Debbie Rowe is an amazing woman. She wanted to give Michael children, so they got married and she gave him two children. When that was done they divorced. She was a really good friend who understood Michael more than most people, she knew he needed to be a Dad and could see it wasn't gonna happen, that's why she was willing to do it for him. That to me is an amazing person, who can see beyond all the tabloid and media crap and just not care about all the lies and shit she knew the tabloids and media would give her if she married Michael to give him children. For example, all the crap that you people are talking about. I wish you people could see that there are a lot of good people in the world instead of thinking everyone wants something for money, and that no one could possibly do something out of the good of their heart. Debbie was a good person, and it doesn't take a genius to be able to see it in her. It takes one to know one. END OF STORY.
Debbie was a nurse at mj’s doctors office and when she heard he wanted kids she offered to help make that happen for him so like it was said above she was a surrogate. They also like above married due to mama katherine’s beliefs. Then when she gifted him his babies she disappeared back into her privacy. People bad talk her for leaving her kids but surrogates don’t usually hang around to raise the kids they had for someone else.
Lisa admitted that him and her were back on and off again after their divorce. Debbie was only married to Michaels because he didnt want a child out of wedlock
Not exactly true. After Michael and Lisa divorced, it was KATHERINE who encouraged Michael to marry Debbie (although there were other considerations as well, those are private and will not be disclosed here). You have to bear in mind that Rebbie was born 6 months after Katherine and Joe Jackson's nuptials.
Oh, give me a break! Those kids aren't "angels", far from it, Paris even bragged to Rolling Stone magazine in 2017 that she used to shoot up drugs intravenously, and if they're such amazing "kids", better than any other kids out there, why didn't their "father" ever write any songs about them, not even one?
@@juqistinaee Michael Jackson talked about his family, meaning his real family, several times in songs, including the song Ghosts from 1996, so you don't know what you're talking about.
Debbie put on weight after her pregnancy but she was a very pretty girl.. she just wasn’t into fashion or vanity. And she has a good heart, in the end that’s all MJ cared about. What use was Lisa’s beauty if they disagreed on THE most important thing to him.. his children? Debbie gave him what he wanted. If MJ had waited for Lisa to come around, he may either never have had his kids or they would’ve gotten even less time with him then they did on this earth. The children saved his life.
@London Riley oh PLEASE. paris is a literal carbon copy of debbie, but she has michael's smile. i've seen pictures of debbie in her youth and she was gorgeous. there is a pic of her that paris posts on her ig a lot. debbie just put on weight after the babies, and was never into makeup and fashion. she was a really laid back woman.
It dont metter if there white black gray blue or even purple every one is the same...... but debbie is the best shes awesome im really happy she had his kids cause if it wasn't for her he'll still have no one
Your comment makes no sense..Debbie didn’t say that michael and Lisa are all the time together..she was only answering that crazy rumor that they have an affair..she said that they traveled together as friends not as couples and she said that she is not bothered by that..I don’t really see anything in her speech that makes you believe Lisa’s crazy lies..and btw after that travel Michael and Lisa never met again..and the lies that Lisa was saying were results of a great jealousy because Michael was so happy with his new family..and what do u mean by public shit??michael and Debbie we’re friends for a long time and when Michael was so depressed because he didn’t have children she decided to help him because she believed that some people deserve to be a parent and Michael was one of them..their relationship was not strange at all..they married for three years(She even stayed with him more than Lisa)and had two kids and they were having great respect for each other even after their divorce..
Sarah Jackson exactly !! Lol how can anyone say that debbie said something that she did not say when we're hearing what she's saying with our own ears !!!!! Lol i think some people just try to twist words to suit there fantasies !!! I liked lisa and mj together but being in denial and twisting words to suit theories isnt going to change the outcome or the truth !! God the lies !!!!!!
OK you want the honest truth Debbie got alimony not money for bearing children required by the state of California Debbie lost a baby six months after Michael knocked her up right after his divorce from Lisa
@@tassialefevrei9859 After the two children were born but Lisa decided she would want back in the picture because she didn’t want to be the kid stepmother she only offered him nine kids after his divorce from Debbie
Theres pics all over youtube and eyewitness to prove they were VERY much together even while he was with Debbie Rowe. DR was ONLY for children and that was it. You may not like it cause you want to hate on Lisa so what truth is the truth. He was and always was in love with Lisa and she loved me and being married didnt stop them for trying to get back together off and on for over four years. Now we have Lisa confirmation which backs up them being seen and shown together for years after the split
lmao he was still seeing Lisa, while married to debbie? this is hilarious. He took Lisa to Africa and on the tour and not his then "wife" and people call Michael's and Lisa's marriage a sham? lol
Quite rediclous interview in terms to listen how present wife is talking about Michael's relationship with the ex-wife especially knowing that MJ never loved Debbie. It is her who was his friend even while their marriage. Lisa was his lover.
Some people are saying crazy things here and they even don’t know what really happened between Michael and Lisa before and after the divorce..Michael and Lisa were having many arguments during their marriage and Michael wanted to file the divorce but on the next day Lisa went to Michael and begged him to not file the divorce and that they can work things out..Michael promised her that he won’t and he didn’t but the next day Lisa filed the divorce to make the public think that the problem is from Michael so she can make interviews spreading horrible lies about him..then she regretted that decision and started calling Michael and sending him many letters saying that she is ready to give him nine kids and all that but Michael didn’t answer her so she talked to his mom and Janet to persuade Michael to get back to her but Michael kept on refusing and he married Debbie..Lisa was so pissed off and she went around having many short relationships to piss Michael off..then one day Lisa was rushed to the hospital because of a problem in her kidney and had an operation..so Michael went to visit her and he was going to travel to South Africa so he told her that she and her children can join him so she would recover there and she agreed..once they were seen together the crazy rumors that they have an affair started to take over the media..after that journey they’ve never been together again..Michael was so happy with his new family but Lisa was so jealous of that..even Michael said that she told him that she was so regretful because she didn’t have his first baby..then she started doing many interviews insulting Michael and spreading lies about him..while Michael refused to talk about her and he only talked about his relationship with her in his private phone calls with shmuley..this shows how evil and greedy Lisa is..
Sarah Jackson very true. I think the same thing too. The only thing is that when they were hanging out together after the divorce i do think there may of been something physical going on due to them holding hands wherever they went and he was even kissing her one night so i do think they may of been intimate again during that time. But i deffinitely think that it was her doing the chasing ! A woman wouldn't need to send letters to a man and go as far as to promise him 9 kids if he's still interested in her.
Lisa was too naive having an relationship with Michael,she just left his ex hubby then marry MJ. She still turned that time that she broke her family for mJ.
Yes ,, people don't search for reality .they just believe what is being spread in media .. Micheal just wanted happy family life , which lisa refused to give .. Micheal was hurt , his dream got broken and we all know how much he suffered ? I can't even write that . But thank God , Debbie came and helped Micheal to make a family ...😘
Maybe I'm selfish, but if I was married to michael Jackson there's no way I would be ok with him and LMP hanging out all the time.... Forget that haha!
By then Michael was already done with Lisa is a intimate partner she walked out on him he begged her to come back in as soon as she left he didn’t want any more to do with her he wouldn’t even let her in the hospital room
I think Debbie's purpose was always to be like a surrogate mother, and her and Michael always had a good relationship, but not husband/wife type, even when they were married.
I don't know why people think debbie is so weird for having Michael's children. Michael is a warm, beautiful person and he is a GREAT father. I would have a baby with Michael in a heartbeat. I wish I could right now. He is the kindest and most loving person ever and deserves his children whom he cherishes far more than most parents.
I love their relationship as a married couple :) Now I believe that Debbie Rowe was one of the right choice that Michael choose. She treated Michael perfectly as NORMAL husband like" Yeah youre the King of Pop but Im your wife, not on watch". And I love her loyalty to Michael, I mean she did not get married after their divorce. Unlike the first former MRS.Michael Jackson who got married again after a while *snob! ;:P
He was such a gorgeous person inside and out, I'm so glad she was so supportive of him and I'm sure he still supports and loves his family from up there.
I think no one can understand it. He had kids with one woman, loved another one and lived and raised his children with a nanny. Weird. But it's Michael. Don't want to follow the media who was very aggressive to him but he was really out of standards in any way and that's why they portrayed him as strange. I think very gifted ppl are always out of the line.
Actually Debbie and MJ had a long and strong relationship. Debbie talked about it in the AEG trial. She did care of MJ all her life ,very often slept with Him. Whatever it means:). She is a really smart woman and its not true that she did give birth to MJ's children for money. NOPE. MJ was overcaring and he bought everything to Debbie. Its was Him. He had golden heart and he was so overcaring. Not to just Debbie but all his girlfriends..he had many:).even when he had a woman for one night stand he did buy flowers and sweets and pay hotel bills anything to his partner. That was Him. May he rest in peace
« very often he slept with her» Really you were there⁉️ The only long time on and off relationship Michael had it’s with Diana Roos before she married LM.
@@dorothyhodge985 well I believe he left them in the hands of his mother katherine and the home alone kid but I really think they just came to a agreement on if he died where the children would go to
She loved Michael and knew that he wanted to be a father and she knew he would be an amazing father. People get married everyday but why was it so bizarre of a concept when Michael Jackson did it??!!! I never understood this!!!! Everyone deserves to find someone to love.
Debbie loved MJ and had wanted to marry him as early as 1992-1993. But his advisers kept pushing her away from him and FORCED Lisa Marie right on to him. MJ ran back to her in 1995, when he told her Lisa didn't want to sleep with him.
Tornado1994 how do u know this ? I may not belive that lisa was the love of his life but i find it very hard to belive that they werent even intimate. Why else would she have become so obsessed with him, and tried getting him back for years. She was even sick after the divorce ( partly due to stress after the breakup ) She spent years being bitter and angry towards him. Even in her interviews you can see the bitterness. Those emotions dont come out of nothing.
THE REAL TRUTH (posted by sarah blader) Some people are saying crazy things here and they even don’t know what really happened between Michael and Lisa before and after the divorce..Michael and Lisa were having many arguments during their marriage and Michael wanted to file the divorce but on the next day Lisa went to Michael and begged him to not file the divorce and that they can work things out..Michael promised her that he won’t and he didn’t but the next day Lisa filed the divorce to make the public think that the problem is from Michael so she can make interviews spreading horrible lies about him..then she regretted that decision and started calling Michael and sending him many letters saying that she is ready to give him nine kids and all that but Michael didn’t answer her so she talked to his mom and Janet to persuade Michael to get back to her but Michael kept on refusing and he married Debbie..Lisa was so pissed off and she went around having many short relationships to piss Michael off..then one day Lisa was rushed to the hospital because of a problem in her kidney and had an operation..so Michael went to visit her and he was going to travel to South Africa so he told her that she and her children can join him so she would recover there and she agreed..once they were seen together the crazy rumors that they have an affair started to take over the media..after that journey they’ve never been together again..Michael was so happy with his new family but Lisa was so jealous of that..even Michael said that she told him that she was so regretful because she didn’t have his first baby..then she started doing many interviews insulting Michael and spreading lies about him..while Michael refused to talk about her and he only talked about his relationship with her in his private phone calls with shmuley..this shows how evil and greedy Lisa is..
He was happy with his new family? But he keep seeing his ex Lisa, even when she is in hospital, going out with her, kissing her in public where they have been caught in action, barely stay with his so called perfect wife Debbie, because he was busy with his concert, his ex wife and her children, meanwhile the perfect pregnant wife was waiting for him, to play the perfect happy family‼️🙄🙄🙄 You may not like or loathe Lisa, but you are fooling yourself by thinking that a man who love his wife and he is devoted to her will behave like Michael did with Debbie, he appreciate what she has done for him, but he never was a husband for her, for the short time they had been married🤷🏾♀️
@@Veronique428 exactly. There's a reason Michael stated in his will that she was deliberately.....that's the word he used, deliberately left out of his will. Michael paid her dearly for those children. You don't pay for gifts.
@@Veronique428 michael was toying with lisa's feelings. if we wanted to get back with lisa, he would have. when he and debbie divorced, mj met blankets's mom and THAT's why lisa was so pissed when she left. she though he was going to give her another chance and he didn't. truth hurts
I do have a lot of respect for Debbie, even though there have been things that BOTH she and Michael have done that I will never understand. The only thing that gets me is that if I go by what was said in this interview, it seems as if this marriage was more about two people who are friends having kids together than a romantic love match. That is something I just don't get.
They kept their Romantic Relationship secret for years. For many reasons. One, Debbie is a very private person. Two, MJ was skeptical about disclosing her name back in 1996. He was a very crafty man that knew how to keep things hush hush and wanted to protect her in order to keep tabloids out of her private life. Three, Rowe's identity had been kept secret for 14 years.
he actually did keep up a sexual relationship with lisa for four years after their divorce. and no debbie didnt have approval...for christ sake, she felt jealous about michaels best friend and long time makeup artist, karen faye, to the extent she told his manager to fire her. and debbie and lisa had spats before and lisa cussed her out over the phone.
I agree with you people think he hated Lisa but she was back stage with him at his London History Tour concert and he did not look like he hated her then they went to his hotel afterward and they were holding hands now I don't know if they were having an affair but Lisa did tell Oprah they saw each four years after the divorce and kept getting together and breaking up....Lisa is the one he wanted to have the children with he said it right on Prime Time "it's in the hands of the heavens"
It's crazy. Michael had a relationship with ex with Debbie's appoval and she lied herself that MJ and Lisa were just firends. Can't believe this. Two adult ppl being in love travelling together and didn't have anything more then just frienship?
thankyou miss debby 🐇🌹you made two beautiful babys with king Michael Jackson you are his queen I love you for making Michael happy and smile you gave Michael Jackson children that are your and Michael Jacksons children they look beautiful like you and your daughter Michael Paris Michael kathryn🌹🐇 is beautiful like you and Michael you are a hero you gave Michael Jackson 🌹🐇children
Cause basically the only reason she did file for divorce was cause of obviously the media & Michael's crazy fame life & her being with him & her not being able to even leave the house just all to crazy but left the kids with him cause she knew how bad he wanted them & I do see where she's coming from from all of this year
I don't understand why non famous wives aren't allowed to have babies with a famous person just cause some famous husbands wives aren't famous & when their not famous like their husbands people call them gold diggers But it's almost like famous guys aren't allowed to have children with a non famous famous wife
it in his book. MJ only married Debbie so he could get custody of prince an Paris MJ an LMP were together for your years an in were in a relationship they spent they spent holiday together with family an her kids an prince Debbie got payed million for having those kids MJ an LMP were still in love when he died he even call her an ask her does she love him an he loved her MJ didn't love Debbie she was a friend that all point blank
Debbie had his children, but Michael was still in love w/Lisa, and I think Lisa felt he same way. I mean Lisa/Michael were still seeing each other 2 years after their divorce while he was married to Debbie. I really wish it was Lisa and Michael who had the babies together..
I love U Debbie b/c U truly, truly LOVED Ur husband Michael Jackson. A pity d marriage broke up b/4 he died.You loved him over d years as U looked after him when he visited Ur Clinic seeing his Doctor you worked with. In Ur job you'd seen him naked and could nt bear a woman he'd just married denying him children b/c she had hers. So U stepped in, healed his pains from divorce and God blessed U both with the MOST IMPORTANT GIFT in life -the children.Today we continue to see MJ in these children
Lisa has admitted she and MJ were seening each other for over 4 years AFTER the divorce . Stop hatting he was NOT in love with DR, or he wouldnt have been spending A LOT of time with Lisa Marie while DR was preggers hes with Lisa in Africa for weeks and she was with him for weeks on the later half of History tour and many other places. Your ignorant thinking they were sleeping together still. They travled together and stayed in the same hotel!! Come on people dont be bling by your hate!
Don't sorry for that. Because you could take Debbie's role, to give him kids but not live with them and with a man you love. Her children now even don't miss her. It's a big loss for any mother, I believe.
I think Debbie and Michael did have a wonderful relationship. From what i have seen, debbie rowe actually is a nice lady cos she bears two children for him. And from here, i can confirm that those 2 white kids ar biologically his because Debbie has said in the last part "Like Father like son, definitely had Daddy's sweet tooth". If these children aren't his, why she said Prince have Michael's tooth" Right or not???
Michael was a great father. I hope the kids will keep his memory in their hearts forever. Debbie is a great person - she loved Michael - that is so obvious - and she gave him two beautiful children... It was endearing to sse debbie at Michael's grave --- she must have been devastated when he passed away.
@mjshineforever Maybe there is something beautiful in her that only Michael was able to see. You know the feeling when you are really drawn to someone because you just felt like both of you connected even if other people around you thinks it's kinda weird.
all those who know MJ trust him, love him, and admire him; those who don't even know him criticize him, blame him, hurt him. what a rediculous situation. MJ we love you, and we know that you would never leave, because your love and smile would never stop shining in the sky of beauty.
They were friends, and Michael wanted childrens and she gave him what he wanted. At a price of course, and she had to give up all rights to the childrens. this wasn't a love affair. And as far as lisa goes she said Michael left home and the first time she saw him was at the 30th anniversary MSG. and that he had another girl pregant.
There is nothing wrong with obtaining a ceraget to have your children. To marry her is a big mistake. When the children became older they could not understand why there mother gave up custody. I love MJ very much so dont get me wrong. You can't please everyone. RIP loved one.
@catzpaw3 I didn't hear about this!! Where did you get the info about MJ falling out of love with her pre-divorce and that he didnt want to return her affections post-divorce? Really interesred in this topic and don't know much bout it. Appreciate any info you can give me. Thanx
Isn't that crazy?!? If there is anybody on this planet who deserved to have everlasting love with a very, very, very, very, lucky lady, it's Michael Jackson. That's the one thing that breaks my heart about him. Loving Michael Jackson romantically would easily be the most amazing experience ever known to woman. What a phenomenal boy/man. R.I.P. Michael
I definetitly Loved to give Him a baby He is just such an AMAZING Human being/Angel there is no reason for Him not to want Babies ESPECIALLY if they turn out to look anything like Him,Which of Course They did ALL3 Are amazing GORGEOUS Children I am so Happy at least We have them To carry on there DADDY's Great Deeds & I know that they will,SWEET Sweet BUBBIES They are♥♥♥KIKI♥♥♥
I was always under the impression that they married because he wanted kids I never knew that they had an actual relationship. But I try not to dabble in it too much I'm just curious
She LOVED him and he loved her. You don't understand, they had known each other since '82. But they didn't start dating until 1988. MJ had several secret Girlfriends, Debbie was his favorite one. After "This is it" MJ wanted to re-marry Debbie. He wanted to Retire, Raise his children and let their mother into their lives.
They were friends that's why MJ could talk to her about his private affairs with Lisa, the fights and arguments on having children. Debbie was in MJ's life before Lisa so why did he not marry her if he was in love with her?! Good question! Debbie offered to have children for MJ while he was still married to Lisa, so I don't get where anyone came up with the idea that MJ was in love with Debbie. He loved her obviously, as a friend!! MJ loved everything and everyone! At that point in his life having children was top priority, he was afraid he wasn't gonna live long, Lisa said that much he felt he would end up like Elvis. So he needed to get on with the business of having his own kids and RAISING them. And he had a very good relationship with Debbie who is such a great woman and he admired greatly enough to be okay with her as the mother of his children and he proved that by marrying her, much more than she bargained for. If only he could have loved her the way she loved him, but he couldn't help it that much Debbie knew that's why her hair wouldn't ruffle if he kept on seeing Lisa or Diana or anyone else for that matter! It did not affect her friendship with him!
I think very highly of Michael as a Father. It is no ones business what went on with him and his children. The reality is hexes a great man, had great children. End of story.
A "freak" for having Michael's kids??.. Try BLESSED! I would have given anything to have been in the position to give him children. Would have loved him with all my heart, forever. I still do, anyway. We miss you, Michael. God bless you, beautiful.
R.I.P MJ you were the best father....miss you soooooo much! I wish I could go back in time to meet you but sadly I can’t. At least I'll see you in Heaven on the day....
that is strange because I just finished Aphrodite Jones book about the 2005 trial and Debbie was a witness for the prosecution even though she praised him up and down on thw stand she openly admitted she wanted to be in a relationship with him again but since she was trying to get her parental rights back they only communication she had with him was through his lawyers apparently she was an emotional wreck the whole time she spoke but MJ just looked at her with a blank stare...
See, I hear what she's saying but I also listen to Lisa too. Neither one will discredit or say anything badly about him which fair enough I respect about them both, but, I believe Lisa when she says everyone has this idea of Michael that he presents to the public this meek little person - when it's not like how he really is. She says, he doesn't let anybody see it. There are two different voices he has, the voice when he is showing off to the camera and then private videos where he actually has a deep voice. Now, I like Michael, I really do I love him as a performer, I don't believe he abused any kids, I believe he did love kids or he wouldn't go all around the world donating and spending time with as many as he did but he was a manipulator when it came to the public because you hear there was a certain image he liked to create and uphold and I'm saying you never know really where you are with a manipulater. Lisa, his former wife had to go to therapy after her breakdown from him and when Opera asked her.. "Do you think he used you?" You could see that she didn't want to say anything badly but she said "all the signs pointed to yes." That's emotional abuse. Reprogramming someone's mind? That's not normal but she was young enough at the time to do it, exactly to the play by play with Precilla and Elvis, he went for someone he could programme and again Precilla was young enough to do so. In another interview Lisa said she didn't like him thought he was a freak and when asked in another interview what she thought to him she says 'he went out of her way to disillusion her and reprogrammed my mind.' Her Mother didn't trust Michael and between her Lisa and Michael they never answer a question directly they have to answer it from a different angle because they can not speak the truth. Lisa says, he's not stupid, he didn't get to be where he is today because he's stupid - so he's highly intelligent, he's reprogrammed her mind, now, call me stupid but with all this going on its hard to believe that tabloids are all about speculation when it came to him because he played to it. You read this book Tapes Of Michael Jackson he says he plays the audience, he pops out the mysterious side to get everyone interested - he wants them to look at him but funnily enough in an interview with Barbra Walters she says, "yes but, you can't invite them in again and again and then at a certain point pull away." He goes, "Yes, you can." He's creating this. Think of his song human nature. Tabloids media and press are drawn to him again and again because he is doing odd things like wearing that black mask because he likes the attention on him. If we think of Joey from friends when him and Rachel were telling each other their "moves" they put on the opposite sex. He tells Rachel he gets a bottle of wine sent to the table delivered by a fan so he can sit there and go "this is so embarrassing I just want to have a normal life!" He likes to be adored but not well known on the inside. He didn't even allow Lisa to visit him in the hospital, it had to be under scheduled visits because his health was very top secret and that's why, when he died his body was cut open so see what he had done to it - awful, truly awful. I hated that was done to him. Truly! But we were given insight to what he had done, these plastic surgeries he denied having, and what medication he had in his system. I agree it was his own private business but these are the lengths people are going to, to get at the truth! His parents and family must be distraught at what's happened to his body. When asked, Lisa, Opera said about the drugs she says, "he never would tell me anything." So even though she goes to say they talked openly and honestly no, I don't believe that he did because he liked to keep a certain amount of him back so no one did not know. He said in the book the Michael Jackson Tapes to Britney Spears who bared all her skin trying to give her advice on not putting herself so much out there, to try and keep viewers interested by revealing a little at a time. So when Debbie openly says she knows the man, erhuh, no way. She might know a side to him, but not all his sides. Depending on who came into contact with him he would determine which side of himself to show you. He openly admitted Lisa never lived at the Ranch so she didn't know what he was like as a boss and only him, and Norma could fire people. So why are employees going around saying they were frightened of Michael? Does that go in line with this meek little person who takes a walk in the media? He had different sides for different people. When someone can say I know him, I snort in dirision and say, "no, you do not."
@@camillehardy5529 she didn't trash his name. She loved him. The relationship ended badly and she was a public figure everybody wanted an answer out of her because of her time spent with Michael. There was perhaps one time I didn't agree with what she said that I thought was a bit hurtful to Michael but on the whole even though she was very angry for a long time, because don't forget he'd said to her you either have a baby for me or he's got Debbie standing in the wings telling him she'd do it and is Lisa going to do it or not - she spoke the truth and was very respectful to him in the way that any private conversation remained private because there was always reporters and people trying to goad and push her. Even with Dianna Sawyer, when Dianna didn't believe it was a normal relationship between them so Lisa said its in everyway a normal relationship, we fight, we argue - because that comes with being in a relationship. Like saying this is normal so back the fuck off us and then you have Michael going don't - don't say anything trying to stop Lisa from just saying that so clearly the two of them had different communication styles Frank and honest without expanding on what a fight was about and the other wanting the public to believe everything was always hunky dory. As soon as I saw that for the first time I thought that seams like a normal honest relatable reply off Lisa rather than making out everything's perfect. He'd have us believe he is perfect than admit a mistake - so you can either believe someone pretending everything's fine and someone else going, "no its not fine but I don't want to talk about it." There's one interview Lisa was in and it must have been just after the relationship ended and she shut the interviewer down very quickly, very outspokenly and she wasn't going to talk about anything. She struggled with the break up and just like any other break up we've ever gone through as a woman we get angry and when she's young in the entertainment business at the time she may have angrily retorted. She's not perfect. She's human. She's grown up in this business from a child and we can't comprehend what that's like and because press have always been onto her, any mistake - it's been made public knowledge but we relate to her because no she's not perfect, but she's trying and she's picking herself up off the floor again. Don't forget before she walked she had to see Michael go through a drug addiction and she put him back on track a couple of times until it was too much for her to handle - but she tried, she tried helping him.
She's very strong though to except that MJ got someone else pregnant (even if they did divorce legally cause of him fame) but still they had kids & they still remained good friends but I don't know any women that would except that That would be hard to deal with for most
Ppplsss, guys, let's not get it twisted! MJ was not in love with Debbie but with Lisa. MJ and Lisa were still married when Debbie offered to give MJ children since Lisa was secretly taking birth control pills and MJ even threatened Lisa with that fact. So Debbie got more than she ever bargained for in her wildest imagination when MJ offered to marry her out of deep respect and gratitude and mainly to give the children legitimacy and him full legal rights! Certainly MJ loved Debbie (that guy was walking talking everything love) no doubt but as a friend, he could not help it, his heart was already taken twice over unfortunately you can't tell your heart who to love and I think Debbie understood that very well and was okay with it, ashe said so herself 'she would put the marriage aside to retain his friendship'! Very fantastic man! That's why she has no hard feelings towards him and still loves him and misses him daily! MJ treats every body right and lovingly. I respect Debbie for not demanding more than what MJ was willing and capable to give! She got to be Mrs Michael Jackson! Many a woman would be okay to be his chef! That's the true picture in a big nutshell!
It was CONFIRMED by Lisa herself they were in a realtionship for years past their divorce. So stoop being ignornat they were STILL sleeping together. It was obvious before and even more now that Lisa Marie confirmed it. He was NOT in love with Debbie he STILL loved and was seening Lisa PERIOD!! You dont kiss and hold hands with a ex while your wife is thousand miles away if you so in love with your pregant wife. Use common sense, he was and stayed in love with Lisa Marie like it or not!!
I absolutely agree... and so many people would have love to have been that lady. He did say thogh that he had been in love before, Lord knows i would have loved to be her. X
Look at Michael just sitting on the grass with his baby. Gotta love him
Debbie Rowe is an amazing woman. She wanted to give Michael children, so they got married and she gave him two children. When that was done they divorced. She was a really good friend who understood Michael more than most people, she knew he needed to be a Dad and could see it wasn't gonna happen, that's why she was willing to do it for him. That to me is an amazing person, who can see beyond all the tabloid and media crap and just not care about all the lies and shit she knew the tabloids and media would give her if she married Michael to give him children. For example, all the crap that you people are talking about. I wish you people could see that there are a lot of good people in the world instead of thinking everyone wants something for money, and that no one could possibly do something out of the good of their heart. Debbie was a good person, and it doesn't take a genius to be able to see it in her. It takes one to know one. END OF STORY.
actually he had 3 children prince, paris, and blanket
Debbie isn't Blankets mother u idiot!
yes she is blanket,s mother so leave me alone
+Grace Parsons nope she is not
yeah she is so please back off
I like Debbie Rowe. She's down to earth.
Yeah they did Michael just didn’t appreciate what he had with her
Agree!
@@rachaelnelson4976 no, Michael just didn’t have romantic feelings. They can’t be forced.
@@rachaelnelson4976 she was a surrogate not a wife :) They wed because Katherine didn't want his children to be born outside of wedlock
Debbie was a nurse at mj’s doctors office and when she heard he wanted kids she offered to help make that happen for him so like it was said above she was a surrogate. They also like above married due to mama katherine’s beliefs. Then when she gifted him his babies she disappeared back into her privacy. People bad talk her for leaving her kids but surrogates don’t usually hang around to raise the kids they had for someone else.
Lisa admitted that him and her were back on and off again after their divorce. Debbie was only married to Michaels because he didnt want a child out of wedlock
Exactly. It wasn't love, Michael just wanted children so bad she was the only one that would do it for him. You better bet her ass got paid too.lol
e-boogie I'm sure!
e-boogie exactly!!!
Yeah, Right.
Not exactly true. After Michael and Lisa divorced, it was KATHERINE who encouraged Michael to marry Debbie (although there were other considerations as well, those are private and will not be disclosed here).
You have to bear in mind that Rebbie was born 6 months after Katherine and Joe Jackson's nuptials.
Strong woman to have gone into a relationship with MJ & also supported him through all of his trials, she still supports him today 'awesome'
Thanks Debbie for giving Michael his angels
Oh, give me a break! Those kids aren't "angels", far from it, Paris even bragged to Rolling Stone magazine in 2017 that she used to shoot up drugs intravenously, and if they're such amazing "kids", better than any other kids out there, why didn't their "father" ever write any songs about them, not even one?
@@courtneynewton-john8862 does evert artist needs to write a song about their child ?
@@juqistinaee
Michael Jackson talked about his family, meaning his real family, several times in songs, including the song Ghosts from 1996, so you don't know what you're talking about.
@@courtneynewton-john8862 im replying to the one you said that he didn't even write any songs about his kids-
@@juqistinaee
No, he didn't write any songs about those three kids, that's correct.
Debbie Rowe isn't that attractive but damn, she has good genes! Look at the beauty that is Paris Jackson.
Lou Dee well for me I find her pretty haha
Debbie put on weight after her pregnancy but she was a very pretty girl.. she just wasn’t into fashion or vanity. And she has a good heart, in the end that’s all MJ cared about. What use was Lisa’s beauty if they disagreed on THE most important thing to him.. his children? Debbie gave him what he wanted. If MJ had waited for Lisa to come around, he may either never have had his kids or they would’ve gotten even less time with him then they did on this earth. The children saved his life.
London Riley right
@London Riley oh PLEASE. paris is a literal carbon copy of debbie, but she has michael's smile. i've seen pictures of debbie in her youth and she was gorgeous. there is a pic of her that paris posts on her ig a lot. debbie just put on weight after the babies, and was never into makeup and fashion. she was a really laid back woman.
Who are you to decide what's attractive
It dont metter if there white black gray blue or even purple every one is the same...... but debbie is the best shes awesome im really happy she had his kids cause if it wasn't for her he'll still have no one
i really like debbie. i can see why michael loved her... really intelligent and down to earth...
So she admitted that Michael was with Lisa constantly, while being married with her for public shit. I always knew Lisa is saying truth.
Your comment makes no sense..Debbie didn’t say that michael and Lisa are all the time together..she was only answering that crazy rumor that they have an affair..she said that they traveled together as friends not as couples and she said that she is not bothered by that..I don’t really see anything in her speech that makes you believe Lisa’s crazy lies..and btw after that travel Michael and Lisa never met again..and the lies that Lisa was saying were results of a great jealousy because Michael was so happy with his new family..and what do u mean by public shit??michael and Debbie we’re friends for a long time and when Michael was so depressed because he didn’t have children she decided to help him because she believed that some people deserve to be a parent and Michael was one of them..their relationship was not strange at all..they married for three years(She even stayed with him more than Lisa)and had two kids and they were having great respect for each other even after their divorce..
Sarah Jackson exactly !!
Lol how can anyone say that debbie said something that she did not say when we're hearing what she's saying with our own ears !!!!!
Lol i think some people just try to twist words to suit there fantasies !!!
I liked lisa and mj together but being in denial and twisting words to suit theories isnt going to change the outcome or the truth !!
God the lies !!!!!!
Lisa admitted they were trying to reconciled together.
OK you want the honest truth Debbie got alimony not money for bearing children required by the state of California Debbie lost a baby six months after Michael knocked her up right after his divorce from Lisa
@@tassialefevrei9859
After the two children were born but Lisa decided she would want back in the picture because she didn’t want to be the kid stepmother she only offered him nine kids after his divorce from Debbie
OH MY GOD I DIED WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT THE LOLLIPOP THIN AT 2:30 !!!
I respect her a lot because she gave Michael the one thing he always wanted: kids/family ❤🙂
She gave him nothing. He paid her millions.
@@dorothyhodge985 Folks over here are really delusional when it comes for Debbie, pinning her as a saint🙄🤦🏾♀️
i love u debbie ur so right u go girl..
Love it. He was an incredible father and it's so sad he won't be able to see them grow up.
Michael is an amazing father. All his attention is on Prince. I love seeing Michael with his son. Just wonderful to see. I love you, Michael!
Theres pics all over youtube and eyewitness to prove they were VERY much together even while he was with Debbie Rowe. DR was ONLY for children and that was it. You may not like it cause you want to hate on Lisa so what truth is the truth. He was and always was in love with Lisa and she loved me and being married didnt stop them for trying to get back together off and on for over four years. Now we have Lisa confirmation which backs up them being seen and shown together for years after the split
Debbie was no joke or a freak. MJ for ever.
lmao he was still seeing Lisa, while married to debbie? this is hilarious. He took Lisa to Africa and on the tour and not his then "wife" and people call Michael's and Lisa's marriage a sham? lol
Quite rediclous interview in terms to listen how present wife is talking about Michael's relationship with the ex-wife especially knowing that MJ never loved Debbie. It is her who was his friend even while their marriage. Lisa was his lover.
Some people are saying crazy things here and they even don’t know what really happened between Michael and Lisa before and after the divorce..Michael and Lisa were having many arguments during their marriage and Michael wanted to file the divorce but on the next day Lisa went to Michael and begged him to not file the divorce and that they can work things out..Michael promised her that he won’t and he didn’t but the next day Lisa filed the divorce to make the public think that the problem is from Michael so she can make interviews spreading horrible lies about him..then she regretted that decision and started calling Michael and sending him many letters saying that she is ready to give him nine kids and all that but Michael didn’t answer her so she talked to his mom and Janet to persuade Michael to get back to her but Michael kept on refusing and he married Debbie..Lisa was so pissed off and she went around having many short relationships to piss Michael off..then one day Lisa was rushed to the hospital because of a problem in her kidney and had an operation..so Michael went to visit her and he was going to travel to South Africa so he told her that she and her children can join him so she would recover there and she agreed..once they were seen together the crazy rumors that they have an affair started to take over the media..after that journey they’ve never been together again..Michael was so happy with his new family but Lisa was so jealous of that..even Michael said that she told him that she was so regretful because she didn’t have his first baby..then she started doing many interviews insulting Michael and spreading lies about him..while Michael refused to talk about her and he only talked about his relationship with her in his private phone calls with shmuley..this shows how evil and greedy Lisa is..
Sarah Jackson very true.
I think the same thing too.
The only thing is that when they were hanging out together after the divorce i do think there may of been something physical going on due to them holding hands wherever they went and he was even kissing her one night so i do think they may of been intimate again during that time.
But i deffinitely think that it was her doing the chasing !
A woman wouldn't need to send letters to a man and go as far as to promise him 9 kids if he's still interested in her.
Lisa was too naive having an relationship with Michael,she just left his ex hubby then marry MJ.
She still turned that time that she broke her family for mJ.
Yes ,, people don't search for reality .they just believe what is being spread in media ..
Micheal just wanted happy family life , which lisa refused to give ..
Micheal was hurt , his dream got broken and we all know how much he suffered ? I can't even write that .
But thank God , Debbie came and helped Micheal to make a family ...😘
@@ajstar9596 mo
wtf you talk man!
MJ was a caring and loving father.
i love the parts when michael and prince are playing its so sweet
Maybe I'm selfish, but if I was married to michael Jackson there's no way I would be ok with him and LMP hanging out all the time.... Forget that haha!
You would be if you knew you and Michael were just friends not having sex and that Michael and Lisa Marie were more than "friends". She knew that.
ann landers 😆😆😆😆agree
But that's how u know that she wasn't truly in love with him and that this marriage was a business arrangement.
By then Michael was already done with Lisa is a intimate partner she walked out on him he begged her to come back in as soon as she left he didn’t want any more to do with her he wouldn’t even let her in the hospital room
@@zakiyareignshinellc4299 No it wasn’t LMP already had money offer daddy Elvis
I think Debbie's purpose was always to be like a surrogate mother, and her and Michael always had a good relationship, but not husband/wife type, even when they were married.
He was so into being a father...amazing father.
He should be with his kids now, God it's not fair, not fair!!!
I don't know why people think debbie is so weird for having Michael's children. Michael is a warm, beautiful person and he is a GREAT father. I would have a baby with Michael in a heartbeat. I wish I could right now. He is the kindest and most loving person ever and deserves his children whom he cherishes far more than most parents.
him playing with prince was just so cute
I love their relationship as a married couple :) Now I believe that Debbie Rowe was one of the right choice that Michael choose. She treated Michael perfectly as NORMAL husband like" Yeah youre the King of Pop but Im your wife, not on watch". And I love her loyalty to Michael, I mean she did not get married after their divorce. Unlike the first former MRS.Michael Jackson who got married again after a while *snob! ;:P
Debbie Rowe is a great woman. She really loved Michael Jackson and gave him two beautiful kids.
Thanks Debbie. You gave him what was the most important thing anyone could have given him. Even Lisa never loved him as much as you did.
He was such a gorgeous person inside and out, I'm so glad she was so supportive of him and I'm sure he still supports and loves his family from up there.
I love seeing Michael being a daddy!
I think no one can understand it. He had kids with one woman, loved another one and lived and raised his children with a nanny. Weird. But it's Michael. Don't want to follow the media who was very aggressive to him but he was really out of standards in any way and that's why they portrayed him as strange. I think very gifted ppl are always out of the line.
best summary of the situation.
First of all the nannies were only on the trips with him when he was on tour Michael took care of the kids all by himself
At the never land ranch
@@rachaelnelson4976 How do you know that? Did you lived with him?
Actually Debbie and MJ had a long and strong relationship. Debbie talked about it in the AEG trial. She did care of MJ all her life ,very often slept with Him. Whatever it means:). She is a really smart woman and its not true that she did give birth to MJ's children for money. NOPE. MJ was overcaring and he bought everything to Debbie. Its was Him. He had golden heart and he was so overcaring. Not to just Debbie but all his girlfriends..he had many:).even when he had a woman for one night stand he did buy flowers and sweets and pay hotel bills anything to his partner. That was Him. May he rest in peace
Why did Michael state in his will that he intentionally left Debbie Rowe out? He actually made it known.
« very often he slept with her» Really you were there⁉️ The only long time on and off relationship Michael had it’s with Diana Roos before she married LM.
@@dorothyhodge985 well I believe he left them in the hands of his mother katherine and the home alone kid but I really think they just came to a agreement on if he died where the children would go to
She loved Michael and knew that he wanted to be a father and she knew he would be an amazing father. People get married everyday but why was it so bizarre of a concept when Michael Jackson did it??!!! I never understood this!!!! Everyone deserves to find someone to love.
Yes . This is true
Debbie loved MJ and had wanted to marry him as early as 1992-1993. But his advisers kept pushing her away from him and FORCED Lisa Marie right on to him.
MJ ran back to her in 1995, when he told her Lisa didn't want to sleep with him.
Don't be an idiot. Michael and Lisa Marie were sleeping together up until the end.
False. LMP wasn't even ALLOWED in his Two Story Bedroom.
Tornado1994 how do u know this ?
I may not belive that lisa was the love of his life but i find it very hard to belive that they werent even intimate.
Why else would she have become so obsessed with him, and tried getting him back for years.
She was even sick after the divorce ( partly due to stress after the breakup )
She spent years being bitter and angry towards him. Even in her interviews you can see the bitterness.
Those emotions dont come out of nothing.
Really beautiful debby and very sweet moment michael and debby in neverland.i love you michael.
According to Lisa's words it's opposite - he needed her. But the truth is both of them needed each other even out of marriage.
she is amazing id like to meet her one day in my life... lol :)
so would i she is a great person
+Ismah Jackson absolutley
Debbie is actually a very sweet woman that’s why Catherine Jackson encouraged prints in Paris to be a part of their mothers life
@@rachaelnelson4976 How do you know? Katherine told you that?
@Rachael Nelson He got over her in ‘83.
Paris looks a lot like Debbie
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH DEBBIE! YOU COMPLETED MICHAEL'S LIFE!
Miss you micheal so much .....i love you
Ms. Rowe has really Power. Super 👍
Love Michael and he is safety Super Daddy for His Children’s. ❤️✌️😎👍
THE REAL TRUTH (posted by sarah blader)
Some people are saying crazy things here and they even don’t know what really happened between Michael and Lisa before and after the divorce..Michael and Lisa were having many arguments during their marriage and Michael wanted to file the divorce but on the next day Lisa went to Michael and begged him to not file the divorce and that they can work things out..Michael promised her that he won’t and he didn’t but the next day Lisa filed the divorce to make the public think that the problem is from Michael so she can make interviews spreading horrible lies about him..then she regretted that decision and started calling Michael and sending him many letters saying that she is ready to give him nine kids and all that but Michael didn’t answer her so she talked to his mom and Janet to persuade Michael to get back to her but Michael kept on refusing and he married Debbie..Lisa was so pissed off and she went around having many short relationships to piss Michael off..then one day Lisa was rushed to the hospital because of a problem in her kidney and had an operation..so Michael went to visit her and he was going to travel to South Africa so he told her that she and her children can join him so she would recover there and she agreed..once they were seen together the crazy rumors that they have an affair started to take over the media..after that journey they’ve never been together again..Michael was so happy with his new family but Lisa was so jealous of that..even Michael said that she told him that she was so regretful because she didn’t have his first baby..then she started doing many interviews insulting Michael and spreading lies about him..while Michael refused to talk about her and he only talked about his relationship with her in his private phone calls with shmuley..this shows how evil and greedy Lisa is..
He was happy with his new family? But he keep seeing his ex Lisa, even when she is in hospital, going out with her, kissing her in public where they have been caught in action, barely stay with his so called perfect wife Debbie, because he was busy with his concert, his ex wife and her children, meanwhile the perfect pregnant wife was waiting for him, to play the perfect happy family‼️🙄🙄🙄
You may not like or loathe Lisa, but you are fooling yourself by thinking that a man who love his wife and he is devoted to her will behave like Michael did with Debbie, he appreciate what she has done for him, but he never was a husband for her, for the short time they had been married🤷🏾♀️
@@Veronique428 exactly. There's a reason Michael stated in his will that she was deliberately.....that's the word he used, deliberately left out of his will. Michael paid her dearly for those children. You don't pay for gifts.
@@Veronique428 michael was toying with lisa's feelings. if we wanted to get back with lisa, he would have. when he and debbie divorced, mj met blankets's mom and THAT's why lisa was so pissed when she left. she though he was going to give her another chance and he didn't. truth hurts
I do have a lot of respect for Debbie, even though there have been things that BOTH she and Michael have done that I will never understand. The only thing that gets me is that if I go by what was said in this interview, it seems as if this marriage was more about two people who are friends having kids together than a romantic love match. That is something I just don't get.
They kept their Romantic Relationship secret for years. For many reasons.
One, Debbie is a very private person.
Two, MJ was skeptical about disclosing her name back in 1996. He was a very crafty man that knew how to keep things hush hush and wanted to protect her in order to keep tabloids out of her private life.
Three, Rowe's identity had been kept secret for 14 years.
@@Tornado1994 STOP SPREADING THOSE LIES‼️😤😡
he actually did keep up a sexual relationship with lisa for four years after their divorce. and no debbie didnt have approval...for christ sake, she felt jealous about michaels best friend and long time makeup artist, karen faye, to the extent she told his manager to fire her. and debbie and lisa had spats before and lisa cussed her out over the phone.
I agree with you people think he hated Lisa but she was back stage with him at his London History Tour concert and he did not look like he hated her then they went to his hotel afterward and they were holding hands now I don't know if they were having an affair but Lisa did tell Oprah they saw each four years after the divorce and kept getting together and breaking up....Lisa is the one he wanted to have the children with he said it right on Prime Time "it's in the hands of the heavens"
It's crazy. Michael had a relationship with ex with Debbie's appoval and she lied herself that MJ and Lisa were just firends. Can't believe this. Two adult ppl being in love travelling together and didn't have anything more then just frienship?
thankyou miss debby 🐇🌹you made two beautiful babys with king Michael Jackson you are his queen I love you for making Michael happy and smile you gave Michael Jackson children that are your and Michael Jacksons children they look beautiful like you and your daughter Michael Paris Michael kathryn🌹🐇 is beautiful like you and Michael you are a hero you gave Michael Jackson 🌹🐇children
I just see Mike and prince together
I wish the person who put this interview together focused the entire clip on just MJ and his son ♥♥♥ :'D
Awww hope they more children......❤️❤️❤️❤️ paris and Prince are beautiful ❤️❤️😍😍😍 and bigi
CAN YOU DENILE LIKE FOR REAL. they were friends okay that's why they kissed in front of a resturant as people took pictures TOTALLY FRIENDSHIP LOL
well to me Lisa and Michael looked more than just friends after the divorce.. whatever Debbie lol
Cause basically the only reason she did file for divorce was cause of obviously the media & Michael's crazy fame life & her being with him & her not being able to even leave the house just all to crazy but left the kids with him cause she knew how bad he wanted them & I do see where she's coming from from all of this year
Paris looks so much like Debbie!
aw she loved so much him she really did. i believe she still does to this day.
Thank you Debbie.... For being in his side..... 😘
I don't understand why non famous wives aren't allowed to have babies with a famous person just cause some famous husbands wives aren't famous & when their not famous like their husbands people call them gold diggers
But it's almost like famous guys aren't allowed to have children with a non famous famous wife
Britney Jonas say that 5 times fast
AWESOME INTERNIEW love Debbie.. & Michael xoxo
it in his book. MJ only married Debbie so he could get custody of prince an Paris MJ an LMP were together for your years an in were in a relationship they spent they spent holiday together with family an her kids an prince Debbie got payed million for having those kids MJ an LMP were still in love when he died he even call her an ask her does she love him an he loved her MJ didn't love Debbie she was a friend that all point blank
did any one else notice that debbie is taller then michael ahah....prince was so cute and chubby as a baby awww
Debbie had his children, but Michael was still in love w/Lisa, and I think Lisa felt he same way. I mean Lisa/Michael were still seeing each other 2 years after their divorce while he was married to Debbie. I really wish it was Lisa and Michael who had the babies together..
I love U Debbie b/c U truly, truly LOVED Ur husband Michael Jackson. A pity d marriage broke up b/4 he died.You loved him over d years as U looked after him when he visited Ur Clinic seeing his Doctor you worked with. In Ur job you'd seen him naked and could nt bear a woman he'd just married denying him children b/c she had hers. So U stepped in, healed his pains from divorce and God blessed U both with the MOST IMPORTANT GIFT in life -the children.Today we continue to see MJ in these children
Lisa has admitted she and MJ were seening each other for over 4 years AFTER the divorce . Stop hatting he was NOT in love with DR, or he wouldnt have been spending A LOT of time with Lisa Marie while DR was preggers hes with Lisa in Africa for weeks and she was with him for weeks on the later half of History tour and many other places. Your ignorant thinking they were sleeping together still. They travled together and stayed in the same hotel!! Come on people dont be bling by your hate!
Don't sorry for that. Because you could take Debbie's role, to give him kids but not live with them and with a man you love. Her children now even don't miss her. It's a big loss for any mother, I believe.
I think Debbie and Michael did have a wonderful relationship. From what i have seen, debbie rowe actually is a nice lady cos she bears two children for him. And from here, i can confirm that those 2 white kids ar biologically his because Debbie has said in the last part "Like Father like son, definitely had Daddy's sweet tooth". If these children aren't his, why she said Prince have Michael's tooth" Right or not???
Michael was a great father. I hope the kids will keep his memory in their hearts forever. Debbie is a great person - she loved Michael - that is so obvious - and she gave him two beautiful children... It was endearing to sse debbie at Michael's grave --- she must have been devastated when he passed away.
debbie is great. she is so level headed and not insecure at all
Both Debbie and Lisa are beautiful.
@mjshineforever Maybe there is something beautiful in her that only Michael was able to see. You know the feeling when you are really drawn to someone because you just felt like both of you connected even if other people around you thinks it's kinda weird.
all those who know MJ trust him, love him, and admire him; those who don't even know him criticize him, blame him, hurt him.
what a rediculous situation.
MJ we love you, and we know that you would never leave, because your love and smile would never stop shining in the sky of beauty.
They were friends, and Michael wanted childrens and she gave him what he wanted. At a price of course, and she had to give up all rights to the childrens. this wasn't a love affair. And as far as lisa goes she said Michael left home and the first time she saw him was at the 30th anniversary MSG. and that he had another girl pregant.
Mom:aww debbie is so understanding
:me in love with mjs kids and not listening😍
There is nothing wrong with obtaining a ceraget to have your children. To marry her is a big mistake. When the children became older they could not understand why there mother gave up custody. I love MJ very much so dont get me wrong. You can't please everyone. RIP loved one.
Prince, Paris and Bigi were cute babies!
@catzpaw3 I didn't hear about this!! Where did you get the info about MJ falling out of love with her pre-divorce and that he didnt want to return her affections post-divorce? Really interesred in this topic and don't know much bout it. Appreciate any info you can give me.
Thanx
Isn't that crazy?!? If there is anybody on this planet who deserved to have everlasting love with a very, very, very, very, lucky lady, it's Michael Jackson. That's the one thing that breaks my heart about him. Loving Michael Jackson romantically would easily be the most amazing experience ever known to woman. What a phenomenal boy/man. R.I.P. Michael
Michael Jackson have by Debbie the best gift in life is life son and daughter. She true love for Michael 👑🙏🌻
I definetitly Loved to give Him a baby He is just such an AMAZING Human being/Angel there is no reason for Him not to want Babies ESPECIALLY if they turn out to look anything like Him,Which of Course They did ALL3 Are amazing GORGEOUS Children I am so Happy at least We have them To carry on there DADDY's Great Deeds & I know that they will,SWEET Sweet BUBBIES They are♥♥♥KIKI♥♥♥
I was always under the impression that they married because he wanted kids I never knew that they had an actual relationship. But I try not to dabble in it too much I'm just curious
She LOVED him and he loved her.
You don't understand, they had known each other since '82. But they didn't start dating until 1988.
MJ had several secret Girlfriends, Debbie was his favorite one.
After "This is it" MJ wanted to re-marry Debbie. He wanted to Retire, Raise his children and let their mother into their lives.
Tornado1994 ik they've known each other for some time but what are the sources to these secret girlfriends
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They were friends that's why MJ could talk to her about his private affairs with Lisa, the fights and arguments on having children. Debbie was in MJ's life before Lisa so why did he not marry her if he was in love with her?! Good question! Debbie offered to have children for MJ while he was still married to Lisa, so I don't get where anyone came up with the idea that MJ was in love with Debbie. He loved her obviously, as a friend!! MJ loved everything and everyone! At that point in his life having children was top priority, he was afraid he wasn't gonna live long, Lisa said that much he felt he would end up like Elvis. So he needed to get on with the business of having his own kids and RAISING them. And he had a very good relationship with Debbie who is such a great woman and he admired greatly enough to be okay with her as the mother of his children and he proved that by marrying her, much more than she bargained for. If only he could have loved her the way she loved him, but he couldn't help it that much Debbie knew that's why her hair wouldn't ruffle if he kept on seeing Lisa or Diana or anyone else for that matter! It did not affect her friendship with him!
PRECIOUS MOMENTS for a father and child
Thank to Debbie
no, you are not glad, Debbie
I think very highly of Michael as a Father. It is no ones business what went on with him and his children. The reality is hexes a great man, had great children. End of story.
That was such a Joke!.. Of course you didn't mind their relationship . . . Because you knew that your marriage to Michael was a farce.
Fans are able to digest truth n lies but not farce. 😔
A "freak" for having Michael's kids??.. Try BLESSED! I would have given anything to have been in the position to give him children. Would have loved him with all my heart, forever. I still do, anyway. We miss you, Michael. God bless you, beautiful.
R.I.P MJ you were the best father....miss you soooooo much! I wish I could go back in time to meet you but sadly I can’t. At least I'll see you in Heaven on the day....
let me know if you want to see a pic of them both in 1985 when she first started treating him for vitiligo
I want to see it
아무리 생각해도 마이클 은
아이들 엄마를 사랑하지 않은것 같다
단지..시간에 쫒겨 어쩔수 없이 결혼
한것같다..인물도 없고.몸매도 뚱뚱하고?옷은 왜그리 구질구질하게
입고 다니는지..팬 입장에서 봐도
마음에안든다..
1:45...ya...friends with benefits...xD lol
that is strange because I just finished Aphrodite Jones book about the 2005 trial and Debbie was a witness for the prosecution even though she praised him up and down on thw stand she openly admitted she wanted to be in a relationship with him again but since she was trying to get her parental rights back they only communication she had with him was through his lawyers apparently she was an emotional wreck the whole time she spoke but MJ just looked at her with a blank stare...
Michael never loved Debbie. I always found him indifferent to debbie. He could have been more grateful to her.
They really tried to make them look crazy and weird
its a typical humans relationship drama. we all have it. the famous are not exempt.
Michael Jackson is best fahter in the world
See, I hear what she's saying but I also listen to Lisa too. Neither one will discredit or say anything badly about him which fair enough I respect about them both, but, I believe Lisa when she says everyone has this idea of Michael that he presents to the public this meek little person - when it's not like how he really is. She says, he doesn't let anybody see it.
There are two different voices he has, the voice when he is showing off to the camera and then private videos where he actually has a deep voice. Now, I like Michael, I really do I love him as a performer, I don't believe he abused any kids, I believe he did love kids or he wouldn't go all around the world donating and spending time with as many as he did but he was a manipulator when it came to the public because you hear there was a certain image he liked to create and uphold and I'm saying you never know really where you are with a manipulater.
Lisa, his former wife had to go to therapy after her breakdown from him and when Opera asked her..
"Do you think he used you?"
You could see that she didn't want to say anything badly but she said "all the signs pointed to yes." That's emotional abuse. Reprogramming someone's mind? That's not normal but she was young enough at the time to do it, exactly to the play by play with Precilla and Elvis, he went for someone he could programme and again Precilla was young enough to do so.
In another interview Lisa said she didn't like him thought he was a freak and when asked in another interview what she thought to him she says 'he went out of her way to disillusion her and reprogrammed my mind.'
Her Mother didn't trust Michael and between her Lisa and Michael they never answer a question directly they have to answer it from a different angle because they can not speak the truth.
Lisa says, he's not stupid, he didn't get to be where he is today because he's stupid - so he's highly intelligent, he's reprogrammed her mind, now, call me stupid but with all this going on its hard to believe that tabloids are all about speculation when it came to him because he played to it. You read this book Tapes Of Michael Jackson he says he plays the audience, he pops out the mysterious side to get everyone interested - he wants them to look at him but funnily enough in an interview with Barbra Walters she says, "yes but, you can't invite them in again and again and then at a certain point pull away." He goes, "Yes, you can."
He's creating this.
Think of his song human nature. Tabloids media and press are drawn to him again and again because he is doing odd things like wearing that black mask because he likes the attention on him. If we think of Joey from friends when him and Rachel were telling each other their "moves" they put on the opposite sex. He tells Rachel he gets a bottle of wine sent to the table delivered by a fan so he can sit there and go "this is so embarrassing I just want to have a normal life!"
He likes to be adored but not well known on the inside. He didn't even allow Lisa to visit him in the hospital, it had to be under scheduled visits because his health was very top secret and that's why, when he died his body was cut open so see what he had done to it - awful, truly awful. I hated that was done to him. Truly! But we were given insight to what he had done, these plastic surgeries he denied having, and what medication he had in his system. I agree it was his own private business but these are the lengths people are going to, to get at the truth!
His parents and family must be distraught at what's happened to his body.
When asked, Lisa, Opera said about the drugs she says, "he never would tell me anything." So even though she goes to say they talked openly and honestly no, I don't believe that he did because he liked to keep a certain amount of him back so no one did not know. He said in the book the Michael Jackson Tapes to Britney Spears who bared all her skin trying to give her advice on not putting herself so much out there, to try and keep viewers interested by revealing a little at a time.
So when Debbie openly says she knows the man, erhuh, no way. She might know a side to him, but not all his sides. Depending on who came into contact with him he would determine which side of himself to show you.
He openly admitted Lisa never lived at the Ranch so she didn't know what he was like as a boss and only him, and Norma could fire people. So why are employees going around saying they were frightened of Michael? Does that go in line with this meek little person who takes a walk in the media?
He had different sides for different people.
When someone can say I know him, I snort in dirision and say, "no, you do not."
Frightened of Michael?🤔 You comment is very interesting indeed, insightful and intriguing; what’s your sources?
Can you give me your sources please?
If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Lisa go on many late night shows trashing Michael’s name before he died?
@@camillehardy5529 she didn't trash his name. She loved him. The relationship ended badly and she was a public figure everybody wanted an answer out of her because of her time spent with Michael. There was perhaps one time I didn't agree with what she said that I thought was a bit hurtful to Michael but on the whole even though she was very angry for a long time, because don't forget he'd said to her you either have a baby for me or he's got Debbie standing in the wings telling him she'd do it and is Lisa going to do it or not - she spoke the truth and was very respectful to him in the way that any private conversation remained private because there was always reporters and people trying to goad and push her. Even with Dianna Sawyer, when Dianna didn't believe it was a normal relationship between them so Lisa said its in everyway a normal relationship, we fight, we argue - because that comes with being in a relationship. Like saying this is normal so back the fuck off us and then you have Michael going don't - don't say anything trying to stop Lisa from just saying that so clearly the two of them had different communication styles Frank and honest without expanding on what a fight was about and the other wanting the public to believe everything was always hunky dory. As soon as I saw that for the first time I thought that seams like a normal honest relatable reply off Lisa rather than making out everything's perfect. He'd have us believe he is perfect than admit a mistake - so you can either believe someone pretending everything's fine and someone else going, "no its not fine but I don't want to talk about it."
There's one interview Lisa was in and it must have been just after the relationship ended and she shut the interviewer down very quickly, very outspokenly and she wasn't going to talk about anything.
She struggled with the break up and just like any other break up we've ever gone through as a woman we get angry and when she's young in the entertainment business at the time she may have angrily retorted. She's not perfect. She's human. She's grown up in this business from a child and we can't comprehend what that's like and because press have always been onto her, any mistake - it's been made public knowledge but we relate to her because no she's not perfect, but she's trying and she's picking herself up off the floor again. Don't forget before she walked she had to see Michael go through a drug addiction and she put him back on track a couple of times until it was too much for her to handle - but she tried, she tried helping him.
Aww Michael n prince, great father n son moment (:
She's very strong though to except that MJ got someone else pregnant (even if they did divorce legally cause of him fame) but still they had kids & they still remained good friends but I don't know any women that would except that
That would be hard to deal with for most
+Britney Jonas I very much agree with you. It would be incredibly hard. But Debbie was a very strong person.
Ppplsss, guys, let's not get it twisted! MJ
was not in love with Debbie but with Lisa. MJ and Lisa were still married when Debbie offered to give MJ children since Lisa was secretly taking birth control pills and MJ even threatened Lisa with that fact. So Debbie got more than she ever bargained for in her wildest imagination when MJ offered to marry her out of deep respect and gratitude and mainly to give the children legitimacy and him full legal rights! Certainly MJ loved Debbie (that guy was walking talking everything love) no doubt but as a friend, he could not help it, his heart was already taken twice over unfortunately you can't tell your heart who to love and I think Debbie understood that very well and was okay with it, ashe said so herself 'she would put the marriage aside to retain his friendship'! Very fantastic man! That's why she has no hard feelings towards him and still loves him and misses him daily! MJ treats every body right and lovingly. I respect Debbie for not demanding more than what MJ was willing and capable to give! She got to be Mrs Michael Jackson! Many a woman would be okay to be his chef! That's the true picture in a big nutshell!
It was CONFIRMED by Lisa herself they were in a realtionship for years past their divorce. So stoop being ignornat they were STILL sleeping together. It was obvious before and even more now that Lisa Marie confirmed it. He was NOT in love with Debbie he STILL loved and was seening Lisa PERIOD!! You dont kiss and hold hands with a ex while your wife is thousand miles away if you so in love with your pregant wife. Use common sense, he was and stayed in love with Lisa Marie like it or not!!
Exactly lol! Michael still loved Lisa ; )
how can i get the full interview??
& Thanks...
I absolutely agree... and so many people would have love to have been that lady.
He did say thogh that he had been in love before,
Lord knows i would have loved to be her.
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