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The Sobering Podcast S08E04 feat Stogie T (Shallow EP, Tumi vs Stogie, PoetMC? and much more)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
  • Live and effect! Yeah, that's how we coming at you this week. We got the legendary Stogie in the cut to talk about his upcoming EP 'Shallow', past music and why he switched his name up. Look, it's a conversation that's been due for many years, so we do kinda delve into a lot. So, yeah press that play button and enjoy.
    00:00 Formalities
    03:00 Sobering intros
    05:22 The Shallow EP
    07:40 80s music inspiration
    09:40 Tumi in exile
    12:30 Coming back to South Africa/ code switching
    15:05 Themes in shallow, juxtaposing views
    18:22 Tumi vs Stogie
    22:08 Respect the rebrand
    24:27 Hello kitty revision
    27:40 Separating life and art
    30:30 Real life moments in the music
    36:30 Saying no to fan pictures
    40:30 Celebrity responsibility
    43:06 Moments over shadowing the art
    45:20 Finding your village early
    46:46 PoetMC and correcting Rashid
    49:39 Chip on the shoulder
    51:30 Toxicity in the culture
    54:46 Feeling peerless
    57:47 Battling sin and being saved
    01:00:13 Being preachy in hip hop
    01:02:00 By any means story
    01:06:19 Going from Muslim to Christianity
    01:11:11 Classic moments in hip hop
    01:17:30 Crowd questions
    01:27:07 Closing
    Guest
    @Stogie_T
    Hosts
    @Big_Warra
    @Fratpacker
    @Ke_Kitso_Bafethu
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    Recorded at Artistry
    Produced by The Sobering and Motif Records

Комментарии • 56

  • @Kemikal654
    @Kemikal654 5 месяцев назад +4

    I was hurt when Tumi dropped "what it's all about" because I idolised him, I wanted to know what he ate, what he reads, I wanted to be like him. But now that I am older I understand where he was coming from. We shouldn't be idolizing anyone, not even pastors, we are all human, flawed. I'm glad this conversation was had.

  • @onieltoocozy4L
    @onieltoocozy4L 5 месяцев назад +23

    Just admit you were a poet mc and life goes on

  • @LighthouseJaye
    @LighthouseJaye 5 месяцев назад +4

    1:20:46
    This is what rap and art is about.
    This is why jokes and ego aside Stogie T is him.
    What a question but more than that, what a way to articulate the depth behind the written lyrics, the real value in those bars.
    Thank you sir

  • @TshepangMotloung
    @TshepangMotloung 5 месяцев назад +5

    Fire episode, I love the awkward questions and moments. You gents know how to handle conversations.

  • @thabomokoena7892
    @thabomokoena7892 5 месяцев назад +2

    I always imagine Tumi in a show like the Kennedy Center show, Nas did a few year back....he should try it, and try it to sell it to TV,

  • @theoceantunnel
    @theoceantunnel 5 месяцев назад +3

    This was an amazing episode , I really enjoyed it.

  • @SRT1506
    @SRT1506 5 месяцев назад +6

    Word of the day : Juxtapose... Aint never heard it used so much in one setting...😅

  • @fisonleya1472
    @fisonleya1472 5 месяцев назад +3

    "Tumi why do you care"......that was a very good question

  • @SAMusic936
    @SAMusic936 Месяц назад

    Kabelo and Stogie T have such an interesting relationship, it’s hilarious🤣🤣

  • @Lemogangtshiamo
    @Lemogangtshiamo 5 месяцев назад +5

    tym to get A-Reece on the show🙏🙏

  • @BogodileMotlhabane
    @BogodileMotlhabane 5 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks for the interview Bafethu!!!! on a lighter note... thanks for touching the "Saying no to fan pictures" hahahah yo I'm a victim too LOL! Back in 2009, Tumi gave a very cold shoulder when i asked for a pic hahaha that shit hurt for years ahahaha As always thanks for the good content and Congrats on the HYPE MAG COVER!!!!! KGOTSO! PULA!!!

    • @happinessmalesela632
      @happinessmalesela632 5 месяцев назад

      😢you make me not wana ask for pics when Imma see my favourites

    • @BogodileMotlhabane
      @BogodileMotlhabane 5 месяцев назад

      @@happinessmalesela632 its a tricky one.... but I recommend you ask because you'll never know... just to avoid regrets i guess!

  • @YungKGDaExRapper
    @YungKGDaExRapper 2 месяца назад

    I liked the lawyer he looks like a minimalist 🙌🙌🙌

  • @mrdyasi
    @mrdyasi 5 месяцев назад

    1:09:35 Love the reference to "Rob The Church" one of my favourite Tumi songs from his best album, ROTK. We need that album on vinyl, CD again and on streaming

  • @mothocreates
    @mothocreates 5 месяцев назад +1

    Lovely!

  • @user-br1tu1ro2i
    @user-br1tu1ro2i 4 месяца назад +1

    Stogie T knows how to protect his Heart

  • @_artman
    @_artman 5 месяцев назад +2

    This was too nice man. Got me engaging like mad crazy. Can't wait to listen to "Shallow". S/O!!

  • @Jambavan.
    @Jambavan. 5 месяцев назад +1

    The Sobering Podcast ❤

  • @SPeeKaRSA
    @SPeeKaRSA 5 месяцев назад +14

    🐐

  • @ManyFaceGawd
    @ManyFaceGawd 5 месяцев назад +2

    Sound didn't sound the same vandag Kitso, but it doesn't take away how great the episode is fire as always gents

    • @Fratpackaffiliate
      @Fratpackaffiliate 5 месяцев назад +5

      Good Ear. I didn't shoot or record this time. Shout out for listening

  • @sithembisokhondlo3571
    @sithembisokhondlo3571 5 месяцев назад +3

    Cap, the net didn't name a 100 HIP hop classic albums , only a few were named including Avery

  • @mpholawrence8560
    @mpholawrence8560 5 месяцев назад +1

    That was more sobering😂..I love the episode. S/O..

  • @thursdaytherapy
    @thursdaytherapy 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love this ❤

  • @Axemoxion
    @Axemoxion 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was too nice

  • @zinoramarabha2162
    @zinoramarabha2162 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love howbthe opened on the poet note
    But did they ever speak of the disstrack by the O.G himself

  • @lesegomiltonrobertson3646
    @lesegomiltonrobertson3646 5 месяцев назад +2

    Masole a zwaketse, tussen and phakathi 🔥

  • @Geni_East
    @Geni_East 5 месяцев назад +1

    @ "Loudest ineffectual" 💯🤞🏾😂

  • @sbonisontombela1984
    @sbonisontombela1984 5 месяцев назад +2

    ♥️♥️♥️

  • @abtshoni
    @abtshoni 5 месяцев назад +3

    "Speaking was not a freedom"

  • @JimmyKhoza
    @JimmyKhoza 5 месяцев назад +2

    One of the hardcore loyal soldiers but there's nothing solid i picked from this episode; I'm sorry. Kept on feeling like it is gonna get better but i'm at the end of the episode and disappointed.

  • @onieltoocozy4L
    @onieltoocozy4L 5 месяцев назад +2

    Stogie is choking out here wtf 😂

  • @derealmatt
    @derealmatt 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Greatest of all time.

  • @mrdyasi
    @mrdyasi 5 месяцев назад

    I need "Return of the King" on streaming platforms

  • @lesegomiltonrobertson3646
    @lesegomiltonrobertson3646 5 месяцев назад +2

    I don't know, Stogie seems to be trapped in a prison of reason. I hear what he is saying but he is the one struggling with fact that all his efforts don't translate into the numbers and acceptance of the mainstream..., am i reaching?

  • @dumangwaafrika705
    @dumangwaafrika705 5 месяцев назад +2

    Mkhuku funkshen is a classic, so is kut and join, so is live at the baseline, so is the book of Proverb let's not play here

  • @tshegomasisi9089
    @tshegomasisi9089 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thought you guys will ask what is it that mans don’t dabble in Venac on his raps. 😬

  • @thatomotloung1124
    @thatomotloung1124 5 месяцев назад

    so many pause worthy moments in this episode 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @thabomoloi
    @thabomoloi 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love how the guys addressed the saying no to fans moment, (38:23) because it's the very thing that pushed me away from Tumi's music, the real time personality behind the songs wasn't as reflective, sympathetic and caring as he was on the music. What is also mad funny is the fact that i also i have story like Mokgethwa of seeing Tumi in an A Class in Bera back in 2012.

  • @dougley197
    @dougley197 5 месяцев назад

    bro I also asked man for a pic in 2010 at Sandton City, homie just walked by. haha

  • @Papito_ZA
    @Papito_ZA 5 месяцев назад

    3:17 an ingredient in the kota way = "special" 😂... Not sure if i will watch all but i hope he touches on why vernacular has never been his thing...

    • @Papito_ZA
      @Papito_ZA 5 месяцев назад

      12:04 😂😂😂 my ask was kinda addressed

  • @mengezinxumalo9276
    @mengezinxumalo9276 5 месяцев назад

    R5 for everytime Stogie says "you know what i mean"

  • @sandilenkanini1173
    @sandilenkanini1173 5 месяцев назад +1

    cover boys worldwide.

  • @TebogoMolloWaBorwa
    @TebogoMolloWaBorwa 5 месяцев назад

    Danko

  • @mojalefaguymahlo17
    @mojalefaguymahlo17 5 месяцев назад

    7 is the number.

  • @tshepolekgetho4419
    @tshepolekgetho4419 5 месяцев назад

    Hon. Tumi Molekane🤌

  • @siphiwomanana8666
    @siphiwomanana8666 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tumi sounded like a person who is not sure of himself

  • @CzArODriego
    @CzArODriego 5 месяцев назад

    Stogie tried so many times to tell the bros that he's human and hes not perfect. Being a public figure is so hard coz people exact the superhero all the time and sometimes you put your cape down

  • @tkmozolo7168
    @tkmozolo7168 5 месяцев назад

    Tumi

  • @nicholasmpondo378
    @nicholasmpondo378 5 месяцев назад

    Poet🤣😂🤭

  • @iam_aphe
    @iam_aphe 5 месяцев назад

    Why you guys invalidating and ignoring the people's questions? nd throwing them off like they're stupid questions? I feel like you could've left it out and not even ask in the first place if you guys are gonna mize them. It's just basic respect browski. That rubbed me off the wrong way man, but anyway.