinese and DJI which name was chosen to sound not Chinese, so they don't get prejudiced. Ask yourself, if a game suddenly come knocking an its call Heishenhua, would you be curious to check it out?
So it's something like part-gods battles or part-gods lives 🧐
Just gonna add real quick that they likely went with the Japanese pronunciation and not the Chinese due to the fact that the studio is full of weebs. One look at their official name art, which btw you had up near the start of the video, and you'll see under the name, "miHoYo" you can see it says, "Tech Otakus Save The World".
So the answer is just that simple, they just love Japanese culture despite being a Chinese studio. Hence why Honkai and Genshin not only both use the Japanese Kanji pronunciation but also why both games mimic the Japanese Anime art style. Its definitely no coincidence.
I know you're more familiar with Japanese, but I think you should make it more clear that the name "Genshin" is taken from the Japanese "pronunciation", not the Japanese language. 原神 is from the Chinese language, not Japanese. The only reason they used "Genshin" for English is purely for marketing purposes because you can't expect Westerners to pronounce "Yuan Shen". That'll be the same as all English voice actors being unable to pronounce "Liyue". Also, appeal-wise, "Yuan Shen" is less appealing than "Genshin". I know you explain it is not "necessarily" Japanese but a combination of Kanji, but you still make it sounds like it's a word that exists in Japanese and not Chinese by calling it kanji since only Japanese Chinese characters are called Kanji. Chinese words are just called Chinese characters. While kanji is taken from Chinese characters, many of the kanji's meaning has changed and are used differently than they are in Chinese. While in Japanese 原神 is the combination of words, 原神 is not a combination of words in Chinese, but an actual word.
I think the "impact" is because of them being in the same universe because the new games they announces (Honkai: Star Rail and Zenless Zone Zero) both don't have "impact" in it
meanwhile, I’m just going BRUHH at my other chinese friends who don’t realise the original name is in chinese
It's not pronounced the same so it's understandable
When Shinji causes the Genshin Impact or something idk I never watched 4.0
They took impact from evangelion the events when the angels destroy earth is known as the 1st 2nd and 3rd impact . Honkai is heavily influenced by eva
Genshin its actually an original word in the game.
It means "people who are qualified to be gods", so in my conception the game shows the impact of the "traveller" as being qualified to be a god, or something close to this.
Mihoyo is just a bunch of Otakus, they even said that themselve.
I think Genshin impact has Impact added to the name because in the west it's easy to make an association to Honkai Impact and the company that way. In resume, it's a subtle way to mark it as a product made by Mihoyo. After Genshin, if a new game comes with the word Impact I know there will people questioning if it's made by the same company that made Honkai Impact and Genshin Impact.
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Impact could be from Evangelion lol
About the reason why they went for Genshin, the Japanese word. I actually saw another video talking about it shortly, in that video they said it was bevause of how the Chinese market kinda wanna strays way from being known as Chinese, since globally "made in china" is often referred to as something bad due to their knock off and cheap stuff. Something along those lines at least
The video im talking about was about the Chinese animation industry.
Just wanted to leave this comment cause it was san interesting though behind the reason of choosing the Japanese name in my opinion c:
the impact is because the devs were huge evangelion fanboys, so they used the word *impact* based on third impact
when i hear the word impact i constandly get reminded to the 3d impact from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Thanks for the info!
Original decision had impact, is what I got in translator... Maybe it means the travelers original choice to put in more power than the other twin?