Always interesting watching your videos and hearing someone I know on frequency! The Tower (Local) controller you talked to that day is an old Air Force buddy of mine, he was a GS civilian controller at Whiteman AFB before and went FAA. Nice flight out of my hometown!
I agree 100%. Pilots can fly in many countries around the world, but nowhere else do they enjoy the freedom, simplicity and affordability of US pilots. Let's commit to working hard to keeping it that way! - Martin
Thanks for taking us along Martin. The tail cam out the back is really sharp and clear. The moving maps really nice also. I'm still amazed after all this time that you don't have a 100K subs. Take care and Thanks Again for letting me fly vicariously though you.
Martin this was a remarkable nice smood flight! What a light! And you could land just before the sun was totally down! Lovely! And the controllers seems all so happy!
love'd the video mate, the under shot of the aircraft looking back was mesmerizing, just the whole edit was fantastic as usual. just a real joy to watch.
Nice and peacefull video! Always bringing me up very good memories when I used to fly Bonanzas long time ago! Thanks for share Martin btw epic view 4:52
Great videography and tour of the KC area. That area just NW of Downtown Airport is on the KS side and use to be the site of Fairfax Airport. It closed 20 or more years ago and a GM plant was built on the site. During WWII North American made B25's at Fairfax Airport. I think Pratt and Whitney also had a plant there then.
Berlin - da war ich gerade erst. Beckey und ich waren drei Tage im Januar dort. Es war erst mein zweiter Besuch in der Stadt; beim letzten mal stand die Mauer noch... Viele Grüsse aus Iowa! - Martin
I live about 1 mile from the airport in Grain Valley about 25 miles east of KC. I enjoyed the flight around the KC downtown area. Maybe you can land at the GV airport and put it on YT. Thanks for ride Martin.
Great video, thanks for the memories, I grew up in KCMO for many years, student pilot now and I will be doing the exact same thing soon in a brand new Cirrus SR 22 GTS.
Another great video Martin, I really enjoyed it watching it and I see that You have a lot of patient putting up all those GoPro cameras in the right place. Thank You my friend for taking Us on that beautiful flight over the City.
Another great video Martin! Very informative to those of us still learning. I hope to be able to fly my plane along with a few others (including Josh Yousef) to sun and fun this spring. Another long time friend of mine from Houston will be flying in with his Baron. Hope to see you there again.
We went to a Jack Stack, Mike, and enjoyed a nice dinner there. Followed by some live music. It was fun; in fact that same group from the January 2019 weekend trip got together again in KC this past January. I went to MKC this time. Regards, Martin
Hi Bill, thanks for the note, and I am happy to hear you are enjoying the videos. I will be back at a recording for "In The Hangar" this month; looking forward to more episodes. Regards, Martin
Hi Martin......I'm a brazilian pilot, I watch your videos and I'd like to congratulate you for these videos Sometimes I make flight in a BE36, it's a wonderful machine..
Thank you, James. It was fun, though a bit unusual to give a presentation like this with nobody sitting in front of me. I'm happy the internet connection kept working, and it all worked out alright. Best, Martin
You make it look easy Martin. Well done. I’ve been in and out of Wheeler Downtown, and when landing 01, or departing 19, those downtown buildings seem eerily close!
Yes, MKC has some tall buildings nearby, and even taller towers. Easy to avoid when the visibility is good, but in low visibility one has to really pay attention. - Martin
Hi Charlie. Midwest wind is a little different from some other places, for sure. Last time coming back from Kansas City, wind in Cedar Rapids was gusting to 41. Aligned perfectly with the runway, so the landing was actually quite alright, but taxiing to the hangar after leaving the runway was at a snail's pace because of the wind. Will I see you at your company's booth at Sun 'n Fun this year? Take care! - Martin
@@martinpauly Thank you! I hope you had a great weekend. Actually, I was doing Yard Work all weekend : P, and have had a very busy week (eh, What's new?), but I'm up in Lake Tahoe now, for this whole week! So this week I'll be skiing, probably while you're flying... I'm sure you're getting ready for Sun 'n Fun. I'm still hoping to make OSH this year. (No, not Orchard Supply Hardware, which is now out of business, BTW. Hello Home Depot...) Cheers! -Cuz
Dang, that was cutting it a bit close for a VFR flight. You could even clearly see the PAPI on final approach. I have honestly never seen them on any other VFR landing on RUclips. That shows how dark it was outside already. Still, controller said nothing, sounds like she has the hots for you. XD
I am sorry, I don't understand your comment... VFR doesn't end at sunset. At least here in the US, night VFR is perfectly normal. Good to know, though, that the controller might cut me some slack should that ever be needed. :-) Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly Oh really? We need a night rating if you want to fly after dark. The clue is in the name, Visual Flight Rules. You can't see the ground in the dark. Well, there is so much ambient light where you fly, I suppose you can still see everything, even after sunset, which technically still makes night flying VFR. XD Anyway, just loved the way she said "You too" at the end there. She sounds really cute.
Not in a hurry that day Martin? Well why not enjoy a fly around and looking around the local neighbourhood. The shadow of the aircraft taking off was a nice touch. Don't let those ATC bully you around lol. "N0TB are you ready to leave the area yet?" "NO" that's the way to answer them. They are there to assist you and not shove you around, good job Martin.
Thank you, Bob. I, too, liked the footage of my shadow with the gear coming up. Regarding ATC rushing me to leave, I try to work with everybody. It's not just the controller, but also other pilots. Somebody may be waiting for IFR release on the ground because I'm circling there. So I ask for what I want, but I also try to be reasonable about it. Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly I understand that, but I thought they might say if you were holding up others, it would then be a request for you to leave and of course you being the gentleman that you are would leave right away. Thanks for getting back to me.
The camera is attached to my tie down hook on the tail, using a very sturdy mount called "My Pilot Pro Mount". Capturing my own shadow on the runway when I retracted the gear turned out beautifully! - Martin
Yes... in general, I am not a fan of the automated ATIS and the overloaded, very long recordings at most large airports. Yes, I know there are birds in the vicinity... Keep it short and sweet, and, oh, yes, get the cloud coverage right, please. :-) - Martin
Hi there. An applicable rule is 14 CFR § 91.17 (b). This does not prohibit passengers from drinking alcohol, but it does set the expectation that passengers must not get intoxicated. Another data point is that most airlines offer alcoholic beverages to their passengers. I guess if things get our of hand, one could also point at 14 CFR § 91.13. So while the rules for the pilot/crew are very black-and-white, my understanding of the rules for passengers is that it's not a matter of "can they" or "can't they", but more along the lines of "what is a reasonable limit". If you know know of other regulations or FAA guidance on the topic, I'd be interested in learning more about it. Best, Martin
Thanks for the kind feedback! KMKC is a wonderful airport. I was just there last month. I need to come back sometime when the museum is open. Best regards, Martin
Thanks, Paul. At MCI I did the run-up on the FBO ramp, before calling Ground for taxi (I cut the run-up out in this video). I've also done a run-up later in some cases, but only when I was certain that there would be time for it. A few times I've done rolling run-ups, when there were long straight taxiways and little traffic. So I guess the answer to your question is: it depends. Best regards, Martin
I agree - it's a formality, and I wouldn't have been be too concerned if he had NOT cleared me into the Bravo (since I was already in it). Unlike on landing, where it's critical to hear the magic words "cleared into the Bravo airspace" before proceeding. Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly I suppose you aren't technically in the bravo on the ground since you aren't in the "airspace", so the controller was technically correct clearing you into it. I've never departed a Bravo VFR, so this was a new learning for me. Thanks for sharing it. Looks like you have some nice wx for this time of the year out there.
Martin Pauly Yep, I kind of caught that it was similar, but looked like you added some stuff as well.... Hence “refurbished”..... Dang, once I upload mine, I delete all my raw footage..... Ya got me thinking now, but alas, I would run out of space!!!
@@martinpauly Not sure how many aircraft pass through daily but I do see alot of military aircraft stopping there. The front page of there website has alot of good info 😉
I seen a forest fire at night from an airplane before at 35,000-37,000 feet, it looked like a ring of yellow on the ground, the middle you couldn't even see because of the smoke.
Andrew, is this an expansion for more capacity, or just a modernization/remodeling program? I've been at this airport twice; looked like they are not too busy and have plenty of terminal space. Regards, Martin
Always interesting watching your videos and hearing someone I know on frequency! The Tower (Local) controller you talked to that day is an old Air Force buddy of mine, he was a GS civilian controller at Whiteman AFB before and went FAA. Nice flight out of my hometown!
Which shows again that aviation is such a small world!
- Martin
Flying with this freedom is only possible in America. Thanks Martin for taking us along.
I agree 100%. Pilots can fly in many countries around the world, but nowhere else do they enjoy the freedom, simplicity and affordability of US pilots. Let's commit to working hard to keeping it that way!
- Martin
beautiful scene , beautiful sunset, very clear liesurely ATC .thanks for the video.
You are very welcome!
- Martin
Beautiful sunset flight Martin. It doesn’t get much better than that. Thanks for taking us along.
It was a stunningly beautiful day for flying, Dominic! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Regards, Martin
Wing-rockin' KC tour and... airborne sunset!
You said it, "man, flying is beautiful!"
I agree!
The weather doesn't get much better than it was on that day!
- Martin
super clear Class B example, Thank you Martin
Born and raised here in KCMO, thanks for the great views of the city!
You are very welcome!
- Martin
Thanks for taking us along Martin. The tail cam out the back is really sharp and clear. The moving maps really nice also. I'm still amazed after all this time that you don't have a 100K subs. Take care and Thanks Again for letting me fly vicariously though you.
Thanks, Bob. The tail camera catching my shadow on the runway (with the gear coming up) is one of my favorite shots!
Best regards, Martin
Martin this was a remarkable nice smood flight! What a light! And you could land just before the sun was totally down! Lovely! And the controllers seems all so happy!
It was one of those picture-perfect flying days, Björn!
- Martin
love'd the video mate, the under shot of the aircraft looking back was mesmerizing, just the whole edit was fantastic as usual. just a real joy to watch.
Thanks for taking us along again Martin great video Regards Steve B
Glad you enjoyed the flight, Steve!
- Martin
Nice and peacefull video!
Always bringing me up very good memories when I used to fly Bonanzas long time ago!
Thanks for share Martin
btw epic view 4:52
Yes, I love that view! The clear day, bright sunlight and -angle made it work perfectly!
- Martin
@@martinpauly
Congrats ! 👍
Enjoy your weekend
Fly Safe as always !
Greetings from MX
That tail view looking at the runway was terrific
Thanks - of everything I recorded, this is one of my favorite views as well!
- Martin
Great videography and tour of the KC area. That area just NW of Downtown Airport is on the KS side and use to be the site of Fairfax Airport. It closed 20 or more years ago and a GM plant was built on the site. During WWII North American made B25's at Fairfax
Airport. I think Pratt and Whitney also had a plant there then.
Thanks, Tim. Always interesting to hear about the history of places.
Best, Martin
Showing the smoke column when ATC was asked about it was a great touch. Grüße aus Berlin!
Berlin - da war ich gerade erst. Beckey und ich waren drei Tage im Januar dort. Es war erst mein zweiter Besuch in der Stadt; beim letzten mal stand die Mauer noch...
Viele Grüsse aus Iowa!
- Martin
Martin Pauly Sehr schön! Die Stadt hat sich seitdem sehr verändert. Ich hoffe, ihr habt viel Spaß gehabt :)
@@JamesMr90 Oh ja! Wir hoffen, bald nochmal nach Berlin zu kommen. Dann vielleicht im Sommer, wenn die Tage länger sind und das Wetter schöner ist.
Martin Pauly sag Bescheid, wann das 70TB-Treffen stattfindet 😁
@@JamesMr90 👍
Downtown Kansas city airport is one of my favorites to fly into. Great video.
Mine, too - MKC is a great example of how a city can embrace General Aviation and welcome pilots to visit.
- Martin
I live about 1 mile from the airport in Grain Valley about 25 miles east of KC. I enjoyed the flight around the KC downtown area. Maybe you can land at the GV airport and put it on YT. Thanks for ride Martin.
I'll keep that (GV airport) in mind.
All the best!
- Martin
Great video, thanks for the memories, I grew up in KCMO for many years, student pilot now and I will be doing the exact same thing soon in a brand new Cirrus SR 22 GTS.
A brand new SR22? You are a lucky man, Craig!
Good luck for your flight training, and enjoy that Cirrus.
- Martin
Martin Pauly yes sir the universal Power has been good to me.
Another educational masterpiece. Thanks Marty!
Thanks for the kind words, Jason. Happy to hear you enjoyed it!
Regards, Martin
That was a nice flight Martin. Thanks for the ride !
My pleasure, Ben. It was a beautiful day indeed.
Regards, Martin
NEW VIDEO!!!! Just made my day! Thanks for sharing
Old footage from last year, but a brand new video, yes.
Enjoy, and have a good weekend!
- Martin
Very nice flight. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! :-)
- Martin
I do love the videos. You are inspiring me to get back into the game after 28 years on the ground.
Hopefully you can get back into it - I wish you good luck!
- Martin
Another great video Martin, I really enjoyed it watching it and I see that You have a lot of patient putting up all those GoPro cameras in the right place. Thank You my friend for taking Us on that beautiful flight over the City.
You are very welcome - happy to hear you enjoyed it.
Regards, Martin
nice video Martin please keep up with the great work. thanks again for sharing
You are welcome, Wael. Have a great weekend!
- Martin
Another great video Martin! Very informative to those of us still learning. I hope to be able to fly my plane along with a few others (including Josh Yousef) to sun and fun this spring. Another long time friend of mine from Houston will be flying in with his Baron. Hope to see you there again.
I can't wait for Sun 'n Fun, and I look forward to seeing you and Josh (and many others) there again!
Until then: take care, and fly safe!
- Martin
Nice flight Martin, thank you for taking us along! Hope you ate somewhere good in KC.
We went to a Jack Stack, Mike, and enjoyed a nice dinner there. Followed by some live music. It was fun; in fact that same group from the January 2019 weekend trip got together again in KC this past January. I went to MKC this time.
Regards, Martin
New to your channel Martin. Very nice video. Came here after seeing you on In The Hangar. Looking forward to following you.
Hi Bill, thanks for the note, and I am happy to hear you are enjoying the videos.
I will be back at a recording for "In The Hangar" this month; looking forward to more episodes.
Regards, Martin
Hi Martin......I'm a brazilian pilot, I watch your videos and I'd like to congratulate you for these videos
Sometimes I make flight in a BE36, it's a wonderful machine..
Thank you, Sandra.
Greetings to Brazil!
- Martin
Great job at the EAA webinar yesterday! Very informative.
Thank you, James. It was fun, though a bit unusual to give a presentation like this with nobody sitting in front of me. I'm happy the internet connection kept working, and it all worked out alright.
Best, Martin
Awesome video, as always, MP. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure, Robert.
Have a good weekend!
- Martin
@@martinpauly Whenever you are out East, let me know (NC) - we go fly in our Citation.
@@robertg5393 Wow, that would be fun! I don't get out that way often, but I'll try to remember.
Thank you!
- Martin
Quiet for a bravo airport. Nice flight.
Agreed - I've been to Class C airports which were busier than MCI on that Sunday afternoon.
- Martin
Thanks for the air tour. Spent many a year at both towns (KS & MO)
My pleasure, Gwen!
- Martin
Pilot asks “You know what all that smoke is?” Tower answers “It’s a fire in Kansas” Not Missouri’s problem. :) Nice views of KC. Thanks!
You definitely improved your radio skills since back then. Beautiful scenery :)
Loved the "virtual trip". A couple of external cameras, one wide angle down firing, will be superb!
There's my excuse to buy more gadgets! :-)
- Martin
You make it look easy Martin. Well done. I’ve been in and out of Wheeler Downtown, and when landing 01, or departing 19, those downtown buildings seem eerily close!
Yes, MKC has some tall buildings nearby, and even taller towers. Easy to avoid when the visibility is good, but in low visibility one has to really pay attention.
- Martin
Nice video. When you were over downtown KC the departure controller just wanted you out of his sector.
Thanks, Bill.
- Martin
You just got another sub Mr Pauly
Thank you for that - I hope you will enjoy some of my other videos as well.
Regards, Martin
I did my last BFR/IPC out of there in a Warrior. First time flying in Kansas wind. Kicked my butt.
Hi Charlie. Midwest wind is a little different from some other places, for sure. Last time coming back from Kansas City, wind in Cedar Rapids was gusting to 41. Aligned perfectly with the runway, so the landing was actually quite alright, but taxiing to the hangar after leaving the runway was at a snail's pace because of the wind.
Will I see you at your company's booth at Sun 'n Fun this year?
Take care!
- Martin
@@martinpauly yes! I will see you there!
GREAT editing.
Thank you, John.
- Martin
Smooth on the controls.....👍👍👍✈️✈️✈️
Thanks, John!
- Martin
When I can’t fly -there’s always Martin! Tops on RUclips who needs HBO lol
Glad you enjoyed it - have a great weekend!
- Martin
We call it “aviation tv” when we watch our subscriptions on the SmartTv... almost the only time we watch tv
Nice Martin (flying & video), as usual.
Thanks, Cousin. Enjoy your weekend!
- Martin
@@martinpauly Thank you! I hope you had a great weekend. Actually, I was doing Yard Work all weekend : P, and have had a very busy week (eh, What's new?), but I'm up in Lake Tahoe now, for this whole week! So this week I'll be skiing, probably while you're flying... I'm sure you're getting ready for Sun 'n Fun. I'm still hoping to make OSH this year. (No, not Orchard Supply Hardware, which is now out of business, BTW. Hello Home Depot...) Cheers! -Cuz
Cousin Enjoy the mountains and the snow. First round at AirVenture will be on me!
- Martin
The camera rendered the PAPI nicely at sunset. Glad to hear you're going to be down here at Sun-N-Fun, hope to meet you. Great as usual. Mike
Thanks, Mike. Are you based in Lakeland? I can't wait - will be there the whole week.
Regards, Martin
@@martinpauly Brandon is home, 20 miles from KLAL, and look forward to saying hi in person.
platemod Awesome - see you there!
Such friendly controllers
For the most part, I've found controllers everywhere friendly.
A few exceptions here and there, but it seems to be rare.
- Martin
Dang, that was cutting it a bit close for a VFR flight. You could even clearly see the PAPI on final approach. I have honestly never seen them on any other VFR landing on RUclips. That shows how dark it was outside already. Still, controller said nothing, sounds like she has the hots for you. XD
I am sorry, I don't understand your comment... VFR doesn't end at sunset. At least here in the US, night VFR is perfectly normal.
Good to know, though, that the controller might cut me some slack should that ever be needed. :-)
Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly Oh really? We need a night rating if you want to fly after dark. The clue is in the name, Visual Flight Rules. You can't see the ground in the dark. Well, there is so much ambient light where you fly, I suppose you can still see everything, even after sunset, which technically still makes night flying VFR. XD
Anyway, just loved the way she said "You too" at the end there. She sounds really cute.
Not in a hurry that day Martin? Well why not enjoy a fly around and looking around the local neighbourhood. The shadow of the aircraft taking off was a nice touch. Don't let those ATC bully you around lol. "N0TB are you ready to leave the area yet?" "NO" that's the way to answer them. They are there to assist you and not shove you around, good job Martin.
Thank you, Bob. I, too, liked the footage of my shadow with the gear coming up.
Regarding ATC rushing me to leave, I try to work with everybody. It's not just the controller, but also other pilots. Somebody may be waiting for IFR release on the ground because I'm circling there. So I ask for what I want, but I also try to be reasonable about it.
Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly I understand that, but I thought they might say if you were holding up others, it would then be a request for you to leave and of course you being the gentleman that you are would leave right away. Thanks for getting back to me.
@@martinpauly Good flight b the way.
"Bird activity in the area" = The sun is up and it's not raining too hard?? LOL 8)
I agree, losing the "birds in the vicinity" from the ATIS wouldn't be too terrible of a loss. :-)
Keep it short and sweet, that's my vote.
- Martin
The downward facing camera angle is pretty cool. Is that mounted on the tail or wing tiedown? The view of MKC was very nice.
The camera is attached to my tie down hook on the tail, using a very sturdy mount called "My Pilot Pro Mount". Capturing my own shadow on the runway when I retracted the gear turned out beautifully!
- Martin
Siri’s grandpa (Macintosh lol) is the ATIS robot lol
Sounds like it, yes! 😁
- Martin
Nice video!
That ATIS was really weird :)
Yes... in general, I am not a fan of the automated ATIS and the overloaded, very long recordings at most large airports. Yes, I know there are birds in the vicinity... Keep it short and sweet, and, oh, yes, get the cloud coverage right, please. :-)
- Martin
You were just east of my house! Hope you had a good flight!
It was a GREAT flight - couldn't have asked for a nice day!
- Martin
hi Marty - Quick Q- you are PIC for a flight. Can passengers in the A/c consume alcohol during a flight ? whats your thought ? thx
Hi there. An applicable rule is 14 CFR § 91.17 (b). This does not prohibit passengers from drinking alcohol, but it does set the expectation that passengers must not get intoxicated. Another data point is that most airlines offer alcoholic beverages to their passengers.
I guess if things get our of hand, one could also point at 14 CFR § 91.13.
So while the rules for the pilot/crew are very black-and-white, my understanding of the rules for passengers is that it's not a matter of "can they" or "can't they", but more along the lines of "what is a reasonable limit".
If you know know of other regulations or FAA guidance on the topic, I'd be interested in learning more about it.
Best, Martin
Love your videos. I instruct out of KMKC.
Thanks for the kind feedback!
KMKC is a wonderful airport. I was just there last month. I need to come back sometime when the museum is open.
Best regards, Martin
@11:54 That voice is the same voice on Sporty’s IFR volume 1 video where he’s in a Mirrage 61PP going to Chicago Midway from Claremont County ...
Nice video Martin, where do you typically do your run ups when at these Bravos?
Thanks, Paul. At MCI I did the run-up on the FBO ramp, before calling Ground for taxi (I cut the run-up out in this video). I've also done a run-up later in some cases, but only when I was certain that there would be time for it. A few times I've done rolling run-ups, when there were long straight taxiways and little traffic. So I guess the answer to your question is: it depends.
Best regards, Martin
Interesting that they clear you into the bravo when you are on the ground. Is there another choice? :)
I agree - it's a formality, and I wouldn't have been be too concerned if he had NOT cleared me into the Bravo (since I was already in it). Unlike on landing, where it's critical to hear the magic words "cleared into the Bravo airspace" before proceeding.
Best regards, Martin
@@martinpauly I suppose you aren't technically in the bravo on the ground since you aren't in the "airspace", so the controller was technically correct clearing you into it. I've never departed a Bravo VFR, so this was a new learning for me. Thanks for sharing it. Looks like you have some nice wx for this time of the year out there.
Good job, I "THOUGHT" this was an older video "refurbished" - HA!
Yes, the footage is a year old, Ron, but the video is brand new.
I had kind of forgotten I had this material ;-)
- Martin
Martin Pauly
Yep, I kind of caught that it was similar, but looked like you added some stuff as well....
Hence “refurbished”.....
Dang, once I upload mine, I delete all my raw footage.....
Ya got me thinking now, but alas, I would run out of space!!!
Spent many miles cycling around the Wheeler Field
I've seen people running and biking there!
- Martin
Didn't you do a 360 video of downtown Kansas City some time ago? Was this the same flight?
Yes, that was the same flight and my first experiment with 360 video.
I even used some of the 360 footage in this "normal" edition.
- Martin
Hoping to meet you at sun N fun Martin.
I'll be there - can't wait!
- Martin
Fun fact: the wheeler airport has a 24 hour manned tower.
Do you know how much traffic they have at night? 24h seems like it might be overkill...
- Martin
@@martinpauly Not sure how many aircraft pass through daily but I do see alot of military aircraft stopping there. The front page of there website has alot of good info 😉
Dang man...can’t get a friend to fly with you?
wow SIX cameras -- wait -- seven? -- or eight
On this one, I had seven cameras (one of them outside, on the tail tie down hook) plus the recording of the iPad. Yes, it was a lot! :-)
- Martin
What’s that smoke over there?
-ATC: Fire
Maybe the smoke is what confused the ATIS weather reporting. :-)
- Martin
I seen a forest fire at night from an airplane before at 35,000-37,000 feet, it looked like a ring of yellow on the ground, the middle you couldn't even see because of the smoke.
Terminal A is no longer at KMCI they’re ruining it by making it like every other airport in the US!!!
Andrew, is this an expansion for more capacity, or just a modernization/remodeling program?
I've been at this airport twice; looked like they are not too busy and have plenty of terminal space.
Regards, Martin
This is why I dont trust ASOS/AWOS
Good point, Jeff!
- Martin