IS THE 7800X3D BETTER THAN EVER?! | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Review
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Sponsor
01:34 - 7800X3D Overview and specs
02:50 - Price comparison
03:28 - Test bench
04:00 - Benchmarks
07:25 - Power and thermals
08:02 - Conclusion 
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Ofc the 7800X3D is still good. Even the 5800X3D is still great!😁😆
Yeah this title was made by a dummy lol
Still good? Bro, its gonna be amazing for the next 5 years 😂
5 years? make it 10
@@SamuelPGMehh idk about that lol. That would be a first for a part to make it that long without being outclassed entirely by a faster more cost effective option. I’m sure and is going to make the 3d cache even better over time and will make way more refined and even more efficient versions of this.
@@Rookzs Well, perhaps similar performance cpu:s will be cheaper but does that matter if you already HAVE this one? I'm with him on 10 years - especially as 4k gaming will become standard so cpu will become less important...
Cpu is not problem in gaming,i can say for the next 7 years will be more than enough,but problem will be gpu!
Yea how would it go from the best to not even being good in less than a year
The 7800X3D is a great choice not just for the usually benchmarked games, but for unoptimized games also. Such as Star Citizen or Gray Zone Warfare. Anything that is CPU heavy and RAM intensive.
Insane performance leap over Intel when paired with 6000+ MHz RAM. For Intel 12-14 i7+ Gen to even meet or exceed this CPU, it must be running at its full speed and have at least 8000MHz RAM. Which means running hotter and more expensive RAM that only really recent DDR5 board have XMP support for.
It’s also very low power compared to Intel even with PBO. My room doesn’t heat up as much anymore since switching from a 12700K. Never breaks 115-120W. Even was able to go to a smaller single stack cooler.
Awesome review. Very into details, comparisons, etc, was brilliant.
Tip of the hat to you my good man!
Thank you so much, man, I really appreciate it!
Very happy with my 7950x3d. It's also an efficiency champ. It especially beats other high end 200 watt chips on workloads, but gaming it's almost as efficient as 7800x3d when core parking is on.
have you done anykind of tuning? i saw it getting more fps than 7800x3d when tuned
thanks for the review just put this in my new maingear desktop
How is it with streaming and gaming at the same time?
Any idea what kind of thermals I should be expecting from this chip? I have an air cooler, and currently run around 60 C idling and have spiked up to 91C when playing Helldivers 2. Is this normal?
What is the best motherboard for this chipset? Some people are saying asus boards burn these chips out fast?
Best value mobo for 7800x3d or 7900x?
I'd love to see the 1440p and Ultra settings benchmarks. Even if the difference isn't huge, at least to know the FPS you're getting.
Hi there, great video. I bought a 7 7800X3D for my build and I keep hearing how the basic/quick overclock you can do on the ryzen master is worth it. Any thoughts on doing small overclocks with this tool?
do NOT overclock it. 3d cache is sensitive to overclocking, thats why they lowered its base speed
All you need to do is enable pbo for the cpu and Expo for the ram and just leave it alone.
Using curve optimizer and doing a NEGATIVE -10 or -20 will help it maintain max speed boost longer. Super easy to do and just set it to -10 all core if you don't want to mess with it.
ty as i am putting this in my new build! im so excited i cant wait.
Going to be an amazing system!
i have a 14700K, its also good, it fits my needs
@@nivea878who asked?
Hi Tech Tank! I am currelty on a 3080 10G. What whould you say is a good upgrade CPU Wise? I think 7800x3d is a bit to powerfull for the GPU no?
Depends on the CPU you're coming from, tbh. The 7800X3D might be a little bit overkill, but the 3080 is still a fantastic card to pair with it.
I found one locally new sealed in the box for $320. My 7600x is doing fine and I could wait but we are looking another year till 3D models most likely. I was given a slightly physical damaged x670 board that appears to work just fine so I planned on moving the 7600x over to it either at Zen5 release non 3D or just buy this new 7800X3D for $320.
I am currently looking to upgrade to the 7800X3D from an i7 9700K. I do mainly play games on my system such as simulators (Cities Skylines, Train Sim/OMSI) but I do other work such as editing a few short videos every now and again (which render in like 20 seconds anyway), graphic design on Illustrator/Photoshop and also editing and stacking astrophotography. I currently own a 3080 12gb which I won't be upgrading for a long time.
Does the 7800X3D make sense to upgrade to? Considering I'm basically changing motherboard and CPU anyway, and from reviews I've heard, it seems like a great investment.
I also spoke to someone who had the exact same system as me before with the same use case that I have, and since upgrading they have told me the CPU has been outstanding.
To upgrade to AM4, it would only cost me £436.
To AM5 it costs me £680
To the 14600K it would be £610.
Is the value worth the AM5 system, or have I made the wrong choice?
If you have the budget, a 7950x3D will just be the best of all worlds.
I have a 5800x3D+RTX3080Ti with 32GB 3600MHz RAM and absolutely love this system to bits for gaming, but I have started dabbling in video editing and while editing is perfectly smooth, I found exporting to 4k AV1 with 2+ hours H264/265 videos can take over 12 hours to export in CapCut, while pinning the CPU to 100% of all 16 threads.
So personally, my next upgrade may well be a Ryzen 9 16 core 3D since I really love these 3D CPUs for gaming, especially my older/Indi unoptimized games.
Still, any other lighter all core workload is generally a breeze since people easily forget that it is still an 8 core 16 thread CPU, which are plenty for 99% of all consumer workloads.
Lastly, the 7800x3D is significantly faster than the 5800x3D in all core workloads.
I personally do not recommend Intel's 14600k. It's very power-hungry, and I have found some shenignigans in some very old games with E-Cores enabled.
@@dawienel1142 My budget doesn't stretch that much, but getting the 7800x3d makes an easy upgrade path for that in the future!
Thank you for your insight and comments on both CPUs! It's solidified my choice in getting one 😄
Yeah, it's worth it. I went from i5-9600k to i7-9700k and then a i9-9900k with only small gains. About a month ago I switched to a 7800X3D and it's been amazing!
I just upgraded from a 9900K@5ghz to a 7800X3D about month ago running a 3080TI. There were a small number of recent games like Starfield, BG3 where the old 9900K was slightly bottlenecking the GPU at 3440x1440. I can say most demanding games now run smoother so I am happy. You are also at the GPU limit for that i7 9700K, future GPU upgrades will require a faster CPU. I made the call to upgrade the CPU now and skip the Nvidia 40 series (as it sucks for high end Ampere owners) and look at the 50 series next year, both 3080ti & 3080 12GB are still very capable GPU's.
Hey bro, is that free Avatar campaign still available? Cause I couldn't find where to get it.
Hey man. Unfortunately not, ended in January.
@@TheTechTank Thank you. Great video, btw
Okay here's a question then: So most of the Stability problems and launch problems about the 7800X3D, including the one where the CPU burnt itself to death have been fixed?
If so, if the i7 13700K and the 7800X3D are at the same price which one would You guys recommend? Specially if I don't want to upgrade in 2~3 years? The GPU I bought is the 7900 XTX, I know that I could turn Smart Access Memory with the 7800X3D but I don't know if that would make a noticeable difference at 1440p.
Go for 7800X3D bro no issues. You'll be happy
Most if not all of the early issues have been resolved, most definitely the big ones. As for picking between the two, I like the 13700 because it has more threads which I need for video editing and the like, but the 7800X3D is, and will remain the superior gaming chip. And with the X3D you have a better upgrade path down the road if you do feel the need to upgrade.
no console simulator benchmark?
5800X3D is even more still good... still great I might say
I'm still running a 5800x3D, and it's still running perfectly fine with my 3080ti.
Still an amazing combo, wish I had a 3080 Ti for my 5800X3D system.
So it is ok for the 7800x3d to hit 80 degrees on cinebench? My old cpu never went over 60 degrees so it feels weird. My 7800x3d idles between 45-60 and it is at 60-70 when gaming.
These chips are designed to run that hot (hotter than even that, in fact), so it's normal. You can manually stop the chip from boosting that hard, but generally it's nothing to worry about.
I was getting similar temps with my nhd15. I decided to spread the thermal paste rather than do the pea sized dot method and it lowered the temps quite a bit. Also undervolted it to -20 and it helped even more
I really like how it’s soo easy to keep Cool 😎
Built my first PC with one of these so it has a special place in my mind. That and the 4070ti Super.
How come this CPU doesn’t have spikey pins on the bottom it’s just flat wmd smooth with the little gold marks? Or is that just how this chip is
That's just how it is. AMD's newest chips (and most of Intel's chips for the last 10+ years) don't have the "spiky pins", instead a form of those pins are on the motherboard.
Intel has been using LGA since 2004 so 20 years now :) @@TheTechTank
@@agsel Thanks for the clarification!
Im havin trouble picking between ryzen 7 7800x3d or ryzen 9 7900x for gaming with 4070ti, half the internet says go with the 7900x rest says go with 7800x3d
If you are mostly gaming 7800x3d all day, it has the advantage. The 7900x is still a good gaming CPU, under realistic gaming settings it would be rare to notice a difference.
I have 7800x3d and 4070ti literally have nothing to complain about great setup and runs any game I throw at it at 1440 ultra or very high with usually 144fps the lowest I get is 90 fps and that’s on really intensive games
Yea I’m in the same boat rn I know the 7800x3d is better for gaming but if your getting a good GPU I feel like u mine as well just go for the extra 4 cores. I’m still not sure tho
go for x3d or you regret
Just bought a 3rd local 7800X3D new for $220. Didn't need it but at that price I will sell off some AM4 parts and push down another AM5 into its place.
As an 5 years Ryzen 5 3600 user Build system 1 week before with this CPU and MSI x670 carbon and must say both are fucking beasts.. However both still needs driver updates.. They'll become much more matured in time for sure..
Oh absolutely. Waiting on drivers as we speak to fix some issues with the new 8000G chips for an upcoming review - I'm sure those will drop soon if they haven't already.
The 7800X3D is a bit of a ridiculous chip. I air cool mine and was hitting 85c temps for low-end tasks and somehow shared the same temps even for high-end ones (annoying for fan ramp), so I set -30 to all curves and it actually preforms better (black magic) and has barely hit 70c max since. I'm sure it's just silicon lottery, especially since it's been stable, but I'm just glad it fixed the annoying fan ramp. It was either that or limit fan power and just let it TJMax at its 89c temp.
Undevolting is really good. I've been doing that to my 5800x3D with -30 offset, and it's 100% stable and still boosts to 4.4GHz in all core workload hitting 4.45GHz in games without issue.
Using PBO 2 software with a mamual task setup in task scheduler.
So is the 7900x3d a better buy?
I am building a pc with 7900xtx and i think it would be fun to say “7900x3d and 7900xtx”
They are basically the exact same price right now, and I am building the computer soon. Could I have a quick response from anyone please? Thanks.
Nevermind, I found out that CC only has bundles for 7800x3d. If i bought 7900x3d, it would be $200 more
My problem with 7800x3d is that it is not really a target for VAST majority of consumers - it is almost exclusively for gamers who already have a GPU 3090/4080 and above (because it would not make much sense otherwise, due to CPU being a bottleneck rather than the CPU - with obvious exceptions like Factorio). It is an outstanding CPU, nonetheless.
Oh absolutely not targeted at the average gamer, pricing alone makes no sense for that. Would love to see a mid-range chip with the extra cache.
@@TheTechTankif am5 is anything like am4 down the road, I’d put money on those midrange x3d chips showing up eventually
Just did a build 4080 rog strix 7800x3d escape from tarkov runs great
Literally the DREAM build, congrats!
Best chip ever released for gaming. Just a pure joy to use.
Is this the DDR5 6000 CL30 ram? Team T-Force Delta RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 (PC5 48000) Desktop Memory Model FF3D532G6000HC30DC01
In my test system? That system was running 32GB (2x16) of Geil EVO V.
Bonus: the 7800X3D won't melt because motherboard manufacturers got aggressive with overclocking.
I had 7800x3d but it had so many issues that I down graded to an 12700k, the same cpu I bought when alder lake launched two years ago, and everything is rock solid and perf in wz and bf is very similar. Oh yeah, I also had all the other top tier lga 1700 and am4 CPUs as well but 12700k is all u need if u want to push high fps in fps games.
What issues did you have with it?
@@TheTechTank long boot times, some times it did not manage to boot as it went to the bios screen and in wz the perf would actually be on par with older zen3 CPUs with and GPUs.
@@Pillokun They were common issues in the months around release especially for the likes of Asus, Gigabyte mobo's were a lot better. Since then all those issues have been ironed out with bios updates, but you still need to be careful what ram you use.
Just upgraded boys. i5 6600k and 1070 to 7800x3d and 4070 super.
Holy crap, now that's one of the best upgrades I've seen in a while!
You are fit now good job!💪
😂 Thanks! Work in progress.
in several months will come zen5 cpus and r5 9600x will be something faster in games and more in productivity at around 300$
how is this cpu for premier pro , after effects and blender
The 3D V-cache is completely wasted on most professional applications, so the chip's about as good as any other modern 8-core CPU for that. Haven't had any issues using it for producing my last two videos, but using the 7900 before was smoother.
I guess the lack of a difference in the results at higher resolutions is caused by GPU bottleneck so the CPUs aren’t working to their max
So, if I play 4k or 1440p, Ill keep my 7700x?
If you got a 7700x definitely keep it. No point in upgrading now.
Only reason I ended up with a 7800x3d was because of the $500 microcenter bundle which essentially makes the chip $250, mobo $150 and let's say the ram is $100 because ddr5 ram never goes on sale lol.
I was planning on doing a 7600 build before microcenter dropped that for bundle lol
Unless there is some kind of major breakthrough in cpu engineering, the 7800x3d will probably be good for another 5+ years.
I cant use it with 4 dimm ram at 6000mhz or above speeds😞
why ? Whats your motherboard?
Without watching your video: Yes, they're still good 😂
1. Unless I missed it, (I did go back and check) you didn't mention what GPU you used for testing! I assume it's 6900xt you used for prior videos?
2. Why cl34? it wouldn't have made a huge difference admittedly but could've eked out just a tiny bit more with cl30 ram
Nice video though, not trying to be mean!
No worries! I did mention it while discussing the test system specs, but it was indeed the RX 6900 XT. CL34 because that was the most stable on my system - having some teething issues with R 7000 and DDR5.
7900x3d for 400 euros in my country. You think I should go for it? It's 50 euros apart from 7800x3d
If you can benefit from the additional cores, then absolutely. If not then I'd still consider it, but you could also just put the 50 bucks toward a better cooler or something.
@@TheTechTankThank you for an instant reply. And what about 14700k? It is also priced at 400 euros in my country. 50 bucks isn't an issue for me 😄
@@VT19112 It's a great chip, worked with one myself, but the 7800X3D is better in almost every way, and you'll have a much better upgrade path with Ryzen right now.
Man, a year ago was like 10 years ago.
Fax.
what happened to kyle? his voice changed
You're at least the tenth person to point out that resemblance 😂 Kyle's way more handsome though.
@@TheTechTank 😅😅👌 cheers 🍻
6000mhz CL34 isn’t the best kit to be used, CL30 would definitely give 5% more gains
It's why all 5 of my AM5 builds have been paired with at least CL30 6000MT ram. That extra performance seems a great value when you consider the difference in price is like $10-20 unlike in the past when it was $50-100 more.
I will get a graphics card upgrade and then I will get me the 5800x3d. The 3d parts are real nice.
Whatever card you get is going to pair SO well with the 5800X3D.
@@TheTechTank I figured as much. The 3600 is not doing bad with the 1080-high-qaulity-high-refresh rate gaming. But there is 2 games that refuse to play along. I have a 1660ti now and was thinking the 7800xt will have enough power.
Oh dope, I think my next vid is going to be a review of the 7800 XT, lol. Which games are struggling like that?
@@TheTechTank It's Dartide and Inquisitor Martyr. BL 1-3, Deep Rock Galactic, Overwatch, WoW and even Satisfactory work fine. All of then give me 120Hz with custom high settings.
i went from 14900k + 4070ti to 7800x3d + 7900xtx. i understand the video :))
Lol, fair enough.
For some reasons, just swapped my 7950x for the 7800x3D for gaming purposes and I haven’t seen an improvement and I even suspect I’m having about 2-3% less FPS, mostly play COD
What gpu do you have and also did you reinstall the amd chipset driver?
cant find the chipset driver and my gigabyte control center says its up to date. Had a 7900xtx nitro+ but returned it as it wasnt that much better than my 6950xt OC -Asrock@@Sparksman23
just found a more recent chipset driver on AMD website. will try that thanks@@Sparksman23
1. Nice Video
2. my ryzen 7 5800x hits in Cinebench r23 15039 - 15300 points 😂 I know it hass more Ghz then the 5800x3D
Thanks! Lol, yeah I still miss my 5800X when it comes to Premiere Pro, ngl.
@@TheTechTank The RAM i use ist 4600 MHz xmp1
It’s the best gaming cpu atm
7800x3d is faster on gaming from 14900k this is a insane chip
7800X3D prices are falling, when ZEN 5 V-Cache comes out, it will become the budget CPU.
Really because the 5800X3D has been budget lately? It's been $290-315 for a long time. I bet the 7800X3D will hang around $280-320 while the 9800X3D will be $450 for a good 6months.
Damn bro you lost a lot of weight.
Yessir, 40kg and counting!
I mostly agree, but it is no longer the king just because of what every recent bench and test says, plus the obvious factor that the only reason the 7800X3D ruled the roost originally is because the 7900/7950X3D were held back by software development for directing cores to the correct tasks. 7800X3D gets a pass because it has no spare cores along with no X cores. Once that was solved you started seeing huge improvements almost weekly. Like the last update the 7900/7950 took another healthy 4% push already ahead by 9% on gaming . Today we are looking at 5-15% average across all games, and obviously 50-100% improvment in all the other things thanks to those spare X cores since core productivity scales well. I think you know this because you chose to not include any of it's bigger brothers (7900x, 7900X3D, 7950X, 7950X3D, 13700K, 13900K, 14700K, 14900K) despite them being within 150$ in price. It would have placed the 7800X3D at the bottom of all those charts outside of older or smaller models.
I do think the 7800X3D is awesome, but only if gaming is everything you do, future comfort as most games use 6+ cores at a high level, streaming while gaming isnt super improtant along with all the other programs running to assist in that, and of course doing any workload or side stuff while hoping to get top results in frames while your side stuff is underway. It is the best bang for buck gaming only CPU in existence, but its bigger brothers have taken their throne nicely, and Intel still has the advantage of core clock speeds, RAM clock speeds, and workstations.
I dont mean this to sound negative, just to thank the heavens and remind everyone how awesome of a time it is with so many great chips all within the same basic price range. The difference between a 7800X and a 7950X3D or 13/13900K is like 200$'ish ? Dude the RAM we buy at basic speeds is 300$ alone for 64GB
i thought it was really odd that the 7800x3D could be faster in gaming than a 7900x depite having less cores and lower clocks and thats why i have been highly skeptical of benchmarks because 22mb more of L3 cache shouldnt give the 7800x3d the win. even pc builds suggests that the 7800x3d is a bit slower in cybepunk 2077 than the 7900x and cdprojekt red themselves even reccomend the 7900x over the 7800x3d on ultra settings.
Why would you need 64GB ram for gaming? 32GB is plenty, even 16GB is usable.
@@xpforevergaming8609 no ones talking about ram bub. we are talking about cache.
@@xpforevergaming8609 I can easily soak up more than half of that in most high level games without a problem. Ive used up to 120gb just in games. Not sure what you mean by this or what type of games you are playing ?
The 3600 is still good bud lol
For maybe 80-150fps range.
You using 1 slow intel CPU to compare ? 😂
Because that's the data I had yes. Send me faster ones and I'll test them 🤣
7800X3D fans are coping HARD.
AMDip wasnt good unless you enjoy dips and hiccups 😂
I've actually had slightly more issues with Intel chips over the last few years, lol.
Hi Tech Tank! I am currelty on a 2060 super. What whould you say is a good upgrade CPU Wise? I think 7800x3d is a bit to powerfull for the GPU no? (I play a lot op CPU heavy games)
Hey! You can't really go "too powerful" when it comes to CPUs. It depends on what CPU you're coming from, and what makes sense for your use case and budget what's going to be worth it for you.
@@TheTechTankRight now I have a i5 10400f and a 2060 super with 32gb 2800 ram, all bought 4 years ago
In that case you should see a huge upgrade regardless of your 2060 by going with either of the new generation lineups. Something like a 7700X or the 7800X3D if you're planning a GPU upgrade within the next year or two, or you can go with something like Intel's 13th or 14th gen but then you'll be limited for future upgradability.