How to count in Rock and Roll drum intro from Led Zeppelin

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  • Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
  • #shorts #ledzeppelin #rockandroll #johnbonham
    This may be one of those "I was today years old when I learned this the first time" for you, a great piece of drumming that confounds many a bar band. Hopefully this clears it up - here's the right way to hear and play that drum intro from John Bonham.
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  • @williamfotiou7577
    @williamfotiou7577 3 месяца назад +15

    I've been a drummer for 45 years, I just learned something fantastic!

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov Месяц назад

      Don’t worry look up the Rick Beato interview he does with Danny Carey and Danny said he recently found out about this as well. and he’s one of the best drummers of all time

    • @williamfotiou7577
      @williamfotiou7577 Месяц назад

      @chadgrov who told you I was worried? Look out for yourself and don't worry about me!

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov Месяц назад

      @@williamfotiou7577 magatard

  • @user-re9wd3re5o
    @user-re9wd3re5o 4 месяца назад +15

    Best explanation of that intro in the history of ever! Awesome!

  • @kg30004
    @kg30004 4 месяца назад +44

    Oh man never made the Chuck Berry connection, too cool

    • @AC-gw4qu
      @AC-gw4qu 4 месяца назад +2

      It's Keep A Knockin by Little Richard, not Berry.

    • @davidmolteno6982
      @davidmolteno6982 2 месяца назад

      I'd heard the Little Richard connection, but because we all know Bonham tended to play to the guitar part., this guy is definitely on to something here 👍 it fits the Chuck Berry intro perfectly

  • @marions.120
    @marions.120 4 месяца назад +11

    I’ve only heard the Little Richard connection, great knowledge on your part!

  • @coolbreeze9060
    @coolbreeze9060 4 месяца назад +17

    Now this makes sense. You are awesome for showing this and the way you did it was awesome!!!!!

  • @mattjns
    @mattjns 4 месяца назад +7

    Danny Carey from Tool changed this for me forever last week in his Beato interview;
    “And a one •• and a two •• and a one • two • three • four”
    Works perfectly. 😂

  • @nathancl2k
    @nathancl2k 4 месяца назад +3

    That's a great insight regarding the Chuck Berry intro!

  • @mr.sister1059
    @mr.sister1059 4 месяца назад +28

    Bonham was not Mimicking Chuck berry on Intro, He Got intro from " Keep a Knockin " from Little Richard, give it a listen.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  4 месяца назад +4

      Well, sort of. The open hat and snare technique, yes, is a nod to that but not the beat. The beat is different and was what t I was trying to speak to. But you're right, super similar to Keep a knockin

    • @carlosalbertogomez1391
      @carlosalbertogomez1391 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@12footchainNO SIR¡¡AND AGAIN NOOOOOO¡¡is the same drum intro¡¡¡are you deaf bro???

    • @guyincognito1423
      @guyincognito1423 3 месяца назад +2

      Bingo!

    • @williamfotiou7577
      @williamfotiou7577 2 месяца назад +1

      @12footchain good ears bud! You nailed it, AGAIN, YOU NAILED IT! 🥁🥁🥁

    • @td-12kx53
      @td-12kx53 2 месяца назад +1

      That's exactly right and he also comes in on the and of three, as opposed to coming in on the one.

  • @mauricemcguillicutty4746
    @mauricemcguillicutty4746 3 дня назад

    I've noticed this for a long time and without the count in like you do, it tricks the ear. Thanks for explaining this!

  • @Ronnie_Roy
    @Ronnie_Roy 4 месяца назад +1

    man I have loved Bonham all my life and never made that connection. this fills my heart with joy man ✌️❤️🇬🇧

  • @squeedum4893
    @squeedum4893 3 месяца назад +1

    This is the best breakdown I've seen so far. I've always put the "ONE" on the first snare hit and it always threw me off. It's actually "And-Four-And" I think.

  • @houmm08
    @houmm08 4 месяца назад +4

    THANK YOU!!!!

  • @keithdonohue4631
    @keithdonohue4631 4 месяца назад +4

    Amazing! Best guitar channel ever!

  • @brianmay3669
    @brianmay3669 Месяц назад

    I love a great upbeat probably more than a great downbeat, and it’s simply magic hearing John and the Lads dancing in the space between both of them like this. If that tune is a 3/2 signature, even more magical!

  • @chiptriplett655
    @chiptriplett655 4 месяца назад +3

    Wow! Very cool man! Love your videos and tutorials

  • @grasscutter1919
    @grasscutter1919 Месяц назад

    Best explanation and example I’ve heard yet.

  • @daveEmartin
    @daveEmartin 4 месяца назад +2

    Yeah! This has always baffled me. Thanks.

  • @reghunt2487
    @reghunt2487 3 месяца назад

    something I've been meaning to look into, thanks! and the Check Berry thing, cool!

  • @mrsimonalewis
    @mrsimonalewis 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you!

  • @michaelstevens972
    @michaelstevens972 2 месяца назад

    Are you kidding me?! I love how expained that so well

  • @oicsaywhat
    @oicsaywhat 2 месяца назад

    Never thought of that now it makes total sense

  • @Nobody_Important_Yea
    @Nobody_Important_Yea 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow

  • @wheatproject3967
    @wheatproject3967 Месяц назад

    The band arguments that were started just on this song intro alone! Lol.... Jethro Tull's Teacher intro was another for us back in the day when we were young and naive

  • @chriswright2250
    @chriswright2250 4 месяца назад +1

    Cool, never knew this ❤.

  • @laserspin
    @laserspin 2 месяца назад

    Awesome breakdown of a classic tune. Now I know when to start playing the opening riff👍🏼

  • @friedrich1957
    @friedrich1957 4 месяца назад +1

    Yes......thank you!!!

  • @Richard-wu5ce
    @Richard-wu5ce Месяц назад

    That was very cool
    Thanks !

  • @johnjacoLMSW
    @johnjacoLMSW Месяц назад

    Thank you for how the 8 count works with this!!!

  • @user-ob3to5tk3p
    @user-ob3to5tk3p 2 месяца назад

    Correct. Permanently changed how i hear that song. Freaking cool thanks!!

  • @markpr73
    @markpr73 2 месяца назад

    I’ve always loved tripping up potential drummers for bands I’ve been in by testing them to see how they count this intro. God, there’s a lot of guys out there that simply do not have a clue. Once you hear the real count-in it’s easy to remember it.

  • @Tewall839
    @Tewall839 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice

  • @hazor777
    @hazor777 3 месяца назад

    Nice tidbit of info - putting it with Chuck Berry it made a lot of sense
    All those guys , everybody, loved Chuck Berry

  • @douglaschristine8387
    @douglaschristine8387 4 месяца назад

    Your the best and so was John and company.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Месяц назад

    Love your work

  • @ShapochkinKirill
    @ShapochkinKirill 4 месяца назад

    This hasn't been a mystery for a looooooong time but I have to say that NEVER it has been explained as well in such a short clip. Plus all the cultural/history added. Good job!

  • @kerryfromaj9032
    @kerryfromaj9032 4 месяца назад

    Wild…
    Thanks !

  • @markybgoode
    @markybgoode 4 месяца назад

    Brilliant! Thanx!

  • @avantegarde365
    @avantegarde365 4 месяца назад +1

    yes actually I did that before for a gig and it was a tricky pick-up, particularly when the drummer isnt quite up to Bonham standards. other Bonham's are D'yer Maker and When the Levee Breaks

  • @pauldbrown1010
    @pauldbrown1010 4 месяца назад

    Genius connection!! Love it!

  • @josephgenovese1146
    @josephgenovese1146 4 месяца назад

    That was cool 😎

  • @ontheone9559
    @ontheone9559 4 месяца назад

    Oh man how cool is that!

  • @martydibergi5228
    @martydibergi5228 3 месяца назад

    yes yes and yes Awesome❤

  • @puffnstufflovelove6550
    @puffnstufflovelove6550 Месяц назад

    My head just exploded!

  • @scotttyson7970
    @scotttyson7970 2 месяца назад

    Wow , thanks man

  • @Whatdisaypt1and2
    @Whatdisaypt1and2 4 месяца назад

    Never hit subscribe so fast. That was A1 content. Keep it up.

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 4 месяца назад

    very good.....and i love the song...always have...since it first came out....yep

  • @tommyabernathy9880
    @tommyabernathy9880 2 месяца назад

    Ha! Very cool!!!

  • @rolandjgutierrez7737
    @rolandjgutierrez7737 4 месяца назад

    You nailed it...RocknRollflat5

  • @ferdinandorocco8168
    @ferdinandorocco8168 3 месяца назад

    Zep the best!!

  • @MrYatesj1
    @MrYatesj1 4 месяца назад

    Nice!

  • @robertkees6048
    @robertkees6048 3 месяца назад

    Yes that a was a very nice number from the band, and now we present in living color, the Lawrence Welk singers in a wonderful rendition of Dipsy Doodle in the Noodle. Now take it away.

  • @jagoodman88
    @jagoodman88 4 месяца назад +5

    Jeff Buckley figured that out first

    • @curragh4635
      @curragh4635 4 месяца назад

      Explain please

    • @carlosalbertogomez1391
      @carlosalbertogomez1391 4 месяца назад

      ​@@curragh4635one day jeff buckley got into tool's rehearsal room and told them.danny carey told this to rick beato some time ago.its on video

  • @danielhoward8354
    @danielhoward8354 2 месяца назад

    Brainiac right there.

  • @Rectitude4U
    @Rectitude4U 2 месяца назад

    Subscribed.

  • @johnnyboo8243
    @johnnyboo8243 2 месяца назад

    awesome

  • @victorakbar8153
    @victorakbar8153 4 месяца назад

    Yeay, thanks.

  • @kurtniederstadt97
    @kurtniederstadt97 4 месяца назад

    Dude! Dats da money brau! Yes! Thanks for the info

  • @tedmartinez5457
    @tedmartinez5457 4 месяца назад

    Awesome! I'm subscribing now!!!

  • @daijones101
    @daijones101 Месяц назад

    John Bonham was mimicking😮 the start of Little Richard you keep a knocking

  • @benjaminbaird9303
    @benjaminbaird9303 Месяц назад

    Sweet

  • @JosephBrazzo-cw5fw
    @JosephBrazzo-cw5fw 2 месяца назад

    Nice like it

  • @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk
    @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk Месяц назад

    Tune was generated from Little Richard's You Hear Me Knocking jam

  • @CutiePie-hh3gg
    @CutiePie-hh3gg 4 месяца назад +1

    Only proves how influential Chuck Berry was

  • @encycooper
    @encycooper 4 месяца назад

    Good one

  • @averyadrian1534
    @averyadrian1534 2 месяца назад

    Cool

  • @PeteEllson5656
    @PeteEllson5656 4 месяца назад

    Damn!

  • @shanebrbich5698
    @shanebrbich5698 4 месяца назад +1

    Haha... You watched the Danny Carey interview with Rick Beato
    👍🇦🇺

  • @jimbo7445
    @jimbo7445 Месяц назад

    cool make sense

  • @kevinvanrensburg2468
    @kevinvanrensburg2468 Месяц назад

    Oh, very interesting

  • @user-vn2vp8xl2k
    @user-vn2vp8xl2k 3 месяца назад

    cool

  • @Peter-sk5vg
    @Peter-sk5vg Месяц назад

    Cute!! I knew it wasn't rocket science

  • @philipStClair-mm4jq
    @philipStClair-mm4jq 2 месяца назад

    That was cool and kinda mind blowing!

  • @TheRealX-Man
    @TheRealX-Man 4 месяца назад

    I don't know why but I've always thought this could be a beatles song, I imagine Paul singing it, similar to helter-skelter

  • @BrazilMJ
    @BrazilMJ 3 месяца назад

    Crazy fact… they were jamming when he did that and Page riffed off that drumming… they felt they had something… 15 minutes.. yes 15 minutes later the band wrote Rock & Roll. The whole fourth album was done in 15 days

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  3 месяца назад

      I love that. Why doesn't that happen anymore

    • @daveormand4977
      @daveormand4977 2 месяца назад

      Those are usually the best recordings

  • @thomasd1513
    @thomasd1513 Месяц назад

    🤯

  • @aaronreeves8376
    @aaronreeves8376 3 месяца назад

    It’s originally based on Little Richard’s Keep a Knocking drum intro

    • @vincentzito3933
      @vincentzito3933 2 месяца назад

      Exactly, I don't know where this Chuck Berry crap came from... But I guess if you want to know about drum lines, just ask the guitarist.😂😂😂😂

  • @littlecrow6484
    @littlecrow6484 4 месяца назад

    I wish somebody would figure out the count-in for the Beatles' Drive My Car.

  • @averyadrian1534
    @averyadrian1534 2 месяца назад

    That guitar tone also sound Chuck Berry-ish

  • @loghog4392
    @loghog4392 17 дней назад

    One can learn a lot from Chuck Barry.

  • @geofftayloruk
    @geofftayloruk 2 месяца назад

    Someone else who saw the Dan Carey interview with Rick Beato... 😅

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 месяца назад

      Hey - content policeman - yeah I saw it - and yeah it's been knowledge out there for many years prior, not everything on Beato is the first original thought, and I'm not claiming it is for me either. Just an interesting topic that appeals to many and many hadn't seen it yet. So yeah nothing for me to apologize for. But by all means keep trying to dunk on people if it makes you feel better.

  • @odgeUK
    @odgeUK 4 месяца назад +2

    I still don't get it. When you said "And 1" you seemed to drag the time on that. The Chuck Berry thing helps though!!

  • @richinoable
    @richinoable 4 месяца назад

    Far out. Never heard that one before

  • @Pimp-Master
    @Pimp-Master 2 месяца назад

    Actually it's a little Richard drummer, Mr guitar player. Thanks for showing up will call you when we need you

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 месяца назад

      Not quite. Yeah he borrowed the open hat sound from keep a knockin, but not the beat. My point was about the timing and beat.

  • @408lurks
    @408lurks 4 месяца назад

    Well done

  • @herbiesnerd
    @herbiesnerd 3 месяца назад

    I thought it was from a little richard song. Never heard it being from Chuck Berry until now.

  • @jcivantos
    @jcivantos Месяц назад

    The problem with this explanation is that he is mimicking the drum intro from Little Richard’s Keep on Knocking. So I guess wouldn’t that guy who played for LR be the one who mimicked Chuck Berry?

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Месяц назад +1

      Good question but in my opinion no. The sound of the drum riff yes, the open hat and snare sound yes. But the actual beat/cadence that the CB riff is, is not how the LR one goes. Hopefully that made sense, difficult to explain over comments text

  • @silat13
    @silat13 4 месяца назад

    Hmmmm. I heard that "Bonham had based the "Rock and Roll" intro on the phrasing of Little Richard's "Keep a Knockin' ", which was recorded in 1957 with Charles Connor on drums (Connor was famous for his "Choo Choo Train" beat, which consisted of successive 8th notes with a loud backbeat)".
    What do you think?.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  4 месяца назад +1

      The sound and open hat approach yes 100%, but the beat phrase itself is different and lines up with the chuck berry style guitar riff. The keep a knockin phrase is a little different

  • @erichkaanikin3555
    @erichkaanikin3555 4 месяца назад +1

    My bands (per drummers) always worked it after 8 drum beats as he says, then guitar starts at 1&2&3. I feel misled to count as if it’s 8 beats per measure as he seems to indicate. Perhaps I’m confused 🤔

  • @stuartromig9576
    @stuartromig9576 Месяц назад

    Great explanation...but it was fron Little Richard...😊😊😊

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Месяц назад

      Not that simple though, right? Sound yes, beat no

  • @CarlosCostaX
    @CarlosCostaX Месяц назад

    You dont need a metronome, you just need to listen to the drummer.

  • @davitofarito
    @davitofarito 4 месяца назад +1

    Too bad Jimmy Page didn't sit Phil Collins down and explain this before their set at Live Aid!

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  4 месяца назад +1

      True! Lol!

    • @michaelcelani8325
      @michaelcelani8325 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@12footchain...😮❤ Very Clever
      discovery...
      What is 12 foot chain a reference to ?
      A. DNA sequence. ?
      Funny...my first Rock Concert ever
      was in July 1969, Asbury Park
      Convention Center, Led Zepplin...
      Joe Cocker was opening act whom
      I had never heard of.
      Jim page had the violin bow and
      was wearing a red Cowboy hat.
      Thanks for you're perceptive
      observation. Mike. Celani

  • @outoaguitar3320
    @outoaguitar3320 Месяц назад

    Give me a break when they were fooling around with it Jimmy asked him what he was doing it was the beginning to a little Richard song you keep on knocking

  • @deadshot4245
    @deadshot4245 4 месяца назад

    i just think you keep a knockin basically

  • @jackmakackov7077
    @jackmakackov7077 2 месяца назад +1

    its on the E of 3 not the and of 2

  • @roughcutguitars
    @roughcutguitars 4 месяца назад +1

    (Um, watch Beato?) 😉

  • @shawnfoxfirth9684
    @shawnfoxfirth9684 Месяц назад

    Gene Kruppa laid that down Before Bonham and Connor .. .

  • @robiandolo
    @robiandolo 2 месяца назад

    Actually, it mimics a Little Richard tune "You Keep a Knocking But You Can't Come In"! ruclips.net/video/ar_hCwa_DWM/видео.htmlsi=kk9Vs7eJTExrYzUI

  • @kevysrandomstuff5835
    @kevysrandomstuff5835 Месяц назад

    He need no crap like that he could just start anywhere

  • @37BopCity
    @37BopCity 3 месяца назад

    He's not doing Chuck Berry --- Bonzo copied that from Little Richard's "Keep A Knockin'" with original drums by the great Earl Palmer. This has been written about numerous times.

  • @blakewilkerson9695
    @blakewilkerson9695 4 месяца назад

    People don’t realize ALOT OF musicians don’t use and1 and2 and3 lol 😂