What a lovely old line with it's original stations, overhead masts and signal posts (mostly). Genteel decay. I had never been past Elsternwick and now I have! When I moved to Melbourne in 1981 I lived in Balaclava and loved catching the Tait train. They used to fly up the hill from Windsor to Balaclava and bound over the road bridge, such fun and enduring memories that so few can share. Thank you.
You're welcome. You can clearly hear what I am talking about in your sound recording of the Sandringham line. You can hear the sound of bouncing over the Inkerman St bridge when maximum velocity is reached. :-)
Rode this line in the early 2000's whilst working for the rail and always wondered what it wound look like from the driver's seat, now I know. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thank you for posting this video. I grew up just down the road from Balaclava station '80-87 and I have fond childhood memories of going into work with dad on the school holidays and catching the train. I remember the "Red rattlers" or Taits well; from memory I think the Sandringham line was one of the last, of not the last line to run them. Balaclava looks like it has the same ugly building from the '80 's on the citybound side :) It wasn't painted back then and they still had a guard there. You could even buy tickets at the window, as long as there wasn't a train coming. Anyway thank you for the memories. Cheers!
Daniel Booth I am pleased that you enjoyed it. Certainly, the Sandringham and Saint Kilda/Port Melbourne lines seem to have been the last general use of the Taits which I think ended early 1984.
I just fired up my coffee machine and made a strong black coffee, sat down and looked at my recommended vids and this vid was here. Well, I could not think of anything I'd rather be doing on a Sunday arvo than sipping black coffee watching this vid. Some may say I should raise my standards I'm sure, however I couldn't care less what they may or not may say, I'm in a caffeine induced heaven! It doesn't get better than this LOL. There used to be a siding on the right at Windsor I remember. At New St/Dendy St I remember GY wagons and Y Class servicing them with briquettes. I can't remember that happening past about 1985 though.
Is this what you need to keep you awake watching my videos? They always nod me off when proof checking them on the big TV while sitting in my recliner chair. Perhaps a big hit of coffee will keep me awake, ha ha! When you start to worry what other people think of your interests, you will only lose if you take notice of them. 😊
Was sorta memorizing. Born and Bred in Melbourne with lots of train travel. One funny thing I found with this video, was that full frontal view.. dunno, it seemed like the train hardly moved at all. Could hear those engines revving up, but overall speed seemed very low, even through that very suburban line. Good video! Thanks.
To Phantomthecat - as happens occasionally, although I can read a comment it is totally inaccessible. So I hope you read this. As far as I can understand it, the Siemens trains have notches or steps in the braking equipment. In some situations, such as when the track is a bit slippery, taking that extra notch causes the wheels to lock up and slide, and sliding wheels stop a train much more slowly than turning wheels. That is what apparently happened with the bank.
I’m just pleased you could see it. Did you get an email or pop up to advise of my comment? It would be handy to know that for next time it affects another commenter.
tressteleg1 no notification that I’m aware of sorry - I just scrolled through the comments section and found your reply. I’ll check what notifications I have turned on.
I’m pleased you saw it. During the latest RUclips Studio ipad update, I think RUclips has changed something and it is much harder to find replies to answer. They often make ‘improvements’ which are a step backwards 😡
Love these video of cab view rail travel from all around the world but Australia leads the way in graffiti. No matter what city you're in, it's everywhere and on everything.
Travel this line often, only as far as Balaclava though. Never travelled beyond and certainly don't get a driver's view. Really interesting vid. Thanks. :)
Worked at nth brighton 30 - 40 years ago. One morning metallic christmas decorations hanging on my bridge close to overhead. Very scarey,people can do some stange things
I don’t know if you are looking for the other direction as well, but if so you will find it amongst my other a Melbourne train views. Melbourne - Driver's View Trains ruclips.net/p/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH
Was it you who asked about the North Melbourne station bypass line? Vline used it yesterday on my 4.30pm return from Bendigo, the station had 3 metro trains at the time...
Obviously the video was filmed well before Metro Tunnel works at South Yarra were started. Completely different now! For those that don't know what I'm talking about, As you leave South Yarra it is completely different now. At 2:19 where the ballast is across the tracks all the trees on the left are no longer there. They have been cleared for the decline and portals for the tunnels to South Kensington in the west. (9 kms of twin tunnels).
I'm being pedantic now, this is not a level crossing removal project, it's a completely new line with 5 new underground stations to relieve the pressure on the City Circle Loop by taking the Dandenong, Cranbourne/Pakenham lines out of the loop and into to their own tunnels out to Sunbury. The only thing that WASN'T added to the project - and I'll get some flack for this - was to add an interchange at South Yarra, primarily to cut costs. (The whole project is estimated at $11B). ..... Ian
Hawthorn Valley I don’t recall anybody saying that it was anything to do with level crossing removal. Original comment was to the effect that scenes from this video have changed in places due to the Metro tunnel project which as I understand it has nothing to do with a Metro as seen in Paris or even Sydney. It’s just a new underground line for the existing suburban train network.
As I said I was being pedantic. I may have misunderstood your comment "I also should take a look at other level crossing removal project work." I apologise if I offended you with my post, that was not intended. I went past the works in the train about 10 days ago and it is a hive of activity. The Frankston and Cranbourne/Pakenham tracks are to be realigned soon to allow for entry to/from the tunnels for Cranbourne/Pakenham trains to/from Sunbury. ... Ian
Tonight on *_Why is this on my RUclips recommended videos list_* Seriously though, it's ironic given what'll happen tomorrow... More power to the staff and PTUA. Also, I'd like to see this done on the V/Locitys; alas, their rules prevent it from happening, and the best view you can get is from the rear-view of an old N-Class long-distance hauler.
quite a short section from the signal departing prahran to the next fixed signal before windsor looked like a blind corner departing prahran aswell wonder if drivers would get double reds before arriving into windsor and how many over the years would have gone through the SPAD
That is part of the art of ‘learning the road’. Knowing where to slow down enough just in case the signal around the corner is at Stop. How many SPADS there were, we will probably never know.
Vincent Weatherly No surprise really. Saint Kilda and Port Melbourne are rather short lines and never carried many passengers in the railway days. Certainly the tram brought a lot more passengers. Trams couldn’t carry enough people for Sandringham, I believe.
So how did the Siemens end up in the wall? The last bit of the video - 21:48 shows red over red with orange aspect so 15kph into the siding. Was this the case when that train ran over the buffer or was it a complete brake failure coming into the siding at a higher speed? Wouldn’t have thought at 15kph it would have got that far? Don’t recall the incident so quite interested. 👍. Love you videos as always being a born and bred Melbournian. 👍
It always amuses me that Melbourne terminates trains at Flinders Street, the busiest station, and sends them off in the opposite direction. Nobody else does that, running the trains through to somewhere where they can get out of the way to reverse. No wonder Melbourne trains seem always to be a shambles.
Richard Catchlove Thanks. Unfortunately I am only an occasional visitor to Melbourne so I cannot comment about the boom gates. I just present the videos as my driver has recorded them for me.
Josh Clark No. If they are not automatic, being tied in with the automatic signals, they are controlled from a signal box either along the line or at some central location.
Nearly all rail lines have been done in one direction. You should open RUclips and search for ‘Driver’s View’ and the name of the line you want and nearly always you will find it.
If you are referring to the train going into the yard it had a low speed caution signal (small yellow beneath the two reds) that let the train proceed at a maximum speed of 15kph.
True. I am working on a tram career video right now. As for trains, I had quite a few ‘sly drives’ in Sydney in the 1980s plus a few in Melbourne. That will be the subject of a later video but very few were recorded.
Do you know if the back platform at Brighton Beach is used? Edit: there's baulk's on the track so obviously not. The trains start at middle Brighton I think
It's unsafe because of the slope of the platform and also to the lack of trains needing to terminate there. They don't even use it for stabling because you can't inspect the undercarriage on the platform side.
I had not noticed it before but the signal itself is a Home signal, controlled by a signal box. However I don’t see a sig. box but it may be at the next station. When the box is closed, an A would be illuminated telling the drivers that they should treat it as an Automatic signal. IE if stuck on Red, the driver can proceed with care after stopping. Less likely is the possibility that a reduced speed could be illuminated.
Tressteleg1 is correct. It's the illuminated letter A except it's not illuminated in this instance and the description is correct. However I have no idea why it's "switched in" as there is no apparent reason as to why it should be. This is Elsternwick which is one of few locations that have annett key locked points. The points can only be manually operated with a special key which is inserted into the point lever.
It will be to do with the manually operated crossover points up ahead. These are (now rarely) used to transfer trains to the other track if the tracks were blocked further on.
Great video as always. Growing up in Beaumaris during late 50's and , when I started work in the mid 60's, I used to get VR bus to Sandringham then train into the city.Have you considered producing a driver's view of the VR bus which now goes to Southland (I think)? ps If you don't mind my asking , how as the name "tressteleg" derived?
I’ll stay away from buses for now. I doubt if my regulars would be interested. I previously worked for the post office and sent telegrams. The Automatic switching centre (Phone exchange for the teleprinters was called TRESS. People whose sole job was to send telegrams were Telegraphists. Thus tressteleg1. See How Telegrams Were Sent.
I forget whether this train was following another, but looking at the signals should show you whether it was or not. If not, I’m sure you will find that the train was adhering to the timetable which is never much of a challenge on this line.
So what? There is nothing wrong with them and in fact the brakes are far more reliable than those useless modern Siemens trains. There is no doubt that the brake design, not bad driving, put the train crashing into the bank.
@@tressteleg1 Hi thank you for all your hard work in presenting the vidoes. I am a retired truck driver now but remember the Siemens trains over shooting the stops and immediately knew the problem was in the SBS braking system. I notice going from standard brakes to a SBS system, stopping time is a little bit longer. I was going to call metro about it but thought they would think what would a truck driver know about it. Cheers.
I could be wrong with this but from what I remember the Siemens, which had steps of increasing force, were OK on dry rail but in wet conditions one or more steps were too great for the conditions which locked up the wheels causing a locked wheels slide. As such, retardation is somewhat less than normal so the whole train slides beyond the intended stopping point. Loss of traction on a road vehicle is mostly no big deal, but on a train or tram (I know about them!) there is little retardation.
@@tressteleg1 Hi, thank you for your reply. I meant to say ABS braking system which prevents brake lock up by the processor detector and applies and releases. The reverser system also could come into play as its a very good retarder in slowing the train.i know for a fact a Volvo truck a nice piece of kit can lock up the rear wheels in the wet with a Voit retarder system is set on high Anyway interesting thoughts. I thank you so much for your presentations you go the whole ten yards in the explanations, love those signal rules. Cheers
Alll good thanks. Of course I know what abs is. If wheels start to spin on acceleration trains cut power then start powering again when spinning has stopped. But as far as I know there is nothing equivalent in braking. The point is, if a surge, to the next Step, locks all wheels at once, the train will think it has stopped so would see no reason to do anything. And if approaching the end of the track, the driver may not have enough time to release the brakes then start to carefully apply the brakes again.
17:31 don't you think it's unethical to blow whistle so close to houses? Especially at night. Do drivers not blow the whistle at night, to prevent disturbing people living in those homes?
Flizey Those posts with the white crosses on them are whistle boards and the driver must blow the train whistle at that point. He has no choice. Just be thankful it is not America where all sorts of long convoluted whistle codes are blown at any time. These train lines were running long before the present people bought their houses. If you live near a train line, you should expect to hear trains.
Flizey I’m not a railway man so don’t know exactly what, but initially they would probably be warned. I doubt if they would get sacked over it but I dare say that Metro has certain disciplinary actions. Maybe they could be sent home for a few days without pay. But I’m only guessing. The point is, they all obey the whistle signs.
@@tressteleg1 , the 2 new lines are fast. the ones they call 'heritage' aren't really. one thing this system has going for it is regular track maintenance. there are no, repeat no mudholes.
If you are referring to Melbourne, without doubt the trackwork standard is far inferior to that of Sydney and Brisbane. Those systems have not had wooden sleepers anywhere for a very long time although I’m not sure about Brisbane’s Doomben line which is rather insignificant. I don’t often ride in Sydney but my last memory was of trains gliding along so smoothly you barely know you are moving. That may be so on lines just like Mernda and sky rail sections but not often the case elsewhere.
This is one of the slowest lines. Look how close the stations are. This is how fast the trains accelerate. They can't accelerate any faster otherwise they get wheel slip
Due to the population and number of people using the trains, they cannot be stopped for hours on end. If a person gets hit by a train, the train stops till the body is removed. Driver is changed (if required) and the train proceeds. Even when the blast happened in Mumbai, trains were back up and running within a couple of hours. That will never happen here. In Sydney, the whole line shuts for just a medical emergency - for hours on end at times.
I have no idea what the pay rate is for drivers. But a management which is nice to work for is also important. I’m not so sure that this exists in Melbourne.
Shangri La is a perfect place to live. I grew up there. It was interesting enough in the 50s and 60s but I certainly would not want to live there. It’s overfull, and has been for years. As for that driverless metro thing, ho-hum. Okay for people who want to stand up for half an hour or more but it should’ve been a regular train line. Automation was just a ploy to bust the rail union.
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What a lovely old line with it's original stations, overhead masts and signal posts (mostly). Genteel decay. I had never been past Elsternwick and now I have! When I moved to Melbourne in 1981 I lived in Balaclava and loved catching the Tait train. They used to fly up the hill from Windsor to Balaclava and bound over the road bridge, such fun and enduring memories that so few can share. Thank you.
Thanks for your memories. 😊
You're welcome. You can clearly hear what I am talking about in your sound recording of the Sandringham line. You can hear the sound of bouncing over the Inkerman St bridge when maximum velocity is reached. :-)
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Stronghold of Taits in final years, recall seeing many 3 car services.
Rode this line in the early 2000's whilst working for the rail and always wondered what it wound look like from the driver's seat, now I know. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thank you for posting this video. I grew up just down the road from Balaclava station '80-87 and I have fond childhood memories of going into work with dad on the school holidays and catching the train. I remember the "Red rattlers" or Taits well; from memory I think the Sandringham line was one of the last, of not the last line to run them. Balaclava looks like it has the same ugly building from the '80 's on the citybound side :) It wasn't painted back then and they still had a guard there. You could even buy tickets at the window, as long as there wasn't a train coming. Anyway thank you for the memories. Cheers!
Daniel Booth I am pleased that you enjoyed it. Certainly, the Sandringham and Saint Kilda/Port Melbourne lines seem to have been the last general use of the Taits which I think ended early 1984.
Used to work at Gardenvale from 2016-2018. Brings back a lot of memories and cool to see where the train goes after!
Good to bring back some memories for you.
An old line I used to run on with the 6 car Taits as a Driver. Thanks for a great memory Mate.
I think Sandy to St Kilda was the last Tait line. Look for my Video for the sounds of a Tait train on that line.
I have been on every single train in Melbourne before and there were lots of brand new modern stations.
I just fired up my coffee machine and made a strong black coffee, sat down and looked at my recommended vids and this vid was here. Well, I could not think of anything I'd rather be doing on a Sunday arvo than sipping black coffee watching this vid. Some may say I should raise my standards I'm sure, however I couldn't care less what they may or not may say, I'm in a caffeine induced heaven!
It doesn't get better than this LOL.
There used to be a siding on the right at Windsor I remember. At New St/Dendy St I remember GY wagons and Y Class servicing them with briquettes. I can't remember that happening past about 1985 though.
Is this what you need to keep you awake watching my videos? They always nod me off when proof checking them on the big TV while sitting in my recliner chair. Perhaps a big hit of coffee will keep me awake, ha ha! When you start to worry what other people think of your interests, you will only lose if you take notice of them. 😊
Was sorta memorizing. Born and Bred in Melbourne with lots of train travel. One funny thing I found with this video, was that full frontal view.. dunno, it seemed like the train hardly moved at all. Could hear those engines revving up, but overall speed seemed very low, even through that very suburban line. Good video! Thanks.
It is not a fast line. Normal Speed is 70km/h. The camera often makes speed look slower than it really is.
To Phantomthecat - as happens occasionally, although I can read a comment it is totally inaccessible. So I hope you read this.
As far as I can understand it, the Siemens trains have notches or steps in the braking equipment. In some situations, such as when the track is a bit slippery, taking that extra notch causes the wheels to lock up and slide, and sliding wheels stop a train much more slowly than turning wheels. That is what apparently happened with the bank.
I’m just pleased you could see it. Did you get an email or pop up to advise of my comment? It would be handy to know that for next time it affects another commenter.
tressteleg1 no notification that I’m aware of sorry - I just scrolled through the comments section and found your reply. I’ll check what notifications I have turned on.
I’m pleased you saw it. During the latest RUclips Studio ipad update, I think RUclips has changed something and it is much harder to find replies to answer. They often make ‘improvements’ which are a step backwards 😡
your a nice driver tooting at the family. 👌
I’m not a train driver. A friend runs his camera. 😊
@@tressteleg1 oh my bad. great video!
Love these video of cab view rail travel from all around the world but Australia leads the way in graffiti. No matter what city you're in, it's everywhere and on everything.
Christopher Joseph 😊
Used to ride this line all the time for 10 years before leaving Melbourne for Canberra. Now I take the tram in Canberra.
That’s good. How is the line going. Plenty of passengers?
Melbourne, the city of trains
Don’t forget the trams.
Travel this line often, only as far as Balaclava though. Never travelled beyond and certainly don't get a driver's view. Really interesting vid. Thanks. :)
Now you have something to do on a miserable day - enjoy the rest of the line for fun 😊
Great front seat view .I AM JEALOUS
Same here. I never get into the cab.
Worked at nth brighton 30 - 40 years ago. One morning metallic christmas decorations hanging on my bridge close to overhead. Very scarey,people can do some stange things
At the worst you would have got a brief white flash 😊
What a great ride - thanks for the upload :)
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Love that engine sound bro 😁
Greetings from Brazil 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Mr. Trensurb 😊👍
exactly what i searched for
I don’t know if you are looking for the other direction as well, but if so you will find it amongst my other a Melbourne train views. Melbourne - Driver's View Trains
ruclips.net/p/PLLtOIHp49XNDtaNr2H41P2th0S56s6bIH
I live in Elsternwick so I’m always on this train and this was the most fun ride lol
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Was it you who asked about the North Melbourne station bypass line? Vline used it yesterday on my 4.30pm return from Bendigo, the station had 3 metro trains at the time...
I don’t think so. I thought that Vline Trains generally stayed outside the electrified tracks to Sunshine.
Obviously the video was filmed well before Metro Tunnel works at South Yarra were started. Completely different now! For those that don't know what I'm talking about, As you leave South Yarra it is completely different now. At 2:19 where the ballast is across the tracks all the trees on the left are no longer there. They have been cleared for the decline and portals for the tunnels to South Kensington in the west. (9 kms of twin tunnels).
Next time I am down there, I will have to take a look. I also should take a look at other level crossing removal project work.
Yep. It's a big construction site now....
I'm being pedantic now, this is not a level crossing removal project, it's a completely new line with 5 new underground stations to relieve the pressure on the City Circle Loop by taking the Dandenong, Cranbourne/Pakenham lines out of the loop and into to their own tunnels out to Sunbury. The only thing that WASN'T added to the project - and I'll get some flack for this - was to add an interchange at South Yarra, primarily to cut costs. (The whole project is estimated at $11B). ..... Ian
Hawthorn Valley I don’t recall anybody saying that it was anything to do with level crossing removal.
Original comment was to the effect that scenes from this video have changed in places due to the Metro tunnel project which as I understand it has nothing to do with a Metro as seen in Paris or even Sydney. It’s just a new underground line for the existing suburban train network.
As I said I was being pedantic. I may have misunderstood your comment "I also should take a look at other level crossing removal project work." I apologise if I offended you with my post, that was not intended.
I went past the works in the train about 10 days ago and it is a hive of activity. The Frankston and Cranbourne/Pakenham tracks are to be realigned soon to allow for entry to/from the tunnels for Cranbourne/Pakenham trains to/from Sunbury. ... Ian
Tonight on *_Why is this on my RUclips recommended videos list_*
Seriously though, it's ironic given what'll happen tomorrow... More power to the staff and PTUA.
Also, I'd like to see this done on the V/Locitys; alas, their rules prevent it from happening, and the best view you can get is from the rear-view of an old N-Class long-distance hauler.
You just need to find a VLine driver who will do the filming discretely.
That was really cool to watch thank you.
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thx for sharing I havenot been there goe about 20 years .
Time for another trip I think.
Brings back memories travelling home to Sandy in the 1990's :)
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Nice coverage..
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I grew up in Hampton caught the Sandy train from 74 till 96.
I don’t think much has changed except for newer trains.
quite a short section from the signal departing prahran to the next fixed signal before windsor looked like a blind corner departing prahran aswell wonder if drivers would get double reds before arriving into windsor and how many over the years would have gone through the SPAD
That is part of the art of ‘learning the road’. Knowing where to slow down enough just in case the signal around the corner is at Stop. How many SPADS there were, we will probably never know.
One of the big things for route knowledge. When passing a warning signal, is the next signal before or after the platform
I’m surprised that this didn’t become light rail. I’m glad that it didn’t but considering st kilda and Port Melbourne, it’s a surprise
Vincent Weatherly No surprise really. Saint Kilda and Port Melbourne are rather short lines and never carried many passengers in the railway days. Certainly the tram brought a lot more passengers. Trams couldn’t carry enough people for Sandringham, I believe.
great editing.thanx m8
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a new way of breaking into a bank !
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So how did the Siemens end up in the wall? The last bit of the video - 21:48 shows red over red with orange aspect so 15kph into the siding. Was this the case when that train ran over the buffer or was it a complete brake failure coming into the siding at a higher speed? Wouldn’t have thought at 15kph it would have got that far? Don’t recall the incident so quite interested. 👍. Love you videos as always being a born and bred Melbournian. 👍
Awesome video I like your work.
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tressteleg1 thanks
Greeting from a colleague who works at FSS.
All change platform 13 all change not takin' passengers all change please. :)
It always amuses me that Melbourne terminates trains at Flinders Street, the busiest station, and sends them off in the opposite direction. Nobody else does that, running the trains through to somewhere where they can get out of the way to reverse. No wonder Melbourne trains seem always to be a shambles.
Great video
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Thank you for the trip on ‘our’ line. I noted the boom gates came down very late. Has the sequence been changed lately?
Richard Catchlove Thanks. Unfortunately I am only an occasional visitor to Melbourne so I cannot comment about the boom gates. I just present the videos as my driver has recorded them for me.
Question: Do train drivers press something to close the boom gates at certain places while others are automatic???
Josh Clark No. If they are not automatic, being tied in with the automatic signals, they are controlled from a signal box either along the line or at some central location.
@@tressteleg1 Thanks alos could you do Cranbourne or Dandenong line??
Nearly all rail lines have been done in one direction. You should open RUclips and search for ‘Driver’s View’
and the name of the line you want and nearly always you will find it.
Most of these train stations are over 50 years old, I know Richmond was opened in 1959
On The branch itself, I expect quite a few stations will be over 100 years old.
Thought red + stop nice ride though
If you are referring to the train going into the yard it had a low speed caution signal (small yellow beneath the two reds) that let the train proceed at a maximum speed of 15kph.
Really good Thank you
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How long you been a driving trains for? Love the videos and least you did no crash into the wall
I have never legally driven a train but the cameraman driver has quite a few years of experience.
tressteleg1 so only Trams? And thank you for the reply mate
True. I am working on a tram career video right now. As for trains, I had quite a few ‘sly drives’ in Sydney in the 1980s plus a few in Melbourne. That will be the subject of a later video but very few were recorded.
Do you know if the back platform at Brighton Beach is used?
Edit: there's baulk's on the track so obviously not. The trains start at middle Brighton I think
You probably are correct.
It's unsafe because of the slope of the platform and also to the lack of trains needing to terminate there. They don't even use it for stabling because you can't inspect the undercarriage on the platform side.
@@petercheems8118 does it slope downhill or uphill?
@@lachlantrainvideos down towards the track. So unsafe for prams and such. Significantly too.
@@petercheems8118 oh ok
At 9:58, what’s that 3rd light on the signal for (the one not on)?
its either a calling on/shunt signal. Most likely due to the points ahead
I had not noticed it before but the signal itself is a Home signal, controlled by a signal box. However I don’t see a sig. box but it may be at the next station. When the box is closed, an A would be illuminated telling the drivers that they should treat it as an Automatic signal. IE if stuck on Red, the driver can proceed with care after stopping. Less likely is the possibility that a reduced speed could be illuminated.
Thanks all
Tressteleg1 is correct. It's the illuminated letter A except it's not illuminated in this instance and the description is correct. However I have no idea why it's "switched in" as there is no apparent reason as to why it should be. This is Elsternwick which is one of few locations that have annett key locked points. The points can only be manually operated with a special key which is inserted into the point lever.
It will be to do with the manually operated crossover points up ahead. These are (now rarely) used to transfer trains to the other track if the tracks were blocked further on.
Great video as always. Growing up in Beaumaris during late 50's and , when I started work in the mid 60's, I used to get VR bus to Sandringham then train into the city.Have you considered producing a driver's view of the VR bus which now goes to Southland (I think)? ps If you don't mind my asking , how as the name "tressteleg" derived?
I’ll stay away from buses for now. I doubt if my regulars would be interested.
I previously worked for the post office and sent telegrams. The Automatic switching centre (Phone exchange for the teleprinters was called TRESS. People whose sole job was to send telegrams were Telegraphists. Thus tressteleg1. See How Telegrams Were Sent.
@@tressteleg1 Ok. Thanks..
@@tressteleg1 Thanks.
Ooooooooh! A Siemens train got crashed at Sandringham station in 2012.
Yeah, ha ha!
Looks connex still love Melbourne
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That was a good video
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Why is it going so slow
I forget whether this train was following another, but looking at the signals should show you whether it was or not. If not, I’m sure you will find that the train was adhering to the timetable which is never much of a challenge on this line.
These trains are sooooooooooooooo olddddddddddddddd. They were there back in the eightys.................
So what? There is nothing wrong with them and in fact the brakes are far more reliable than those useless modern Siemens trains. There is no doubt that the brake design, not bad driving, put the train crashing into the bank.
@@tressteleg1 Hi thank you for all your hard work in presenting the vidoes. I am a retired truck driver now but remember the Siemens trains over shooting the stops and immediately knew the problem was in the SBS braking system. I notice going from standard brakes to a SBS system, stopping time is a little bit longer. I was going to call metro about it but thought they would think what would a truck driver know about it. Cheers.
I could be wrong with this but from what I remember the Siemens, which had steps of increasing force, were OK on dry rail but in wet conditions one or more steps were too great for the conditions which locked up the wheels causing a locked wheels slide. As such, retardation is somewhat less than normal so the whole train slides beyond the intended stopping point. Loss of traction on a road vehicle is mostly no big deal, but on a train or tram (I know about them!) there is little retardation.
@@tressteleg1 Hi, thank you for your reply. I meant to say ABS braking system which prevents brake lock up by the processor detector and applies and releases. The reverser system also could come into play as its a very good retarder in slowing the train.i know for a fact a Volvo truck a nice piece of kit can lock up the rear wheels in the wet with a Voit retarder system is set on high Anyway interesting thoughts. I thank you so much for your presentations you go the whole ten yards in the explanations, love those signal rules. Cheers
Alll good thanks.
Of course I know what abs is. If wheels start to spin on acceleration trains cut power then start powering again when spinning has stopped. But as far as I know there is nothing equivalent in braking. The point is, if a surge, to the next Step, locks all wheels at once, the train will think it has stopped so would see no reason to do anything. And if approaching the end of the track, the driver may not have enough time to release the brakes then start to carefully apply the brakes again.
Any chance of a ride in the drivers cabin that would be awesome
Only if you can find a driver stupid enough to risk their job doing so.
tressteleg1 I remember years ago drivers were happy to take passengers in there cabin
True, but it extremely illegal now. Not even other drivers are allowed a cab ride unless instructed to do so.
@@tressteleg1 Now I know why I have seen drivers riding with the punters.
Exactly. In the past some cabs were full of drivers going home etc. A bit crowded...
discovering video to Tait Sounds 1 Flinders St to Sandringham :)
A good combination for this new Video.
Hampton STREET not Hampton road
17:31 don't you think it's unethical to blow whistle so close to houses? Especially at night. Do drivers not blow the whistle at night, to prevent disturbing people living in those homes?
Flizey Those posts with the white crosses on them are whistle boards and the driver must blow the train whistle at that point. He has no choice. Just be thankful it is not America where all sorts of long convoluted whistle codes are blown at any time. These train lines were running long before the present people bought their houses. If you live near a train line, you should expect to hear trains.
@@tressteleg1 just curious. What happens if drivers don't blow at white crosses?
Flizey I’m not a railway man so don’t know exactly what, but initially they would probably be warned. I doubt if they would get sacked over it but I dare say that Metro has certain disciplinary actions. Maybe they could be sent home for a few days without pay. But I’m only guessing. The point is, they all obey the whistle signs.
Can u do craigieburn route please
When I get enough video, maybe next summer.
Life in the fast lane!
Fast in Perth means something quite different. Your trains really are fast!
@@tressteleg1 , the 2 new lines are fast. the ones they call 'heritage' aren't really. one thing this system has going for it is regular track maintenance. there are no, repeat no mudholes.
If you are referring to Melbourne, without doubt the trackwork standard is far inferior to that of Sydney and Brisbane. Those systems have not had wooden sleepers anywhere for a very long time although I’m not sure about Brisbane’s Doomben line which is rather insignificant.
I don’t often ride in Sydney but my last memory was of trains gliding along so smoothly you barely know you are moving. That may be so on lines just like Mernda and sky rail sections but not often the case elsewhere.
Why is this on my recommendations?
Nothing to do with me. Ask RUclips.
Somehow reminds me of Chernobyl surrounding deserted town
Such slow trains ancient railway lines the only thing they get right is the spelling on the infringement notices when people don’t pay
It's less than 2 mins between stations....what do you want, an elevated bullet train? 🙄🤦🏻♂️
(P.S: Pay!)
This is one of the slowest lines. Look how close the stations are. This is how fast the trains accelerate. They can't accelerate any faster otherwise they get wheel slip
i love comengs
When they disappear, there will be nothing left that does not make weird electronic noises instead of gear sounds. The Comeng have character.
@@tressteleg1 yea, so sad
It's look like Indian Railway system
But when somebody gets run over by a train, we tend to stop the train and not keep rolling past like India does 😊
@@tressteleg1 indian trains also upgraded as u said
Due to the population and number of people using the trains, they cannot be stopped for hours on end. If a person gets hit by a train, the train stops till the body is removed. Driver is changed (if required) and the train proceeds.
Even when the blast happened in Mumbai, trains were back up and running within a couple of hours. That will never happen here. In Sydney, the whole line shuts for just a medical emergency - for hours on end at times.
@@vijgai3 definitely
On Mumbai trains, you're lucky to have a roof under your feet.
Best job in the world. Pay is awesome too. You train drivers must be on about $50/hour + penaltys.
I have no idea what the pay rate is for drivers. But a management which is nice to work for is also important. I’m not so sure that this exists in Melbourne.
It's very slow running!
Welcome to Melbourne!
You should take a look at the New York MTA J/Z train... its slower than this
Gaël Fortier 😊
It's one of the slowest lines with a max speed of 70 kph. Stations are close so there's not many opportunities to go faster than 70
all this video does- is remind me not to live in Melbourne
So what is your Shangri La now?
@@tressteleg1 ...the new driverless Sydney Metro
Shangri La is a perfect place to live. I grew up there. It was interesting enough in the 50s and 60s but I certainly would not want to live there. It’s overfull, and has been for years. As for that driverless metro thing, ho-hum. Okay for people who want to stand up for half an hour or more but it should’ve been a regular train line. Automation was just a ploy to bust the rail union.