I searched up “how todo behind the neck pull up properly” because my one shoulder was hurting and then came to this video! Thank you! You saved me from a lot of pain! 🙏
Hey Daniel your channel has quickly become my favourite RUclips channel. Thanks for making science based content and producing great videos with clear concise and easy to understand instructions. I will steer clear of behind the neck presses after watching this video. Cheers from Toronto, Canada
Fantastic video Daniel! You have a great understanding of human movement and injury prevention that is scientifically/evidence based. Keep up the great work!
Answering your question. They are a standard part of my routine. I absolutely love this exercise. It feels amazing and gives a great pump to the whole upper body. I started with just the bar and over time have worked up to a comfortable 40 kgs for 5 sets of ten. The best part of this exercise is the feeling. Nothing else gives this feeling. Can’t describe it. It just feels amazing. I have an extremely flexible body so maybe that’s one of the reasons it works for me.
Very comprehensive, I found this extremely informative on a topic I'm not at all familiar with and, fortunately, for a good reason too. Cheers for keeping our bodies healthy bro.
Daniel you are one of the best fitness channels in youtube!! Finally someone that teaches bodyweight training like a pro and doesn't just say "do some push ups and pull ups..." Keep going! Btw i'll be glad if you will make a video about your weekly workout split or the workout body splits you support :)
Hey Daniel, can you possibly make a tutorial and progression video to achieve the front lever. If you could also include your personal experiences and difficulties when trying to achieve it that would be great too. Keep up the good work
Daniel your videos are always so knowledgeable and well explained. I always make sure to watch your videos as soon as I notice one. Thanks for posting!
Excellent video! Brilliant analysis of structure and motion of the shoulder. This young man's videos go to the top of the list of online strength-training videos.
This is similar to how everyone dances around eating meat, everyone is fearful of it, but deep down you know its the absolute best thing you can do for your health.
I've always steered clear of behind the neck presses, however I've been doing behind the neck lat pull downs with a pro style lat bar (with the inwards facing outer grips) as auxiliary work to improve wide grip pull ups, and I've never felt a greater upper lat activation with low load and high volume. Great bridge between IMO. But you're right, doesn't mean the risk of injury still isn't there, but the reward has been worth it so far.
Your channel has quickly become my favourite RUclips. i realize in this video you put in a lot of thought and effort to make a video production of high value. thanks again and i always look forward to your next videos!
I've done behind the neck presses for over 45 years and today in my mid 60's and continue to do them with no problems. In the last several years I've switched to a smith machine and recently to a stand alone shoulder/delt machine. I never go super heavy and do between 10 and 15 reps feeling the muscle up and down. Movements are smooth and under complete control. As the weight gets heavier the range of motion sometime gets shallower. Mostly pyramids up and down with drop sets on the decent. Maybe this is why I've had no issues over the years!
Just did overhead press today before watching this video. I even maxed out with a relatively light weight compared to my past performance years ago (165 lbs for 2 reps). I weigh about 205. I only do behind the neck press abbreviated because of possible impingements when I load up the bar. I used abbreviated movements from time to time for variation and to shock the muscles. That being said, I found your video logical and informative, and the advice compelling. I will steer away from the overhead behind the neck barbell press and move on to a better alternative. Would hate to tempt fate when the risk to reward ratio just isn't there. Thanks for the great video and advice. All the best!
Hi Daniel, great video! I was wondering if you will be doing a video on rounded shoulders and/or winged scapula and fixing those with bodyweigth exercises and/or light weight. I know that you are a wise guy and that's why I am asking that. Much appreciation from me and probably all your subs
he uses a roller in his old videos, see if you can find it. scapular retraction in your pulling movements with a long neck, some active and passive hanging with good posture will fix it. but if your always in bad posture outside or even during training it will go backwards.
Daniel, the further you get into physical therapy. The better and more informative. As for behind the neck, I have done many military press. I feel I get a better stretch of the scapula and the shoulder plades. I do it with a safe minimal load. I don't do it often and I more use it for muscle control. Not sure if this is effectively beneficial. And thank you for the great work you do.
Some people absolutely shouldn't. I do some behind the neck Pull ups and I have no issues with it what so ever. No shoulder pain or anything and I have been doing it for years.
i m 24 years of age....i ve been doing behind the head pull ups since i was 14. no problems so far.... but i have to say that i do understand the danger on the shoulders. i can feel that it is a difficult biomechanic position....but not impossible! As for my shoulders......well time will tell 4sure! ....... Daniel I want to thank you for sharing some of your knowledge via youtube and also, it is nice that you re doing it using science behind every topic.Nice job man,really!
I've been having recurring stiff neck strain for weeks. Did behind-the-neck pullup in calisthenics class earlier this week after for the first time. Something didn't feel good. Thanks for explaining what I may have been feeling. I'll avoid this exercise from now on.
I have been pressing behind the neck for 30 years.In the last 6 months I have pain in shoulders from I believe behind the neck press got away with it for years now it's caught up with me
Amen! Awesome video! Excelllent info Daniel! Who in the world would dislike this video? In my personal experience, I haven't got any issues with these kind of exercises when doing behind the nech pull ups for example... I sporadically included these as you mentioned in the video. But once I was balancing with momentum trying ot do some weird kipping shit (I was fooling around)... and my arm surpassed that 90-90 deegres angle and I got some kind of inpinchment because of it. Thank god I worked on my mobility, and really enfasized working on my rotator cuff muscles with excentric exercices, external rotation... and the disconfort dissapeared completely within a week or two. Now the external rotation exercises and rotator cuff strenghening is part of my daily trainning, and my mobility and shoulder health are better than ever.
Interesting video. Speaking of tissue capacity, do you think we could get a video about joints/connective tissue and how to properly build them to avoid injury and overuse?
I’ve always been fit and athletic and throughout middle school, high school, US Army and my competition fighting days and I was always stronger with BTN pull-ups than the traditional pull-ups. I also feel lest wrist strain and more comfortable doing BTN pull-ups. I am 56 now and still fit at 5’ 8” and 160 lbs. I still am much stronger with BTN pull-ups. Honestly, I dread the thought of doing traditional pull-ups. I literally need to force myself to do traditional pull-ups in at least one of my workout sessions lol. Any trainers know why I am stronger doing BTNs rather than traditional pull-ups? Same with BTN barbell presses. I feel stronger doing those than traditional front barbell press.
Daniel after watching this video i will steer clear of behind neck pressing and 90/90 overhead movement. thanks for making valuable and educational fitness videos. This is a great channel. One thing i noticed in your video about the shoulder tests. You didn't talk much about the particulars about the shoulder mobility test and how to assess acceptable level of mobility and range. If you could enlighten us in a separate video i think that will be valuable foe those not too familiar with the exercise.
Trained wrong for years in my teens with a lot of behind the neck exercises and too much benching, because of that I still have problems with my shoulders to this day.
When I was 20 (long, long ago) I could do 33 behind the neck pull ups and sets of 10 pulldowns on the lat machine with 200 pounds (I weighed 155 at the time). I was going to a small gym that had some old equipment. One day on the lat machine doing behind the neck pulldowns the cable broke and the bar hit me in the head. If I had been doing regular pulldowns I might not have been hit.
Awesome video! I do behind the neck pull ups once a week when I work shoulders or I do military press. I don't always do those two movements when I work on shoulders just so I can give my rotator cuffs a break.
Everyone dislikes behind the shoulder exercises. However it is a good idea to do them for oly lifts. Gotta be extremely careful and educated on stretches and months of training until you can do it safely with heavy weights. It is the best way to strengthen the upper back.
I sometimes like to do behind the neck stuff for challenges (basically like: you're strong, but can you be mobilie and strong too?), but never to exercise. Just simply because in my sport (Triathlon) and in everyday life, I do not know where I would use the ability to press or pull behind my neck. It's just not functional, at least for me. It's cool to try it out from time to time tho.
In my experience with behind the neck exercises I've never gotten any pain I've actually found them to be a good alternative when you've hit a bit of a plateau for certain movements i.e. Shoulder press, push press, push / power jerk, pull ups etc.. During these exercises (everything but behind the neck jerk) it's crucial to be sure you have the mobility but I've found that if your mobility is there then increasing the load over time to something like 6 reps at a 7 RPE you should be fine. Going lower in reps and heavier you're pushing injury more especially if you have no foundation in behind the neck exercises. Movements like behind the neck jerk or snatch balances (Olympic lifting specific) are okay to go to lower reps and it's safe to be around 8 RPE and lower. If you're trying to PR then cool but use caution. RPE 1-10 is basically how difficult the set was. 10 being you couldn't go any harder, 1 being you are warming up or getting very high volume.
Actually, I avoid shoulder presses all together to begin with since I only feel pain from the exercise. I only perform handstand pushups and rarely behind the neck pullups.
Hey Daniel! I like your content, it's truthful, correct and healthy. Really good content! QUESTION: Could you do a separate video for people who have the EXACT same posture problem which you described @1:35? I work in IT and I don't know how to get rid of it. I think the keyboard is partially responsible for the forwards protruded shoulders, because when you are moving your hands to the keyboard, your shoulders move automatically forwards and towards each other. I think a split keyboard would allow for better posture while working on a computer. Like the halves of the keyboard are 1 meter apart, thus keeping your shoulders in a relaxed position. At least my body tells me this is healthier. But I don't know much about the anatomy of our muscles and so the only exercise I do for my shoulders are inverted flies. But what else can I do to get rid of this posture? I hope you can shed light on this issue! Thanks for everything!
I can do them generally without pain but I’m also scrubbing the back of my head with the barbell lol and not coming down far. I did a week or so of lat pulldowns and seated rows. When I came back to this exercise, and performed it in the way I mentioned, I haven’t noticed pain. Limited range of motion and only 42kg seems to work for me. Can’t say I feel the pump like the first time I tried it though.
Ive had that injury you were talking about in the first half of the video for quite some time. It's an irritation after lifting heavy loads overhead while still not used to being in the gym. The part that hurts in the shoulder is the edge of the "bone-plate" behind the edge of the collarbone. It's really strange that I still have it after two years!
I have definitely experimented with behind the neck exercises. Doing something like the bradford press feels alright if i don't go too heavy. The only behind the neck exercise i regularly do tho are behind the neck chinups. It's definitely not for everyone.
I know about Jeff Cavalier, I've been watching his stuff. In one of his recent videos he actually talked about the behind the neck chin ups and that he actually likes doing them.
So I tried behind the neck pull-ups and thought it was a cooler, more advanced pull-up. But the next day I had some pain in my neck, probably due to poor execution, and did some research on the move and most blogs/articles told me their is no real benefit form doing those, so I just carried on with normal pull-ups with good results.
I did behind the neck pull-ups for about two weeks but the range of motion is about six inches less for me so I quite and went back to normal pull-ups. no real problems but I think that working on the range of motion better than any scapula retraction you can get.
I have done behind the neck pullups for a while with no pain but I don't really feel like they are that much more effective than just regular pulling exercises supplemented with cuban rotations to hit the external rotators.
What if you did the behind the back pullup but with more diagonal pull direction rather than vertical. The theory behind this is you utilise the upper posterior muscles more than the lat dorsi. Ideally you would be basically pulling with your rhomboids, scap muscles and rear delts with some lower traps. I don't know how safe this is, I came up with this as a sort of corrective exercise in an effort to combat a rounded back that could be caused by overuse of anterior muscles and the lat. If someone could advise me on this, that would be great
Very informative video but I must admit I do the movement but don’t go very low or heavy. My form is very strict. I save the heavy stuff for military presses and dumbbell press
I have been doing olympic lifts for about 7 years. The behind the neck press is an essential lift for breaking down and isolating the movements of the snatch. Of course, you should work on your mobility before starting the snatch and you must do progressions for any isolated movements. The key to achieving your goals is to know the proper technique and the risks for any exercise when creating your program and with your goal in mind evaluate whether you are ready for this exercise.
Hey Daniel, I was wondering what your opinion was on behind the neck exercises that have to do with the following exercises: - bridge/hollowback handstands - snatch (the Olympic lift) - Klokov press (for supplementation of snatch) In terms of bridges and such, is it not as much of a concern as it is unloaded? For snatches, is it different because it's a straight-arm lift? Any info/advice would be appreciated, and many thanks for your videos!
this is good. but I wanna add something. ido portal recommends playing with suboptimal positioning using bodyweight only once u have a strong foundation of strength. so to clarify this would be like doing squats with pronated feet and internally rotated knees intentionally just your bodyweight. you don't go to muscle faluire that would be asking for an injury. but u increase the strength you have in that bad position gently. then you back off and return to normal squats. same with this behind the back position the idea is that by strengthening yourself in these bad positions you will have better injury prevention and be stronger in the good positions any thoughts Daniel?
oh I forogt it mention that u must not only have a strong foundation of strength to do this but also have the full mobilty required. again this is bodyweight or very light weights only. not a 1 rep max out and not a 25 reps to failure
Daniel son, a while back when I started playing with the barbell too increase the load. i thought I have awesome mobility, I would say you wont find alot of guys with my shoulder and thoracic mobility down at the gym. my shoulder strength is very good compared to the rest of my body too. so I thought, behind the head would be great for me as its a different movement and a plan of motion I'm not training. after a few weeks with progressive overload I hurt my shoulder, yeah best not to go for strength training in this plan. pulling behind the head should be safer though...... i do still do bridge/wheel pose and hollow back type movements but not much pressing in that position, its really not worth going heavy.
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I searched up “how todo behind the neck pull up properly” because my one shoulder was hurting and then came to this video! Thank you! You saved me from a lot of pain! 🙏
Hey Daniel your channel has quickly become my favourite RUclips channel. Thanks for making science based content and producing great videos with clear concise and easy to understand instructions.
I will steer clear of behind the neck presses after watching this video.
Cheers from Toronto, Canada
Thanks for your comment Stephen!
Fantastic video Daniel! You have a great understanding of human movement and injury prevention that is scientifically/evidence based. Keep up the great work!
Answering your question. They are a standard part of my routine. I absolutely love this exercise. It feels amazing and gives a great pump to the whole upper body. I started with just the bar and over time have worked up to a comfortable 40 kgs for 5 sets of ten. The best part of this exercise is the feeling. Nothing else gives this feeling. Can’t describe it. It just feels amazing. I have an extremely flexible body so maybe that’s one of the reasons it works for me.
Excellency well delivered information in this video; well done!
Very comprehensive, I found this extremely informative on a topic I'm not at all familiar with and, fortunately, for a good reason too. Cheers for keeping our bodies healthy bro.
Minimising injury occurrence is one of the keys to longevity.
Daniel you are one of the best fitness channels in youtube!! Finally someone that teaches bodyweight training like a pro and doesn't just say "do some push ups and pull ups..." Keep going! Btw i'll be glad if you will make a video about your weekly workout split or the workout body splits you support :)
yeah that would be awesome!!
I'm convinced -- no more behind the neck exercises for me.
Hey Daniel, can you possibly make a tutorial and progression video to achieve the front lever. If you could also include your personal experiences and difficulties when trying to achieve it that would be great too. Keep up the good work
Daniel your videos are always so knowledgeable and well explained. I always make sure to watch your videos as soon as I notice one. Thanks for posting!
finally someone who talks about this subject clearly and gives important advices ! thanks man!
Excellent video! Brilliant analysis of structure and motion of the shoulder. This young man's videos go to the top of the list of online strength-training videos.
I am a doctor student and I am really glad by the way you cover this topic! 👍👍👍👍
This is similar to how everyone dances around eating meat, everyone is fearful of it, but deep down you know its the absolute best thing you can do for your health.
I've always steered clear of behind the neck presses, however I've been doing behind the neck lat pull downs with a pro style lat bar (with the inwards facing outer grips) as auxiliary work to improve wide grip pull ups, and I've never felt a greater upper lat activation with low load and high volume. Great bridge between IMO. But you're right, doesn't mean the risk of injury still isn't there, but the reward has been worth it so far.
Here i am after my gym trainer asked me to do behind the neck pull-ups and lat pull downs and i injured my left shoulder. :) Never doing it again.
Your channel has quickly become my favourite RUclips. i realize in this video you put in a lot of thought and effort to make a video production of high value. thanks again and i always look forward to your next videos!
The problem is not that these exercises are bad. The people are doing them wrong and don't have enough mobility for it
I've done behind the neck presses for over 45 years and today in my mid 60's and continue to do them with no problems. In the last several years I've switched to a smith machine and recently to a stand alone shoulder/delt machine. I never go super heavy and do between 10 and 15 reps feeling the muscle up and down. Movements are smooth and under complete control. As the weight gets heavier the range of motion sometime gets shallower. Mostly pyramids up and down with drop sets on the decent. Maybe this is why I've had no issues over the years!
I fucked up my right shoulder with over head press and behind back pull ups
Just did overhead press today before watching this video. I even maxed out with a relatively light weight compared to my past performance years ago (165 lbs for 2 reps). I weigh about 205. I only do behind the neck press abbreviated because of possible impingements when I load up the bar. I used abbreviated movements from time to time for variation and to shock the muscles.
That being said, I found your video logical and informative, and the advice compelling. I will steer away from the overhead behind the neck barbell press and move on to a better alternative. Would hate to tempt fate when the risk to reward ratio just isn't there.
Thanks for the great video and advice. All the best!
Hi Daniel, great video! I was wondering if you will be doing a video on rounded shoulders and/or winged scapula and fixing those with bodyweigth exercises and/or light weight. I know that you are a wise guy and that's why I am asking that. Much appreciation from me and probably all your subs
he uses a roller in his old videos, see if you can find it.
scapular retraction in your pulling movements with a long neck, some active and passive hanging with good posture will fix it. but if your always in bad posture outside or even during training it will go backwards.
Smart and true words as allways!
Daniel, the further you get into physical therapy. The better and more informative. As for behind the neck, I have done many military press. I feel I get a better stretch of the scapula and the shoulder plades. I do it with a safe minimal load. I don't do it often and I more use it for muscle control. Not sure if this is effectively beneficial.
And thank you for the great work you do.
Some people absolutely shouldn't. I do some behind the neck Pull ups and I have no issues with it what so ever. No shoulder pain or anything and I have been doing it for years.
i m 24 years of age....i ve been doing behind the head pull ups since i was 14. no problems so far.... but i have to say that i do understand the danger on the shoulders. i can feel that it is a difficult biomechanic position....but not impossible! As for my shoulders......well time will tell 4sure! ....... Daniel I want to thank you for sharing some of your knowledge via youtube and also, it is nice that you re doing it using science behind every topic.Nice job man,really!
How are ur shoulders now?
What about snatchess?
I love behind the neck pull-ups. They give me and good pump in my biceps and lats
Great video as always ! Especially if you stop at 1:39 and then press right arrow, afterwards left arrow, left, right, left, right......
I've been having recurring stiff neck strain for weeks. Did behind-the-neck pullup in calisthenics class earlier this week after for the first time. Something didn't feel good. Thanks for explaining what I may have been feeling. I'll avoid this exercise from now on.
I have been pressing behind the neck for 30 years.In the last 6 months I have pain in shoulders from I believe behind the neck press got away with it for years now it's caught up with me
Thanks for the awesome video, Daniel!
A very complex video. Your example with alcohol and smoking was great! Good clean content :D
Amen! Awesome video!
Excelllent info Daniel!
Who in the world would dislike this video?
In my personal experience, I haven't got any issues with these kind of exercises when doing behind the nech pull ups for example... I sporadically included these as you mentioned in the video.
But once I was balancing with momentum trying ot do some weird kipping shit (I was fooling around)... and my arm surpassed that 90-90 deegres angle and I got some kind of inpinchment because of it.
Thank god I worked on my mobility, and really enfasized working on my rotator cuff muscles with excentric exercices, external rotation... and the disconfort dissapeared completely within a week or two.
Now the external rotation exercises and rotator cuff strenghening is part of my daily trainning, and my mobility and shoulder health are better than ever.
Neck pullups helped me fix my posture and poor shoulder external rotation. To each his own, I guess.
dude I passed to my second year in medical , and that explaination at the begenining was awesome !! :D
Interesting video.
Speaking of tissue capacity, do you think we could get a video about joints/connective tissue and how to properly build them to avoid injury and overuse?
I’ve always been fit and athletic and throughout middle school, high school, US Army and my competition fighting days and I was always stronger with BTN pull-ups than the traditional pull-ups. I also feel lest wrist strain and more comfortable doing BTN pull-ups.
I am 56 now and still fit at 5’ 8” and 160 lbs. I still am much stronger with BTN pull-ups. Honestly, I dread the thought of doing traditional pull-ups. I literally need to force myself to do traditional pull-ups in at least one of my workout sessions lol.
Any trainers know why I am stronger doing BTNs rather than traditional pull-ups? Same with BTN barbell presses. I feel stronger doing those than traditional front barbell press.
Daniel after watching this video i will steer clear of behind neck pressing and 90/90 overhead movement. thanks for making valuable and educational fitness videos. This is a great channel. One thing i noticed in your video about the shoulder tests. You didn't talk much about the particulars about the shoulder mobility test and how to assess acceptable level of mobility and range. If you could enlighten us in a separate video i think that will be valuable foe those not too familiar with the exercise.
Trained wrong for years in my teens with a lot of behind the neck exercises and too much benching, because of that I still have problems with my shoulders to this day.
you are awesome man!!you have a video for everything and right details for each one,respect !!
Yeah that's make sense, just trying to move the shoulder in that position is a challenge.
When I was 20 (long, long ago) I could do 33 behind the neck pull ups and sets of 10 pulldowns on the lat machine with 200 pounds (I weighed 155 at the time). I was going to a small gym that had some old equipment. One day on the lat machine doing behind the neck pulldowns the cable broke and the bar hit me in the head. If I had been doing regular pulldowns I might not have been hit.
Awesome video! I do behind the neck pull ups once a week when I work shoulders or I do military press. I don't always do those two movements when I work on shoulders just so I can give my rotator cuffs a break.
Everyone dislikes behind the shoulder exercises. However it is a good idea to do them for oly lifts. Gotta be extremely careful and educated on stretches and months of training until you can do it safely with heavy weights. It is the best way to strengthen the upper back.
you're giving some really good advice here
You deserve so much more subs mann! 🥇
I sometimes like to do behind the neck stuff for challenges (basically like: you're strong, but can you be mobilie and strong too?), but never to exercise. Just simply because in my sport (Triathlon) and in everyday life, I do not know where I would use the ability to press or pull behind my neck. It's just not functional, at least for me. It's cool to try it out from time to time tho.
In my experience with behind the neck exercises I've never gotten any pain I've actually found them to be a good alternative when you've hit a bit of a plateau for certain movements i.e. Shoulder press, push press, push / power jerk, pull ups etc.. During these exercises (everything but behind the neck jerk) it's crucial to be sure you have the mobility but I've found that if your mobility is there then increasing the load over time to something like 6 reps at a 7 RPE you should be fine. Going lower in reps and heavier you're pushing injury more especially if you have no foundation in behind the neck exercises. Movements like behind the neck jerk or snatch balances (Olympic lifting specific) are okay to go to lower reps and it's safe to be around 8 RPE and lower. If you're trying to PR then cool but use caution.
RPE 1-10 is basically how difficult the set was. 10 being you couldn't go any harder, 1 being you are warming up or getting very high volume.
Actually, I avoid shoulder presses all together to begin with since I only feel pain from the exercise. I only perform handstand pushups and rarely behind the neck pullups.
Hey Daniel!
I like your content, it's truthful, correct and healthy. Really good content!
QUESTION: Could you do a separate video for people who have the EXACT same posture problem which you described @1:35?
I work in IT and I don't know how to get rid of it. I think the keyboard is partially responsible for the forwards protruded shoulders, because when you are moving your hands to the keyboard, your shoulders move automatically forwards and towards each other. I think a split keyboard would allow for better posture while working on a computer. Like the halves of the keyboard are 1 meter apart, thus keeping your shoulders in a relaxed position. At least my body tells me this is healthier.
But I don't know much about the anatomy of our muscles and so the only exercise I do for my shoulders are inverted flies. But what else can I do to get rid of this posture? I hope you can shed light on this issue! Thanks for everything!
I can do them generally without pain but I’m also scrubbing the back of my head with the barbell lol and not coming down far. I did a week or so of lat pulldowns and seated rows. When I came back to this exercise, and performed it in the way I mentioned, I haven’t noticed pain. Limited range of motion and only 42kg seems to work for me. Can’t say I feel the pump like the first time I tried it though.
Hey Daniel. I would love a video showing exercises and stretches to deal with anterior pelvic tilt.
Solid advice as always
Ive had that injury you were talking about in the first half of the video for quite some time. It's an irritation after lifting heavy loads overhead while still not used to being in the gym. The part that hurts in the shoulder is the edge of the "bone-plate" behind the edge of the collarbone. It's really strange that I still have it after two years!
A bout of neck strain akin to whiplash means no more behind the neck pulldowns for me.
Always warmup your shoulders and do scapula pulls because this movement can get addictive...
Very informative broham! Nuff thanks
Extremely helpful!!!!
Thanks for the awareness bro 👍
I have definitely experimented with behind the neck exercises. Doing something like the bradford press feels alright if i don't go too heavy. The only behind the neck exercise i regularly do tho are behind the neck chinups. It's definitely not for everyone.
I know about Jeff Cavalier, I've been watching his stuff. In one of his recent videos he actually talked about the behind the neck chin ups and that he actually likes doing them.
So I tried behind the neck pull-ups and thought it was a cooler, more advanced pull-up. But the next day I had some pain in my neck, probably due to poor execution, and did some research on the move and most blogs/articles told me their is no real benefit form doing those, so I just carried on with normal pull-ups with good results.
Sometimes when I'm doing pull ups I'll throw in a rep or two of behind the neck, but I never do full sets of them or try to approach failure.
I did behind the neck pull-ups for about two weeks but the range of motion is about six inches less for me so I quite and went back to normal pull-ups. no real problems but I think that working on the range of motion better than any scapula retraction you can get.
I have done behind the neck pullups for a while with no pain but I don't really feel like they are that much more effective than just regular pulling exercises supplemented with cuban rotations to hit the external rotators.
Your videos are absolutely excellent.
Please make a video about bench press and if it is something people should include on their training routines.
great video Daniel superb keep up the good work
Best guy, please keep up the great content
Great explanation on a great topic.....
damn daniel back at it again with the imformative videos!
Never felt right behind the neck exercises just doesn't seem natural to my structure
Well FTN pull ups do not feel right to me. I do btn all time. But you call it right, depend and someone body frame.
Thanks a lot for such good piece of science based information.
Thanks Daniel great video!!!
I like your videos. One of the channels where I immediately watch the video though I'd like more "traning" footage.
Thanks
Very informative, right straight to the point.
What if you did the behind the back pullup but with more diagonal pull direction rather than vertical. The theory behind this is you utilise the upper posterior muscles more than the lat dorsi. Ideally you would be basically pulling with your rhomboids, scap muscles and rear delts with some lower traps. I don't know how safe this is, I came up with this as a sort of corrective exercise in an effort to combat a rounded back that could be caused by overuse of anterior muscles and the lat. If someone could advise me on this, that would be great
very professional and well explained. thanks
Very informative video but I must admit I do the movement but don’t go very low or heavy. My form is very strict. I save the heavy stuff for military presses and dumbbell press
I have been doing olympic lifts for about 7 years. The behind the neck press is an essential lift for breaking down and isolating the movements of the snatch. Of course, you should work on your mobility before starting the snatch and you must do progressions for any isolated movements. The key to achieving your goals is to know the proper technique and the risks for any exercise when creating your program and with your goal in mind evaluate whether you are ready for this exercise.
Daniel! please make a video about healing elbow tendonitis.
Hey Daniel, I was wondering what your opinion was on behind the neck exercises that have to do with the following exercises:
- bridge/hollowback handstands
- snatch (the Olympic lift)
- Klokov press (for supplementation of snatch)
In terms of bridges and such, is it not as much of a concern as it is unloaded? For snatches, is it different because it's a straight-arm lift? Any info/advice would be appreciated, and many thanks for your videos!
very very informative man keep the good work up
Thank you for not simplifying the the actual medical terms. I do appreciate that.
Great video Daniel! :D
Very well explained!
Really great and informative information.
I feel that I don't stand properly if I don't PBN.
i do behind neck barbell press but empty bar ... just do to enhance mobility only ....
i think yes
Great explanation
Excelent video... More videos like this pls!
Thank you!
this is good. but I wanna add something. ido portal recommends playing with suboptimal positioning using bodyweight only once u have a strong foundation of strength.
so to clarify this would be like doing squats with pronated feet and internally rotated knees intentionally just your bodyweight. you don't go to muscle faluire that would be asking for an injury. but u increase the strength you have in that bad position gently. then you back off and return to normal squats. same with this behind the back position
the idea is that by strengthening yourself in these bad positions you will have better injury prevention and be stronger in the good positions
any thoughts Daniel?
oh I forogt it mention that u must not only have a strong foundation of strength to do this but also have the full mobilty required. again this is bodyweight or very light weights only. not a 1 rep max out and not a 25 reps to failure
Daniel son,
a while back when I started playing with the barbell too increase the load.
i thought I have awesome mobility, I would say you wont find alot of guys with my shoulder and thoracic mobility down at the gym. my shoulder strength is very good compared to the rest of my body too. so I thought, behind the head would be great for me as its a different movement and a plan of motion I'm not training. after a few weeks with progressive overload I hurt my shoulder, yeah best not to go for strength training in this plan.
pulling behind the head should be safer though......
i do still do bridge/wheel pose and hollow back type movements but not much pressing in that position, its really not worth going heavy.
Can you please make a video concerning the correction of rounded shoulder posture and forward head posture
I did behind the neck pull ups and it was fucking great
dude you rock!!
Thumbs up for this video like most of your other videos. Do you have any other tips for injury prevention for other joints like ankles and wrists?