Hey Matt! Been really enjoying the content so far, was just wondering if u plan to put out any video or course on behavioral IB interview any time soon?
What’s talent mean in IB? There’s no technical requirement for IB unlike doctor, lawyer or engineer. Talent as in you grind all day like a brothel worker?
It seemed like that to me too until I actually had to manage different analysts / junior people. Some analysts are way, way more productive than others, i.e. more responsive, fewer mistakes, more robust models. I think talent spread is evident in almost every field.
@@PeakFrameworks I just don’t understand the utility of IB these days. I feel software engineers can automate what an IB does. IB seem increasingly useless given AI and ML technology.
Not sure if you're even going to see this but what if after 2 years you are promoted to associate, is it then beneficial to stay or should you still generally leave.
I think the "fast track" would still probably be to leave, but it's not a bad thing to get promoted. Associate 1 is functionally like a 3rd year analyst in that case and finance headhunters will know the difference.
Wait..... the top talent are the analysts who leave early? Surely the top talent would be those who stick it until MD? Or am i missing smtg here. Unless most MDs start from MBA associate
Yup, top talent leaves to hedge funds, private equity firms, non-finance stuff IMO. Lots of MDs do indeed start at MBA associate level or perceivably weren't the top analysts.
you may have made a video on this already, but where do IB Analysts find the time to recruit with other companies? I'd imagine teams/recruiters are flexible with the hours you meet with them?
Usually you go before work hours or sneak out at lunch. Headhunters will generally be flexible. Teams might not be flexible, really depends on your firm. Evercore was supportive of it, but some bulge brackets you have to recruit in secrecy.
I am an incoming IB Analyst on the Debt Capital Markets team of a middle-market bank. I would love to hear your thoughts on how well DCM translates into a role in PE or a hedge fund as well as suggestions going forward that would help me use these skills in this role to leverage into PE or a hedge fund. Also, do headhunters recruit out of DCM teams to begin with when it comes to PE or hedgefunds.
Personally very interested in a lateral transfer from US to African or Asian markets. Would be keen to hear your perspective on this and how frequently/infrequently these market to market transfers are able to happen
Asian market will be tremendously different (at least for Greater China, i.e. HK, and Southeast Asia, i.e. Singapore from personal experience). You will be shocked and I'm really not sure if you will like it. In a sense I personally feel the US might be one of the best places to do IBD in the world.
I think it's quite possible if you work to become an associate at these firms. Lots of people at BBs move to other parts of the world at the associate or VP level. I think HK is the place to be if you want to go to Asia, lots of money and great funds there. Don't know anything about Africa, but it doesn't seem like there are any Tier 1 finance cities there.
It tends to be harder to enter after you hit your mid 30's. Most people have life obligations and can't start working 60+ hours in their mid 30's and onwards
VC to PE is a harder route, I'd probably recommend slowly going up in asset size. So try going to growth first, then PE. Firms like Insight and Tiger Global invest in VC, growth and a little late stage so those are the ideal ones to target. The problem with VC out of school is that it's very network-y and often a lots of cold calling, but not a ton of modeling. You'll want to make sure you're getting those skills too.
It gives people an opportunity to build their network, switch careers, take a break, make friends. It tends to be a long term payoff where you might get better access to funding or business partners. I don't think it makes sense if you just want to stay in high finance, but lots of smart people do it.
Do PE firms / HH care if you recruit as an AN2 in a firm that does only two years as an analyst meaning you would join them after being an ASO at your bank for a year
Not worth it at all. So many better options, I think investment banks will have to raise their salaries in the future. Literally everyone I know leaves after 2 years for pe,HF,tech etc.
Nah, virtually no idea... main thing is I've observed is that lots of people end up getting a masters before entering IB / PE. A PE associate in Europe is generally going to be a few years older than in the US.
@@ignaciopazgarcia5370 I guess but he speaks on topics he’s knowledgeable about from experience. Otherwise he would just be spouting information from research that anyone else can do
Don't count on it, I never worked there and try to stick to things I know reasonably well! I might do EU target schools at some point since I can cut the data.
It's a good path if you want to scale hours down a bit and want to become an expert on a specific company or space. I think big tech would be pretty comfortable too for the most part, but I personally never really considered it. It seems like it still has relatively high hours (50-60) and you take a decent pay cut.
Hi Matt, great video! I'm an first year IB mid market associate with one of the Top 5 banks in Canada. Would it be possible for us to have a 30 min slot to chat? I'm looking for career advice
no. Max 2 years then get out. Cheap labour sucks. Did not learn much and earned more in my trading accounf and ecommerce than analyst job, If you do Masters in financial mathematics or to finance masters just jump to quant role if can
No.
Hi, Could you please make a video about Asset Management and how to break into there after MBA? Thank you!
Hey Matt! Been really enjoying the content so far, was just wondering if u plan to put out any video or course on behavioral IB interview any time soon?
Yeah, I'm planning on launching a full course in 2022! It's taken me a long time to build, but it's on its way
Thanks for the great video! Would you be able to make a video about lateral recruiting for investment banking in the US?
Yes, can put it on the list!
What’s talent mean in IB? There’s no technical requirement for IB unlike doctor, lawyer or engineer. Talent as in you grind all day like a brothel worker?
It seemed like that to me too until I actually had to manage different analysts / junior people. Some analysts are way, way more productive than others, i.e. more responsive, fewer mistakes, more robust models. I think talent spread is evident in almost every field.
@@PeakFrameworks I just don’t understand the utility of IB these days. I feel software engineers can automate what an IB does. IB seem increasingly useless given AI and ML technology.
@@laughoutmeow I don't think you understand what an IB does then.
@@dimagoat7365can you further explain how especially ppp will not soon be automitised
Great vids. Wonder how often MBA IB Associates stay to VP? Vast MAJORITY of Associates from MBA are new to IB.
Appreciate you went straight to an Elite Boutique but would/could you make a video on how to get out of a MM into a BB/EB?
Yes, that's a great idea!
Man talking about a third year while I'm failing the hirevues
Not sure if you're even going to see this but what if after 2 years you are promoted to associate, is it then beneficial to stay or should you still generally leave.
I think the "fast track" would still probably be to leave, but it's not a bad thing to get promoted. Associate 1 is functionally like a 3rd year analyst in that case and finance headhunters will know the difference.
Wait..... the top talent are the analysts who leave early? Surely the top talent would be those who stick it until MD? Or am i missing smtg here. Unless most MDs start from MBA associate
Yup, top talent leaves to hedge funds, private equity firms, non-finance stuff IMO. Lots of MDs do indeed start at MBA associate level or perceivably weren't the top analysts.
you may have made a video on this already, but where do IB Analysts find the time to recruit with other companies? I'd imagine teams/recruiters are flexible with the hours you meet with them?
Usually you go before work hours or sneak out at lunch. Headhunters will generally be flexible. Teams might not be flexible, really depends on your firm. Evercore was supportive of it, but some bulge brackets you have to recruit in secrecy.
I am an incoming IB Analyst on the Debt Capital Markets team of a middle-market bank. I would love to hear your thoughts on how well DCM translates into a role in PE or a hedge fund as well as suggestions going forward that would help me use these skills in this role to leverage into PE or a hedge fund. Also, do headhunters recruit out of DCM teams to begin with when it comes to PE or hedgefunds.
I have a question, what college did u come from. I’m not sure if my school would cut it but I know I could do great in this job.
Personally very interested in a lateral transfer from US to African or Asian markets. Would be keen to hear your perspective on this and how frequently/infrequently these market to market transfers are able to happen
Asian market will be tremendously different (at least for Greater China, i.e. HK, and Southeast Asia, i.e. Singapore from personal experience). You will be shocked and I'm really not sure if you will like it. In a sense I personally feel the US might be one of the best places to do IBD in the world.
I think it's quite possible if you work to become an associate at these firms. Lots of people at BBs move to other parts of the world at the associate or VP level. I think HK is the place to be if you want to go to Asia, lots of money and great funds there. Don't know anything about Africa, but it doesn't seem like there are any Tier 1 finance cities there.
Is age a big deal in IB or PE or any finance career ? How does it impact you ?
It tends to be harder to enter after you hit your mid 30's. Most people have life obligations and can't start working 60+ hours in their mid 30's and onwards
@@PeakFrameworks is 26 an acceptable age? After finishing a masters course I mean but little to no experience in finance or banking
Hey Matt, I joined a medium size VC out of undergrad. I want to break into PE and get big in there. What way forward would you suggest?
VC to PE is a harder route, I'd probably recommend slowly going up in asset size. So try going to growth first, then PE. Firms like Insight and Tiger Global invest in VC, growth and a little late stage so those are the ideal ones to target. The problem with VC out of school is that it's very network-y and often a lots of cold calling, but not a ton of modeling. You'll want to make sure you're getting those skills too.
Any specific reason why?
What's the point of B- school after 4 years experience?
It gives people an opportunity to build their network, switch careers, take a break, make friends. It tends to be a long term payoff where you might get better access to funding or business partners. I don't think it makes sense if you just want to stay in high finance, but lots of smart people do it.
Do PE firms / HH care if you recruit as an AN2 in a firm that does only two years as an analyst meaning you would join them after being an ASO at your bank for a year
Nope generally not, should be fine.
Could you talk about the investment banking market in Dubai or Canada?
Hm probably not. I could maybe talk about Canada down the road, but definitely not Dubai
@@PeakFrameworks why not Dubai?
I unfortunately know nothing about Dubai
IBD means something totally different and unpleasant in my line of work, the thumbnail fooled me into clicking
Not worth it at all. So many better options, I think investment banks will have to raise their salaries in the future. Literally everyone I know leaves after 2 years for pe,HF,tech etc.
Thanks for the consistent insightful videos! Do you had any information on European target schools and/or what IB & PE firms look for?
Nah, virtually no idea... main thing is I've observed is that lots of people end up getting a masters before entering IB / PE. A PE associate in Europe is generally going to be a few years older than in the US.
Could you make some EU focussed IB videos?
yes its a shame its so hard to work in the US if you didn't studied there
He didn’t work or study in the EU so he prob can’t speak on it much
@@ZaldivarTwins but idk, still he def has exposure to how things work in London for example
@@ignaciopazgarcia5370 I guess but he speaks on topics he’s knowledgeable about from experience. Otherwise he would just be spouting information from research that anyone else can do
Don't count on it, I never worked there and try to stick to things I know reasonably well! I might do EU target schools at some point since I can cut the data.
What are your thoughts on corporate development at a big tech company? I have been seeing a lot of openings requiring IB or PE experience
It's a good path if you want to scale hours down a bit and want to become an expert on a specific company or space. I think big tech would be pretty comfortable too for the most part, but I personally never really considered it. It seems like it still has relatively high hours (50-60) and you take a decent pay cut.
awesome video
Drop the skin care routine pls!!!
I use Cetaphil cleanser + moisturizer and a prescribed Tretinoin cream. Honestly it's mostly the special RUclips lighting :)
Hi Matt, great video! I'm an first year IB mid market associate with one of the Top 5 banks in Canada. Would it be possible for us to have a 30 min slot to chat? I'm looking for career advice
I don't do calls any more, but can answer one-off questions you have if you e-mail me!
Hey matt is Princeton really good for Wall Street?
I plan on majoring in physics or financial engineering btw^
Yes, Princeton is one of the best schools (for pretty much everything). Tons of alumni and looks at almost every firm
And here I am in LO AM
no. Max 2 years then get out. Cheap labour sucks. Did not learn much and earned more in my trading accounf and ecommerce than analyst job, If you do Masters in financial mathematics or to finance masters just jump to quant role if can
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so?