For the tip at 1:07: Rather than df4 after bound, I highly recommend full crouch -> ws1, [3,3] (Brazilian kick) -> cd1. This both does more damage (80), gives better okizeme, and guarantees the cd1 input as it comes from meme eyes meaning you don’t even have to do the electric. Furthermore, if they quickstand to escape cd1, you can hellsweep out of the meme eyes stance instead or go for regular electric to be safer. This is the setup that I learned from Devilster. Notation: Launcher -> b3,zen 1 -> bf2,3,zenu1 -> ws1,[3,3],df -> 1 (or other meme eyes options for mixup, but usually 1) df4 is only better in edge cases where you don’t have enough time to do ws1 or Brazilian kick at all. Use the combo above for open stages or when you can’t get the wall for better okizeme
arse also showed us this combo ender on stream I think: back 3 into forward 1 2 (but hold df after u press 2 to get meme eyes) then cd1, or hellsweep etc to mixup or even relaunch. I find it gives more time for cd1 to hit if they just try to stand up after the combo. Plus it gives 1 more dmg before the mixup.
@@tabkg5802 Agreed. Should've specified as one of the edge cases, it's amazing after heat omen stuff where you cant get anything other than one hit for your wall combo. Adds insane damage
Been stuck in yellow ranks lately but this guide will surely help with that. Thanks for always being a reliable source for Jin tech and best of luck on the road to God of Destruction!
This was actually really helpful. I was struggling with knowing what to do at the wall as a newer player and the other information has also been really useful!
5:58 this is great. I already did that heat parry move (idk what it’s called) after combos but I’ve been having trouble coming up with good wall combos. I also didn’t know you could cancel that second kick into full combo either. Thanks! Maybe I’ll finally get past the orange ranks after some more practice. Thanks again man! ✌️
Alot of this stuff i was already aware of but the savage sword combo with the omen stance is something i was unfamiliar with which makes it easier to use. Thanks for that Arse !
thank you!! you nailed a lot of the things i have trouble with that other youtubers say is broken on jin. people just jab you out of your stances and its annoying. thank you for the tips!!
I never knew that other people also did the df 4 strategy at the end of combos to sacrifice some damage for extra pressure. Nice to see Arsenalty talk about it.
You god send man I been wanting to learn how to use Jin for awhile and this helps truly now I feel like I'm getting somewhere and it's starting to come naturally
Also something to know about f4 is that you should throw it out at +8 (so jab/2-1/df1/whatever hits or you connect zen4 at Max range) and at +5-6 but more rarely. It is Jin 101 but I didn't learn 101 for the longest time unfortunately. If they start to power crush do d2 instead
@@mrpotato7734well you can cancel every red eyes dash into uf2/uf4 or other moves with up immediately. Bf2-3-zen is +2 on block so you can go on offense with it, "mix" between zen u1 and zen 2+3 is especially cheeky
4:50 people say just look at the hands to break grabs… Grabs op and king is broken. When hands are close together and you been seeing jabs it’s so easy to miss what’s happening
I think df4 as ender is good, however I think the best option for ground splat oki is cd ws1,2 into zen. It can relaunch opponents using kicks or kipup when using zen U1 and uf they stay on the ground, you can do zen into red eyes cd1 or just do 4 out of zen. I'll probably upload a small tips guide on this too.
Hey Ty, cheers for the best Jin tips & tricks on YT 🤘 This is probably a frequent asked question on your channel / stream, so hear me out... How about a video about your controller / pads history, what's your current (and future) gear and why 🤔 P.S: Loved your Tekken history videos BTW 👊
Was searching far and wide for a short and sweet guide for Jin fuckery for my Yoshi main friend who wants to pick up Jin. And as if the Tekken God(Omega)s answered my prayers, here you are. Bless up
0:54 bro, try d/f3~3, it's similar but it spikes the opponent harder in the ground, and if you hold d/f you go intro break step do CD1 and the only way of your opponent avoiding this is quickstand or toekick
Another point for db4 is that it's pushback on block actually makes it so Kaz can't twin piston it. I was pulling my hair out every time I'd block it and my twin piston wiffed. Could only get my tsunami kicks to ever punish
a good move i dont see other jins dont use is f+12, it has decent range and good damage, quick and safe on block, and on block it also has decent pushback, enough to even be safe from the opponent's jabs beware though it is a high attack
Pretty solid but Jin offers a lot more still. Jin has a lot of ways to peel opponents off the wall. He has a list of oki options when he lands hellsweep. Df3-3 into ecd1 is guranteed as a combo ender against backturned enemies. Bf23 is safe on block and is nc and has zen follow ups. The list goes on and on when it comes to optimization. Still a great video though!
@@Netami923 to be fair, if my character had dirty tactics like these I would also abuse them till no tomorrow 😂 But I hope it will be addressed sometime into the future
@@kaspermorrigan8722 Another setup you can do with Jin at the wall is after a wall splat you do stand jab (1) into db+4 and the kick rolls the opponent towards the left into a face down feet toward position. This is good cause you get a free i12 and i13 move on quick stand which pretty nasty I've also done this with hellsweep at the wall as well.
Is there a difference on ending combos with d/f+4 and d/f+[3,3] (or ws+1,[3,3])? I found that d/f+[3,3] let’s you go into red eyes so you don’t have to worry about messing up cd1
There is a question i have about zen cancelling, can you still use it like in T7 to 3,1 loop? The most basic combo i want to try is ewhf, 3,1 zen cancel, 3,1 zen 1,2
I love the video! Regarding the zen cancel. with your notation to cancel safely I end up hopping backwards. is it f4,f,(df~ub)? I 'll try again at home in 10 hours after work.
The timing is a little weird but you have to get the run animation, then go into b3 into his combo. Also might be pressing ff too fast so you're not getting the run in general.
Omen stance is db1+2, not ub1+2... sorry to anyone who does the unblockable 😅
Lol u actually taught them a good unblockable setup 😂
AVENGEEERRR
YOU TROLL 😂
I use df3~3 instead of df4 bc the follow ups after remove the execution barrier which was coming in handy at this tournament in go for broke
Can we get reina tutorial?
2:30 that evil smile when cd1 crushes a jab is from a man who mained Jin for years in T7
It's our turn to do dumb bullshit
@@tabkg5802 Hell yeah
For the tip at 1:07:
Rather than df4 after bound, I highly recommend full crouch -> ws1, [3,3] (Brazilian kick) -> cd1.
This both does more damage (80), gives better okizeme, and guarantees the cd1 input as it comes from meme eyes meaning you don’t even have to do the electric. Furthermore, if they quickstand to escape cd1, you can hellsweep out of the meme eyes stance instead or go for regular electric to be safer. This is the setup that I learned from Devilster.
Notation: Launcher -> b3,zen 1 -> bf2,3,zenu1 -> ws1,[3,3],df -> 1 (or other meme eyes options for mixup, but usually 1)
df4 is only better in edge cases where you don’t have enough time to do ws1 or Brazilian kick at all. Use the combo above for open stages or when you can’t get the wall for better okizeme
arse also showed us this combo ender on stream I think:
back 3 into forward 1 2 (but hold df after u press 2 to get meme eyes) then cd1, or hellsweep etc to mixup or even relaunch. I find it gives more time for cd1 to hit if they just try to stand up after the combo. Plus it gives 1 more dmg before the mixup.
Df4 is better at the wall tho. It gives a semi-guaranteed d1+2
@@tabkg5802 Agreed. Should've specified as one of the edge cases, it's amazing after heat omen stuff where you cant get anything other than one hit for your wall combo. Adds insane damage
wtf type of math problem did i just read
I came here expecting the video to be 11 minutes and 49 seconds of "Do d2", but got actual techs and tips.
Nice stuff.
The video I have been waiting for. Thanks for this. Looking forward to future Jin tech, us Jin mains appreciate it! 👊
I've been going through youtube guides on other characters and I swear this is the best guide out there.
How to win as jin!
Step 1: I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
As a Jin main, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it😅
Omen Stance
into EWGF
Can we just give the man some credit for how genuinely skilled he is at the game
Great vid, Jin mains upp!!
Me: expecting tekken trolling videos, memes, and some compilations.
TY: I do fully edited guides now !
What a time to be alive !
Ngl man this is the best short guide on Jin I've seen, great work
You’re the reason my jin has gotten so good. Awesome tutorial and I’ll be implementing your techniques more now.
Love these tips, had no idea you could do half these things. Thankyou for the help man, love all ur vids. Keep it up 👍
Been stuck in yellow ranks lately but this guide will surely help with that. Thanks for always being a reliable source for Jin tech and best of luck on the road to God of Destruction!
This was actually really helpful. I was struggling with knowing what to do at the wall as a newer player and the other information has also been really useful!
Thanks for this vid Arsenalty! Working on getting better with Jin and this video is perfect. Keep up the great vids and streams 🔥
5:58 this is great. I already did that heat parry move (idk what it’s called) after combos but I’ve been having trouble coming up with good wall combos. I also didn’t know you could cancel that second kick into full combo either. Thanks! Maybe I’ll finally get past the orange ranks after some more practice. Thanks again man! ✌️
Alot of this stuff i was already aware of but the savage sword combo with the omen stance is something i was unfamiliar with which makes it easier to use. Thanks for that Arse !
Nice tips! I'm a Jin main and didn't know some of these, especially the savage sword into omen at the wall. I will definitely be using these online!
This is why you’re my favorite player and content creator
Yooo love this tips video Arsenal! Fellow Jin main here!
thank you!! you nailed a lot of the things i have trouble with that other youtubers say is broken on jin. people just jab you out of your stances and its annoying. thank you for the tips!!
Perfect video for people who are already familiar with Jin
I never knew that other people also did the df 4 strategy at the end of combos to sacrifice some damage for extra pressure. Nice to see Arsenalty talk about it.
You god send man I been wanting to learn how to use Jin for awhile and this helps truly now I feel like I'm getting somewhere and it's starting to come naturally
This is exactly the kind of video I needed to feel confident with climbing in ranked, thanks Arse!
02:30 look at this mans evil fucking smile man, he knows he just done to that Dragunov 😂
Also something to know about f4 is that you should throw it out at +8 (so jab/2-1/df1/whatever hits or you connect zen4 at Max range) and at +5-6 but more rarely. It is Jin 101 but I didn't learn 101 for the longest time unfortunately. If they start to power crush do d2 instead
Please share more techs for Jin like this!
@@mrpotato7734well you can cancel every red eyes dash into uf2/uf4 or other moves with up immediately. Bf2-3-zen is +2 on block so you can go on offense with it, "mix" between zen u1 and zen 2+3 is especially cheeky
4:50 people say just look at the hands to break grabs…
Grabs op and king is broken.
When hands are close together and you been seeing jabs it’s so easy to miss what’s happening
Man I learnt so much new things from this video. Thank you Arsenalty!)
Great vid man just what I needed 👏🏻💪🏻
I think df4 as ender is good, however I think the best option for ground splat oki is cd ws1,2 into zen. It can relaunch opponents using kicks or kipup when using zen U1 and uf they stay on the ground, you can do zen into red eyes cd1 or just do 4 out of zen. I'll probably upload a small tips guide on this too.
Came here from losing like 10 matches in a row online with Jin lol thanks for the tips
Really amazing video!❤
Nice format! This is the true Jin School!
Awesome video! THANK YOU INFINTENLY FOR THE NOTATIONS
thanks for the tech ideas! goated jin 🔥
Hey Ty, cheers for the best Jin tips & tricks on YT 🤘
This is probably a frequent asked question on your channel / stream, so hear me out...
How about a video about your controller / pads history, what's your current (and future) gear and why 🤔
P.S: Loved your Tekken history videos BTW 👊
Gonna put this to good use. Thanks for the Tips Arsenalty!
Was searching far and wide for a short and sweet guide for Jin fuckery for my Yoshi main friend who wants to pick up Jin. And as if the Tekken God(Omega)s answered my prayers, here you are. Bless up
Thanks Arsenalty! Love your Jin
I just got my Jin to Garyu but I definitely still need this guide. Also 5:15 I did not know there’s a wall there!
Great Video
Great vid, great tech. Just subbed!
Thanks I did'nt know to cancel out F4 F but now I know :)))
we love the cheeky jin tactics and tricks
More of these my guy 🙏
Ngl the Jin drip you have is hella sick
red eyes is a much better name than "breaking step" imo
0:54 bro, try d/f3~3, it's similar but it spikes the opponent harder in the ground, and if you hold d/f you go intro break step do CD1 and the only way of your opponent avoiding this is quickstand or toekick
Thanks for the tips and tricks on our boy Jin
Another point for db4 is that it's pushback on block actually makes it so Kaz can't twin piston it. I was pulling my hair out every time I'd block it and my twin piston wiffed. Could only get my tsunami kicks to ever punish
a good move i dont see other jins dont use is f+12, it has decent range and good damage, quick and safe on block, and on block it also has decent pushback, enough to even be safe from the opponent's jabs
beware though it is a high attack
Thankyou ty
hopin more of these video!
7:53 ! How to go into breaking step ( red eyes) right after flying kick ? zen 1+2 ???
Df after zen 1+2
yeay as a fresh Jin main god bless this video
I hope you make some Jin flowchart videos. great stuff
Amazing stuff man! Thank you
I believe the df4 tech doesnt work anymore after the patch? Please tell me if im wrong
Pretty solid but Jin offers a lot more still. Jin has a lot of ways to peel opponents off the wall. He has a list of oki options when he lands hellsweep. Df3-3 into ecd1 is guranteed as a combo ender against backturned enemies. Bf23 is safe on block and is nc and has zen follow ups. The list goes on and on when it comes to optimization. Still a great video though!
I don't play Jin a lot but I'll keep these points in mind, thanks for guide
AWESOME GUIDE. THANK YOU.
6:01getting that B3 to connect feels impossible for me when I try it. Is there something I’m missing?
Preach arsenal db4 is so good I’ve been using it more than d2 honestly
What about Brazilian kick combo ender that gives nasty oki setup
I use this all the time have won so many matches from that setup alone
@@Netami923 to be fair, if my character had dirty tactics like these I would also abuse them till no tomorrow 😂
But I hope it will be addressed sometime into the future
@@kaspermorrigan8722 Another setup you can do with Jin at the wall is after a wall splat you do stand jab (1) into db+4 and the kick rolls the opponent towards the left into a face down feet toward position. This is good cause you get a free i12 and i13 move on quick stand which pretty nasty I've also done this with hellsweep at the wall as well.
@@Netami923 damn 💀
As a Jin main who’s playing his first fighting game thank u
As a Jin main, thank you 🙏🏾
Thanks for the tips bro
You can get 2 back 3 in the can can combo you just need to wait their legs fall a lil bit before doing the b3 f2-3
3:25 isn't correct, DB+4 doesn't have more range then D+2
Goated vid!
That t5 dr music going crazy
do you have any tips for consistency with f4 counterhit combo? im very inconsistent with the pickup b3
Very useful video, thx😮
2:30 they can SWR as well
how did u make him wear a hoodie i have the same outfit but the hoodie is down help
Is there a difference on ending combos with d/f+4 and d/f+[3,3] (or ws+1,[3,3])? I found that d/f+[3,3] let’s you go into red eyes so you don’t have to worry about messing up cd1
DF4 gives you more frame, and if connect it start a new combo
Love a sabaki after b21 gets so many people
There is a question i have about zen cancelling, can you still use it like in T7 to 3,1 loop? The most basic combo i want to try is ewhf, 3,1 zen cancel, 3,1 zen 1,2
My brother Ty the goat you’re going to make me pick up Jin
I love the video! Regarding the zen cancel. with your notation to cancel safely I end up hopping backwards. is it f4,f,(df~ub)? I 'll try again at home in 10 hours after work.
Try not to hold the ub for too long, it's definitely harder in 8
I'll try later... I tried to simply tap it and still hopped. All that legacy training to get uprooted... Thanks@@TheArsenalty
please make an another legendary vid like this
Awesome guide
Yo wass guddd arsenalty!!!
Its me, Hamdan from twitch!!!
BTW Very helpful vid
nice video!
I love this Red Hood custom
You can actually beat crouch jab even if df2 lands on block by using uf2 in Breaking Step
Yo. Hitting your opponent from the back is insane during combat😂
What's the background music?
Omen stance is back!!! Missed that shit from ttag2
W video 🔥
I remember when down/back 4 would launch 😂 good times lol
Any advice on the dash after ch f4? No matter how fast I try to input it it just doesn't work for me.
The timing is a little weird but you have to get the run animation, then go into b3 into his combo. Also might be pressing ff too fast so you're not getting the run in general.
Can I ask arsenalty.
Can they hopkick me if I used ff2 engager then d4? Since they can't low parry it.
No, they are -17, d4 is 16 frames. Since they are locked in block they can block or get hit only.
Don't forget df3~3/ws1,3~3 into breaking step for a spike ender
I was thinking that DB 4 is so good glad you agree hehe
Wouldn’t using df3,3,df for breaking step faster be better than df4 ? Just asking to play better
The Df4 provides more freedom as you aren't limited to the red eyes crouch dash from Df3,3df. It's still a good option though.
I can't for the life of me get the back 3 after the ch forward 4. What am I doing wrong?
what do you think about: B3 - F - 1 2 - DF for breaking step - 1 like combo ender? i tested this and it's 20 quaranteed dmg
I also use that on open stage, the fc mixup seems to get blocked a lot so I use it for oki wavedash pressure mostly. How do you get guaranteed dmg?
@@TheArsenaltyfor test i do this: ➡-⬇↘ - 2 - ➡➡-⬇↘ - 2 - b3 - f - 1 - b3 - f - 1 2 - ↘ - 1
@@TheArsenalty ruclips.net/video/lwoj4p551z0/видео.htmlsi=F3a0pG7GBmv3WeAh
@@TheArsenalty I upload combo video, if you need
Instructions unclear, I keep hitting it from the back 💀