Thank you. This is the ONLY video where crimping was done. the other videos, every one I saw, screwed the studs, which as we know, kicks-out the sheet rock where the screws are. Nice work.
Who else thinks they look like Bud Spencer and Terence Hill in the vintage Trinity series? Thanks guys, nice demo, very clear on demo, video, and audio. Why not Mineral Wool which is more eco friendly and mold resistant?
Hello,nice and helpful video for us amateurs who wanna speerate space rooms..please let me ask you,whats the thickness of the dry wall u use and in what disntances in between them you place the stand studs?? Thanks in advance and greetings from Greece
Never seen anyone use adhesive, but seems like a nice idea for noise suppression. (IE: so if someone hits the wall you dont hear those nasty metal studs bouncing around like tin cans). I clicked on this video cause I was interested in the crimping tool, usually we just use clamps to hold the studs together while we run a zip screw through them to lock them in place, but im tired of that and I was wondering how effective the crimping tool would be compared to zip screws. Was actually thinking of just using the crimp tool to get the rough framing done then to use zips to fill in to make the jobs easier/faster.
With steel stud walls you run the sheets vertically staggering the joints at 600mm centres. In 30 years I have never seen a horizontal joint in steel stud construction.
Nope! Not with steel stud framing. The only way one would railroad sheets is if the framers f'd up and the plumber and electrician already came in and the layout would make it impossible to stand the sheets up. Never in almost 30 years have I ever used adhesive compound for sheetrock against steel studs.
Instead of shoving the insulation down between the two sheets, you could have just installed all the insulation before you put the back wall up. A bit easier.
Never sink the bugle head screw head that far though the paper face...just snug them so they are flush. That will make for a much more secure and longer lasting panel.
Go with the size of your balls!! Screw the hell out of it.. and please use more the 2 screws per channel for your drywall... Manuf specs for cgc drywall is a screw every 24” and 16” on ceiling..... I built my own house and past every code.. would not get these guys in my house
I thought the same thing. Wrong! There is absolutely no expansion in steel studs. The only reason for the gap at the floor is to use sound caulk or fire caulk against the sheet and the floor. Not yo mention, you always start rocking from top to bottom if your going to railroad sheets.
I think my apartment have the same stud, 60cm apart from each other. Can I please ask if these metal studs are strong enough to hang 3 of 80cm H x 80cm W x 37cm D cabinet that weigh 25kg each, plus say 20kg of content inside each cabinet that we'd fill in later?
great way to create faraday cage to destroy your wifi coverage, not sure about shelves either... but yeh it's very very cheap... so ideal for a new build house in the UK!!!
Both straight and horizontal application methods are possible. The factor to consider is the height of the ceiling (the board width is usually 120mm or 135mm and the length is usually 3M or 3.6M or 4.8M or 6M) , Usually the straight way
Ok So I never leave reviews & Im not leaving this one to be a jerk But as a Remodeling Business Owner for 13 years there where a few things that bothered me about this video, 1st the installation and Tool handling issues - They over sank the drywall screws and poped the paper facing instead of indenting which causes trapped air which allows screws to rust, Oxidize and mis-color or cause a nail pop - The way he dropped the drill down by the cord tells me either they don’t care for the business owners tools or even worse his own which typically tells me their work its treated the same way. - Then having 1 man hold the tape to get a 7’ measurement and your butting to a wall, I get team work but again I’d fire someone who’d do that on my jobs, the same way the second guy had to twist and move the stud to put it on the mark, again wow. - Theye didn’t explain the most important install tips, if you can lay a bottom track and clip a stud at 16 O.C you probably should call a professional. Not the important areas ar of course the top plate and double plated. The corners where the bottom and top track meets. How about the corner studs for support nd drywall. Or framing out for a door, These are the things a beginner needs to know, that videos like the 7 minutes I wasted writing this, Ill never get it back but I was compelled to say something. Happy New Year
No a extension is far beyond a small steel studded wall. You likely can’t DIY it unless if you extensive construction experience, but even then you’d have to sub out the foundations because you wouldn’t b able to get permit.
Stunna BadAzz mark the proper spacing on the track, align it with the spine or lip of the stud (depending on how you got your first measurement) and then just screw it with an impact driver. If you want you can use a c-clamp to hold the stud in place while you fasten it to the track.
+Gustavo Flores Yes I told to mark the center and edge of the stud on the track. attach a c-clamp, then use a speed square to check for squareness before screwing off.
been doing this for 20 years (and NVQ 3 qualified) in the UK and I've never heard of using adhesives before. also it's not a good idea to use a drywall gun to fix the top/bottom track. I'm only w couple of mins into this bus and I've already come across these mistakes, I don't think I can carry on watching.
They've been using 'stud' adhesive (such as what is produced by Boral industries) here in Oz all my life and I'm now 66 … I always say anyone is never to old to learn new tricks !
@Virginia Solomon They are not mistakes, just in some areas of the world we do things differently. Using a corded screwgun for screwing track to studs, only makes stripping the screw more probable. I don't want to speak for the other gentlemen. However, there is a way that you want to do a professional job and then there is a way of doing a half ass way. So I guess you can make the call on what type of professional do you want to be?
You won't get Expansion, in the uk on site were told studs have to be 400 apart, if you have been on site before you will know to ignore every word these people say
We tend to call it plasterboard over here in Australia. I think it's called drywall in the US. It's the wall board you use that replaced lath and plaster.
@@kezkezooie8595 drywall in the UK is slightly different to plasterboard. Not sure if it's the same worldwide. Drywall has a sloped edge, that creates a V shape when met with the other board. That "cavity" is filled and sanded, it's then painted without need for plastering. Plasterboard is flat and requires plastering
@@alexbaldwin1267 Thanks for that clarification. I'll admit that I'm no expert on this but I have a friend who is in the trade so I'll have to ask him if it's the same over here. I'd assume that it is the same, even if the terminology may be a bit different. I love learning new things so this was very welcome. Cheers!
@@kezkezooie8595 not a problem mate, I'm no expert either but I am studying plastering. Plastering is done quite differently throughout the world so it can be hard to find the info you need
Nice wall and helpful video for framing. I would suggest that impact noise or movement of the floorboards will transfer directly between the two room without much attenuation.
Ahh! I have only been doing this for few weeks. I thought I would get some good tips from men who have been doing this for 20 years! They put the shallow floor track on the ceiling and the deep head-track on the floor. The head-track is deeper to allow a small gap between stud and ceiling to allow a tiny amount of movement, and easy fixing. Specifications vary but most that I have seen do not fix the headtrack permanently to the stud. The boards go vertically with the studs 60cm apart so the edges of the boards meet on them. But American instructional videos show stacking the boards horizontally. Seems to be the way they do it an these Aussies seem to be copying them. They also appear to fix the floor track first, obstructing getting the head-track up and providing a trip hazard with a sharp edge, whilst they do it. Fixing the headtrack is not shown. As for the adhesive I have no idea what purpose it serves, especially with a couple of tiny blobs that they use, which will attach to a paper surface. But hey they have been doing it that way for 20 years....
when you made that drywall cut you didn't give it no space for the otherdrywall to get attatched to measure it get your t bar and give it that cut right down the middle of stud god dammit fuck! haha just playing Austin powers
Thank you. This is the ONLY video where crimping was done. the other videos, every one I saw, screwed the studs, which as we know, kicks-out the sheet rock where the screws are. Nice work.
Very informative! I really wanted to work in this field but suddenly stopped at 19. Hopefully i will go back to what i wanted to do.
it's amazing, I learnt a lot from this video. Through this video, I installed a wall in my room.
Loved your TV show..very informative..
Thankyou..
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Who else thinks they look like Bud Spencer and Terence Hill in the vintage Trinity series?
Thanks guys, nice demo, very clear on demo, video, and audio. Why not Mineral Wool which is more eco friendly and mold resistant?
Thank you! I’m learning the ropes to construction
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Hello,nice and helpful video for us amateurs who wanna speerate space rooms..please let me ask you,whats the thickness of the dry wall u use and in what disntances in between them you place the stand studs??
Thanks in advance and greetings from Greece
Never seen anyone use adhesive, but seems like a nice idea for noise suppression. (IE: so if someone hits the wall you dont hear those nasty metal studs bouncing around like tin cans).
I clicked on this video cause I was interested in the crimping tool, usually we just use clamps to hold the studs together while we run a zip screw through them to lock them in place, but im tired of that and I was wondering how effective the crimping tool would be compared to zip screws.
Was actually thinking of just using the crimp tool to get the rough framing done then to use zips to fill in to make the jobs easier/faster.
With steel stud walls you run the sheets vertically staggering the joints at 600mm centres. In 30 years I have never seen a horizontal joint in steel stud construction.
Nope! Not with steel stud framing. The only way one would railroad sheets is if the framers f'd up and the plumber and electrician already came in and the layout would make it impossible to stand the sheets up. Never in almost 30 years have I ever used adhesive compound for sheetrock against steel studs.
I think they're using the glue to dampen vibration. I'm an American that works in set building. we glue n screw most builds. no nails usually
That's funny, in france I've been used to screwing drywall vertically instead of horizontally, I wonder if this is better, it may reduce joints
Now I can tell them I have experience in metal studs wall framing. 🙂
😂😂😂 you and I both brother
Instead of shoving the insulation down between the two sheets, you could have just installed all the insulation before you put the back wall up. A bit easier.
Well said. Thought the same thing. They definitely do things ass backwards in Europe.
@@rickscully9533 Australia
@@rickscully9533 clearly Australia 😂
Never sink the bugle head screw head that far though the paper face...just snug them so they are flush. That will make for a much more secure and longer lasting panel.
Hi..just wanna ask..whats that youre using to connect the metal studs your
What about securing the track to the ceiling?
Use a walnut sized dollop of glue of course ...WTF did they find these two wieners!?!?! That was hilarious.
@@freedomwatchdog2495 All wrong mate. When securing the track to the ceiling you must use a corndog sized track of glue
Go with the size of your balls!!
Screw the hell out of it.. and please use more the 2 screws per channel for your drywall...
Manuf specs for cgc drywall is a screw every 24” and 16” on ceiling.....
I built my own house and past every code.. would not get these guys in my house
Thanks for sharing. At 1:33, what is the tool used to fix the stud to the track?
it's a stud crimper. That's the old school way to do it. We use wafer or pan head tek screws now. It's a lot easier when you get into heavier gauges.
@@Adam-xt4jh what brand?
I'd put in the insulation before installing any screws through the studs... otherwise you'll be cussing when the insulation snags on the screws.
Cool 😎
How much would it hold do you think. Strong enough for barn door let's say 80-100kg.
Thanks
How did you screw the track into the ceiling? Would have been nice to see how you dealt with that.
Is that 20lb electric chorded drill required?
and what about the jumpers between the joints of the sheets?
What are the tools and can you list the parts of furring? Planning to do it in a concrete wall, how should i stud it?
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Expansion for what if your not using wood
Metal is a stable material and even drywall
I thought the same thing. Wrong! There is absolutely no expansion in steel studs. The only reason for the gap at the floor is to use sound caulk or fire caulk against the sheet and the floor. Not yo mention, you always start rocking from top to bottom if your going to railroad sheets.
Those dimples aren’t for ur screws. Thats eq stud so it’s probably 25ga but equally strong as 20ga. The dimples make it more rigid
it does both
Wow... thanks for this video y'all, this is a way better technique than I've been using
I think my apartment have the same stud, 60cm apart from each other. Can I please ask if these metal studs are strong enough to hang 3 of 80cm H x 80cm W x 37cm D cabinet that weigh 25kg each, plus say 20kg of content inside each cabinet that we'd fill in later?
They sure can, use seversl screws
Do I have to use regular drywall screws???
In the USA we have both coarse and fine thread drywall screws. Use fine thread for metal studs.
I didn't know people still crimped. We remodeled a hotel that was built in the 50s and all studs were crimped except for doors and headers
What type of crimping tool is that, brand? Thank you.
Justin k
You have never used steel studs have you?
How do you do the top though
great way to create faraday cage to destroy your wifi coverage, not sure about shelves either... but yeh it's very very cheap... so ideal for a new build house in the UK!!!
I'm confused on what they're talking about no foundation? You can fasten a wooden stud wall to a concrete floor or a wooden floor so this confuses me
If it’s a condo or apartment. They do not recommend wooden studs because of condensation or leaks. Check your state or province for code.
What adhesive is being use
whts the size if the hirizontal and vertical frame
At the end of the vid i can see left wall is horizontal and right wall is vertical?
why is that?
Because they don't know what they are doing. Plus I think they secretly hate the taper.
Both straight and horizontal application methods are possible. The factor to consider is the height of the ceiling (the board width is usually 120mm or 135mm and the length is usually 3M or 3.6M or 4.8M or 6M) , Usually the straight way
Ok So I never leave reviews & Im not leaving this one to be a jerk But as a Remodeling Business Owner for 13 years there where a few things that bothered me about this video,
1st the installation and Tool handling issues
- They over sank the drywall screws and poped the paper facing instead of indenting which causes trapped air which allows screws to rust, Oxidize and mis-color or cause a nail pop
- The way he dropped the drill down by the cord tells me either they don’t care for the business owners tools or even worse his own which typically tells me their work its treated the same way.
- Then having 1 man hold the tape to get a 7’ measurement and your butting to a wall, I get team work but again I’d fire someone who’d do that on my jobs, the same way the second guy had to twist and move the stud to put it on the mark, again wow.
- Theye didn’t explain the most important install tips, if you can lay a bottom track and clip a stud at 16 O.C you probably should call a professional. Not the important areas ar of course the top plate and double plated. The corners where the bottom and top track meets. How about the corner studs for support nd drywall. Or framing out for a door, These are the things a beginner needs to know, that videos like the 7 minutes I wasted writing this, Ill never get it back but I was compelled to say something. Happy New Year
What do you mean by 16 o.c ? Didn't get it.
You really are a boring, snobby, moaning little twat
@@jackpartridge7891 love that 😂
Can I do this for the studio extension or this is only good for room partition?
No a extension is far beyond a small steel studded wall. You likely can’t DIY it unless if you extensive construction experience, but even then you’d have to sub out the foundations because you wouldn’t b able to get permit.
And make sure the holes line up.
Good showing for metal frame
Where can i buy that stud crimper
Just screw them on with frame screws
+Gustavo Flores they still have to immobilized as to keep on center before screwing no?
Stunna BadAzz mark the proper spacing on the track, align it with the spine or lip of the stud (depending on how you got your first measurement) and then just screw it with an impact driver.
If you want you can use a c-clamp to hold the stud in place while you fasten it to the track.
+Gustavo Flores Yes I told to mark the center and edge of the stud on the track. attach a c-clamp, then use a speed square to check for squareness before screwing off.
Stunna BadAzz sounds good to me then
been doing this for 20 years (and NVQ 3 qualified) in the UK and I've never heard of using adhesives before. also it's not a good idea to use a drywall gun to fix the top/bottom track. I'm only w couple of mins into this bus and I've already come across these mistakes, I don't think I can carry on watching.
the adhesive is just so the board doesnt bounce at all some ppl use it mostly just nerds
They've been using 'stud' adhesive (such as what is produced by Boral industries) here in Oz all my life and I'm now 66 … I always say anyone is never to old to learn new tricks !
@Virginia Solomon
They are not mistakes, just in some areas of the world we do things differently. Using a corded screwgun for screwing track to studs, only makes stripping the screw more probable. I don't want to speak for the other gentlemen. However, there is a way that you want to do a professional job and then there is a way of doing a half ass way. So I guess you can make the call on what type of professional do you want to be?
Why would one use this istead of wood studs? Also can I use hardiebacker on this steel framing?
Metal studs are fire resistant. As for hardiebacker I wouldn't use it on anything lighter than 18ga.
HW much quantity in one day 3 labor?
What tipe of steel studs is that?
Great video
Thanks guys, demonstration so easy even a cave man could do it.👍
wonderful idea...thanks
What sort of.cri.per do.i.buy?
Not sure about tucking a live drill under your arm though
how did you attach the studs to the top and bottom plate?
Crimp or screw.
Only one layer of plasterboard??
You only use one layer?
Thank you so much ❤
You won't get Expansion, in the uk on site were told studs have to be 400 apart, if you have been on site before you will know to ignore every word these people say
600mm is fine.
where do you buy the steel stud wall from
ippydude67 asda
Great week
when you say plastic board, do you mean dry wall
I think they were saying plaster board.
why not just install all the insulation at once and wheres yout shotgun for the track
Very good
Good luck
I have 10year expirce . I want wrk with u sir
I know Jipsm bord and GRG wrk
Never seen anyone install drywall from the bottom up
PlasterBoard is GYpsum Board really?
We tend to call it plasterboard over here in Australia. I think it's called drywall in the US. It's the wall board you use that replaced lath and plaster.
@@kezkezooie8595 drywall in the UK is slightly different to plasterboard. Not sure if it's the same worldwide. Drywall has a sloped edge, that creates a V shape when met with the other board. That "cavity" is filled and sanded, it's then painted without need for plastering. Plasterboard is flat and requires plastering
@@alexbaldwin1267 Thanks for that clarification. I'll admit that I'm no expert on this but I have a friend who is in the trade so I'll have to ask him if it's the same over here. I'd assume that it is the same, even if the terminology may be a bit different. I love learning new things so this was very welcome. Cheers!
@@kezkezooie8595 not a problem mate, I'm no expert either but I am studying plastering. Plastering is done quite differently throughout the world so it can be hard to find the info you need
You guys need to come learn how to work here in the USA 😂
Nice wall and helpful video for framing. I would suggest that impact noise or movement of the floorboards will transfer directly between the two room without much attenuation.
You could still be pre building walls on the floor and tilting them up tho
Great just don't let the building inspector see it.
good video thank you guys
yeah tanks
The screws always slip and wont screw properly, they need to make it thicker and nothing beats timber, this metal gauge is rubbish
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you may want to check out some other steel stud framing vids if any of you are building walls.
Never seen stud crimper before
Ahh! I have only been doing this for few weeks. I thought I would get some good tips from men who have been doing this for 20 years!
They put the shallow floor track on the ceiling and the deep head-track on the floor. The head-track is deeper to allow a small gap between stud and ceiling to allow a tiny amount of movement, and easy fixing. Specifications vary but most that I have seen do not fix the headtrack permanently to the stud.
The boards go vertically with the studs 60cm apart so the edges of the boards meet on them.
But American instructional videos show stacking the boards horizontally. Seems to be the way they do it an these Aussies seem to be copying them.
They also appear to fix the floor track first, obstructing getting the head-track up and providing a trip hazard with a sharp edge, whilst they do it.
Fixing the headtrack is not shown.
As for the adhesive I have no idea what purpose it serves, especially with a couple of tiny blobs that they use, which will attach to a paper surface.
But hey they have been doing it that way for 20 years....
Wrong........... The boards run vertically....the rails sit at 60CM intervals so that the edge of the board screws into the rails
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Whoops the first screw is stripped, hahahahahah
That man look like hodor from game of trones
Abubakr Hendricks *smiles* “Hodor...Hodor!”
Lol that wall looks so insanely weak!
Amusing. The big bloke had no respiratory protection, unless his whiskers were coated in lard.
Is it just me or do these guys look like Laurel and Hardy lol..
So who do u call? Carpenters,drywallers?
umm, "bugle head screws"
Lil guy sounds like Paul McDermott
Good luck hanging a tv wall mount on aluminum studs
when you made that drywall cut you didn't give it no space for the otherdrywall to get attatched to measure it get your t bar and give it that cut right down the middle of stud god dammit fuck! haha just playing Austin powers
you lost me when you crimped and when you started the drywall on the bottom first instead of the top
dominic finucci. 'T' bar ceiling
dominic finucci why would anyone start drywall from the top? That’s the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard
@@loejets
Because that's the proper way if you are going to railroad a small room with two sheets. Not sure what country your from?
Rick Scully UK. What advantages does starting from the top have ?
Nice from indonesia
You're supposed to have rubber under the frame as well bare minimum
God Dam i thought that was his son 😂
I'd go even so far as to say 'God Damn'!
the forgot a bunch of steps 30 seconds into the video lol
Great
I'm pretty sure you can still buy plans with all the details you need on Stodoys.
was fine--can u tell me how to make transparent wall with plastic. sounds weird but we can use it on roof-top--to see the sky
Just don't lean on the wall. Super flimsy...
We use I stud on single layer, c stud on double layer
Lol like the crimps are going to hold. Wood framing is much better
I'm sure you will find amazing woodworking plans on Stodoys.
He's look sleepy
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I recommend Woodglut to every beginner and not only.
Miclo