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Eagerly waiting for the Aqara M3, every single sensor and light in my place has matter support anyway. It should still be easy to operate and I also want to get their Doorbell and U200 lock at some point. Much cheaper than the Homey Pro as well.
Needed to see this, so i could understand what all the hooplah is about. I've seen friends hop into the Home Assistant camp *and* the Homey Pro camp, each group claiming theirs is the "winner". I'd love to see a Venn diagram of where their respective userbase overlaps, if at all.
I'm a JavaScript developer, and love the idea of writing JS; potentially TypeScript, over Python like Home Assistant. Still, I was burned by SmartThings and so many other solutions over the years that I picked a few manufacturers and kept with those solutions. Home Assistant looks like it'll hold out longer, and it's not tied to a single device.
Those flows are a super old concept from back in 2015 then IoT was starting to pickup. Is that unique to Homey and not part of Home Assistant? it's something I really wanna setup so I'm not tied to a single manufacturer's products.
You're wrong about the Aqara FP2 sensor @ 2:30. It works amazingly well with Homey Pro through the Homekit Controller app, not Aqara app on the Homey Pro. P.S. I don't even have or use the apple ecosystem in my house. Team Android 💪🏾. I own 2 FP2 sensors that work with Homey and I don't use the native Aqara app at all, only during the intial setup and for updates. Homey like every other smart home device is for tinkeres. Just like Home assistant. Just nicer to look at and on a lesser scale. Everything in the smart home realm has its pitfalls. Its a relationship with a woman. Some real great days and more bad days. But you love them anyway and you're not going anywhere. Even when you're caught cheating. Lol food for thought
You obviously missed the mess last week that showed that Homey is not as local as advertised. The authentication is done on the web and last week’s server problem proved that. Additionally, you really don’t want Homey to update automatically as that will break your community apps at some point due to developers not updating their apps. As both the Homey and community apps are closed source, forking is not possible.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as fuck (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as f*** (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as f*** (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
Well you obviously misread most everything lol and especially the community apps are not closed sourced. Forked plenty of them. Perhaps you should read-in to how things work, before you share your "knowledge"?
Google Nest has effectively shut down their API's a long time ago. Google DOES NOT want to make friends with third parties like Homey (or literally ANY other smart hub). That bridge is burned.
If you were to connect the Ethernet adapter the way you show us at 1:13 it will definitely fail. It is neatly explained here: ruclips.net/video/kHsv5GH93Mw/видео.html About the company you refer to at 1:41 - it's Athom, not Anthom. As for the rest: what did you yourself think of this review?
The video didn't provide enough practical examples of how to connect devices to Homey or how Homey integrates with specific smart home devices. The reviewer spent too much time on general information about Homey and not enough time on the specifics of how it works. The video was overall a waste of time and the reviewer's comments were not very informative.
if your asking your self should i buy this. then no don't ! it's grate when it works for sure.... but this is beta. no one told me it was F -ing Beta. this is to much for beta... i was also told it would work local that was bullshit cos i need to have internet so i can use the app and homey pro need internet so it can connect to the server so i can access it through the app. if internet is offline the it will still control your light and stuff for about a week unless you restart it cos the light is red. and don't turn off the update cos i did that after updates forced my box to go offline for 2-3 weeks. i don't know whats wrong with the f-ing thing it works but it loses connection to the dns server now and then. the box is right there but the server is not letting it connect so i can't do shit.
You posted this 1 month ago and say its beta? When it was first released and you pre-ordered.. yes it was beta, you got that printed all over our order.
$ 399 is to expensive? Home Assistant would cost you way more in both hardware, man hours and loss of brain cells in the process of setting it up/maintaining it. The automation creation tool alone (Homey Advanced Flows) would literally save you dozens of hours, compared to something like Hubitat or HA. And we all now time is money. We would not be automating stuff, if not.
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Eagerly waiting for the Aqara M3, every single sensor and light in my place has matter support anyway. It should still be easy to operate and I also want to get their Doorbell and U200 lock at some point. Much cheaper than the Homey Pro as well.
AND they are exposing a ir sensor to matter
And after learning about it, wow what a dissapointment lol
@@DennisSchmitz Matter is in its baby shoes. Can't do much besides turning some things on and off.. rest is all done through, again specific hubs..
Needed to see this, so i could understand what all the hooplah is about. I've seen friends hop into the Home Assistant camp *and* the Homey Pro camp, each group claiming theirs is the "winner". I'd love to see a Venn diagram of where their respective userbase overlaps, if at all.
Its obvious that homey users lost... lg bought the company and already planning to add a backdoor to get user and usage data. Ggwp
I'm a JavaScript developer, and love the idea of writing JS; potentially TypeScript, over Python like Home Assistant. Still, I was burned by SmartThings and so many other solutions over the years that I picked a few manufacturers and kept with those solutions. Home Assistant looks like it'll hold out longer, and it's not tied to a single device.
Those flows are a super old concept from back in 2015 then IoT was starting to pickup. Is that unique to Homey and not part of Home Assistant? it's something I really wanna setup so I'm not tied to a single manufacturer's products.
There’s Node Red for Home Assistant. Not used it myself but believe it’s similar.
You're wrong about the Aqara FP2 sensor @ 2:30. It works amazingly well with Homey Pro through the Homekit Controller app, not Aqara app on the Homey Pro. P.S. I don't even have or use the apple ecosystem in my house. Team Android 💪🏾. I own 2 FP2 sensors that work with Homey and I don't use the native Aqara app at all, only during the intial setup and for updates. Homey like every other smart home device is for tinkeres. Just like Home assistant. Just nicer to look at and on a lesser scale. Everything in the smart home realm has its pitfalls. Its a relationship with a woman. Some real great days and more bad days. But you love them anyway and you're not going anywhere. Even when you're caught cheating. Lol food for thought
Very well made video!💪👍 Nice approach.
When much does it cost 100 dollars i will replace my home assistant for Homey
Great Video!
Djeez that price!
Hey it's Bon Jovi from the 2011 Lib Dub challenge
You obviously missed the mess last week that showed that Homey is not as local as advertised. The authentication is done on the web and last week’s server problem proved that. Additionally, you really don’t want Homey to update automatically as that will break your community apps at some point due to developers not updating their apps. As both the Homey and community apps are closed source, forking is not possible.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as fuck (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as f*** (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
This is the caveat of scaling a small company with (for now) limited resources. You simply cannot address every single small issue at once. This has, since the incident, been addressed and then promised fixed. Do you honestly want me to believe that you leave automatic system updates ON for something like Home Assistant? I run both systems. Rarely does a system update affect community apps for Homey. The same thing cannot be said for Home Assistant (with its rapid rather, chaotic development timeline). At times, I spend HOURS debugging the mess an update leaves behind on Home Assistant. (If you wonder why I address Home Assistant, I got one tell tale for you: «closed source». This seems to be the number one anti argument for nearly every single HA fanboy that I have encountered. Let aside, only a few select of you are even able to, or have the time to fork a codebase (and then eventually proceeding to actually FIXING the issue an update causes). Further more, Homey is actively recruiting big brands to make OFFICIAL apps (with dedicated, paid development teams. Teams that can, and will push out regular updates as needed). This is, in my opinion, certainly the way to move forwards towards a simpler, and more time efficient smart home future , compared to something like HA's community driven strategy, with its independent, non-paid , non-official, and most of the times amateur developers (short cuts, hacks, exploitation of API's, drop in interest, life changing priorities and all that...). As an example, Home Assistant's Homekit integration is sketchy as f*** (i wonder when Apple will pull the plug on that one). Granted, Homey does still rely heavily on community apps. Thankfully, most of the ones that are worth keeping, are being replaced by promptly updated official apps.
Well you obviously misread most everything lol and especially the community apps are not closed sourced. Forked plenty of them. Perhaps you should read-in to how things work, before you share your "knowledge"?
@@sen-sai1342 well, I’ve used Homey for over 4 years with the first version, so guess what I probably know more about it than you do.
Not enough compatibility with Google Nest products for instance, so I'm gonna wait until then.
Google Nest has effectively shut down their API's a long time ago. Google DOES NOT want to make friends with third parties like Homey (or literally ANY other smart hub). That bridge is burned.
This device has customers very low rating??!!!!!!
If you were to connect the Ethernet adapter the way you show us at 1:13 it will definitely fail.
It is neatly explained here: ruclips.net/video/kHsv5GH93Mw/видео.html
About the company you refer to at 1:41 - it's Athom, not Anthom.
As for the rest: what did you yourself think of this review?
The video didn't provide enough practical examples of how to connect devices to Homey or how Homey integrates with specific smart home devices.
The reviewer spent too much time on general information about Homey and not enough time on the specifics of how it works.
The video was overall a waste of time and the reviewer's comments were not very informative.
if your asking your self should i buy this. then no don't ! it's grate when it works for sure.... but this is beta. no one told me it was F -ing Beta. this is to much for beta... i was also told it would work local that was bullshit cos i need to have internet so i can use the app and homey pro need internet so it can connect to the server so i can access it through the app. if internet is offline the it will still control your light and stuff for about a week unless you restart it cos the light is red. and don't turn off the update cos i did that after updates forced my box to go offline for 2-3 weeks. i don't know whats wrong with the f-ing thing it works but it loses connection to the dns server now and then. the box is right there but the server is not letting it connect so i can't do shit.
You posted this 1 month ago and say its beta? When it was first released and you pre-ordered.. yes it was beta, you got that printed all over our order.
Way too expensive
$ 399 is to expensive? Home Assistant would cost you way more in both hardware, man hours and loss of brain cells in the process of setting it up/maintaining it. The automation creation tool alone (Homey Advanced Flows) would literally save you dozens of hours, compared to something like Hubitat or HA. And we all now time is money. We would not be automating stuff, if not.