Trick has a good point. First Light was a dead territory. But completely reworking it, AGS breathed new life into it. It's a harder approach to what they did with Everfall and Monarch's Bluff, even though that alone may not have made everyone visit those regions more, it was enough for the main story, which is fine.
The fact that people are crying about a 30 dollar expansion on a mmo with no sub and this about of content and systems is literally insane lmao. I feel similar about Destiny players… it’s like wow you guys really are just unreasonable
@Timayy I hate that it's a reset. Specifically why I always avoided other mmos. If you're going to reset it at least make bis obtainable within a shorter amount of time. Because crafting was absolute shite
i dont get why folks complaining bout the 30 dollas.. i mean, that like ordering pizza for me n my girl. or a variety of freetime or fun cost. to pay 30 bucks for 1000's of hours of fun is a great deal. also do the people expect the whole company and devs to be paid off the price of the base game, Yrs ago.. but they r supposed to work, and bring new stuff as well.. cmon folks.. cent per Hour fun it is more then a great deal. lmao
I think the main problem is not the price. Its the fact that they couldve released the game like this intially. But instead devs nowadays release unfinished games and then milk their playerbase for new content. It what ruins a lot of the MMOs
@@apjp6569yea this i have to agree with. i like to call it new world coming "out of beta". the reason i still support them is because they take player feedback very well and seriously and are constantly interacting with the community. sucks they were forced to launch because of investors 2 years ago. but the game on expac launch is what it needed to be on launch. hoping post expac they focus ENTIRELY on content (which will be free if u bought the expac) including pvp, pve, etc.
they could have not released the game like this, the game is what it is now and what it will be thanks to the constant support and feedback from the player base. If they would habe taken 2 years to release the game it would have been a completely different game that what it is now.@@apjp6569
The problem is that in US 30$ is cheap, but in other countries it's expensive, I have to pay R$89,00 here in Brazil. It's like paying 100 dollars in US forced.
18:00, to gain full access to transmog in NW it costs the same amount as 4 decades of wow subscription, or 67,5 years of grinding your weekly token. This may change, well I hope at least. But you pay for what you get I guess. And NW has been lacking in content since day 1. I'm buying the expansion in the hopes that they will be able to release more content faster, because at this snail pace the game will just die in between seasons. 18:50 you can buy gold in New World too, it's called the Territory Standing Booster just get to 300 with 50% tax reduction and print money by flipping buy orders.
What would you reccomend fora returning level 60 with mostly maxed proffesions to do now and until the expansion goes live? I dont have any ward gear or stuff like that so grinding dungeons for that or trying to bump expertise which also will be removed seems to be a bit pointless. My expertise is mostly 620 on everything and almost all weapons are max leveled. Is there anything specific I should do or just get familiar with the game again, grind money and/or do crafting?
the problem is, if you look really objectively at what we are getting in this expansion. mounts a new dungeon and a new weapon. everything else is an overhaul of things that are part of the base game.
It is a better business decision to make it a paid expansion. It grabs attention, everybody will hear about new world. I bet most of those players wont initially desire to pay for the expansion. But they will hear from friends or youtube if its good or not, and we know already how the game has improved so much already. So it could bring in the players, by adding a price tag you've set an expectation: "this will be worth the money" unlike brimstone which was a free update.
So much improvements, great performance for the majority of playerbase. I imagine people spending 30 bucks on the expansion to potentially have a mediocre experience with the performance of the game alone is such an improvement !
This is more of an "update" instead of an "expansion" when it comes to terms regarding other MMOs. The price line for this "expansion" is the same price people payed for the base game at release.
the thing is amazon said in the past, all content would be released for free, and now they charging 30$, and ofc the people playing will probably pay or quit if feedback of new expansion is bad. new players well idk if expansion is very good on reviews maybe they pay 70$, but if until now the new players didnt bought the 40$ game am not seeing they paying 70$ if expansion is just ok or mid.
In the past when New World was a survival game, in fact they said they game will be completely free, but once they changed the whole game and made it into an MMO the all content free philosophy was completely erased, cuz mmo are ever evolving game that need constant income to keep working on it.
If the add-on is paid and the "Battle pass" doesn't add content just more crates then it should be given for free when someone buys the add-on, that would be fair. Certainly if I buy the add-on I will not pay them for the battle pass.
I think the biggest issue with the expansion is that it may not go far enough to draw in new players beyond the game's current base. Outside of PvP there isn't a whole lot of group content (1 raid boss, 10? expeditions). My hope was this expansion would make New World more competitive + comparable to other MMOs when it comes to PvE. But their new fashion system is heavily monetized. Their housing system is still basic. The MSQ is "almost" complete. The mounts look cool, but they are being added 17 years since the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW introduced flying mounts to MMOs. I think it will be a fun zone, just like Brimstone, but that's it. Let's just hope the influences changes are enough to galvanize the PvP community.
Most likely they will increase in price, since the new mats will arrived you might need t5 mats to craft t6 mats if they will follow the curent crafting chain
This expansion will divide the current player base aswell. Not everyone will getting the expansion. Ppl gave the game another chance with fresh servers... that didnt go well either did it? Duping continued there too. And are we sure this expansion going to bug/exploit free?
I've been waiting for trapper rework since forever as a bleed spear trapper musket player this is music to my ears. Sniping is boring so I hope they won't do anything ridiculous for that side of the tree. I'd love it if they removed zoom.
We associate a new zone with a new experience. Elysian Wilds is so different from Fist Light that it is a new experience. It technically is a new zone .It is just in the place of an old one.GW2 has done this with the living story. A whole town got destroyed and rebuilt along with zones. WoW did the same in Cata with the old zones having different biomes. As long as its new content and a new experience who care about its geographic location. Besides complaining wont make them take it away. Don't play it if you don't like it.
People also need to understand, that for the $29.99 you're not only buying Season3. You're also paying for Season4, Season5 etc. Until the next expansion.
people also need to understand that for $40 u get the base game with ALL the zones, ALL the weapons, ALL the expeditions. Then here comes the "expansion" FOR $30 ...which gives u 1 "new" zone,weapon, exp etc. Definitely NOT an expansion imo but we are all buying it anyway lol
Honestly I expect more and desire more. For $30 I want several of new zones, more than just one new weapon (daggers, wands, crossbow, celestial gauntlet etc) and more character customization (hairstyles, faces, jewelry, facepaint ETC). With the increasing character level I would've liked to see more power to my core character than just stats. Maybe an extra ability slot for my weapons and increase level to my weapon max with new skills added to my skill tree, maybe even a third skill tree entirely. New added PVP content like "battlegrounds" or different PvP content that isn't outpost rush or world PVP. I just don't feel like we aren't getting enough.
Jeez, don't you have 30$?! Do you expect everything at once?! Just go work! /s - Half of the stuff you listed should've been in either from the get go or at this point in time already. From what i gathered, the community will tell you that all of this is coming! Well, at some point of course...
Systems that are fixing or replacing poorly designed old systems of NW and are introduced in the expansion should be available to all players to try without having to buy the expansion. The expansion should only Gate New content and it would be a good idea to make it more attractive by keeping it at 20 dollars or euros. Core game systems like The game's Inventory and item management system should have been overhauled by now and it saddens me to see that in the bright new expansion we will still be trying to play the game fighting against this micromanaging - play time sucking - Prep time Godzilla called "Inventory". Press "I" and despair! XD
i normally would say $30 is not bad for an expansion as there is no sub, but new world has been consistently putting in more and more money grabbing tactics. first it was seasons, then loadouts, then transmog tokens. Whats next? Comparing its money model to wow is bad they are known to have the worst monetization tactics out there
You really can't compare WoW to NW because WoW has so much more content than NW does currently, so the price is somewhat justified to be subscription based. Until NW has that type of content, it really is not comparable.
weve been going through 2 years of constant backtracking,bugs etc and now they trying to fix NW by revamping the systems that they been trying to fix for 2 years that ontop of only having 1 reworked zone no actual new zone no PvP content.30€ is a reasonable pricetag but the amount of content we are getting is not worth to be called an expansion, there HAS to be more zones,raids,OPR maps,worldbosses(not copy pasta turkeylon) etc. weve been cutting slack for AGS for the past 2 years when the first "BIG" expansion is coming 1 reworked zone and mounts aint cutting it
Great idea rework all 13 current zone with a new life and you want to be in evresingel zone has a purpose. Would be amazing if Amazon game studio and new world develpor. Do thath with care and amezment of evresingel zone in game. Do it with expansion and only expansion and not subsribsen payment. because has a recent to improve game money. Player come back and Amazon game studio and new world dev get paid. Every get wath they want.
I bought New World I believe it was 2 or 3 years before the release. I have been playing New World since the last Alpha they had where they made the change from the game being a survival MMO to a more RPG style MMO that it is today. My biggest issues with this paid DLC is that up until the Launch of the game the Dev's were adamant about you never having to pay to play their content. fast forward to now. Lets be real here for a minute. The player base has dropped off dramatically much more then anyone could have predicted. It still has major issues with aim botters in OPR's as well as Bots running around and claiming the resources that people work so hard to get in order to level trade skills. While the Dev's are attempting to address most of these issue they have fallen short on a number of occasions now on top of all that they have decided to lock people out completely from their new content, Nevermind the fact that they game was supposed to launch with over 30 weapons which we are by no means even close to having in the game. I think the majority of the player base that isn't brainwashed by AGS has come to realize that New Worlds paid dlc is nothing more then a cash grab to make money off of this slowly dying game while they focus on the LOTR title which will be using the New World engine. Which is why we are not getting a new zone but a rework of a previous zone that already existed in the game. a rework that you will now have to pay for to make the zone relevant to you. I would have no problems paying for this dlc had the Dev's not been so adamant on the player base never having to pay for content pre release let alone content that we already had access to that they decided to rework and put a price tag on lol.
its not even about the money... 30 bucks for a DLC is normal and no one cares about that.. its about paying to get dicked around again and continue to have a game that is buggy with garbage performance and latency.
How much is AGS paying you all to promote this game... I have played since beta, top crafter know more about the game then you all but I was smart enough to leave the game, you really push this game like it effects your pocket....... Just don't know how people support a game in this state how you support AGS with what could be the most bugs in any game out there and yet they dont fix it.. The update I refuse to call it an expansion will bring back some people but this game is going down hill fast unless they actually start listening to the players END OF STORY.
end of the day, game should have released with mounts, its basic as fuck. Every mmo has them from the get go, common sense. Its still a buggy mess. if they do not try to bring the player base back with a leap of faith by offering the expansion for free, they will not have anyone to spend money in their cash shops and it will only keep declining.
First light had THE BEST iron route ever
Trick has a good point. First Light was a dead territory. But completely reworking it, AGS breathed new life into it. It's a harder approach to what they did with Everfall and Monarch's Bluff, even though that alone may not have made everyone visit those regions more, it was enough for the main story, which is fine.
I agree. FL was the only truely dead territory. It started as a starter zone, that got moved to MB and WW. There were no talking NPCs or quests in FL.
@@themagicalex FL was the bot hangout. Also PVP fort fighting - but they moved the bonus to another territory so I imagine the fights moved.
Awesome video, very entertaining and informative podcast.
A new podcast episode. I thought this day would never come.
Thanks for a very enjoyable episode. You are both great! I can't wait for the next one
Already dismantled 4 storages of gear and weapons. Felt good. Bring on s3
Same 🤣
It feels so good to have storage room
i will come back when they add more to the map and the pop comes back.
like new zones or just more stuff on the current map?
The fact that people are crying about a 30 dollar expansion on a mmo with no sub and this about of content and systems is literally insane lmao. I feel similar about Destiny players… it’s like wow you guys really are just unreasonable
Most ppl just mad about the gear reset
@Timayy I hate that it's a reset. Specifically why I always avoided other mmos. If you're going to reset it at least make bis obtainable within a shorter amount of time. Because crafting was absolute shite
Your a good duo! :) Was enjoyable, thanks!
i dont get why folks complaining bout the 30 dollas.. i mean, that like ordering pizza for me n my girl. or a variety of freetime or fun cost. to pay 30 bucks for 1000's of hours of fun is a great deal. also do the people expect the whole company and devs to be paid off the price of the base game, Yrs ago.. but they r supposed to work, and bring new stuff as well.. cmon folks.. cent per Hour fun it is more then a great deal. lmao
I think the main problem is not the price. Its the fact that they couldve released the game like this intially. But instead devs nowadays release unfinished games and then milk their playerbase for new content. It what ruins a lot of the MMOs
@@apjp6569yea this i have to agree with. i like to call it new world coming "out of beta". the reason i still support them is because they take player feedback very well and seriously and are constantly interacting with the community. sucks they were forced to launch because of investors 2 years ago. but the game on expac launch is what it needed to be on launch. hoping post expac they focus ENTIRELY on content (which will be free if u bought the expac) including pvp, pve, etc.
they could have not released the game like this, the game is what it is now and what it will be thanks to the constant support and feedback from the player base. If they would habe taken 2 years to release the game it would have been a completely different game that what it is now.@@apjp6569
I hope they add the ability to change your appearance in the NEAR future!
If you can’t afford 30$ video game probably shouldn’t be a concern. Maybe getting a job and focusing on real life should be a focus instead
The problem is that in US 30$ is cheap, but in other countries it's expensive, I have to pay R$89,00 here in Brazil. It's like paying 100 dollars in US forced.
its not about the pricetag but the lack of content
the game price is different for every country@@NatOSz8
$30 for a year of content is pretty good deal@@Kore_Invalid
@@NatOSz8it's like $1000 in africa, could be worse 😂
18:00, to gain full access to transmog in NW it costs the same amount as 4 decades of wow subscription, or 67,5 years of grinding your weekly token.
This may change, well I hope at least. But you pay for what you get I guess. And NW has been lacking in content since day 1.
I'm buying the expansion in the hopes that they will be able to release more content faster, because at this snail pace the game will just die in between seasons.
18:50 you can buy gold in New World too, it's called the Territory Standing Booster just get to 300 with 50% tax reduction and print money by flipping buy orders.
What would you reccomend fora returning level 60 with mostly maxed proffesions to do now and until the expansion goes live?
I dont have any ward gear or stuff like that so grinding dungeons for that or trying to bump expertise which also will be removed seems to be a bit pointless. My expertise is mostly 620 on everything and almost all weapons are max leveled.
Is there anything specific I should do or just get familiar with the game again, grind money and/or do crafting?
Personally I’m fine with the expansion but they should make new zones more. Don’t be changing lower level zones since not every player is lvl 60.
any stats sugestions for flail ? heavy gear
Bilbo thinks trick is so funny and rightfully so lol
I’m not sure what to farm lol I’m max in everything
the problem is, if you look really objectively at what we are getting in this expansion. mounts a new dungeon and a new weapon. everything else is an overhaul of things that are part of the base game.
the main thing im loooking forward is a full pvp meta change :D !
but if u not into pvp u right this is pretty much it
Let's not forget the things they take away that you won't be able to do anymore unless you pay. But you aren't allowed to criticize the price tag.
It is a better business decision to make it a paid expansion.
It grabs attention, everybody will hear about new world. I bet most of those players wont initially desire to pay for the expansion. But they will hear from friends or youtube if its good or not, and we know already how the game has improved so much already.
So it could bring in the players, by adding a price tag you've set an expectation: "this will be worth the money" unlike brimstone which was a free update.
So much improvements, great performance for the majority of playerbase. I imagine people spending 30 bucks on the expansion to potentially have a mediocre experience with the performance of the game alone is such an improvement !
This is more of an "update" instead of an "expansion" when it comes to terms regarding other MMOs.
The price line for this "expansion" is the same price people payed for the base game at release.
the thing is amazon said in the past, all content would be released for free, and now they charging 30$, and ofc the people playing will probably pay or quit if feedback of new expansion is bad. new players well idk if expansion is very good on reviews maybe they pay 70$, but if until now the new players didnt bought the 40$ game am not seeing they paying 70$ if expansion is just ok or mid.
In the past when New World was a survival game, in fact they said they game will be completely free, but once they changed the whole game and made it into an MMO the all content free philosophy was completely erased, cuz mmo are ever evolving game that need constant income to keep working on it.
I'd like to take at least one of my current 625 GS items up to 700GS. For sentimental reasons. :)
Is this available in audio only anywhere?
If the add-on is paid and the "Battle pass" doesn't add content just more crates then it should be given for free when someone buys the add-on, that would be fair. Certainly if I buy the add-on I will not pay them for the battle pass.
No mostly game is to grind. This comes from a multiple mmo player. Plus some of the gearing and content issues that simple.
I think the biggest issue with the expansion is that it may not go far enough to draw in new players beyond the game's current base. Outside of PvP there isn't a whole lot of group content (1 raid boss, 10? expeditions). My hope was this expansion would make New World more competitive + comparable to other MMOs when it comes to PvE. But their new fashion system is heavily monetized. Their housing system is still basic. The MSQ is "almost" complete. The mounts look cool, but they are being added 17 years since the Burning Crusade expansion for WoW introduced flying mounts to MMOs. I think it will be a fun zone, just like Brimstone, but that's it. Let's just hope the influences changes are enough to galvanize the PvP community.
If open world pvp becomes commonplace, then I reckon big pvp chads will be happy as fuck
im good for 30USD expansion in guild wars 2 the mount expansion is 30usd also first day
Anyone know what's gonna happen with the daily legendary crafting materials like Asmodeun, Runic Leather, etc? Will they be obsolete now?
Most likely they will increase in price, since the new mats will arrived you might need t5 mats to craft t6 mats if they will follow the curent crafting chain
ty@@swagjuice6206
The pro move is to let people play the expansion for 24 hours for free besides the ptr. Give them a taste.
This expansion will divide the current player base aswell. Not everyone will getting the expansion. Ppl gave the game another chance with fresh servers... that didnt go well either did it? Duping continued there too. And are we sure this expansion going to bug/exploit free?
I thought they said daggers werent the next weapon
30 euro is CHEAP for all the content that is in the expansion :)
15:29 cod isnt like that anymore lol
I've been waiting for trapper rework since forever as a bleed spear trapper musket player this is music to my ears. Sniping is boring so I hope they won't do anything ridiculous for that side of the tree. I'd love it if they removed zoom.
$30 for month of experience
We associate a new zone with a new experience. Elysian Wilds is so different from Fist Light that it is a new experience. It technically is a new zone .It is just in the place of an old one.GW2 has done this with the living story. A whole town got destroyed and rebuilt along with zones. WoW did the same in Cata with the old zones having different biomes. As long as its new content and a new experience who care about its geographic location. Besides complaining wont make them take it away. Don't play it if you don't like it.
People also need to understand, that for the $29.99 you're not only buying Season3. You're also paying for Season4, Season5 etc. Until the next expansion.
considering the seasons are free, this is the dumbest statement i have ever seen. your not getting the premium pass for buying the expansion.
people also need to understand that for $40 u get the base game with ALL the zones, ALL the weapons, ALL the expeditions. Then here comes the "expansion" FOR $30 ...which gives u 1 "new" zone,weapon, exp etc. Definitely NOT an expansion imo but we are all buying it anyway lol
Honestly I expect more and desire more. For $30 I want several of new zones, more than just one new weapon (daggers, wands, crossbow, celestial gauntlet etc) and more character customization (hairstyles, faces, jewelry, facepaint ETC). With the increasing character level I would've liked to see more power to my core character than just stats. Maybe an extra ability slot for my weapons and increase level to my weapon max with new skills added to my skill tree, maybe even a third skill tree entirely. New added PVP content like "battlegrounds" or different PvP content that isn't outpost rush or world PVP. I just don't feel like we aren't getting enough.
Jeez, don't you have 30$?! Do you expect everything at once?! Just go work! /s - Half of the stuff you listed should've been in either from the get go or at this point in time already. From what i gathered, the community will tell you that all of this is coming! Well, at some point of course...
Systems that are fixing or replacing poorly designed old systems of NW and are introduced in the expansion should be available to all players to try without having to buy the expansion. The expansion should only Gate New content and it would be a good idea to make it more attractive by keeping it at 20 dollars or euros. Core game systems like The game's Inventory and item management system should have been overhauled by now and it saddens me to see that in the bright new expansion we will still be trying to play the game fighting against this micromanaging - play time sucking - Prep time Godzilla called "Inventory". Press "I" and despair! XD
i normally would say $30 is not bad for an expansion as there is no sub, but new world has been consistently putting in more and more money grabbing tactics. first it was seasons, then loadouts, then transmog tokens. Whats next? Comparing its money model to wow is bad they are known to have the worst monetization tactics out there
You really can't compare WoW to NW because WoW has so much more content than NW does currently, so the price is somewhat justified to be subscription based. Until NW has that type of content, it really is not comparable.
weve been going through 2 years of constant backtracking,bugs etc and now they trying to fix NW by revamping the systems that they been trying to fix for 2 years that ontop of only having 1 reworked zone no actual new zone no PvP content.30€ is a reasonable pricetag but the amount of content we are getting is not worth to be called an expansion, there HAS to be more zones,raids,OPR maps,worldbosses(not copy pasta turkeylon) etc. weve been cutting slack for AGS for the past 2 years when the first "BIG" expansion is coming 1 reworked zone and mounts aint cutting it
My trading hub is Monarch's Bluff... That's my hometown you're disrespecting man... Rude.
You have to be related to xqc
Hahaha, surprisingly, I get that a lot.
buff muskets and i will quit the game.
Great idea rework all 13 current zone with a new life and you want to be in evresingel zone has a purpose. Would be amazing if Amazon game studio and new world develpor. Do thath with care and amezment of evresingel zone in game. Do it with expansion and only expansion and not subsribsen payment. because has a recent to improve game money. Player come back and Amazon game studio and new world dev get paid. Every get wath they want.
I bought New World I believe it was 2 or 3 years before the release. I have been playing New World since the last Alpha they had where they made the change from the game being a survival MMO to a more RPG style MMO that it is today. My biggest issues with this paid DLC is that up until the Launch of the game the Dev's were adamant about you never having to pay to play their content. fast forward to now. Lets be real here for a minute. The player base has dropped off dramatically much more then anyone could have predicted. It still has major issues with aim botters in OPR's as well as Bots running around and claiming the resources that people work so hard to get in order to level trade skills. While the Dev's are attempting to address most of these issue they have fallen short on a number of occasions now on top of all that they have decided to lock people out completely from their new content, Nevermind the fact that they game was supposed to launch with over 30 weapons which we are by no means even close to having in the game. I think the majority of the player base that isn't brainwashed by AGS has come to realize that New Worlds paid dlc is nothing more then a cash grab to make money off of this slowly dying game while they focus on the LOTR title which will be using the New World engine. Which is why we are not getting a new zone but a rework of a previous zone that already existed in the game. a rework that you will now have to pay for to make the zone relevant to you. I would have no problems paying for this dlc had the Dev's not been so adamant on the player base never having to pay for content pre release let alone content that we already had access to that they decided to rework and put a price tag on lol.
its not even about the money... 30 bucks for a DLC is normal and no one cares about that.. its about paying to get dicked around again and continue to have a game that is buggy with garbage performance and latency.
Performance has gotten much better, with S3 they already have a better platform to reduce latency.
How much is AGS paying you all to promote this game... I have played since beta, top crafter know more about the game then you all but I was smart enough to leave the game, you really push this game like it effects your pocket....... Just don't know how people support a game in this state how you support AGS with what could be the most bugs in any game out there and yet they dont fix it.. The update I refuse to call it an expansion will bring back some people but this game is going down hill fast unless they actually start listening to the players END OF STORY.
thanks for watching, see ya in Aeternum in S3.
Hope you are smart enough to never come back :)
end of the day, game should have released with mounts, its basic as fuck. Every mmo has them from the get go, common sense. Its still a buggy mess. if they do not try to bring the player base back with a leap of faith by offering the expansion for free, they will not have anyone to spend money in their cash shops and it will only keep declining.
I'm a simple man, I see a pink haired dude, I hit that do not recommend option.
it was a sub goal he had on stream chat made that :( !
im a simple man, if someone doesnt like me cuz of the color of my hair, i hit that i dont care option.
DEAD GAME.
Super fun to play dead game.