Put that flash on my Q2 and I couldn’t get it off for a long time. I thought it was stuck forever. Thankful for the internet and found someone who explained how to get it off without damaging the camera. Sorry this happened to you Dave!!
honestly, you are one of those rare real photography channels. no bullshit and just straight up. I love it! and that last part.. M11 Monochrom.. you put a smile on my face big time. Stay awesome Dave!
While I completely understand your frustration with this issue, it's apparently a very common issue with the Leica hotshoe rather than the quality of the flash you installed on it. M users have been reporting this problem even using Leica speedlights where the pressure plate is so weak that the pressure is all but gone after even one time using a Leica flash. I would honestly take this up to Leica for repair since it is a common and well known issue rather than bad-mouthing the quality of a company not responsible for a faulty camera's manufacturing.
Sorry to hear that. Had been using the Godox Lux Junior, and Senior, with my old timey M 240, and many other film and digital cameras, without issue. Took a look at the 240 hot shoe and no issues so far but I will not likely use it again on that camera just in case.
GOOD LUCK on the repair! I sent my Leica M0P in for repair and they told me I’m 17th in line for the same part as others have been sainting since MARCH. They have “no timeline for repair”… Leica has ZERO loaner cameras and the only two option that I have is to wait months for repair, or get my camera sent back to me without the fix.
Did you know that even expensive flashes can wreck your digital camera? Flash trigger voltages used to be a LOT higher, sufficient to fry most digital cameras' flash circuits from the last 20 years. It's imperative that you not use a flash with a camera without knowing 1. That the mount is actually designed for your camera and 2. That your camera can handle the trigger voltage. This applies also to external flashes that you may be attempting to use through a PC hotshoe adapter. If you have a high voltage trigger flash, you MUST get a voltage limiter like a Wein Safe Sync.
@@ronangsr Wireless triggers can definitely solve the problem, but they're not always a viable option. When they can work, though, you're absolutely right - there is literally no chance the flash can fry your camera. If you have to use an old flash system whose trigger voltage is too high and no wireless option is available, a Safe Sync (or similar) can keep you working. Plus, a Safe Sync requires no batteries, no pairing, and no "I hope this thing and the flash are on speaking terms" worries.
I’m still waiting for my M11 to return, but luckily the repairs are being made at no charge, thanks to the amazing team at Leica. Thanks Dave for sharing the warning (and that Easter egg)!
It happened to me too on my M10-R using the Godox remote. However, it was not Godox's fault but rather a user error. I was not aware of the security lock pin that appears as soon as you turn the screw dial. Yes, Godox shoe is quite tight to begin with. I used a small drop of Gorilla glue and slid back the pressure plate in, it's been working fine since. LOL
Thanks for the warning I do have this godox flash but before I could try it on my M11, I bought a SF40 and kept the godox for the fujifilm. I’ve used the SF40 many times now, and thankfully never mounted the Godox on M11. Thanks to you , now I know better, to not use this flash for anything which takes a photo. I hope yours gets repaired soon.
Hi Dave, I was considering this flash. Not now. Also, wanted to let you know I got the Nomad pen you recommended. It is a great pen as you said. Perfect size and weigh. Thank you.
You may have saved MY M11! I haven’t had that problem with that flash - yet. But now I’m thinking of replacing it. Maybe make a video of your better alternatives? Small and simple is great but not at that cost! Thanks for sharing!
Heck, I’m nervous just sliding the Visoflex II in and out of the hot shoe. It’s a positive, secure fit, but I sense you could do some real damage if the pressure you applied was not perfectly true to the path of travel under the side rails. When you look at the fine tolerances in the Leica hot shoe blank it makes sense that a poorly designed metal plate on an accessory could tear up the hot shoe. Really sorry that happened to you! The good news is that it appears that small metal piece you showed is designed to fail (like a shear pin) in order to protect the hot shoe overall.
They’ll want to protect the integrity of the product, from their perspective, by doing the work themselves. It’s not a bad idea anyway since they will make sure that was the only damage. At least Leica USA has a reasonable turnaround.
That secure pin is what you have to watch out for. Things can go wrong with the unlock mechanism even on expensive flashes (happened to me). Usually, there is a workaround. Sacrifice the flash if necessary. Just never brute force them out and risk damaging more expensive equipment.
To me it sounds like either you didn't unscrew the flash all the way and the little tab that helps hold the flash in place pull the Lecia plate off. Or Lecia are not compatible with this Godox flash. I have 2 of them and have not had any issues using on my Nikon, FujiFilm, or Olympus cameras. But I would always recommend using what you feel works best with your camera system.
No, it was unscrewed all the way each time. Other people on these comments have had similar experiences. The pins on the bottom stick. They even stuck in those video.
Bummer. I think many of us learn the hard way trying to save a few bucks. I pretty much buy first party stuff for all my gear nowadays - flashes, batteries, lenses, etc. - sure it's more $$ but it all works seamlessly. Sorry to hear that it happened to you.
That exact same thing happened to me on my q2 with that same flash. What i did was wraps my Leica in a towels, and grappled a sawzall and cut the flash off
Dang man I’m so sorry this happened that’s crazy. I have the same flash and on my M240 it’s always kinda loose. It takes a lot of twisting the lock to get it to hold well. So I wonder if there’s a difference in the hot shoes? I’ll check my flash tho to make sure those springs are okay
Woah sorry bro. Thanks for the heads up. I got a Leica SF40 so I can have TTL. Expensive af, but I use flash for sports and some night stuff for the candle light pop
@@davidherring It could also be another way around, that Leica is not third-party friendly as it seems it's their hot shoe that's slightly different from other brands. It just doesn't seem right to blame solely the flash when it wasn't event marketed as compatible with Leica.
SF60 for me. I have a ton of ProFoto lights but for a nice bit of fill that little Leica flash does just fine. Call me pedantic, but if the manufacturer makes an accessory that is usually what i'm gonna get.
Eek. I recently bought a Godox flash (not the same one, but another one in that price range) and now I'm afraid to try it. Which might be a good thing. Thanks for this video.
I actually have a few guitars, this one is out right now. It's a custom build by my friend Steve, a luthier in Minnesota. He is incredible and has built guitars for Prince's (former) band. As a bald guy, yes I'm into hats haha.
The pin of the flash is connected to a mechanism that slides it up and down. If you pull of the speedlight without having detached the pin completely, then this happens. Happens to me with an expensive canon speedlight. The only way to prevent this is, that you know of this pin. And the more expensive Godox speedlights have system that rotates by pushing button. I was also going to by the Godox but endet up buying the Jinbei hi-5. also cheap but with a internal battery that you can charge with usb-c . Regarding the Godox and other speedlights . If they get warm they change in dimensions. This also makes it much harder to detach the speedlight …. And it may destroy the metal thing of the Leica. I hope this helps you …. Cheers Peter
Dave, I have the sf60 Leica flash, and those little spring things on the side have compressed from putting their flash on the hot shoe... I can adjust them with an eyeglass screwdriver,, but my Leica thumb grip now has play in it... They should do your repair under warrantee, as this seems to be a weak link.... I know, let's do a class action lawsuit. Just kidding, I love the m11.
Oh my. I have a competitor’s budget flash, the Light pix Q20, and it too is Very tight in the M11’s hot shoe. I mean you have to force it on and off. I stopped using it because it didn’t feel right. All this because I didn’t want to shell out for the very expensive small Leica flashes like the SF24
Thank you for sharing your experience, so we are pre-warned. My heart goes out to you that your gorgeous new M11 is spoiled. Sometimes "low cost" is "good value" and sometimes it's "cheap" (....s...t) ! But you would be forgiven for believing that the hot shoe interface would be absolutely universal. I would have been more concerned about the electrical connection. Ironically that seems not to have been an issue. (Now you can't use an EVF either !)
I’m sure this specific flash did this. But let’s also admit here that the Leica flash show design is horrible. And why anyone would think that it’s a good idea to use these thumb levers is beyond me. I bet they destroy the flash shoe also over time. I bought the little Q Flash thing and it works pretty well. I see nothing on it that would damage the flash shoe. And it has a build in remote option. I was thinking about getting the “Leica” flash SF40 but can’t justify the size, price and third party manufacturing for it.
My experience as well. The springs loosen up quickly. After having the spring-plate replaced I no longer use the hotshoe on the M11. I lost a 28mm external viewfinder from Zeiss because of it...
If you want to save money or more likely you’re on a budget. Then buy old school used stuff. I have a tiny very old Nikon flash that works on my M9 and even my old big ass canon flash works very well on it. Both can be had for much less then that Godox flash. Or what i might do in the future is get a small used Leica flash. One would just need to make sure full feature compatible.
@@davidherring thanks Im probably opt for something else. If you have any other suggestions that would be fantastic. The leica doesnt have a lot of oem options which can be frustrating
Surprised Leica won't send you (and your buddy) a new pressure plate. Looks like a DIY install. If I bought a $9K camera, I'd expect a little goodwill. And better service, which is notoriously lacking with Leica. Lucky the electronics didn't fry your camera too. NEVER use 3rd party batteries or flashes for this reason, cuz as you state, they interface with your camera.
Well, while this is a huge bummer, it's better than my initial thought. My mind went to "fried" which would be a thousand times worse. 🙂 Time for some Leica SuperGlue. Disclaimer: I am not a certified Leica repair person. 😋
Breh that godox was one of the worst flashes Ive ever used. the flash literally short circuit itself after 2 shots. returned immediately. on the other hand, LightPix Labs FlashQ Q20II is the best cheap flash for my leica, and it has a built in transmitter and receiver which is dope too!
Well now you have to buy another leica m11... also if you're waiting a whole year to have that mini plate inside the hotshoe repaired it sucks... btw I also have this flash - haven't used it much but I put it on my Fujifilm digital camera and also on film cameras and nothing bad happened so maybe it's a Leica thing after all: it's too sensitive. If you go the Leica way you should stick to Leica approved or Leica produced accessories, innit so ? Otherwise someone will be shooting with the phone for the forseable future...
😂You own a 9 k camera and you buy a 70 bucks flash. Come on, sure these cheap flashes are not precisely crafted. But the hot-shoe construction on the Leica made me cringe too. I am sooo happy with my Xpro2 because I never had or will have Leica problems …. with the Fuji xpro2… the camera just works everyday like a workhorse…it also survived sudden heavy rain…the xpro2 is a tank…So happy about it…that I will buy a second one just for safety reasons…..😊
Dave, This happened to me as well. The pins on all Godox flashs are notoriously bad. I had a Godox speedlight on my M11 recently and I think the height of the speedlight added tension to bending the plate as welll.... Ugggg! My thumb grip falls off all the time now as well
Wow you should contact Godox, Who knows because you are a creative/YT’er they might want a chance to fix your camera for you???? I know this is semi lame but who knows? You have not, because you ask not….
I am glad I didn't had time to unpack this flash since I bought it like a year ago 😂 I usually use Godox high end flashes and ,just like you, I thought it would be nice to test this retro flash with my A7CII and emulate that point n shoot vibe . That flash will never see a daylight after this video 😂
You obviously haven’t come across or heard of the Adage - “Buy cheap, Pay twice!” In your case, Pay 1,000s! Lesson learnt? There’s a good reason to stay with OEM stuff - may cost, sometimes, a little more! However, this saves a lot of sleepless nights! Yes, I’ve been there - back in the day (mid 80s) in my early days of our hobby of photography! Who out there remembers the ‘cheap’ ORWO slide film? Say no more!
A lot of these Chinese made stuff are put together with spit and polish. Don't ask me how I know. I do a bit of model engineering in my spare time. When I started, I bought a small Chinese mini lathe, although this one was for the UK market and apparently of a much better grade than the usual stuff. Still, it required a lot of work before it turned accurately. In the engineering world these Chinese stuff are called WOP ( work in progress ) because out of the factory they are not fit for purpose. The problem is they are no longer that cheap either. Best find a good quality accessory and pay the price one, as you suggested. What happened to Metz? Has Metz become Chinese as well?
You could say the same for many of us… we don’t buy a “cheap” flash because it’s cheap. We buy it because it’s form profile and overall user experience, in the thought that it will work and last just as it is supposed to. No one expects when buying one that it would damage a camera hot shoe. That said, I’ve used the same flash on three very pricey bodies and have not yet had this issue. If you have a recommendation of a flash that is universal, small, and has a stylistic look to it (outside of that Fuji one I think that’s out there), please do. Maybe Dave could even do an aftermarket series on using on camera flash on Leica system.
@@JonathanCWard I have never put a flash directly on a rangefinder camera. I have been a professional photographer since 1981 and have used Elinchrom, Broncolor and Norman flash units in studio. I never used on camera flash on camera because of the possible red eye issues. Outdoors I always used a reflector.
Put that flash on my Q2 and I couldn’t get it off for a long time. I thought it was stuck forever. Thankful for the internet and found someone who explained how to get it off without damaging the camera. Sorry this happened to you Dave!!
Yeah this thing is poorly made. Sucks how common I'm finding this problem to be!
honestly, you are one of those rare real photography channels. no bullshit and just straight up. I love it! and that last part.. M11 Monochrom.. you put a smile on my face big time. Stay awesome Dave!
Aww thank you! I’m too old for bs haha.
While I completely understand your frustration with this issue, it's apparently a very common issue with the Leica hotshoe rather than the quality of the flash you installed on it. M users have been reporting this problem even using Leica speedlights where the pressure plate is so weak that the pressure is all but gone after even one time using a Leica flash. I would honestly take this up to Leica for repair since it is a common and well known issue rather than bad-mouthing the quality of a company not responsible for a faulty camera's manufacturing.
Thanks for sharing.
Sorry to hear that. Had been using the Godox Lux Junior, and Senior, with my old timey M 240, and many other film and digital cameras, without issue. Took a look at the 240 hot shoe and no issues so far but I will not likely use it again on that camera just in case.
Yeah I'd be very careful using this flash.
GOOD LUCK on the repair! I sent my Leica M0P in for repair and they told me I’m 17th in line for the same part as others have been sainting since MARCH. They have “no timeline for repair”… Leica has ZERO loaner cameras and the only two option that I have is to wait months for repair, or get my camera sent back to me without the fix.
I have no idea when I can actually send it in. May just live with it.
Did you know that even expensive flashes can wreck your digital camera? Flash trigger voltages used to be a LOT higher, sufficient to fry most digital cameras' flash circuits from the last 20 years. It's imperative that you not use a flash with a camera without knowing 1. That the mount is actually designed for your camera and 2. That your camera can handle the trigger voltage. This applies also to external flashes that you may be attempting to use through a PC hotshoe adapter. If you have a high voltage trigger flash, you MUST get a voltage limiter like a Wein Safe Sync.
Good to know!
Use a wireless trigger ;)
@@ronangsr Wireless triggers can definitely solve the problem, but they're not always a viable option. When they can work, though, you're absolutely right - there is literally no chance the flash can fry your camera. If you have to use an old flash system whose trigger voltage is too high and no wireless option is available, a Safe Sync (or similar) can keep you working. Plus, a Safe Sync requires no batteries, no pairing, and no "I hope this thing and the flash are on speaking terms" worries.
@@mapgeek6yes I agree, the best flash is the pocket light labs qcii, works perfect with m11
I’m still waiting for my M11 to return, but luckily the repairs are being made at no charge, thanks to the amazing team at Leica. Thanks Dave for sharing the warning (and that Easter egg)!
Leica does have an amazing team but the repair times are slow unfortunately.
It happened to me too on my M10-R using the Godox remote. However, it was not Godox's fault but rather a user error. I was not aware of the security lock pin that appears as soon as you turn the screw dial. Yes, Godox shoe is quite tight to begin with. I used a small drop of Gorilla glue and slid back the pressure plate in, it's been working fine since. LOL
I have a new pressure plate on its way from Germany, so I’m hoping that settles it!
Thanks for the warning I do have this godox flash but before I could try it on my M11, I bought a SF40 and kept the godox for the fujifilm. I’ve used the SF40 many times now, and thankfully never mounted the Godox on M11.
Thanks to you , now I know better, to not use this flash for anything which takes a photo. I hope yours gets repaired soon.
Thank you.
Hi Dave, I was considering this flash. Not now. Also, wanted to let you know I got the Nomad pen you recommended. It is a great pen as you said. Perfect size and weigh. Thank you.
Yeah I'd steer clear of it! Glad you're enjoying that pen. I've used it everyday since 2020.
You may have saved MY M11! I haven’t had that problem with that flash - yet. But now I’m thinking of replacing it. Maybe make a video of your better alternatives? Small and simple is great but not at that cost! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you've been spared!
Heck, I’m nervous just sliding the Visoflex II in and out of the hot shoe. It’s a positive, secure fit, but I sense you could do some real damage if the pressure you applied was not perfectly true to the path of travel under the side rails. When you look at the fine tolerances in the Leica hot shoe blank it makes sense that a poorly designed metal plate on an accessory could tear up the hot shoe. Really sorry that happened to you! The good news is that it appears that small metal piece you showed is designed to fail (like a shear pin) in order to protect the hot shoe overall.
I think so, too. I wish Leica would just send me the plate to replace myself.
They’ll want to protect the integrity of the product, from their perspective, by doing the work themselves. It’s not a bad idea anyway since they will make sure that was the only damage. At least Leica USA has a reasonable turnaround.
1:05 was my favorite part lol ... lesson learned from you, don't mess with your camera gear attachments
Yes!
That secure pin is what you have to watch out for. Things can go wrong with the unlock mechanism even on expensive flashes (happened to me). Usually, there is a workaround. Sacrifice the flash if necessary. Just never brute force them out and risk damaging more expensive equipment.
Thanks for sharing!
To me it sounds like either you didn't unscrew the flash all the way and the little tab that helps hold the flash in place pull the Lecia plate off. Or Lecia are not compatible with this Godox flash. I have 2 of them and have not had any issues using on my Nikon, FujiFilm, or Olympus cameras. But I would always recommend using what you feel works best with your camera system.
No, it was unscrewed all the way each time. Other people on these comments have had similar experiences. The pins on the bottom stick. They even stuck in those video.
Bummer. I think many of us learn the hard way trying to save a few bucks. I pretty much buy first party stuff for all my gear nowadays - flashes, batteries, lenses, etc. - sure it's more $$ but it all works seamlessly. Sorry to hear that it happened to you.
Thanks. I never considered something like a small accessory to be so potentially destructive.
That exact same thing happened to me on my q2 with that same flash. What i did was wraps my Leica in a towels, and grappled a sawzall and cut the flash off
That’s nuts!
@@davidherring it worked, I’d figured it would be cheaper to replace the lux flash than to send out my Leica for repair
Dang man I’m so sorry this happened that’s crazy. I have the same flash and on my M240 it’s always kinda loose. It takes a lot of twisting the lock to get it to hold well. So I wonder if there’s a difference in the hot shoes? I’ll check my flash tho to make sure those springs are okay
Thanks, yeah check those springs.
I am glad I am still using my Leica flash. I thought I paid too much for it. I do use off-camera flash coils, which makes me wonder...
I rarely use flash so I didn't really consider a Leica flash. Wish I did!
Woah sorry bro. Thanks for the heads up. I got a Leica SF40 so I can have TTL. Expensive af, but I use flash for sports and some night stuff for the candle light pop
Same bro I got the SF40 and paid the leica tax
I don't use flash enough to justify it...but now I wish I did!
Seems like this only happened on Leicas so far. Godox flashes has been awesome on other systems especially with their wireless ecosystem.
Maybe so, but definitely not Leica friendly.
@@davidherring It could also be another way around, that Leica is not third-party friendly as it seems it's their hot shoe that's slightly different from other brands. It just doesn't seem right to blame solely the flash when it wasn't event marketed as compatible with Leica.
M11 Mono is the best. Had mine for a year now. Unique experience that changes the way you see the world
I’m excited to give it a go.
SF60 for me. I have a ton of ProFoto lights but for a nice bit of fill that little Leica flash does just fine. Call me pedantic, but if the manufacturer makes an accessory that is usually what i'm gonna get.
Thanks for sharing.
Eek. I recently bought a Godox flash (not the same one, but another one in that price range) and now I'm afraid to try it. Which might be a good thing. Thanks for this video.
Glad you were spared.
What is that Tele-looking guitar with maybe a Bigsby? You into Hats and Guitars here and fb?
BTW thanks for the warning here.
I actually have a few guitars, this one is out right now. It's a custom build by my friend Steve, a luthier in Minnesota. He is incredible and has built guitars for Prince's (former) band. As a bald guy, yes I'm into hats haha.
The pin of the flash is connected to a mechanism that slides it up and down. If you pull of the speedlight without having detached the pin completely, then this happens. Happens to me with an expensive canon speedlight. The only way to prevent this is, that you know of this pin. And the more expensive Godox speedlights have system that rotates by pushing button. I was also going to by the Godox but endet up buying the Jinbei hi-5. also cheap but with a internal battery that you can charge with usb-c .
Regarding the Godox and other speedlights . If they get warm they change in dimensions. This also makes it much harder to detach the speedlight …. And it may destroy the metal thing of the Leica. I hope this helps you …. Cheers Peter
Thanks for sharing!
Dave,
I have the sf60 Leica flash, and those little spring things on the side have compressed from putting their flash on the hot shoe... I can adjust them with an eyeglass screwdriver,, but my Leica thumb grip now has play in it... They should do your repair under warrantee, as this seems to be a weak link.... I know, let's do a class action lawsuit. Just kidding, I love the m11.
Thanks for sharing!
Oh my. I have a competitor’s budget flash, the Light pix Q20, and it too is Very tight in the M11’s hot shoe. I mean you have to force it on and off. I stopped using it because it didn’t feel right. All this because I didn’t want to shell out for the very expensive small Leica flashes like the SF24
I'd bail on that flash immediately.
Thank you for sharing your experience, so we are pre-warned. My heart goes out to you that your gorgeous new M11 is spoiled. Sometimes "low cost" is "good value" and sometimes it's "cheap" (....s...t) ! But you would be forgiven for believing that the hot shoe interface would be absolutely universal. I would have been more concerned about the electrical connection. Ironically that seems not to have been an issue. (Now you can't use an EVF either !)
Thank you. Yeah, definitely a pain.
oh that went really badly, thanks for sharing
Yep, it sure did.
There is an irony making ad for a low budget product just 2 seconds after complaining about the other low budget item 😂
The theme of this video is low budget. Seemed on theme.
I’m sure this specific flash did this. But let’s also admit here that the Leica flash show design is horrible. And why anyone would think that it’s a good idea to use these thumb levers is beyond me. I bet they destroy the flash shoe also over time.
I bought the little Q Flash thing and it works pretty well. I see nothing on it that would damage the flash shoe. And it has a build in remote option. I was thinking about getting the “Leica” flash SF40 but can’t justify the size, price and third party manufacturing for it.
Be that as it may, no other accessory that’s ever been in my hot shoe has given me issues except this flash.
The Leica official thumbrest made my hot shoe a little looser than it should be.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
My experience as well. The springs loosen up quickly. After having the spring-plate replaced I no longer use the hotshoe on the M11. I lost a 28mm external viewfinder from Zeiss because of it...
Love my Godox V1 does the same job as the Profoto version which is 5 times more expensive.
Glad your experience has been better with Godox.
If you want to save money or more likely you’re on a budget. Then buy old school used stuff. I have a tiny very old Nikon flash that works on my M9 and even my old big ass canon flash works very well on it.
Both can be had for much less then that Godox flash.
Or what i might do in the future is get a small used Leica flash. One would just need to make sure full feature compatible.
Yeah, this is probably the best way to go.
Can’t Leica send you a replacement hot shoe plate?
My thought too
They'd rather it be sent to them for repair, which is why Scott (who I mentioned) has sent his in. I wish they'd just send me the part.
They won’t do that, they need the money ! It the price you have to pay when you buy premium products .
@@davidherring aw that sucks. Will you sent yours as well?
@@r423sdex they do repairs for free.
damn i had this exact set up. I havent had the issue my self though but now I feel a little trepidatious about now :(
Be warned!
@@davidherring thanks Im probably opt for something else. If you have any other suggestions that would be fantastic. The leica doesnt have a lot of oem options which can be frustrating
I’ve been using a Reflex Lab flash. It’s cheap and tiny. Feels much better built and has a decent reputation.
Surprised Leica won't send you (and your buddy) a new pressure plate. Looks like a DIY install. If I bought a $9K camera, I'd expect a little goodwill. And better service, which is notoriously lacking with Leica. Lucky the electronics didn't fry your camera too. NEVER use 3rd party batteries or flashes for this reason, cuz as you state, they interface with your camera.
I asked, hope to hear back!
Thanks for the warning!
You're welcome!
Well, while this is a huge bummer, it's better than my initial thought. My mind went to "fried" which would be a thousand times worse. 🙂 Time for some Leica SuperGlue. Disclaimer: I am not a certified Leica repair person. 😋
Ha, yeah I'm glad it didn't fry it. I don't see a scenario where I'm putting any superglue on my Leica haha.
Very valuable lesson 👍👍
Yep, unfortunately.
Exactly the same thing happend to me sadly
Seems to be a lot of people sharing that in the comments!
Breh that godox was one of the worst flashes Ive ever used.
the flash literally short circuit itself after 2 shots. returned immediately.
on the other hand, LightPix Labs FlashQ Q20II is the best cheap flash for my leica, and it has a built in transmitter and receiver which is dope too!
I grabbed a Reflex Lab flash and it's getting the job done.
@@davidherring that one is good too!
You got an M11 Monochrom? Do tell.
Coming soon.
wompwomp leica build
K.
Well now you have to buy another leica m11... also if you're waiting a whole year to have that mini plate inside the hotshoe repaired it sucks... btw I also have this flash - haven't used it much but I put it on my Fujifilm digital camera and also on film cameras and nothing bad happened so maybe it's a Leica thing after all: it's too sensitive. If you go the Leica way you should stick to Leica approved or Leica produced accessories, innit so ? Otherwise someone will be shooting with the phone for the forseable future...
Camera works fine but hotshoe has the issue. Thanks for the comment.
😂You own a 9 k camera and you buy a 70 bucks flash. Come on, sure these cheap flashes are not precisely crafted. But the hot-shoe construction on the Leica made me cringe too. I am sooo happy with my Xpro2 because I never had or will have Leica problems …. with the Fuji xpro2… the camera just works everyday like a workhorse…it also survived sudden heavy rain…the xpro2 is a tank…So happy about it…that I will buy a second one just for safety reasons…..😊
Thanks for sharing.
Contact a company called DAG they have Leica parts and repair.
I know DAG, but I'm not certain he can source parts for the M11. But I'll hit him up and ask him.
Dave, This happened to me as well. The pins on all Godox flashs are notoriously bad. I had a Godox speedlight on my M11 recently and I think the height of the speedlight added tension to bending the plate as welll.... Ugggg! My thumb grip falls off all the time now as well
Such a pain.
Wow you should contact Godox, Who knows because you are a creative/YT’er they might want a chance to fix your camera for you???? I know this is semi lame but who knows? You have not, because you ask not….
Not a bad idea!
Sorry about your Leica. You are my research
Science has concluded that you should avoid this flash.
I am glad I didn't had time to unpack this flash since I bought it like a year ago 😂 I usually use Godox high end flashes and ,just like you, I thought it would be nice to test this retro flash with my A7CII and emulate that point n shoot vibe . That flash will never see a daylight after this video 😂
Good call, keep it in the box. Forever.
Oh No!!!!
Yep.... I guess it's no-hot-shoe-accessories for me for a while.
Leica sucs, not Godox...
Bro.
You obviously haven’t come across or heard of the Adage - “Buy cheap, Pay twice!” In your case, Pay 1,000s! Lesson learnt?
There’s a good reason to stay with OEM stuff - may cost, sometimes, a little more! However, this saves a lot of sleepless nights! Yes, I’ve been there - back in the day (mid 80s) in my early days of our hobby of photography!
Who out there remembers the ‘cheap’ ORWO slide film? Say no more!
Oh I know that old adage. I just never imagined a small accessory would be do destructive.
A lot of these Chinese made stuff are put together with spit and polish. Don't ask me how I know. I do a bit of model engineering in my spare time. When I started, I bought a small Chinese mini lathe, although this one was for the UK market and apparently of a much better grade than the usual stuff. Still, it required a lot of work before it turned accurately. In the engineering world these Chinese stuff are called WOP ( work in progress ) because out of the factory they are not fit for purpose. The problem is they are no longer that cheap either. Best find a good quality accessory and pay the price one, as you suggested. What happened to Metz? Has Metz become Chinese as well?
Thanks for sharing.
So you spend big bucks on your camera and go cheap on the flash and pay for it.
Didn't seem like a small flash was this consequential. Now I know.
You could say the same for many of us… we don’t buy a “cheap” flash because it’s cheap. We buy it because it’s form profile and overall user experience, in the thought that it will work and last just as it is supposed to. No one expects when buying one that it would damage a camera hot shoe. That said, I’ve used the same flash on three very pricey bodies and have not yet had this issue. If you have a recommendation of a flash that is universal, small, and has a stylistic look to it (outside of that Fuji one I think that’s out there), please do. Maybe Dave could even do an aftermarket series on using on camera flash on Leica system.
@@JonathanCWard I have never put a flash directly on a rangefinder camera. I have been a professional photographer since 1981 and have used Elinchrom, Broncolor and Norman flash units in studio. I never used on camera flash on camera because of the possible red eye issues. Outdoors I always used a reflector.
Should have got one made in Germany.
Hindsight!
Get better quality camera like Fuji.
Ok.
The Godox trigger did the same to mine.
Not surprised honestly.