Planetary Freecoaster Review: The Future of BMX?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Planetary freecoaster wheels like the BSD Revolution, Colony Swarm and Alienation Venus have become increasingly popular as of late. But will this all-new design take over the freecoaster market? We'll let you be the judge as we review the pros and cons of the planetary freecoaster system. These hubs could likely be the future of BMX freecoasters.
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With this coaster I can crankflip with no issues, I don't run my bottom bracket super duper tight just enough to where my crank arms have no wobble plus 1/4 turn. I've only had to do maintenance after a few months of riding once and that was just tightening up the outer cones. Some of my friends have been experimenting with under and over greasing these hubs to see the different results and they all like them.
Great to know! I was able to kick one around but I also kind of suck at that trick, lol. That's when we loosened the chain a bit more and spun them by hand (as seen in the video) to get a better idea. Different setups will vary for sure. Thanks for the info.
Would be great to see a breakdown and comparison with all the planetary hubs.
There are a lot of dos and don’t that people still are unsure about them.
I’m currently riding the bsd revolution, haven’t had a single problem with the hub. Been riding heavy on it for a good 3 months and so far so good
The BSD, Colony and Alienation are all nearly identical internally. Check out Colony’s disassembly video in the description. I believe the Colony does have an extra o-ring on the axle, however.
@@danscompvideos I know this is a year old comment, but what happens with the revolution when your feet are not on the pedals and you're rolling forward (or backward), do the pedals stay where you set them?
@@merrickloveland4076they don't stay in the same place
Bonus points for the RAD shoes!
Have two of these. A right and left . The squeak was fixed after I watched it at 4:40 in video. Thanks!
back pedal went from cruiser to fixed gear ; gyro to freecoast but framing weight in its entirety at hub perspective never selected a cubism center point
I love my bsd and breaks are a great safety net for those who choose to use them though my bsd did get quieter after about a month it still works great though
Might need cleaning or it's time to change the O-ring, it will work even better!
@@nightriderbmxshop6768 where can I buy new O-rings?
Hey Dans comp what’s your take on the cult astronomical wheel ? Lmk would love to invest in one 🔥🔥🔥🔥
centercaps allow impact almost to natural mend
My BSD is goods so far 🤘🏼
For the braked riders like me the negative of going to fast backward is a non-issue
True. I should have specified brakeless. - Mike
You brake too hard and just go over the back wheel lmao, I ride brakeless so I think I could just stick my foot in the front wheel while going backwards to slow myself doen
I don't do crankflips, never cared for them, so 1st issue... not an issue. And I ride brakes, so tiretaps and going too fast backwards, also not an issue. Yeah, I'd like to try them, even though I'm an old school rider who has ridden freewheels and cassettes for 90% of the time (I've tried clutch based freecoasters. Kinda cool but not for me.)
Been riding the bsd one and I'd like to share my experience regarding maintainance. I first greased it all, thinking it was something like a freecoaster, the more grease the better. Totally wrong, it started malfunctioning. I had to degrease it all and try to remove all the grease that got in the cluth. Nowadays I have it as clean as possible, no grease whatsoever. Probably a bit of lube in the contact areas, such as the pawls but honestly, way too little. In other words, in this hub less is more.
Make sure cones are properly tight and the inner parts are clean and I guess that's it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, this was just my experience but I'm open to more suggestions/tips.
You should do a video on the new hybrid FC hubs from Eclat and WTP
pancor mk3 stainless intervened with kinetic output perspective
Tread locker only missing and this done like a art
Lol...you act like brakes don't exist. Anyway, I had the very first planetary coaster in the United States from freenight and mine is still running great. Years later all I had to do maintenance wise was change the oring.
Also that last fakie x-up down that dock was a banger!
Hey, I love brake tricks! Lol. The vast majority of FC riders are brakeless, but yes I did fail to mention that. Especially for anyone new to FCs having a brake would help a ton at first.
Awesome to hear. So far we are still loving the planetary style. After the initial squeak fix mine has been rolling smooth. And thanks! - Mike
@@danscompvideos Ya keep killing and thank you for mentioning Freenight as the origins since many people assume bsd made it.
@@DouglasThompson 🙌🏼
i was able to do tire taps with pedal pressure on the bsd revalution hub
besides the little hug faux octave horsepower club origination claim the free coast perspective is a dynamic interval that makes handlebar fluidity upon impact opinionated
why planetary hubs don't use multi point engagement pawls like more modern cassettes?
You could solve the out of control fakey by simply having a light touch on a brake lever. I've never been a brakelsss rider anyways... too many sketchy hills and dirt riding where I live. Or that is what I like to tell myself because going brakeless scares the !@#$ out of me. :P
The o-ring in my bsd revilution broke when i tried to pull it out like that, so be careful..
Do you have a spare one? Please contact us or BSD to get the V2 O-ring.
Awesome review I want one super bad.
Thanks Kyle. So far so good. Hopefully more people jump on these and see the potential benefits. So far so good in our testing, minus that slightly annoying squeak but it was an easy fix.
I have un sealed wheels and they are both bent af😅😂I would love the theory set🙏
I don’t like the idea of hardened steel on hardened steel meshing at high speed with such a small contact point
So add a rear brake?
nice video! more informative videos please!
Probably a stupid question but, what is the difference between buying the BS revolution hub and buying the actual BSD revolution wheel? (A part from the fact that if you just buy the hub you can add it to any wheel). What I’m trying to understand is, is the wheel that comes with it (orange and black option) specially made to go with the hub?
No you can add the Revolution hub to any rim and it's the same hub. Going with the complete wheel option just makes it easier if you want something that's ready to go out of the box, as opposed to building your own wheel. It's not specifically design for any particular rim.
@@danscompvideos oh ok! Awesome! Glad you got my question because I wasn’t sure I wasn’t explaining myself right. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
My hub doesnt freecoast on fakie, its like completely random whether or not it will coast or engage in faiie for me. Any tips/fixes???
Same….
@mihalespinglae642 you gotta make sure you are not putting too much pressure on your front foot when you start the fakie. Because if you start to pedal forward when you start to fakie, the hub will engage and not coast. I think this was my problem and it seems to be doing better now. Lmk if you have more questions!
Thanks so much for your response. Is your hub working in the Right way now?
In his Video peddaling forward didnt seem to be no Problem at all. That‘s why I was wondering
@mihalespinglae642 it was working great for a while! Until recently something came loose and now sometimes the hub won't engage when I go to pedal:/ so I switched back to my cassette for now but I'll try to get the BSD hub fixed and working properly again.
Could I put a drop of try flow to eliminate squeak?
Yes, you can remove just the driver and spray a bit of chain lube on top of the clutch. No need to remove the clutch from the hub, just spray on it.
We need a 16 tooth cog ⚙️. Now 5 of these hubs are on the market, but none support two decades of BMX bikes that use 44/16 gearing.
Why would you ride 44-16 dude? People have been riding 25-9 and 28-10 for like over fifteen years bro 😂
@@colingellner9939 Because my bike is a $5,000 Redline and I'm using a $15 coaster brake made for a $100 bike. I can't use a 9 tooth rear cog.
@@AmazingChinaToday Agree - thats why i hope a female axel bolt will come, so i can use it on my old 86 Haro Master 3/8 rear dropout :)
@@kentakeura1617 There are hubs with female axle bolts, but all are using a 9 tooth cog. ⚙️ 😭
No company will make a 16t driver. Especially on a free coaster. Only profile has those.
Where that manual pad at lol?
Come to Indiana lol
A few months ago I bought the Bsd Revolution hub and now I sometimes have the problem that the pawls don't engage when I pedal forward. The clicking of the hub is also no longer there all the time. Unfortunately, tightening the cone nuts didn't fix the problem and I don't run my chain too tight either. I actually love the hub, but if the pawls don't engage reliably, the hub is useless Do you have any ideas what I could do to solve the problem?
Try cleaning the hub out and adding a drop of dry lube to the o-ring as mentioned in the video. There seems to be a fine line of too much and too little grease in the hub. Coworker had a similar issue and this fixed his. If all else fails contact BSD or the shop you purchased it from. If you purchased from us we can look up your order and possibly send you new internals if needed.
Sounds like the O-rings is worn out and needs replacement. If cleaning the clutch won't help, a new O-ring will fix the problem, it's rasy.
@@nightriderbmxshop6768 hey! I was just about to write this. How are you all?
Clean it out to where it's bone dry and replace the oring if you still have issues.
@@DouglasThompson yoyoyo! So msny amazing things going on its like a condensed BMX multiverse
Does it make clicky sounds like a cassette? Lol
Yes but it's very, very quiet sounding.
Brakes solve a lot of those problems. Just sayin'.
True, but the vast majority or freecoaster and street riders don't use brakes. You are correct though.
Crankflips no problem, little bit of a loose chain, and I mean little, and they flip, two if that’s u
You're right. After getting a new chain they come around a lot easier now. Crazy to think how much that old chain dragged down my drivetrain so it kind of depends on your setup. Much easier than some of the older designs that's for sure.
This guy rides a freecoaster right… reminds me of ol Ian Schwartz
Thanks! That's a huge compliment. I grew up watchin Ian ride. - Mike