Just because a person has experienced racism against themselves does not make them the leading authority on race. She was writing in her role as an MP and that makes her responsible for anything she says or writes while in the role no matter how old, what gender or what colour they are . The fact still remains, she has insulted a great many people by her thoughtlessness either in sending the letter at all or in not having double checked the wording she finally sent given the lack of sensitivity it contained.
didnt know a religion you can convert to was a seperate race. there are black jews, if they are disciminated against because they are jewish its anti semitism, but if the same pesron was discriminated against because of skin colour then its racist. or has every news story stating this for past 70 years been incorrect?
She DOES get a great deal of racist abuse. Even from people within her own party. Criticism for her opinions is entirely a different thing and she and others can tell the difference.
@@jujutrini8412 I think a lot of the critique coming her way is based on the sum total of entirely ignorant things she has said, rather than what is merely in this recent example.
She was right but yet again she's being judged by white people who actually started racism, now playing judge and jury at the same time. In that regard not one of you will agree with her for obvious reasons.
How on earth can someone 'disassociate' oneself from what they themselves have written? That's her problem; she's abused because of her stupidity and sense of entitlement.
No offence but as a Jewish person myself I agree with Dianne Abbott. Judaism is not my race, it is my faith. So if someone discriminates against me because I am Jewish that is not racism, because being Jewish is not my race, it is my religion. If you discriminate against a catholic, thats not racism either. As Dianne said, it is prejudice not racism. I edited this comment because previously I questioned Dianne Abbotts judgement but after reading her article I don't think theres much wrong with what she said.
@@redhot663 it was not just the Jewish she was talking about. It was the Irish aswell and depending how you see race many class themselves as white Irish, white scottish etc. You can't lump the whole white race as one. For hundreds of years and as recent as the 1920's white Irish were not seen as the same race as other white's There is alot of complexities. Also the nazi never lumped all whites as the same race, you could have white skin but very brown eyes and you would be seen as lower class (not pure, none aryan race) compared to someone with blue eyes and blonde hair (the aryan race, pure blood) Again is very complex. And I don't think you can comment for the Irish by saying she was "factually correct".
@@dear6341 White is NOT an ethnicity. Celtic is an ethnicity but “white” does not exist as an “ethnicity” in the real World,either does “brown” or “black”. Skintones are NOT ethnicities brother! ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏻✊🏾✊🏿
@@socillizt4life Look, to me the issue is simple. It can be boiled down to this: Racism is an appalling thing, so do not cheapen or devalue the term. To do so, makes you almost as bad as the abusers. This was the point that Abbott was making, and she is right.
@@dear6341 You are right in saying that the Nazis did not consider 'white' as one 'race.' But my response would be that you should not be dealing in the same currency as the Nazis. The Irish are not a race. I am Welsh, and we are not a race either. We might (depending on where we are) be an 'ethnic minority' but a 'race' we certainly are not. Neither are the Scots, neither are the Cornish, neither are the Celts as a whole or that matter. In short, don't follow the Nazi's lead: That is a bad example to follow.
@Darth Pepe Other than a few Irish jokes, the Irish have never suffered racism and Prejudice. But they have suffered oppression, especially in the 1840s, when the Liberal government allowed 1million Irish women men and children starve to death and it was easily avoidable
we are all a race as in human race only she thinks hers is the only world victims she and others who keep throwing the race card are blinkered by what has happened to others in all countries even Britain has lost thousands fighting for freedom but no let them feel sorry for what happened decades ago and look into what their own race have done with genocides and still happening
@@roslyn9647 if your problem is that it’s not technically a race but an ethnicity, then you’re arguing over nothing. Its the same effect whether you calm to be prejudiced against someone’s race or ethnicity. Can you honestly tell me the differences between ethnicity and race? It’s all subjective anyway. The fact of the matter is she tried to belittle their experiences by saying it’s not as bad basically
This kinda proves her point in a roundabout way. Her poorly worded point was that there is a hierarchy of racism. The fact you’ve only mentioned Jews here when her awful letter also mentioned other races
It don’t prove her point at all she’s just a racist bitch herself totally against whites, get used to it we’re 80per cent white here sorry (well not sorry at all)
About time this Bigot was removed. I remember her racist criticism of Scandanavian nurses employed by the NHS: "we have far too many blonde-haired, blue-eyed nurses" Why are some people's problems with prejudice worse than others? I would like to see people like Dianne Abbott explain to the families of youngsters who have taken their own lives as a result of being picked on, by members of their own race, that somehow that is not as serious as her experiences.
Funny that Scotland's GOT A Highly RACIST Fake FM TOO MANY WHITES IN Scotland SNP Plonker & Convicted Criminal ,along with USURPER. TO GO WITH THE OTHER 2 all we need is Wales to get the matching set of them.
Remember when she said "carribean mothers would go to the wall for their children" and refused to clarify on record that mothers of other races would do the same lol she's a nutty racist
No offence but as a Jewish person myself I agree with Dianne Abbott. Judaism is not my race, it is my faith. So if someone discriminates against me because I am Jewish that is not racism, because being Jewish is not my race, it is my religion. If you discriminate against a catholic, thats not racism either. As Dianne said, it is prejudice not racism. I edited this comment because previously I questioned Dianne Abbotts judgement but after reading her article I don't think theres much wrong with what she said.
FINALLY someone who grasps nuance and context and semantics. Thank you. I read her whole statement, in the context of the original Guardian piece. She essentially made the distinctions between members of the Jewish and Irish and Traveler communities PASSING in various stages of their lives so as not be be effected daily by customary and systematic racism. She didn't say "no Irish, Jewish, Traveler has ever experienced racism. She made the distinction that whatever discrimination/prejudice Irish people felt in America, they never were put in the back of the bus as a matter of law. She said, whatever discrimination/prejudice Jewish people felt in S Africa, they were still allowed to vote. Both of those are facts.
@@dipthongthathongthongthong9691 Pretty sure blacks in America were never rounded up and sent to extermination camps but yeah they definitely didn't get an easy time of it.
No offence, but as a jew myself I would ask you one question: Draw a jew. Doesnt matter if you are artistic, draw a jew. Still think there arent racial similarities? Yes its a faith, but it''s primarily a race. You could be a racial jew, who is now a catholic, but when the jew hunters come, you will be identified as a jew. Lets take some well known people: Larry David, David Schwimmer, Woody Allen, they dont walk about in black, are they jews? Do they look Jewish? Still think it isnt a race?
@redhot663 it was not just the Jewish she was talking about. It was the Irish aswell and depending how you see race many class themselves as white Irish, white scottish etc. You can't lump the whole white race as one. For hundreds of years and as recent as the 1920's white Irish were not seen as the same race as other white's There is alot of complexities. Also the nazi never lumped all whites as the same race, you could have white skin but very brown eyes and you would be seen as lower class (not pure, none aryan race) compared to someone with blue eyes and blonde hair (the aryan race, pure blood) Again is very complex. And I don't think you can comment for the Irish by saying she was "factually correct"
@@jakebeatstheworld Does Natalie Portman look Jewish? How about Joaquin Phoenix, or Daniel Day Lewis? Who looks more Jewish, Scarlett Johansson or a family of "Falasha" Jews? If you want to unpack this you need to be prepared to unpack all of it and deal with the intersectionality that Abbott is rightly referencing in her comments, which is related to a hierarchy discrimination.
She is not wrong about this. She is right about this. There is a difference between racism based on one's colour and prejudice based on one's religion, culture, or ethnicity. Instead of attempting to understand what she is saying. We have once again made it all about antisemitism. There is a hierarchy of racism in the media and the Labour party.
@@DrowzOnly That was probably the stupidest thing I’ve read on the internet in the last week. Do you have any idea how far back antisemitism goes (much more than 300 years). Do you know anything about how the Nazis racially profiled Jews? I’m almost weeping in amazement at your ignorance. Sort it out.
@@DrowzOnly It is very obvious what Diane Abbot was referring to but she made the mistake on not specifying that she was talking about skin color. Unfortunately for her she should know in her long career working in this system where if you bring up slavery or colonialism you are told to move on or it was in the past but try saying that to the Jewish Community out loud. She will be shot down very harshly by those waiting for these types of opportunities to try and balance out their deep sense of guilt. If you don't learn you will feel
@@Anythinggoes-1999 Whats the point of being a martyr when a certain ethnic group comes for your job and livelihood? Mr Tom Knebelbaum I ask for answer here :)
I'm black and she was wrong If we can get on the royals we can get on her about the jews. We need to stop talking about peoples skin color and race.😮😮😮😮😢😢
Rule number 1. Never ever draw comparisons as an educator, Inventor, MP when you're delivering a fundamental point of reference. Only a village idiot would make that mistake.
@@sylvesterdefoeit s not that obvious coz of the colour. But WG has no clue. Jews were living in GHETTOS for centuries and thts in fact, where the word GHETTO comes from. These ppl have no education at all or on anything and just blab! It s not only colour ...racism and you cnt ignore the past! And thts why it makes it racist!
so an ideology or religion such as judism that anyone can convert to is a race now? in every news story youve ever seen where theres discrimination against jews has it EVER been called racism? no its called anti semitism. now peole are changing definitions to ruin someones career. why bother have 2 defintions then?
Diana suffered grave abuse but nothing ever happened to her abusers at all. Black people are expected to soak it up, get over it and move on. What a fair world we are living in.😢
why is she absolutely wrong about this? its just a pragmatic statement that is factually true. Black people cannot escape their colour and are therefore far more subject to racism that Jews who can go undetected because it is nothing more than a religion, not an ethnicity. What the hell is going on, when i saw the news about Abbot it seemed as if she had gone on some dissing rant, she has done nothing.
I saw a video of a group of young Jewish guys cursing at & spitting in the Direction of 2 Christian NUNS in ISRAEL on You Tube 3/4 days ago. Until THE JEWS stop this , nothing's going to change, Catholic/Protestant Football Matches often ended up in pitched Battles in the 60/70s as i grew up. Idiot's NOW A DAYS WOULD CALL IT RACIST as their education is that CRAP
@@Cherokee-q4b You cannot name a historical ignorant practice and somehow assume you are making a legitimate argument, people have for centuries simply accepted that if you are born to Jewish parents (or Christian or Muslim) then you are automatically that religion. That is core of the problem because thats quite pathetic and honestly stupid, religion has no affiliation to the body or mind other than that which we impose over the mind and body. Religion does not show up in genetics, it is an attachment that humans have attached, and so the sheer fact that you can choose to be or not to be something, means it cannot be compared to something you don't get a choice about. I'm born to Muslim parents, both of which are not actual practicing Muslims, I am not a Muslim and I refuse to be identified as Muslim, I do not appreciate the backward mentality and regulations that come with Islam, and if I did I would totally understand why people judged me based on the contents of my religion that I have signed up to. I'm not saying that that would give people the right to discriminate against me, but it certainly gives them the right to have a pre-judgement on what type of person I am. The fact that so many people choose to remain in a religion and identify as that religion even when they have no real affiliation to it other than birth inheritance, should not distort things, and people should begin actually deciding what they are, that way when people do judge someone for being a jew or a muslim or a sun god believer, they will judge them based on the contents of the religion they have signed up for, which is PERFECTLY fine. The only reason it becomes unfair that someone is judged for being a Jew is the fact that millions of Jews are Jews by name and that is their problem, not everyone elses
She said during the height of slavery (assuming she’s referring to the Atlantic slave trade era) white people weren’t put on ships as slaves… The Barbary slave trade enslaved more than 1 million whites from European and put them in North African at the time… To put it in perspective, that’s more white slaves in North Africa than all black slaves in North America
@@davidshepherd8917 and so if it boils down to historical facts then this has nothing to do with racism and can simply be corrected. She is not a racist simply because she gets her facts wrong, don’t get me wrong, I do not appreciate the “im the ultimate victim” card which is witnessed far too much in public life today. There seems to be a competition over who has had it the worst which is stupid. I am Syrian and I can easily play that card, but i find it demeaning and cheap, Jews have been persecuted, thats not allowed anymore full stop, blacks were slaves thats not allowed anymore full stop. The political correctness of not being able to move beyond these historical events is shortsighted, we teach a black or jewish or Syrian child today that they must always identify as victims, no thank you, my daughters only learn about the tragedy of being Syrian in a historical context, they are not allowed to build hatred to the sons and daughters of those who committed crimes against us, and thats how things should be. All this talk of reparations and ongoing guilt trips are a joke that should not be taken seriously, not the slightest.
1960 we was called chalkey and white honkey a lad in my class lived in a caravan he was called tinkerboy we never got an apology Harold Wilson never condemned it in parliament
the whole thing is a massive cope to defend Diane. Never liked her as a person. I remember seeing someone once debate her and her reply was "you disagree because im black. Its because im black." The other woman was arguing figures and facts but Diane just kept yelling over her "its because im black. Its because im black." I HATE people like that. Then you got these 3. "Oh racist will be happy, Diane is the most racially abused victim." This whole thing has been a massive mask off for the racist Diane. Its about time she got called out for the double standards and abusiveness she displays.
Take any aspect of racism out of this ,and what she has proven yet again, is that her judgement is so off target as to be bizzare.I am reminded of the interview by Nick Ferrari about her stance on recruiting more police.Very amusing but rather tragic that an experienced MP can make such a fool of themselves.She is not fit to be an MP.Add this latest debacle,and I think she must go.
Come on Honesty is needed, after all the blunders this women has done in the past she would have been sacked years ago. Why she wasn't is simple, and its probably the same reason she wont be sacked now this is because she is black and she will be given the chance to leave.
Politicians and broadcaster's used the term antivaxxer whilst discriminating against the people they targeted with that slur. The same people who hypocritically now condemn Abbot.
Its soooooooo obvious and has been this way for ages, you either see it and follow along or see it and reject it for what it is, a lie. She pushed her views on whites for ages but now she steps on the wrong ppl then she gets cancelled and the media squirm cause they are all in on it.
Let us all calm down and be fair! I am neither for or against Diane Abbott, but I do believe that Keir Starmer made an even bigger insult to the entire country when he declared that he didn't know what a woman was. So why didn't he remove himself from being the Labour party leader before the next election, and refrain from his double standards and hypocrisy?
Yes, but we live in a time when illiteracy is high and staring at screens stunts critical thinking skills and people have no understanding of nuance and the game is just to p[lay "gotcha" in the virtual public square. Racism, discrimination, prejudice, bigotry might be branch of the same tree. But there are distinctions to be made. However, goofy and maladroit Abbotts comments might have been, she never said anything close to "Jews never have experienced "racism"..."
I think abbott was trying to say, being jewish is not nessecerily visable so doesnt ghet constant racism, but black people cant take theire skin off when they want a break.
I don't believe she is anti semitic. This is more a case of ignorance and stupidly. She is focused on her own abuse (and I do think that is justified), but at the same she can't see, or is unable to see the racial abuse of others. Racism is all encompassing,. Its not simply racism towards Black people that is wrong, but being anti semitic or anti white is just as evil. The issue that should be addressed is racism itself.
That is her opinion and it matters . If she has been facing racism she is speaking from experince. I live in Belgium and jews are white they do not face racism only black people and people of arabic decent do
You don’t know what racism means. You’re ignorant And open a book, I think you’ll find Jewish people in Belgium were victims of racism not even a lifetime ago
She is right. It's incredibly disrespectful that white people are trying to tell a Black woman what racism is and isn't. If you have a white or light coloured skin you do not experience racism in the same ways as people who have dark coloured skin. I am from a Jewish background, and have white skin. I have experienced prejudice due to coming to Britain from a different country, but I have never experienced racism. I remember talking with a Black British woman about our experiences, saying that I have experienced prejudice the minute I open my mouth, and her response was that I should try experiencing racism the second people see me. That's what Diane Abbott meant. This is just part of Starmer's hunt to get rid of the Left from Labour by using trumped-up slurs against popular, long-serving MPs. He should have more courage and say what he really means instead of starting a media storm and then hiding.
Jews are funny On one hand Jews perpetuate the idea that whites are evil, can’t be victims of racism, control institutional power. They claim when convenient to be “fellow whites” and only a different religion but otherwise “the same” But as soon as you apply the same critical race theory to the Jews which push it saying Jews can’t be victims of racism, holocaust wasn’t racist it was just religious intolerance, they have institutional power they freak out and claim to be a victimised racial minority and not merely a religion and that the critical race theory rules don’t apply to them they are exempt. Funny
As a white person i by definition can’t be antisemitic even if I hate Jews as white people don’t have the institutional power, money and organisation they do. If you compare wealth, academic professions etc. They are total hypocrites fine They claim Apartheid is “evil” in South Africa but totally fine when they do apartheid in Israel. “Gradually I began to hate them”-Hitler
She was describing, perhaps rather clumsily, the difference between racism and prejudice. I agree with her but she could have worded it better. Prejudice takes many forms, while racial prejudice is possible so is religious prejudice and cultural prejudice. She should have said: All racism is prejudice but not all prejudice is racism. As a white Irish Catholic raised mostly in Scotland, I can tell you that when I experienced abuse and stereotypes growing up because of my Irish name and Catholic background... It wasn't because I was a different race from the people doing the abusing. I didn't experience "racism" though the small minded people often had some abuse based on race they would direct at people with a different skin colour to their own... Different eye shape to their own... That was racism... That I have experienced, just a little, when living in Vietnam.
@@johnnicol64 you are making the mistake in not understanding the meaning of words and why it's important that we have different words for different things. All racism is prejudice... Not all prejudice is racism.
Apparently years racism and misogyny *should* make her sympathetic. So she couldn't possibly feel jaded? desensitised? Possibly all of these at once. 🙄
@@roslyn9647 So, the hard truth is that people descended from slaves are racists. Well, if you say so. Who am I to argue. The Jewish people are a race. Look it up. Clue = Semites.
@darthpepe2994yes look at Boris Johnson who rose up the ranks expeditiously, despite describing black people as “pickninnies with watermelon smiles” - if this was a comment made about the Jewish community, he would not be anywhere near the Houses of Parliament. People have already forgotten about Andrew Edwards and his comments about how black people should be kept as slaves.
Were you born yesterday or something?? Someone from Buckingham palace literally got fired for asking ‘where are you from’ because she wasn’t sure if a black woman was an African delegate
2 words not to say in a sentence Jewish and Trans... you get cancelled immediately! I thought Jewish is a religion not a race, because you get black Jewish people too?
@Mark S I’m pretty sure real Jews are ethnically Middle Eastern origin not black. If Jews originated from blacks why didn’t they return to Africa. Jerusalem is in the Middle East.
when did Jewish become a race? I know it is a religion and also an ethnicity, Israeli being the Nationality. I wonder, would it even be possible to come out with the characteristics of the "Jewish race" without being called racist?
I think you’re probably right. However, their suffering was more recent than slavery and more directly murderous. Therefore, establishing a hierarchy of oppression, whereby only racism directed at blacks is taken seriously, is extremely misguided.
Just In America alone, the jews are 2.7 times more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than a black person. I'm guessing diane is privy to those statistics, but chooses to ignore it.
@@davidshepherd8917 which Ethnic group does Jewish belong to under UK law? in the 2021 census, Jewish isn't recognised as an ethnic group. you the choice of; Asian or Asian British Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi Chinese Any other Asian background Black, Black British, Caribbean or African Caribbean African Any other Black, Black British, or Caribbean background Mixed or multiple ethnic groups White and Black Caribbean White and Black African White and Asian Any other Mixed or multiple ethnic background White English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British Irish Gypsy or Irish Traveller Roma Any other White background Other ethnic group Arab Any other ethnic group it would seem that Jewish isn't a race or a recognised ethnic group in the UK. or would Jewish be "any other ethnic group"? I know that in Nazi Germany Jewish people were considered an inferior race, I really don't know of another nation that considers a class of people of a specific religion a race.
The fact that she was Britain's first black female MP and experiences the "most" racism doesn't excuse what she said. If anything, one would expect her to be more sympathetic to other ethnic minorities who have experienced similar racism like Kevin says, but this is the problem with Diane Abbott, she doesn't think things through and has adopted the American "BLM" ideology.
She’s spoke her mind a few times, but they like to protect her. The reason she experiences so much racism is because she’s a racist and gets upset when it’s dished back.
Diane Abbott's letter _The Observer_ 23 April 2023 Racism is black and white Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable. It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships. Diane Abbott House of Commons, London SW1
She did a lot of good in her community, so I'm not going to listen to the media with the attack against her. Stay strong Diane Abbott we know you're a good person ❤️
She's not wrong. Had there been cameras in the height of chattel slavery like the ones that captured the atrocities of the Holocaust, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Seems people really do believe "pics or it didn't happen".
What she obviously meant was. Jewish British and Irish people are all ethnically Caucasian so discrimination between them is not racism because they are the same race.. prejudice would be the right word!
the belief that *different races* possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
The term 'prat' isn't used enough in this country anymore, but rest assured.. Abbott is a prat
Just because a person has experienced racism against themselves does not make them the leading authority on race. She was writing in her role as an MP and that makes her responsible for anything she says or writes while in the role no matter how old, what gender or what colour they are . The fact still remains, she has insulted a great many people by her thoughtlessness either in sending the letter at all or in not having double checked the wording she finally sent given the lack of sensitivity it contained.
Grow a spine
Well said. 🌱
Jews can’t be victims of racism since they have the institutional power
didnt know a religion you can convert to was a seperate race. there are black jews, if they are disciminated against because they are jewish its anti semitism, but if the same pesron was discriminated against because of skin colour then its racist. or has every news story stating this for past 70 years been incorrect?
@@deeplaysgaming4754 you can’t convert to Judaism as a non Jew. It’s not just a religion but also a race
Does she suffer that much racism ? or is it simply criticism for her terrible views and her immense ignorance?
I imagine, sadly, that she and a lot of others would deliberately seek to conflate those things.
Did Diane suffer racism? Hmmm!
She DOES get a great deal of racist abuse. Even from people within her own party. Criticism for her opinions is entirely a different thing and she and others can tell the difference.
@@jujutrini8412 I think a lot of the critique coming her way is based on the sum total of entirely ignorant things she has said, rather than what is merely in this recent example.
@@jujutrini8412 by other black people because if it was by whites they would have been sacked and jailed.
Disassociating herself from something that she herself wrote sums Diane Abbott up perfectly.
Diane Abbotts colour has nothing to do with what makes her an fool !!!!
It's does unfortunately 😂
LOL Suzanne was about to say she felt sorry for Abbott, but managed to stop herself just in time.
She was right but yet again she's being judged by white people who actually started racism, now playing judge and jury at the same time. In that regard not one of you will agree with her for obvious reasons.
And you can be sure she would have felt sorry for her too… really tough one for Labour supporting GMT this.
Didn't want to get cancelled.
Lols...
I got that impression as well.
What about the Irish people it’s not only Jewish people.Peace to all 🇮🇪🇮🇪🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌎
We're not a race
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They mentioned gypsies straight away on this program!
@@boliussa they did indeed and they're a race.
And white people. She’s hated on whites for years and got away with it
How on earth can someone 'disassociate' oneself from what they themselves have written? That's her problem; she's abused because of her stupidity and sense of entitlement.
No offence but as a Jewish person myself I agree with Dianne Abbott. Judaism is not my race, it is my faith. So if someone discriminates against me because I am Jewish that is not racism, because being Jewish is not my race, it is my religion. If you discriminate against a catholic, thats not racism either. As Dianne said, it is prejudice not racism.
I edited this comment because previously I questioned Dianne Abbotts judgement but after reading her article I don't think theres much wrong with what she said.
@@redhot663 it was not just the Jewish she was talking about. It was the Irish aswell and depending how you see race many class themselves as white Irish, white scottish etc. You can't lump the whole white race as one. For hundreds of years and as recent as the 1920's white Irish were not seen as the same race as other white's There is alot of complexities. Also the nazi never lumped all whites as the same race, you could have white skin but very brown eyes and you would be seen as lower class (not pure, none aryan race) compared to someone with blue eyes and blonde hair (the aryan race, pure blood) Again is very complex. And I don't think you can comment for the Irish by saying she was "factually correct".
@@dear6341 White is NOT an ethnicity. Celtic is an ethnicity but “white” does not exist as an “ethnicity” in the real World,either does “brown” or “black”. Skintones are NOT ethnicities brother! ✊🏼✊🏽✊🏻✊🏾✊🏿
@@socillizt4life Look, to me the issue is simple. It can be boiled down to this: Racism is an appalling thing, so do not cheapen or devalue the term. To do so, makes you almost as bad as the abusers. This was the point that Abbott was making, and she is right.
@@dear6341 You are right in saying that the Nazis did not consider 'white' as one 'race.' But my response would be that you should not be dealing in the same currency as the Nazis.
The Irish are not a race. I am Welsh, and we are not a race either. We might (depending on where we are) be an 'ethnic minority' but a 'race' we certainly are not. Neither are the Scots, neither are the Cornish, neither are the Celts as a whole or that matter.
In short, don't follow the Nazi's lead: That is a bad example to follow.
Anxiously and obsessively needing victim status is one thing, but trying to deny that anybody else has ever been victimised is literally insane.
Like Palestinians
@Darth Pepe Other than a few Irish jokes, the Irish have never suffered racism and Prejudice.
But they have suffered oppression, especially in the 1840s, when the Liberal government allowed 1million Irish women men and children starve to death and it was easily avoidable
we are all a race as in human race only she thinks hers is the only world victims she and others who keep throwing the race card are blinkered by what has happened to others in all countries even Britain has lost thousands fighting for freedom but no let them feel sorry for what happened decades ago and look into what their own race have done with genocides and still happening
Who is anxiously and obsessively needing victim status?
@@roslyn9647 if your problem is that it’s not technically a race but an ethnicity, then you’re arguing over nothing. Its the same effect whether you calm to be prejudiced against someone’s race or ethnicity. Can you honestly tell me the differences between ethnicity and race? It’s all subjective anyway. The fact of the matter is she tried to belittle their experiences by saying it’s not as bad basically
This kinda proves her point in a roundabout way. Her poorly worded point was that there is a hierarchy of racism. The fact you’ve only mentioned Jews here when her awful letter also mentioned other races
they ALWAYS prove our point with how they treat Jewish discrimination compared to other groups. Jews have a special protected status.
Travellers Irish were mentioned several times. Rewatch the piece .
It don’t prove her point at all she’s just a racist bitch herself totally against whites, get used to it we’re 80per cent white here sorry (well not sorry at all)
She never mentioned the white victims of non white rapists
100%
About time this Bigot was removed. I remember her racist criticism of Scandanavian nurses employed by the NHS: "we have far too many blonde-haired, blue-eyed nurses"
Why are some people's problems with prejudice worse than others? I would like to see people like Dianne Abbott explain to the families of youngsters who have taken their own lives as a result of being picked on, by members of their own race, that somehow that is not as serious as her experiences.
Funny that Scotland's GOT A Highly RACIST Fake FM TOO MANY WHITES IN Scotland SNP Plonker & Convicted Criminal ,along with USURPER. TO GO WITH THE OTHER 2 all we need is Wales to get the matching set of them.
well said
Remember when she said "carribean mothers would go to the wall for their children" and refused to clarify on record that mothers of other races would do the same lol she's a nutty racist
Exactly. She has been spouting anti white rhetoric for year's.
@@TheRetroManRandySavage and how many white people have been murdered as a result?
No offence but as a Jewish person myself I agree with Dianne Abbott. Judaism is not my race, it is my faith. So if someone discriminates against me because I am Jewish that is not racism, because being Jewish is not my race, it is my religion. If you discriminate against a catholic, thats not racism either. As Dianne said, it is prejudice not racism.
I edited this comment because previously I questioned Dianne Abbotts judgement but after reading her article I don't think theres much wrong with what she said.
FINALLY someone who grasps nuance and context and semantics. Thank you. I read her whole statement, in the context of the original Guardian piece. She essentially made the distinctions between members of the Jewish and Irish and Traveler communities PASSING in various stages of their lives so as not be be effected daily by customary and systematic racism. She didn't say "no Irish, Jewish, Traveler has ever experienced racism. She made the distinction that whatever discrimination/prejudice Irish people felt in America, they never were put in the back of the bus as a matter of law. She said, whatever discrimination/prejudice Jewish people felt in S Africa, they were still allowed to vote. Both of those are facts.
@@dipthongthathongthongthong9691 Pretty sure blacks in America were never rounded up and sent to extermination camps but yeah they definitely didn't get an easy time of it.
No offence, but as a jew myself I would ask you one question: Draw a jew. Doesnt matter if you are artistic, draw a jew. Still think there arent racial similarities? Yes its a faith, but it''s primarily a race. You could be a racial jew, who is now a catholic, but when the jew hunters come, you will be identified as a jew. Lets take some well known people: Larry David, David Schwimmer, Woody Allen, they dont walk about in black, are they jews? Do they look Jewish? Still think it isnt a race?
@redhot663 it was not just the Jewish she was talking about. It was the Irish aswell and depending how you see race many class themselves as white Irish, white scottish etc. You can't lump the whole white race as one. For hundreds of years and as recent as the 1920's white Irish were not seen as the same race as other white's There is alot of complexities. Also the nazi never lumped all whites as the same race, you could have white skin but very brown eyes and you would be seen as lower class (not pure, none aryan race) compared to someone with blue eyes and blonde hair (the aryan race, pure blood) Again is very complex. And I don't think you can comment for the Irish by saying she was "factually correct"
@@jakebeatstheworld Does Natalie Portman look Jewish? How about Joaquin Phoenix, or Daniel Day Lewis? Who looks more Jewish, Scarlett Johansson or a family of "Falasha" Jews? If you want to unpack this you need to be prepared to unpack all of it and deal with the intersectionality that Abbott is rightly referencing in her comments, which is related to a hierarchy discrimination.
She is not wrong about this. She is right about this. There is a difference between racism based on one's colour and prejudice based on one's religion, culture, or ethnicity. Instead of attempting to understand what she is saying. We have once again made it all about antisemitism. There is a hierarchy of racism in the media and the Labour party.
So what’s the difference between colour and ethnicity for the purpose of your point?
@@DrowzOnly That was probably the stupidest thing I’ve read on the internet in the last week. Do you have any idea how far back antisemitism goes (much more than 300 years). Do you know anything about how the Nazis racially profiled Jews? I’m almost weeping in amazement at your ignorance. Sort it out.
@@BNconductor you can share the same ethnicity but different skin color would you agree?
@@DrowzOnly It is very obvious what Diane Abbot was referring to but she made the mistake on not specifying that she was talking about skin color. Unfortunately for her she should know in her long career working in this system where if you bring up slavery or colonialism you are told to move on or it was in the past but try saying that to the Jewish Community out loud. She will be shot down very harshly by those waiting for these types of opportunities to try and balance out their deep sense of guilt. If you don't learn you will feel
@@BNconductor Ethnicity is cultural, race is genetics.
Diane Abbott the gift that keeps on giving😂
As wise as she is beautiful.
@@scousiered3124 😂😂😂
😂😂
This was the first good thing she did
She's certainly a gift to the tories
I don’t think Diane Abbot could get away with her views in Germany or Poland.
How many black colonies did they control until the 1960s and take their people as slaves to the cotton fields ? 😅
Only a racist would say they experience racism but not other people 🤣🤦♂️
Just like a lot of Politicians today Abbott says it then expects everyone to accept an apology but she’s already by then said what she wants/means
She’s spot on
@@antireggisser9126 yet another one who hides behind a pseudonym and frightened of saying who they are …. We call them cowards
She's right though
Only way to get it out there and hit the headlines. 😅
@@Anythinggoes-1999 Whats the point of being a martyr when a certain ethnic group comes for your job and livelihood? Mr Tom Knebelbaum I ask for answer here :)
I'm black and she was wrong
If we can get on the royals we can get on her about the jews. We need to stop talking about peoples skin color and race.😮😮😮😮😢😢
Rule number 1. Never ever draw comparisons as an educator, Inventor, MP when you're delivering a fundamental point of reference. Only a village idiot would make that mistake.
@@roslyn9647 You have failed to interpret what I'm saying. Get someone to explain it to you.
She's been watching and listening to too much of Woopy Goldberg, she said exactly the same thing.
Hmmmm, black people saying the same thing...I wonder if they're trying to make a point that no one seems willing to listen to?
And they didn't screw that annoying WG. Wonder why...
@@sylvesterdefoeit s not that obvious coz of the colour. But WG has no clue. Jews were living in GHETTOS for centuries and thts in fact, where the word GHETTO comes from. These ppl have no education at all or on anything and just blab! It s not only colour ...racism and you cnt ignore the past! And thts why it makes it racist!
You have a true logic
Can you do this again where you don't all talk over each other so we know wtf is said
Others have lost their jobs for less.
Saying sorry seems to cure everything these days,do the panel always believe what they say or are they scared of losing their jobs
you would lose your job
so an ideology or religion such as judism that anyone can convert to is a race now? in every news story youve ever seen where theres discrimination against jews has it EVER been called racism? no its called anti semitism. now peole are changing definitions to ruin someones career. why bother have 2 defintions then?
Oh dear Dianne, looks like you’ve put your foot in it again, that would be the right foot with the left shoe on lol.
NOTHING NEW FOR LABOUR PARTY.
Labour's mathematician and leading light Diane Abbott will stay put. There is no depth to which Labour can go!
Bet she didn't calculate that move.
😂
Probably not lol...
She deserves to be fired for a start.
Did not David Baddiel say something almost identical to D.A about Jews e.g being Jewish is a religion, not a race...
Interesting.
Britain's first female black racist MP.
Diana suffered grave abuse but nothing ever happened to her abusers at all. Black people are expected to soak it up, get over it and move on. What a fair world we are living in.😢
why is she absolutely wrong about this? its just a pragmatic statement that is factually true. Black people cannot escape their colour and are therefore far more subject to racism that Jews who can go undetected because it is nothing more than a religion, not an ethnicity.
What the hell is going on, when i saw the news about Abbot it seemed as if she had gone on some dissing rant, she has done nothing.
I saw a video of a group of young Jewish guys cursing at & spitting in the Direction of 2 Christian NUNS in ISRAEL on You Tube 3/4 days ago. Until THE JEWS stop this , nothing's going to change, Catholic/Protestant Football Matches often ended up in pitched Battles in the 60/70s as i grew up. Idiot's NOW A DAYS WOULD CALL IT RACIST as their education is that CRAP
@@Cherokee-q4b You cannot name a historical ignorant practice and somehow assume you are making a legitimate argument, people have for centuries simply accepted that if you are born to Jewish parents (or Christian or Muslim) then you are automatically that religion. That is core of the problem because thats quite pathetic and honestly stupid, religion has no affiliation to the body or mind other than that which we impose over the mind and body. Religion does not show up in genetics, it is an attachment that humans have attached, and so the sheer fact that you can choose to be or not to be something, means it cannot be compared to something you don't get a choice about.
I'm born to Muslim parents, both of which are not actual practicing Muslims, I am not a Muslim and I refuse to be identified as Muslim, I do not appreciate the backward mentality and regulations that come with Islam, and if I did I would totally understand why people judged me based on the contents of my religion that I have signed up to. I'm not saying that that would give people the right to discriminate against me, but it certainly gives them the right to have a pre-judgement on what type of person I am.
The fact that so many people choose to remain in a religion and identify as that religion even when they have no real affiliation to it other than birth inheritance, should not distort things, and people should begin actually deciding what they are, that way when people do judge someone for being a jew or a muslim or a sun god believer, they will judge them based on the contents of the religion they have signed up for, which is PERFECTLY fine.
The only reason it becomes unfair that someone is judged for being a Jew is the fact that millions of Jews are Jews by name and that is their problem, not everyone elses
She said during the height of slavery (assuming she’s referring to the Atlantic slave trade era) white people weren’t put on ships as slaves…
The Barbary slave trade enslaved more than 1 million whites from European and put them in North African at the time…
To put it in perspective, that’s more white slaves in North Africa than all black slaves in North America
@@davidshepherd8917 and so if it boils down to historical facts then this has nothing to do with racism and can simply be corrected. She is not a racist simply because she gets her facts wrong, don’t get me wrong, I do not appreciate the “im the ultimate victim” card which is witnessed far too much in public life today. There seems to be a competition over who has had it the worst which is stupid. I am Syrian and I can easily play that card, but i find it demeaning and cheap, Jews have been persecuted, thats not allowed anymore full stop, blacks were slaves thats not allowed anymore full stop. The political correctness of not being able to move beyond these historical events is shortsighted, we teach a black or jewish or Syrian child today that they must always identify as victims, no thank you, my daughters only learn about the tragedy of being Syrian in a historical context, they are not allowed to build hatred to the sons and daughters of those who committed crimes against us, and thats how things should be.
All this talk of reparations and ongoing guilt trips are a joke that should not be taken seriously, not the slightest.
Politicians, should be screened before they open their mouths!
Screened by who ? They are all corrupt. 🌱☹️
They were during covid...tow the line sonny..brown envelope..usual place 😅
@@Михаиллеви Did she have covid when she said those things? Has it made her brain warp? NO, she's racist...
The woman is a racist and has made racist remarks for years. She has made a career out of being a victim.
1960 we was called chalkey and white honkey a lad in my class lived in a caravan he was called tinkerboy we never got an apology Harold Wilson never condemned it in parliament
So what?
Is this really the best presenter ITV can get ??
the whole thing is a massive cope to defend Diane. Never liked her as a person. I remember seeing someone once debate her and her reply was "you disagree because im black. Its because im black." The other woman was arguing figures and facts but Diane just kept yelling over her "its because im black. Its because im black." I HATE people like that. Then you got these 3. "Oh racist will be happy, Diane is the most racially abused victim." This whole thing has been a massive mask off for the racist Diane. Its about time she got called out for the double standards and abusiveness she displays.
Who ? 😂 the bimbo or the failed MP ?
it dont give her any rights to insult other people .its about time she got her just desserts
@@bruce8359 zip it bot
Apartheid Israel...what about Palestinians gmb
The British public cares about you in the same way you do about us
@@davidatkinson5858 I'm Scottish😂
@@britnatzaredemocracydenier5922 still applies you selfish hateful narcissists👍
Israel is a democracy and Palestine has their own leadership...
@@johndawhale3197 it's an apartheid state knee bender
Its amazing no one on that panel calls her a racist
What about us Redheads.....?!! When are we going to get our apology...?
We Red Heads are the best, usually have more hair on our heads than most.
@@dianaweir5414 I love redheads tbh 😍 they get my blood pumping god knows how they could get abuse, women with red hair are to die for
ITV being the Labour parties hornblower
How the hell did she get into politics?
Take any aspect of racism out of this ,and what she has proven yet again, is that her judgement is so off target as to be bizzare.I am reminded of the interview by Nick Ferrari about her stance on recruiting more police.Very amusing but rather tragic that an experienced MP can make such a fool of themselves.She is not fit to be an MP.Add this latest debacle,and I think she must go.
You feel for her do you?? No just because she experience racism doesn't give you the ok to be racist
Tell that to Israelis
Come on Honesty is needed, after all the blunders this women has done in the past she would have been sacked years ago.
Why she wasn't is simple, and its probably the same reason she wont be sacked now this is because she is black and
she will be given the chance to leave.
Politicians and broadcaster's used the term antivaxxer whilst discriminating against the people they targeted with that slur.
The same people who hypocritically now condemn Abbot.
Covid denier 😅 They are 99 per cent hypocrites ...
The Jews were the ones that got Jesus arrested and led to his crusifiction
She should know better than anyone, no excuse she is a public official, politics is words.
And bribes 😂
its not her first racist comment who is NOT fit to in politics
I love seeing the media get themselves into a virtue-signalling twist over this.
Its soooooooo obvious and has been this way for ages, you either see it and follow along or see it and reject it for what it is, a lie. She pushed her views on whites for ages but now she steps on the wrong ppl then she gets cancelled and the media squirm cause they are all in on it.
Indeed 😅
No excuse really ,sick of all the yig yag about Dianne Abbot ,time she went
not white people discussing what's racist or not smh
Oh look a racist comment about white people.
You’re pretty racist yourself aren’t you???
This is the woman who said black mothers are better than white mothers, take a look at yourself before judging others
As a white person if I have dreadlocks it's cultural appropriation...It looks to me like Ms. Abbot has straightened her hair...Mmmm
Let us all calm down and be fair! I am neither for or against Diane Abbott, but I do believe that Keir Starmer made an even bigger insult to the entire country when he declared that he didn't know what a woman was. So why didn't he remove himself from being the Labour party leader before the next election, and refrain from his double standards and hypocrisy?
He's up there with Ed Milliband
Leave the women alone
Susanna Reid talking about anti-Semitism when she herself made anti-Semitic remarks when she was at the BBC...
Racism and prejudice are completely two different things.
Yes, but we live in a time when illiteracy is high and staring at screens stunts critical thinking skills and people have no understanding of nuance and the game is just to p[lay "gotcha" in the virtual public square. Racism, discrimination, prejudice, bigotry might be branch of the same tree. But there are distinctions to be made. However, goofy and maladroit Abbotts comments might have been, she never said anything close to "Jews never have experienced "racism"..."
She has caused so much trouble throughout her career she’s has got to go, a absolutely horrible person
Couldn't agree more - absolutely vile!
I think abbott was trying to say, being jewish is not nessecerily visable so doesnt ghet constant racism, but black people cant take theire skin off when they want a break.
I don't believe she is anti semitic. This is more a case of ignorance and stupidly. She is focused on her own abuse (and I do think that is justified), but at the same she can't see, or is unable to see the racial abuse of others. Racism is all encompassing,. Its not simply racism towards Black people that is wrong, but being anti semitic or anti white is just as evil. The issue that should be addressed is racism itself.
True analysed
It’s because people class racism on colour of skin. whoopi Goldberg said the same thing!
Abbott has hoodwinked us for 28 years , I bet she is laughing all the way to the bank, not worth a penny !!!
Look at that panel jumping through hoops to minimise Abbot’s culpability. Colour me surprised.
That is her opinion and it matters . If she has been facing racism she is speaking from experince. I live in Belgium and jews are white they do not face racism only black people and people of arabic decent do
Anti semite.
'she is speaking from experience' as if that somehow gives extra credit lol. No. That just means she's biased
You don’t know what racism means.
You’re ignorant
And open a book, I think you’ll find Jewish people in Belgium were victims of racism not even a lifetime ago
What about free speech? Total hypocrisy
Can someone please tell what race is Jewish people are?
They are Jewish...
They’re an ethnicity which is covered under the definition of racism
She is right. It's incredibly disrespectful that white people are trying to tell a Black woman what racism is and isn't. If you have a white or light coloured skin you do not experience racism in the same ways as people who have dark coloured skin. I am from a Jewish background, and have white skin. I have experienced prejudice due to coming to Britain from a different country, but I have never experienced racism. I remember talking with a Black British woman about our experiences, saying that I have experienced prejudice the minute I open my mouth, and her response was that I should try experiencing racism the second people see me. That's what Diane Abbott meant. This is just part of Starmer's hunt to get rid of the Left from Labour by using trumped-up slurs against popular, long-serving MPs. He should have more courage and say what he really means instead of starting a media storm and then hiding.
Jews are funny
On one hand Jews perpetuate the idea that whites are evil, can’t be victims of racism, control institutional power.
They claim when convenient to be “fellow whites” and only a different religion but otherwise “the same”
But as soon as you apply the same critical race theory to the Jews which push it saying Jews can’t be victims of racism, holocaust wasn’t racist it was just religious intolerance, they have institutional power they freak out and claim to be a victimised racial minority and not merely a religion and that the critical race theory rules don’t apply to them they are exempt.
Funny
As a white person i by definition can’t be antisemitic even if I hate Jews as white people don’t have the institutional power, money and organisation they do. If you compare wealth, academic professions etc.
They are total hypocrites fine
They claim Apartheid is “evil” in South Africa but totally fine when they do apartheid in Israel.
“Gradually I began to hate them”-Hitler
Your making the same mistake , exposing a limited view on your part.
She was describing, perhaps rather clumsily, the difference between racism and prejudice.
I agree with her but she could have worded it better.
Prejudice takes many forms, while racial prejudice is possible so is religious prejudice and cultural prejudice.
She should have said:
All racism is prejudice but not all prejudice is racism.
As a white Irish Catholic raised mostly in Scotland, I can tell you that when I experienced abuse and stereotypes growing up because of my Irish name and Catholic background... It wasn't because I was a different race from the people doing the abusing. I didn't experience "racism" though the small minded people often had some abuse based on race they would direct at people with a different skin colour to their own... Different eye shape to their own... That was racism... That I have experienced, just a little, when living in Vietnam.
@@johnnicol64 you are making the mistake in not understanding the meaning of words and why it's important that we have different words for different things.
All racism is prejudice... Not all prejudice is racism.
She was wrong and an off the cuff apology is nowhere near enough. Disgusting
She has only apologised now as it’s taken her brain this long to tell her she will lose her tax funded salary. Sack her
It is deeply offensive jewish people owned Slaves in Jamaica 🇯🇲
Sorry Ed you cannot defend the racist Abbot, and I know you feel a loyalty to her but her time has come to go.
Why not invite a Jew and a black guest 😅
Presuming to tell Diane how her vast experiences of racism should make her feel... interesting 🤔
Apparently years racism and misogyny *should* make her sympathetic.
So she couldn't possibly feel jaded? desensitised? Possibly all of these at once. 🙄
@@roslyn9647 I think that's because she wrote a letter which was published.
@@roslyn9647 So, the hard truth is that people descended from slaves are racists. Well, if you say so. Who am I to argue. The Jewish people are a race. Look it up. Clue = Semites.
I know, it's so sickening, a clear hatchet job.
Are you dense? She’s not saying how it makes her feel, she was stating these things as hard facts when it’s not the case.
Jews=The Law and the Profits!
But can I just ask, why is it if racism was aimed at a Black person, the person that done it doesn't get cancelled
Agree, she should kicked out of the Labour Party.
She is a rude woman and a racist.
@darthpepe2994yes look at Boris Johnson who rose up the ranks expeditiously, despite describing black people as “pickninnies with watermelon smiles” - if this was a comment made about the Jewish community, he would not be anywhere near the Houses of Parliament. People have already forgotten about Andrew Edwards and his comments about how black people should be kept as slaves.
Always the victim aren't you 😂😂😂
Were you born yesterday or something??
Someone from Buckingham palace literally got fired for asking ‘where are you from’ because she wasn’t sure if a black woman was an African delegate
@@davidshepherd8917 actually she was a lady and she chose to Quit
She suffered attacks because she always sticks her foot in her gob! HOPE SHE'S GONE!
2 words not to say in a sentence Jewish and Trans... you get cancelled immediately! I thought Jewish is a religion not a race, because you get black Jewish people too?
@ros lyn I agree, because it was discovered there are some etheopen tribes that were isolated from white skinned Jews, but practiced the religion.
@Mark S original jews are black, big discussion last year about this. So i don't see how this works. It's all confusing to me.
@@roslyn9647 Jewish is a race...the Jewish people are rooted to Judea.
@Mark S Lol, they may see themselves as a race but they are not a race. Utter nonsense.
@Mark S
I’m pretty sure real Jews are ethnically Middle Eastern origin not black. If Jews originated from blacks why didn’t they return to Africa. Jerusalem is in the Middle East.
Suzanne is a disgrace for covering for Abbott
Abbot can't add up but it's not racism
but Jews aren't a race, they are a religion! the Irish ARE a race though
when did Jewish become a race? I know it is a religion and also an ethnicity, Israeli being the Nationality.
I wonder, would it even be possible to come out with the characteristics of the "Jewish race" without being called racist?
I think you’re probably right. However, their suffering was more recent than slavery and more directly murderous. Therefore, establishing a hierarchy of oppression, whereby only racism directed at blacks is taken seriously, is extremely misguided.
Definition of racism includes discrimination based on ethnicity, which means discrimination against Jews would constitute racism
Just In America alone, the jews are 2.7 times more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than a black person.
I'm guessing diane is privy to those statistics, but chooses to ignore it.
Arabs regard ‘Jewish’ as a Race, As did the Nazis... Its enough to get you slaughtered by islamists, to this day, as seen every week.
@@davidshepherd8917 which Ethnic group does Jewish belong to under UK law?
in the 2021 census, Jewish isn't recognised as an ethnic group. you the choice of;
Asian or Asian British
Indian
Pakistani
Bangladeshi
Chinese
Any other Asian background
Black, Black British, Caribbean or African
Caribbean
African
Any other Black, Black British, or Caribbean background
Mixed or multiple ethnic groups
White and Black Caribbean
White and Black African
White and Asian
Any other Mixed or multiple ethnic background
White
English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish or British
Irish
Gypsy or Irish Traveller
Roma
Any other White background
Other ethnic group
Arab
Any other ethnic group
it would seem that Jewish isn't a race or a recognised ethnic group in the UK. or would Jewish be "any other ethnic group"?
I know that in Nazi Germany Jewish people were considered an inferior race, I really don't know of another nation that considers a class of people of a specific religion a race.
So now I know how she got to be an M.P. She is a black woman.
Only the chosen people get precedence when racism happens.
The fact that she was Britain's first black female MP and experiences the "most" racism doesn't excuse what she said. If anything, one would expect her to be more sympathetic to other ethnic minorities who have experienced similar racism like Kevin says, but this is the problem with Diane Abbott, she doesn't think things through and has adopted the American "BLM" ideology.
Those who live by the sword die by the sword.
Bye bye 👋
..Lightening can strike twice...but with Abbott, it's a ruddy conveyor belt :)
Because being gassed and burned is just the same as sitting at the back of the bus...
Suspended, she should be sacked and removed from the UK ‼️
To Rwanda 😅
Trying desperate to defend her 🤣
Shes always been rascist and a race baiter all thats happend is shes spoke her mind and its slipped out
She’s spoke her mind a few times, but they like to protect her.
The reason she experiences so much racism is because she’s a racist and gets upset when it’s dished back.
She's constantly talking crap.
Why is this any different, as a jew who's in her constituency, it's mind boggling how she's *still* an elected official
There are black Jewish people
Hit and Sunken.😂🤣 Next time (if she has a chance) she will know that no one can ''touch'' Jews.
Diane Abbott's letter
_The Observer_
23 April 2023
Racism is black and white
Tomiwa Owolade claims that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people all suffer from “racism” (“Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated”, Comment). They undoubtedly experience prejudice. This is similar to racism and the two words are often used as if they are interchangeable.
It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice. But they are not all their lives subject to racism. In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus. In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote. And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships.
Diane Abbott
House of Commons, London SW1
And yet we're supposed to feel sorry for her.
She did a lot of good in her community, so I'm not going to listen to the media with the attack against her. Stay strong Diane Abbott we know you're a good person ❤️
She's not wrong. Had there been cameras in the height of chattel slavery like the ones that captured the atrocities of the Holocaust, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Seems people really do believe "pics or it didn't happen".
Lmfao this shows anybody who concurs with Dianne Abbot is out of their mind.
Nothing is wrong in your statement
White men discussing what Racism means? Wow! How new…😊
You’re implying that because their white their views on the matter are inferior.
You are a racist.
Well Diana Abbott hasn't done a very good job of it has she? It's ridiculous to imply white people aren't able to discuss racism..
So if you experience racism that makes you exempt from being racist or making racist comments? Right 😂
Name the racist comment please?
Incredible, she made mistake after mistake yet people make excuses for her
Name the mistakes then m8. Since they’re are SO many this will be a cake walk for you? On yi go then pal.
@@socillizt4life Black mothers are better than white mother and that's a vile thing to say
Read a dictionary
I've allways liked Jewish people, nice and pleasant, .they deserve a desent life
She experiences the “ Most visceral racism “ because she is the most consistently and most vehemently racist MP in the House of Commons!
What she obviously meant was. Jewish British and Irish people are all ethnically Caucasian so discrimination between them is not racism because they are the same race.. prejudice would be the right word!
You’re very wrong
Look up what racism actually means and constitutes
the belief that *different races* possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.