Otherwhise they are no competiton for wolf raiders that are boh more mobile and cheaper. Yes they have poison but it is not enough to justyfy 12 points per model.
Its actually nice to hear musings over these army lists at a high level, more food for though. I've enjoyed a heap of oldhammer content over the last few weeks, the only thing I havent been so keen on are people trying to frame the 'meta' so early in the editions life span. P.S. great job guys, found your podcast first, loving for content.
Much appreciated! Although I found the Empire one much better. The good, alright, fluff system helps and also more detail on builds and such. This one felt more like a read through? Would love to see a version 2 of this once you get a few games in with the greenies. Just some feedback, love your work!
Absolutely, some of our reviews are almost read through as we’re learning and we do intend to do new versions and more list based ones as time goes on so keep an eye out :)
how does the chariot mount work concerning the armor save? For the boar chariot it just says armor save 4+. It does not mention any armor. Now you put a black orc warboss on top. Is the fullplate armor added to the combined profile to add up to the 2+ max armor save or is it wasted? If you give said Boss the eadbuttin 'at does he add his one impact attack to the impact of the chariot? Thanks for the input! :) best regards!
So AFAIK there really is only 3 armour save values and you can only pick 1 for a model. These are either 6+ (usually LA), 5+ (usually Heavy, armoured hide etc..) and 4+ (usually plate, some chariots etc..). Then, you can add modifiers to this, e.g. shield +1, barding +1 etc.. So if you're on a chariot with a 4+ save and your general has a 5+ save you can use the 4+ save, add a shield for +1 for example to make it a 3+
Black Orc question! Motley crew. I want the nenwfit of shields to defend form shooting does every model need one? I heard something about proportion of unitsm is it just majority or everything? Cheers all
Initial impressions from playing these guys for a while: big boar block, great banners, chariots and squid hoppers. So agreeing with Colin. Disappointed with most goblin stuff, artillery and goblin characters.
Guys - in so many ways this was really good, but a suggestion to improve these would be to prep a little more: some aspects of this felt very rushed; a little more time pre-reading would answer a lot of the assumptions and guesses that were incorrectly made here. For example, the Giant's 'pick up' rule - it's very clear you can pick a character model out of the unit, you just didn't read on far enough in the moment. It can come across as quite haphazard.
Thanks for the feedback. We are consuming a lot of info very fast so these are not exhaustive reviews by any means. We’ll plan on that in the future. Regarding the giant, is it so clear cut? This forum post has 110 opinions gahag facebook.com/groups/1094350908610702/permalink/1151519729560486/?mibextid=2JQ9oc
I got boss on gigantic spider, arachnarok spider, tons of night goblins and wolf riders, spider riders, some fanatics, 6 fellwater trolls, 3 rock trolls? 5 mercenary ogres, giant, the huge momma troll... and trying to get some regular trolls too. ❤ oh and shaman on wyvern and the old goblin chariot hero and rock lobber.
I think the Combo will be, orc Bigguns with the banner of butchery taking them to S5. then skirmish with warbows. s5 360 bows sound awesome. only issue is no AP. but in a unit of say 40 youre going to cause issues.
@@oldworldfanatics serves me right for not reading rules to the end! That would have been so awesome! I am genuinely crushed haha itchy nuisance and curse of arrow attraction could maybe make a decent shooting phase yet?
Night goblins are annoyingly better than anything else. It's kinda annoying. Illusion is the best lore of magic in the game for controlling the battle. They don't have impetuous. They have the best monsters and fanatics. The tax of taking 1 hero per unit isn't a big deal when the heroes are 30 points. It's annoying when they make one sub faction that good
Really liked the Vampire Counts Focus and this one is just as good. Waiting for Wood Elves and Tomb Kings.
Hey thanks mate! We'll definitely try get through them all
Spider raiders need ambush to be worth it imho
Otherwhise they are no competiton for wolf raiders that are boh more mobile and cheaper. Yes they have poison but it is not enough to justyfy 12 points per model.
Its actually nice to hear musings over these army lists at a high level, more food for though. I've enjoyed a heap of oldhammer content over the last few weeks, the only thing I havent been so keen on are people trying to frame the 'meta' so early in the editions life span.
P.S. great job guys, found your podcast first, loving for content.
Thanks for listening!! We’re loving the podcasting and these RUclips videos are icing on the cake 🍰
😎😎 Hand of Mork on the Arachnarok!!
Yep super idea
That going to cost you just under 500 points and if you want to move them out of combat you going to have to buy another wizard.
Been waiting for this one. Cheers lads
Our pleasure! Hope we added something to the discourse :) We're still so new at this haha
Much appreciated! Although I found the Empire one much better. The good, alright, fluff system helps and also more detail on builds and such. This one felt more like a read through? Would love to see a version 2 of this once you get a few games in with the greenies.
Just some feedback, love your work!
Absolutely, some of our reviews are almost read through as we’re learning and we do intend to do new versions and more list based ones as time goes on so keep an eye out :)
giving this one a listen fellas keep it up
Cheers mate
What do i need to buy Saturday to make a decent army. Not wanting to break the bank on terrible models
how does the chariot mount work concerning the armor save? For the boar chariot it just says armor save 4+. It does not mention any armor. Now you put a black orc warboss on top. Is the fullplate armor added to the combined profile to add up to the 2+ max armor save or is it wasted? If you give said Boss the eadbuttin 'at does he add his one impact attack to the impact of the chariot? Thanks for the input! :) best regards!
So AFAIK there really is only 3 armour save values and you can only pick 1 for a model. These are either 6+ (usually LA), 5+ (usually Heavy, armoured hide etc..) and 4+ (usually plate, some chariots etc..).
Then, you can add modifiers to this, e.g. shield +1, barding +1 etc..
So if you're on a chariot with a 4+ save and your general has a 5+ save you can use the 4+ save, add a shield for +1 for example to make it a 3+
Nice one boyz, slowly catching up on your back catalogue :) Loving that squigs will be decent in Old World!
Oh yeah! Thanks for watching? Any faction reviews you're keen to see?
O&G. My favorite. I think they will struggle against dragonhammer builds
May not be the right forum, but what are your thoughts on 3rd part miniatures?
Love them! Use them. We're all for hobby and variation. As long as it's clear
Another fun 30 minute romp.
Time space continuum and all
Black Orc question! Motley crew. I want the nenwfit of shields to defend form shooting does every model need one? I heard something about proportion of unitsm is it just majority or everything? Cheers all
Really enjoyed this, very happy all the squig units are looking scary. One minor thing - you can't use choppas if you have a magic weapon
Yeah I thought we said it was just normal weapons but if not, we misspoke. Thanks for watching
@@oldworldfanatics was later on when you were discussing a specific weapon and mentioned it getting extra ap on the charge or something, easily done!
Initial impressions from playing these guys for a while: big boar block, great banners, chariots and squid hoppers. So agreeing with Colin. Disappointed with most goblin stuff, artillery and goblin characters.
Guys - in so many ways this was really good, but a suggestion to improve these would be to prep a little more: some aspects of this felt very rushed; a little more time pre-reading would answer a lot of the assumptions and guesses that were incorrectly made here. For example, the Giant's 'pick up' rule - it's very clear you can pick a character model out of the unit, you just didn't read on far enough in the moment. It can come across as quite haphazard.
Thanks for the feedback. We are consuming a lot of info very fast so these are not exhaustive reviews by any means. We’ll plan on that in the future. Regarding the giant, is it so clear cut? This forum post has 110 opinions gahag facebook.com/groups/1094350908610702/permalink/1151519729560486/?mibextid=2JQ9oc
I got boss on gigantic spider, arachnarok spider, tons of night goblins and wolf riders, spider riders, some fanatics, 6 fellwater trolls, 3 rock trolls? 5 mercenary ogres, giant, the huge momma troll... and trying to get some regular trolls too. ❤ oh and shaman on wyvern and the old goblin chariot hero and rock lobber.
So do you guys pronounce the G or not? Waaaaaagh thanks for the content dudes
Nice pickup!!! I always used to pronounce the G when I was a kid. Hard habit to break
Me too! I like it!
So Big Uns is no longer limited to 1 unit now? All though they have been reduced in WS, just 3.
Only 1 unit of boys can be big uns and 1 unit of boar boys can be big uns.
I think the Combo will be, orc Bigguns with the banner of butchery taking them to S5. then skirmish with warbows. s5 360 bows sound awesome. only issue is no AP. but in a unit of say 40 youre going to cause issues.
I got excited until I realised Bigguns only get Strength bonus in combat and the banner is only on the charge :(
@@oldworldfanatics serves me right for not reading rules to the end! That would have been so awesome! I am genuinely crushed haha itchy nuisance and curse of arrow attraction could maybe make a decent shooting phase yet?
Not to mention skirmishers block their own line of sight so you're effectively only shooting with the duded in the front few anyways.
Night goblins are annoyingly better than anything else. It's kinda annoying. Illusion is the best lore of magic in the game for controlling the battle. They don't have impetuous. They have the best monsters and fanatics. The tax of taking 1 hero per unit isn't a big deal when the heroes are 30 points. It's annoying when they make one sub faction that good
Literally my list rn.