Thanks for watching, Tom! There are a lot of small wheels and pinions inside a watch, and to reduce friction as much as possible, they rotate inside synthetic ruby bearings. A basic good watch has 17 jewels or more. Today most watches are automatic and typically have about 25 jewels. These are all synthetic and not worth more than a few dollars, but the number of jewels still serves as an indication of the quality of the movement.
i love watching skilled masters doing a watch rebuild . it must be so fun to be able to bring great watches back to life. i have a few tissots and are my most loved watches
That’s my idea of a beautiful watch. Love your videos. Just the right mix of history, technical, and other information on a foundation of deep knowledge and great skills.
Thanks so much Wendy, that's great to hear :) Vintage Tissots are very nice watches with great value for money and it's really cool to hear an old watch turning into a family heirloom 👍
@@VintageWatchServices : i have a steel seastar and i love the one piece ( waterproof ) case and the classic design of the silver dial and plain stick hands . i think its around 1968 date from what i saw on the internet
Great job Stian, the finished watch looks very good. I'm starting to like these vintage Tissot's more and more, they get the design elements and simplicity right so often
Thank you so much. I've got a Tissot Sea Star 7, and I was scratching my head about how to open it and what "use key No 315T" meant. I can now get on with the refurbishment.
They actually made a set of "keys" which would go around the crystal and allowed it to be easily removed without the risk of scratches or breakage. One guy on the watchrepairtalk forum who was trying to open a Sea Star Seven "UFO" had to 3d print his own tool. Of course nowadays they would only sell tools like that to dealers with how exclusive the Swatch Group has become.
Knowledge, steady hand, a littlebit (more) love, here is the key for resuscitation of an old beautiful watch as this Tissot. Well done ! Keep it ON my friend ! RESPECT !!
You did a great job and emphasised the point of "do not assume all monocoque cased watches use a split stem." I think all Tissot Seven watches were front loaders which explains why many of them haven't been serviced because of the wording on the case, Use key 315 which is a tool to grip the crystal. I've seen a few of these watches with deep gouges on the back of the case where someone has attempted to lever off the non removable back. Many thanks for a superb presentation.
Hello R B, thanks for watching! That's the fascinating thing with mechanical watches, that a few wheels and pinions driven by a couple of springs can be accurate to 99.99% or better, even after 50 or more years :)
I suppose I need to look for a mechanical Tissor (to go with the quartz one that I picked up 15 years ago to be married in). This was a great instructional video and I like that it required minimal case work to look beautiful. It's the size and style of watch that I like. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for another wonderful video. And now we also know why there are so many many hairs stopping all kind of watch movements all over the world ... My father made it a habit of presenting his grandkids with a watch of their own choice on their 20th birthday. So I went shopping for one with my daughter and she chose a rose gold Tissot World Time (a vintage model from the 60s or so). While I did not like the name too much, the watch really is a gorgeous and most beautiful piece of Swiss watch-making history and she has cherished it ever since. My first encounter with Tissot came in 1976: my parents bought me my first automatic watch, a PR-516 diver's watch. It served me for a long time until I wanted more complications. I still own this watch (in excellent condition) and only recently found out that it is a "James Bond" watch, as Roger Moore prominently wears one at the end of "Live and Let Die". It has made me feel 10cm taller since I can brag about it to my son and friends, which is not something I ever expected from a Tissot.
Wow, that's a fantastic gift for your daughter! The Tissot world time is a magnificent piece indeed, very stylish. Interesting info about the James Bond Tissot, I didn't know that :)
Great workmanship & a stunning watch. I have one of these movements apart on my bench but out of a 70's Seastar with a screw on back. Fingers crossed i can get it back together.
That is a stunning little timepiece. Another interesting upload. I wonder what percentage of people are caught out by the way the mov't is accessed & removed? I was glad to hear you speak positively about Certina. I have a DS Podium and a DS PH200M. The latter is probably my favourite piece, and the brand in general taught me a good lesson in the law of diminishing returns. And Tissot? Interestingly, I have the stainless steel version of that Tissot Heritage Navigator in my sights for 2022. It's a beautiful watch; a large watch, but I have a large wrist. Thank-you for an entertaining little interlude. I laughed out loud a few times, learned more about how much I still have to learn and had some watch purchases - past and future - validated! That's 20 mins well spent! 👍🏼
Thanks, Anthony, that's very cool to hear :) Before the quartz revolution, there were so many brands making their own watches and movements. The loss of variety since the 1970's is just very sad, but it's also what happens in any industry over time. Vintage Certinas and Tissots are very good watches that offer pretty much unparalleled value for money. I don't think you can go wrong with those two brands in that sense and there are also others that I will work on in the future! 😉
The perfect end to my week. It's a pity that watchmakers are all such hulking, and may I say, self-deprecating lot. They have decided to pit their brawn and brain against the tiniest of foes showing their true restraint as if their true powers were released the world would not know what to do with them. The heroes we didn't know we needed. Have a great week, sir.
That's probably the most accurate description of the never ending battle between watchmakers and watch parts I've ever read. You sir, just won the internet. 🥳
Stian, I appreciate your prompt reply to each and every person who has sent you a message after watching your video. You are a very humble person and I am sure you will definitely reach the pinnacle of success in the not too distant future. God bless.
Hello K, thanks so much for that! If I'm at my computer I get notifications for comments and try to respond right away. It's not all due to me being such a nice guy, it's also because the RUclips algorithm uses the number of comments to determine how it should recommend a video 😂 That said, I do think it's a matter of politeness to respond to my viewers and of course to answer any questions that come my way as best I can. Maybe if/when I have 10x more viewers I won't be able to do respond to all comments any longer but as long as it is manageable I'm certainly committed to doing so!
My first new Swiss watch I bought was a Tissot Ballade two-tone with a 2824 in St. Thomas, USVI. I was 17. The second was a year later from an online retailer, a Bond Omega Seamaster like that worn by Brosnan in his second movie onward. That was 21 years ago; I’ve bought vintage ever since.
I’m not sure if it’s this calibre specifically but a derivative of it has a stem with a bevel in the setting lever slot that when pulled hard enough, by design it will lift the setting lever to remove the stem. Like you, I prefer to do it the same way as you 👍🏻
Ah ...you run a better repair site: appealing as it is not only technical but gets a good boost by your commentary which gives it an interesting extra. Much appreciated . I gave my 1968 Seastar 7 to my son not long ago and it is nice to see hoe much he likes it and appreciates it. Your approach has some valuable extras .....like demagnetization as standard procedure. ( If you don't start at the beginning , you won't get anywhere ...Jiddhu Krisnamurthi ) Cleaning pivots with Pegwood makes excellent sense. As a non watch maker and not even really a collector but as a mechanical engineer; some comments which may or may not be of any use. Have you ever considered using plastic tweezers , as use in electonics, to avoid scratching? And then ......in the video on the restoration of a very rusty movement it seemed (on video anyway) that there was some corrosion pitting or residue on the periphery of the mainspring (although not very likely with stainless steel, unless in marine environment.) which would promote fatigue failure, a mainspring having reasonably high cyclic stress amplitudes. But as said......much appreciated . (And......... are you too fat?)
Hello Frits, thanks for watching and for your comment! Yes, I'm a bit too fat 😂 We sometimes use plastic tweezers, but for general use plastic tweezers are not suitable. Making a plastic tweezer with the thin tips needed for handling tiny parts simply isn't possible, they would not be stiff enough. There was rust everywhere in that watch, but the mainspring looked okay. It's not a watch we would ever sell in any case, it was more of a fun challenge to see what's possible.
@@VintageWatchServices Oh dear, such a quick reply, now what? Last night another idea (o,k. not always the best. ....) but coating the tips with a thin coat of slow setting epoxy with maybe slight roughening with 400 grit or so. * It won't crumble, desintegrate or flake and leave debris at the crime scene. Your objectives were clearly and consistently outlined for fixing the rust bucket right at the start: : simply to get the old dearie up and running again without resorting to hip joint replacements. So there is no issue with your thinking or workmanship ...beyond any reproach as far as I am concerned. As for the unfortunate closing remark , instead of swimming in a fjord in midwinter you can now run up and down an Alp between the edelweiss and the purple cows. Here in Nl , where the bicycles grow on trees, pedalling should do it : it also takes away avoirdupois (mine)....Best wishes of course............F
Wonderful movement to work on, so simple,reliable and Well machined, for sure one of my favorites 😃👍🏻and btw your picture quality are so Sharp that i started to doubht if i needed the glasses i have weared for years 🧐👍🏻
Hello Aaron, thanks for watching! The link to the video discussing beat error and timing is linked to just a few seconds later, it's the Hebdomas video.
Thanks for creating and sharing another great video, Stian! If you're looking for video ideas (and you haven't already done one), would you please consider doing something with a power meter? That's my favorite complication. Thanks again!!
Hi Woody, thanks so much for that! I'm basically running through watches I'm planning to put up for sale so there's certainly no shortage of them! I will have a power reserve one at some point but right now I actually don't have any in the pipeline 🤔 Hmm, we'll have to do something about that!
Another great restoration Stian of a beautiful timepiece. Simple, yet elegant. Turned out great and love the strap on it. Compliments well. Kudos to you...
Another beautiful video, Stian. The tight editing and merging of the different camera angles during the re-assembly sequence is particularly good. Was the setting lever spring design intended to help prevent the yoke from jumping out of its slot on the stem?
Thanks a lot, Bullnose! I'm trying to up my game a bit on the editing :) Tissot used that setting lever spring design in a few other movement,s so I wouldn't be certain of whether it was intended for this type of case/dial design, but it certainly would help keep the yoke and setting lever in place.
I really liked your precision work. I am one of your subscribers. Can you repair a Tissot seamaster seven watch of my father to bring it back to life for him. 👍🏻💐
Thanks for being a subscriber! Can you send some photos of the watch with all the information you have about it to me at stian@vintagewatchservices.eu, then I'll see what I can do?
Takker, Henrique! Whenever I come across an instruction like "Use tool x" I always Google it to see what it is if I don't already know it. For this one, a simple search told me that this watch had this quite uncommon way of opening.
Tissot is great quality and value! I did a Tissot in my latest youtube project but I had an older one without inca block, "closed" balance jewel, that was a little bit tricky =). Crazy that 18k World timer. Nice work, thank you!
About tools, can you show the magnification lenses you are using to see these small details etc. I’m a model train lover and soldering the small prints is difficult under a loupe so that is why I want to know what you are using.
Thanks for the video, it's great. Following your video, I just serviced one of my exact same Tissots. But I found a problem, when I adjust the time counterclockwise, the second hand will also turn counterclockwise.Is it possible to get some information from you. Thank you.
You mean when you move the hands counter clockwise with the crown? That is not uncommon and not really an issue, but you're in general better off not moving the hands counter clockwise too much.
I recently acquired what I think is a mid 60's Tissot Visodate Seastar from Ebay. The watch is running and keeping decent time, but the crystal and steel case has some moderate scratching. I took it to one shop today just to see if the movement was correct and to ask about a refurbishment, and the owner said if the watch is running I should leave it alone. I'm the type of person that intends to keep the watch for a long time and I would like to make sure it's running properly. I got the watch for very cheap (under $100) and I wouldn't mind spending more money to have peace of mind to know that the internals are correct and they are in good order. If I may ask, what should I expect to pay for a full service like the one in this video for my watch? Are you in the US and do you accept work through the mail? Thanks for your time.
Hi, thanks for watching! I'm based in Switzerland and don't really take on servicing jobs other than on watches I have bought in order to re-sell. But if you're in the US, you should be able to find a watchmaker who can service your watch for $150-200. Google vintage watches in your region and it should be easy to find someone :)
Hello Peter, you would have to first do a lot of googling to make sure you know which crown is correct and then try to find one on eBay or the likes. For the most voluminous brands you can sometimes look up the reference number and corresponding crown on sites like cousinsuk.com or ofrei.com
Wish could do a eta powermatic 80 chronometer as mine was a tissot that I let my 80 year old dad wear and ran no joke, 0.1sec plus per day. Well he dropped it-had to as the main staff of balance wheel just came out! It's a free float balance so can't swap it out with a regular 2824 chronometer or grade 3 balance, but maybe it's just the bottom incabloc spring has detached? I've not taken it apart as all I've done is swap a Seiko 7s26 for 4r36..
Hello Bea, thanks for watching and for your question! There are a lot of options, the most basic one being a jar with a cleaning fluid such as naphtha or benzine. A small ultrasonic is also a good option. What you can do if you have an ultrasonic machine is to fill its tank with water and then put the parts in a jar with cleaning fluid inside the tank, so you don't have to use as much fluid every time. Lastly, you might also find a used cleaning machine for a few hundred on eBay or the like. My first machine cost me €500 from eBay, it was new but old style, made in India.
Hello Mike, loved you in Shrek! 😂 Pegwood should be strong and not shred easily, and is often made from orangewood. It can however be other sorts of wood with the same characteristics. Orangwood is also used for cuticle work by manicurists, which is why you can find it very cheaply on ebay :)
That's correct, the timekeeping will vary a little bit in most watches depending on the angle it is in. Dial up and dial down should be pretty much identical, but when the watch is in a vertical angle, it will typically run a few seconds per day differently. Also, as the mainspring runs down, the watch will also run differently, typically a bit slower in a properly adjusted watch. So the timegrapher is more of a snapshot than a true measure of exactly how the watch runs. You would need timegrapher outputs in different positions and after 24 hours to get a good picture of how a watch runs, accompanied by a power reserve test.
I was helping a watchmaker move to a new building once; he refused using a truck and had us place all of his crates, desks and a majority of his file cabinets on his shoulders and sprinted several miles, only breaking a single sweat when he sat the final cabinet in its last location.
@@VintageWatchServices When the watch was disassembled, you had to remove the dial in order to get to the spring release to remove the stem. During reassembly, however, you put in the stem and installed the dial and hands as per normal procedure. How then did you get the stem out again so you could get the movement into the case?
@@bullnose01 Oh, the movement has a standard way of releasing the stem by pressing the setting lever. I didn't show that since I thought it would be obvious, but maybe it indeed isn't 😂
@@VintageWatchServices Now I am not following anymore. I am very curious how you can press the setting lever when the dial and hand are still on. Can you reach is from the side of the gear train?
I have the same watch, I gave it to a watch repair technician because it fell on the ground, hope it can be repaired. Are there any replacement parts for this watch movement?
@Vintage Watch Services Thank you for your reply, my Tissot watch is still under repair, but with your reply, I have great confidence in the restoration of the watch🤭🤗😉
🤔 I didn't think so but watching the video it certainly looks like it. Good catch! I'm on my phone now so I can't see it too well but will check on my laptop later to make sure 👍
@@VintageWatchServices Yes I knew it :) Cause I have done the same except at that time I didn't know these pivots are not to be oiled. Servicing watches is my main job. At the start I only have moebius 8000 and an old oil that I hope it was thick enough to substitute D5. When I discovered that the swiss says never oil pallet fork's pivot, it became something I always keep in mind. Personally I oil the gear chain before putting on the pallet and its bridge, that way I can easily notice the jewel that doesn't have a pivot stick through it yet, therefore avoid the mistake. Also that way I can test the gear chain before and after it gets oiled, I like to give it some wind and listen to how it sounds, even a clean but dry gear chain will sound different to an oiled one :)
There are many ways to skin a cat :) I was told it's better not to oil the pivots before the pallet fork is in place since the fast spinning of the wheels can make the oil be thrown off. There will always be different ways of doing these kinds of things and over time one forms new habits, that's part of what makes this so rewarding! It's btw not disastrous to oil the pallet pivots, Seiko even advises that they should be oiled in their tech communications, but the vast majority of makers of course don't. And I didn't intend to 😂
Not really much of a difference apart from the thickness. It's not a good idea to use toothpicks since they are likely to break off at the tip and potentially clog the holes m
For many people who were around in 1980s, Tissot will be best known for their Rock Watch. They ran huge advertising campaigns all over Europe, probably the Americas too.
Hello, your films were inspired by my daughter and we started to record some of my work, I also work with watches :) my daughter makes films and we even have 60 subscribers ;) ! I wish you the best ! Regards Karol
Another great video!! do you work on Seiko watches, specifically the BellMatic? I ask as i am about to service one and it will be the most complicated watch I have tacked to date!! Great work as always!!
Talking about tweezers, two years ago i’ve made my own brass tweezers. I really started to realize how much technology went into making them. So for every watchmaker with some time extra......make your own.
Those big Elma automatic machines are for people who clean a lot of watches, as you can load it with several baskets and it will clean them one at a time.
I enjoy your videos tremendously, but I would like to see your trouble shooting process during take-down. I learn a great deal from experienced horologist and value all techniques; those I can incorporate into my own work I do so with confidence that the process produces the anticipated outcome.
Hello Edward, thanks for watching and for your comment! I'm trying to strike a balance between being technical and entertaining, and it's very difficult to reach both goals without going too far in one direction. That said, I do try to point out the most important elements of fault finding but can also try to go a bit more into depth when a good opportunity arises. The good thing about mechanical watches is that everything happens for a reason, and you can always revert to a point where things work and slowly build up to where they don't to identify the problem. There are also a lot of issues you don't really fix per se, you simply replace the part. I'm working on a video that will demonstrate a lot of these issues right now but the watch might even be too damaged to successfully repair... That happens also; there is a point when the repair requires more resources than the outcome is worth. Not sure if this helps but keep watching videos and asking questions and I'll try to give useful answers.
Hi, I just discovered your channel through this video and I really liked how you work, the so relaxed video is so pleasant. I have one question. Since I'm now starting to get more and more watch influence from my interest on watch restorations and the movement mecanism itself, still I don't know the function of many pieces and wheels on the movement. And so what I'm wondering is what the function of the balance wheel is for? Or which is its function? Also how the pellet fork moves?
Thank you so much! It's a great hobby to discover and nowadays there are so many good resources out there for learning. In mechanical watches, the power is provided by a mainspring, which you coil up/wind by the crown or the automatic works if there is one. However, this spring would immediately uncoil if there wasn't anything to hold it back. What holds it back is the escapement, which encompasses the escape wheel, the pallet fork and the balance wheel. The escapement does two things: it allows the mainspring to wind down in a controlled fashion and it does so in a repetitive and consistent timeframe. The balance wheel rotates first to one side and then the next, and when doing so it moves the pallet fork from side to side. The pallet unlocks a tooth on the escape wheel, which then can rotate and thus let the mainspring wind down through the train of wheels. It's very difficult to envision this by words only, so I'd suggest you look up some videos on this, for instance this one: ruclips.net/video/J0L-IRjFhpU/видео.html
@@VintageWatchServices Hello Master, I am about to buy an Omega Constellation from 1957 with a cal.502 or a Breitling Chronomat from the 90s or early 2000s. I'm new into this Hobby, as you may know, so I would like to ask you for these two watches. In terms of quality of the movement, which one would you say is better and why? Also, in general terms, which one would you recommend me to buy? I already have one constellation from my great grandfather but this is just for special occasions. Therefore, if I buy another constellation, this new one would be used as an "everyday watch". The same will be applied with the Breitling. Thank you very much. I hope you can answer me because I am very indecisive.
Hello Joo, my tweezers are from Regine Horology and I got them from Becotechnic, but Horotec makes some quite similar only with a bend instead of a curve.
Yeah, it's almost flawless. There is a tiny scratch above the 12 o'clock marker, but that's pretty much it. And these ones aren't expensive either, Tissot offer some of the best value for money around :)
Interesting video. I don’t know anything about watches. What the “Jewels” used for?
Thanks for watching, Tom! There are a lot of small wheels and pinions inside a watch, and to reduce friction as much as possible, they rotate inside synthetic ruby bearings. A basic good watch has 17 jewels or more. Today most watches are automatic and typically have about 25 jewels. These are all synthetic and not worth more than a few dollars, but the number of jewels still serves as an indication of the quality of the movement.
i love watching skilled masters doing a watch rebuild . it must be so fun to be able to bring great watches back to life.
i have a few tissots and are my most loved watches
Lovely Stian .. such a simple classic watch 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
That’s my idea of a beautiful watch. Love your videos. Just the right mix of history, technical, and other information on a foundation of deep knowledge and great skills.
Thanks so much, Lynn!
My son wears his Grandfather’s Seastar, perfect time and greatly admired. Love your video’s, thank you . 👏
Thanks so much Wendy, that's great to hear :) Vintage Tissots are very nice watches with great value for money and it's really cool to hear an old watch turning into a family heirloom 👍
@@VintageWatchServices in the same vein, my grandpa's piepan constellation is my prized possession. It will go to my elder son after me.
@@VintageWatchServices : i have a steel seastar and i love the one piece ( waterproof ) case and the classic design of the silver dial and plain stick hands . i think its around 1968 date from what i saw on the internet
*A beautiful job for a beautiful watch. I proudly own and wear two Tissot automatic dress watches.*
They're great watches, Joe. Very good value for money and they'll last a lifetime 👍
I love your sense of humor!
Thanks a lot Dan, and that only proves you have a really bad sense of humor 😁
Great job Stian, the finished watch looks very good. I'm starting to like these vintage Tissot's more and more, they get the design elements and simplicity right so often
Totally agree, Alan, they are very clean and simple designs and great value for money!
Love the old man stepoe
Ass mas jam tu dijuwal mas
What a beautiful watch !!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much. I've got a Tissot Sea Star 7, and I was scratching my head about how to open it and what "use key No 315T" meant. I can now get on with the refurbishment.
That's great to hear, Jim! Happy to be of help :)
i also have a seastar 7 with the same tool number on the back , along with a freighter logo . merchant sailors watch ?
They actually made a set of "keys" which would go around the crystal and allowed it to be easily removed without the risk of scratches or breakage. One guy on the watchrepairtalk forum who was trying to open a Sea Star Seven "UFO" had to 3d print his own tool. Of course nowadays they would only sell tools like that to dealers with how exclusive the Swatch Group has become.
Knowledge, steady hand, a littlebit (more) love, here is the key for resuscitation of an old beautiful watch as this Tissot. Well done !
Keep it ON my friend !
RESPECT !!
Thanks Sorin, that's very nice to hear ☺️ More to come, so stay tuned :)
You did a great job and emphasised the point of "do not assume all monocoque cased watches use a split stem."
I think all Tissot Seven watches were front loaders which explains why many of them haven't been serviced because of the wording on the case, Use key 315 which is a tool to grip the crystal. I've seen a few of these watches with deep gouges on the back of the case where someone has attempted to lever off the non removable back.
Many thanks for a superb presentation.
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
It's amazing something so small performs so well
Hello R B, thanks for watching! That's the fascinating thing with mechanical watches, that a few wheels and pinions driven by a couple of springs can be accurate to 99.99% or better, even after 50 or more years :)
Very classy watch.Your humor is sublime.
Thank you kindly!
I suppose I need to look for a mechanical Tissor (to go with the quartz one that I picked up 15 years ago to be married in). This was a great instructional video and I like that it required minimal case work to look beautiful. It's the size and style of watch that I like. Thanks for sharing!
Vintage Tissots offer great value for money 👍
Nice. Very sharp and clear video.
Thanks Ronald! Trying to improve it and will go one step further in the next video 😉
I have a Tissot Sea Star Seven I have just had serviced, it's a lovley watch, It too needed that special tool to take the glass out
Cool! The Sea Star Seven is a beauty as well, congrats on it :)
I'm always shopping for a Tissot. This one is beautiful.
I agree with your humorous social commentary!
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it! 😊
Thank you for another wonderful video. And now we also know why there are so many many hairs stopping all kind of watch movements all over the world ...
My father made it a habit of presenting his grandkids with a watch of their own choice on their 20th birthday. So I went shopping for one with my daughter and she chose a rose gold Tissot World Time (a vintage model from the 60s or so). While I did not like the name too much, the watch really is a gorgeous and most beautiful piece of Swiss watch-making history and she has cherished it ever since.
My first encounter with Tissot came in 1976: my parents bought me my first automatic watch, a PR-516 diver's watch. It served me for a long time until I wanted more complications. I still own this watch (in excellent condition) and only recently found out that it is a "James Bond" watch, as Roger Moore prominently wears one at the end of "Live and Let Die". It has made me feel 10cm taller since I can brag about it to my son and friends, which is not something I ever expected from a Tissot.
Wow, that's a fantastic gift for your daughter! The Tissot world time is a magnificent piece indeed, very stylish.
Interesting info about the James Bond Tissot, I didn't know that :)
Such an intriguing video! Thank you for making this
Great video. I still learn from watching them!! Thank you for posting!
Great workmanship & a stunning watch.
I have one of these movements apart on my bench but out of a 70's Seastar with a screw on back. Fingers crossed i can get it back together.
Best of luck!
Great restoration! Definitely appreciate your work! Look forward to future videos!
Cheers!
Thank you very much, Angel! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Appreciate the brand info/history voice over.
😁👍
Very nice Video and the timepiece is an absolute gem! Great job.
That is a stunning little timepiece.
Another interesting upload. I wonder what percentage of people are caught out by the way the mov't is accessed & removed?
I was glad to hear you speak positively about Certina.
I have a DS Podium and a DS PH200M. The latter is probably my favourite piece, and the brand in general taught me a good lesson in the law of diminishing returns.
And Tissot? Interestingly, I have the stainless steel version of that Tissot Heritage Navigator in my sights for 2022. It's a beautiful watch; a large watch, but I have a large wrist.
Thank-you for an entertaining little interlude. I laughed out loud a few times, learned more about how much I still have to learn and had some watch purchases - past and future - validated!
That's 20 mins well spent! 👍🏼
Thanks, Anthony, that's very cool to hear :) Before the quartz revolution, there were so many brands making their own watches and movements. The loss of variety since the 1970's is just very sad, but it's also what happens in any industry over time.
Vintage Certinas and Tissots are very good watches that offer pretty much unparalleled value for money. I don't think you can go wrong with those two brands in that sense and there are also others that I will work on in the future! 😉
That was well presented history of Tissot. Just enough to inform but not distract. Nice video.✌️
Thanks for that, very nice to hear!
It’s beautiful
The perfect end to my week. It's a pity that watchmakers are all such hulking, and may I say, self-deprecating lot. They have decided to pit their brawn and brain against the tiniest of foes showing their true restraint as if their true powers were released the world would not know what to do with them. The heroes we didn't know we needed. Have a great week, sir.
That's probably the most accurate description of the never ending battle between watchmakers and watch parts I've ever read. You sir, just won the internet. 🥳
Nice watch and nice job.
Thanks a lot! More to come, so stay tuned :)
1960s dress watches are so tasteful, elegant and beautiful.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Stian, I appreciate your prompt reply to each and every person who has sent you a message after watching your video. You are a very humble person and I am sure you will definitely reach the pinnacle of success in the not too distant future. God bless.
Hello K, thanks so much for that! If I'm at my computer I get notifications for comments and try to respond right away. It's not all due to me being such a nice guy, it's also because the RUclips algorithm uses the number of comments to determine how it should recommend a video 😂
That said, I do think it's a matter of politeness to respond to my viewers and of course to answer any questions that come my way as best I can. Maybe if/when I have 10x more viewers I won't be able to do respond to all comments any longer but as long as it is manageable I'm certainly committed to doing so!
That is a beautiful watch
Thanks Rebecca! It's a very classy looking watch indeed, and these old Tissot's are very good value also :)
My first new Swiss watch I bought was a Tissot Ballade two-tone with a 2824 in St. Thomas, USVI. I was 17. The second was a year later from an online retailer, a Bond Omega Seamaster like that worn by Brosnan in his second movie onward. That was 21 years ago; I’ve bought vintage ever since.
Nice video, love tissot vintage watches very much. Thanks for showing!
Thanks Cristobal! Vintage Tissots are fabulous value for money and some very sharp looking watches 👌
You do very meticulous work my friend 👍👌
Thanks Paul, I try :)
Great job, that's how it has to be done correctly! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and for your nice comment!
very interesting and very professional i really enjoyed
Thanks for that! Another video coming in a couple of hours 😉
Another beauty 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
I’m not sure if it’s this calibre specifically but a derivative of it has a stem with a bevel in the setting lever slot that when pulled hard enough, by design it will lift the setting lever to remove the stem. Like you, I prefer to do it the same way as you 👍🏻
Ah ...you run a better repair site: appealing as it is not only technical but gets a good boost by your commentary which gives it an interesting extra. Much appreciated . I gave my 1968 Seastar 7 to my son not long ago and it is nice to see hoe much he likes it and appreciates it. Your approach has some valuable extras .....like demagnetization as standard procedure. ( If you don't start at the beginning , you won't get anywhere ...Jiddhu Krisnamurthi ) Cleaning pivots with Pegwood makes excellent sense. As a non watch maker and not even really a collector but as a mechanical engineer; some comments which may or may not be of any use. Have you ever considered using plastic tweezers , as use in electonics, to avoid scratching? And then ......in the video on the restoration of a very rusty movement it seemed (on video anyway) that there was some corrosion pitting or residue on the periphery of the mainspring (although not very likely with stainless steel, unless in marine environment.) which would promote fatigue failure, a mainspring having reasonably high cyclic stress amplitudes. But as said......much appreciated . (And......... are you too fat?)
Hello Frits, thanks for watching and for your comment! Yes, I'm a bit too fat 😂
We sometimes use plastic tweezers, but for general use plastic tweezers are not suitable. Making a plastic tweezer with the thin tips needed for handling tiny parts simply isn't possible, they would not be stiff enough.
There was rust everywhere in that watch, but the mainspring looked okay. It's not a watch we would ever sell in any case, it was more of a fun challenge to see what's possible.
@@VintageWatchServices Oh dear, such a quick reply, now what? Last night another idea (o,k. not always the best. ....) but coating the tips with a thin coat of slow setting epoxy with maybe slight roughening with 400 grit or so. * It won't crumble, desintegrate or flake and leave debris at the crime scene. Your objectives were clearly and consistently outlined for fixing the rust bucket right at the start: : simply to get the old dearie up and running again without resorting to hip joint replacements. So there is no issue with your thinking or workmanship ...beyond any reproach as far as I am concerned. As for the unfortunate closing remark , instead of swimming in a fjord in midwinter you can now run up and down an Alp between the edelweiss and the purple cows. Here in Nl , where the bicycles grow on trees, pedalling should do it : it also takes away avoirdupois (mine)....Best wishes of course............F
P.S. oh yes forgot* meant suggestion /experiment only
Wonderful movement to work on, so simple,reliable and Well machined, for sure one of my favorites 😃👍🏻and btw your picture quality are so Sharp that i started to doubht if i needed the glasses i have weared for years 🧐👍🏻
Thanks for watching and for your kind words! Tissot made a lot of very nice watches and excellent movements 👍
As always, great to see you again, and with another vintage classic!
Keep it coming.
Thanks so much Randy! They'll be coming regularly 👍
At 12:35 you mentioned another video where you discuss adjusting the time/beat. What video is that? Thanks.
Hello Aaron, thanks for watching! The link to the video discussing beat error and timing is linked to just a few seconds later, it's the Hebdomas video.
Great video
Thanks for watching, Greg !
Nice looking watch
Thanks Gwyn! It's indeed a real beauty of a dress watch, they don't make them like this anymore :)
very nice looking classic
Sure is! 😊 Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Thanks for creating and sharing another great video, Stian! If you're looking for video ideas (and you haven't already done one), would you please consider doing something with a power meter? That's my favorite complication. Thanks again!!
Hi Woody, thanks so much for that! I'm basically running through watches I'm planning to put up for sale so there's certainly no shortage of them! I will have a power reserve one at some point but right now I actually don't have any in the pipeline
🤔 Hmm, we'll have to do something about that!
Quite handsome.
Another great restoration Stian of a beautiful timepiece. Simple, yet elegant. Turned out great and love the strap on it. Compliments well.
Kudos to you...
Beautiful watch. Great job. Thanks.
Thanks, Pablo! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Another beautiful video, Stian. The tight editing and merging of the different camera angles during the re-assembly sequence is particularly good. Was the setting lever spring design intended to help prevent the yoke from jumping out of its slot on the stem?
Thanks a lot, Bullnose! I'm trying to up my game a bit on the editing :)
Tissot used that setting lever spring design in a few other movement,s so I wouldn't be certain of whether it was intended for this type of case/dial design, but it certainly would help keep the yoke and setting lever in place.
Ha...I saw you loose that click spring at 8:30 mark. Did you actually find it or just grab a new one from a drawer?
Hmmm... not sure what you mean, I don't think I pinged it? And I certainly don't have a drawer of these springs :)
I really liked your precision work. I am one of your subscribers. Can you repair a Tissot seamaster seven watch of my father to bring it back to life for him. 👍🏻💐
Thanks for being a subscriber! Can you send some photos of the watch with all the information you have about it to me at stian@vintagewatchservices.eu, then I'll see what I can do?
Superb close-up photography! A very enjoyable video, thank you.
Thanks, Michael! More to come :)
Hi new subscriber, I love all the close up getting.
Hello Carol, that's great to hear! Always nice to see ladies in the comments, these types of videos can get very male dominated :)
When did plastic spacer rings first come into use generally
In the 1970s and as you might suspect, spearheaded by the Japanese :)
wow brother you have a steady hand
Thanks for watching! It's called video editing 😁
Surprised that it wasnt a spilt stem! You got this info by searching for Tissots case model? Bra jobba!!!
Takker, Henrique! Whenever I come across an instruction like "Use tool x" I always Google it to see what it is if I don't already know it. For this one, a simple search told me that this watch had this quite uncommon way of opening.
Tissot is great quality and value! I did a Tissot in my latest youtube project but I had an older one without inca block, "closed" balance jewel, that was a little bit tricky =). Crazy that 18k World timer. Nice work, thank you!
Thanks! Great video on the Tissot anti magnetic :)
@@VintageWatchServices ohh thank you very much! Did some rookie mistaces on it but hopefully it looked ok :) have a good evening!
About tools, can you show the magnification lenses you are using to see these small details etc. I’m a model train lover and soldering the small prints is difficult under a loupe so that is why I want to know what you are using.
Thanks for the video, it's great. Following your video, I just serviced one of my exact same Tissots. But I found a problem, when I adjust the time counterclockwise, the second hand will also turn counterclockwise.Is it possible to get some information from you. Thank you.
You mean when you move the hands counter clockwise with the crown? That is not uncommon and not really an issue, but you're in general better off not moving the hands counter clockwise too much.
Some very nice and surprising Tissot! And a a great weekend with your video ! Nice info ! Thx
Thanks for watching, Tiberiu! Enjoy your weekend :)
@@VintageWatchServices Same, Thank you!
Mesmerizing as usual.....
Thanks Dave 😊
I recently acquired what I think is a mid 60's Tissot Visodate Seastar from Ebay. The watch is running and keeping decent time, but the crystal and steel case has some moderate scratching. I took it to one shop today just to see if the movement was correct and to ask about a refurbishment, and the owner said if the watch is running I should leave it alone. I'm the type of person that intends to keep the watch for a long time and I would like to make sure it's running properly. I got the watch for very cheap (under $100) and I wouldn't mind spending more money to have peace of mind to know that the internals are correct and they are in good order. If I may ask, what should I expect to pay for a full service like the one in this video for my watch? Are you in the US and do you accept work through the mail? Thanks for your time.
Hi, thanks for watching! I'm based in Switzerland and don't really take on servicing jobs other than on watches I have bought in order to re-sell. But if you're in the US, you should be able to find a watchmaker who can service your watch for $150-200. Google vintage watches in your region and it should be easy to find someone :)
@@VintageWatchServices That's great news. Exactly the range I was hoping to be in. Best, John R Pensacola FL
Hi. I have just put one on eBay now it’s in full working order and comes with it’s case. Pop bye and have a look. Thanks
Are you using that new camera I said I didn’t care about? Well … it looks really good and I do seem to care about it! Thanks.
Yes I am, Angelino :) I have one more coming up soon and after that it's down to camera and editing skills 😬
where can you find a crown replacement for the exact watch? thanks!
Hello Peter, you would have to first do a lot of googling to make sure you know which crown is correct and then try to find one on eBay or the likes. For the most voluminous brands you can sometimes look up the reference number and corresponding crown on sites like cousinsuk.com or ofrei.com
Wish could do a eta powermatic 80 chronometer as mine was a tissot that I let my 80 year old dad wear and ran no joke, 0.1sec plus per day. Well he dropped it-had to as the main staff of balance wheel just came out! It's a free float balance so can't swap it out with a regular 2824 chronometer or grade 3 balance, but maybe it's just the bottom incabloc spring has detached? I've not taken it apart as all I've done is swap a Seiko 7s26 for 4r36..
How do you clean the small parts? Can I use an ultrasonic cleaner in place of that industrial machine that you used?
Hello Bea, thanks for watching and for your question! There are a lot of options, the most basic one being a jar with a cleaning fluid such as naphtha or benzine. A small ultrasonic is also a good option. What you can do if you have an ultrasonic machine is to fill its tank with water and then put the parts in a jar with cleaning fluid inside the tank, so you don't have to use as much fluid every time.
Lastly, you might also find a used cleaning machine for a few hundred on eBay or the like. My first machine cost me €500 from eBay, it was new but old style, made in India.
Really Gorgeous….
Thank you, Javier! 😊
really beautiful watch 👍👍
Thanks Bojidar! It's a beauty indeed and these watches are even very affordable. Tissot offers great value for the money 👍
What is that you have in the pin vice you're using to clean the pivots?
It's a product called EVE Flex. I mostly use the finest grade.
Strap !! ❤️❤️❤️
😁
Great video
Thanks Ricky!
Is the peg wood a specific type of wood?
Hello Mike, loved you in Shrek! 😂
Pegwood should be strong and not shred easily, and is often made from orangewood. It can however be other sorts of wood with the same characteristics. Orangwood is also used for cuticle work by manicurists, which is why you can find it very cheaply on ebay :)
Great post and lovely old watch. How comparable, in general, is the accuracy on a timegrapher to on the wrist?
I tend to notice that the accuracy changes with the angle. And it will probably be relevant based on the position your wrist usually is.
That's correct, the timekeeping will vary a little bit in most watches depending on the angle it is in. Dial up and dial down should be pretty much identical, but when the watch is in a vertical angle, it will typically run a few seconds per day differently. Also, as the mainspring runs down, the watch will also run differently, typically a bit slower in a properly adjusted watch.
So the timegrapher is more of a snapshot than a true measure of exactly how the watch runs. You would need timegrapher outputs in different positions and after 24 hours to get a good picture of how a watch runs, accompanied by a power reserve test.
I was helping a watchmaker move to a new building once; he refused using a truck and had us place all of his crates, desks and a majority of his file cabinets on his shoulders and sprinted several miles, only breaking a single sweat when he sat the final cabinet in its last location.
I hope you got something more than the exercise in return! 😂
OK, Houdini, how did you get the movement back in the case without removing the hands and dial so you could take out the stem?
Mmm.. not really following you?
@@VintageWatchServices When the watch was disassembled, you had to remove the dial in order to get to the spring release to remove the stem. During reassembly, however, you put in the stem and installed the dial and hands as per normal procedure. How then did you get the stem out again so you could get the movement into the case?
@@bullnose01 Oh, the movement has a standard way of releasing the stem by pressing the setting lever. I didn't show that since I thought it would be obvious, but maybe it indeed isn't 😂
@@VintageWatchServices My bad. Sometimes the obvious is too obvious. Be safe. 😀
@@VintageWatchServices Now I am not following anymore. I am very curious how you can press the setting lever when the dial and hand are still on. Can you reach is from the side of the gear train?
I have the same watch, I gave it to a watch repair technician because it fell on the ground, hope it can be repaired.
Are there any replacement parts for this watch movement?
You can find replacement parts for sure, but it might require some searching on eBay and specialized spare parts sites
@Vintage Watch Services Thank you for your reply, my Tissot watch is still under repair, but with your reply, I have great confidence in the restoration of the watch🤭🤗😉
12:02 did you accidently oil the pallet's pivot?
🤔 I didn't think so but watching the video it certainly looks like it. Good catch! I'm on my phone now so I can't see it too well but will check on my laptop later to make sure 👍
I just double-checked on my laptop and yes, I did certainly oil the pallet fork pivot 😂 Well spotted and I'll try to avoid that going forward 😁
@@VintageWatchServices Yes I knew it :) Cause I have done the same except at that time I didn't know these pivots are not to be oiled. Servicing watches is my main job. At the start I only have moebius 8000 and an old oil that I hope it was thick enough to substitute D5. When I discovered that the swiss says never oil pallet fork's pivot, it became something I always keep in mind. Personally I oil the gear chain before putting on the pallet and its bridge, that way I can easily notice the jewel that doesn't have a pivot stick through it yet, therefore avoid the mistake. Also that way I can test the gear chain before and after it gets oiled, I like to give it some wind and listen to how it sounds, even a clean but dry gear chain will sound different to an oiled one :)
There are many ways to skin a cat :) I was told it's better not to oil the pivots before the pallet fork is in place since the fast spinning of the wheels can make the oil be thrown off. There will always be different ways of doing these kinds of things and over time one forms new habits, that's part of what makes this so rewarding!
It's btw not disastrous to oil the pallet pivots, Seiko even advises that they should be oiled in their tech communications, but the vast majority of makers of course don't. And I didn't intend to 😂
what type of cleaner do you use on your ultrasonic? and that sign 1 to 9 means 9 bottle of different cleaners or is the same one 9 times?
Hello Carlos, I use the Elma 1:9, but different regions might have different products. The 1 to 9 means 1 part solution to 9 parts water.
Thanks new subscriber brilliant thanks Richard and Ann England
Great to hear and welcome! More to come soon :)
Beautiful watch, how to buy such these vintage watches?
Thanks! All our watches are listed at www.vintagewatchservices.eu
Is there a difference between peg wood and tooth picks or cocktail sticks
Not really much of a difference apart from the thickness. It's not a good idea to use toothpicks since they are likely to break off at the tip and potentially clog the holes m
For many people who were around in 1980s, Tissot will be best known for their Rock Watch. They ran huge advertising campaigns all over Europe, probably the Americas too.
The rock watch was indeed quite popular, but Tissot has a really long history of nice watches :)
Tremendous Tissot, another enjoyable video.
Thanks Clive! More to come, so stay tuned :)
Hello, your films were inspired by my daughter and we started to record some of my work, I also work with watches :) my daughter makes films and we even have 60 subscribers ;) ! I wish you the best !
Regards
Karol
That's great to hear, Karol, and now you have 61! 😁
@@VintageWatchServices thanks ! ! !
@@Karol235 +1
@@Karol235 Gave you a subscribe! Will definitely be watching all your videos!
@@mrscience5412 thanks 😉
Another great video!! do you work on Seiko watches, specifically the BellMatic? I ask as i am about to service one and it will be the most complicated watch I have tacked to date!!
Great work as always!!
Thanks Carl! The Bellmatic is not for the faint hearted indeed :) I have one in the pipeline but it'll be a few weeks until it's up.
Beautifullllllllllllllllllllll watch , thanks for showing.
Thanks for watching 😁
Talking about tweezers, two years ago i’ve made my own brass tweezers. I really started to realize how much technology went into making them. So for every watchmaker with some time extra......make your own.
Those big Elma automatic machines are for people who clean a lot of watches, as you can load it with several baskets and it will clean them one at a time.
If you're doing this on a hobby basis this machine is indeed overkill...
I enjoy your videos tremendously, but I would like to see your trouble shooting process during take-down. I learn a great deal from experienced horologist and value all techniques; those I can incorporate into my own work I do so with confidence that the process produces the anticipated outcome.
Hello Edward, thanks for watching and for your comment! I'm trying to strike a balance between being technical and entertaining, and it's very difficult to reach both goals without going too far in one direction. That said, I do try to point out the most important elements of fault finding but can also try to go a bit more into depth when a good opportunity arises.
The good thing about mechanical watches is that everything happens for a reason, and you can always revert to a point where things work and slowly build up to where they don't to identify the problem. There are also a lot of issues you don't really fix per se, you simply replace the part.
I'm working on a video that will demonstrate a lot of these issues right now but the watch might even be too damaged to successfully repair... That happens also; there is a point when the repair requires more resources than the outcome is worth.
Not sure if this helps but keep watching videos and asking questions and I'll try to give useful answers.
Hi, I just discovered your channel through this video and I really liked how you work, the so relaxed video is so pleasant.
I have one question. Since I'm now starting to get more and more watch influence from my interest on watch restorations and the movement mecanism itself, still I don't know the function of many pieces and wheels on the movement. And so what I'm wondering is what the function of the balance wheel is for? Or which is its function? Also how the pellet fork moves?
Thank you so much! It's a great hobby to discover and nowadays there are so many good resources out there for learning.
In mechanical watches, the power is provided by a mainspring, which you coil up/wind by the crown or the automatic works if there is one. However, this spring would immediately uncoil if there wasn't anything to hold it back. What holds it back is the escapement, which encompasses the escape wheel, the pallet fork and the balance wheel.
The escapement does two things: it allows the mainspring to wind down in a controlled fashion and it does so in a repetitive and consistent timeframe. The balance wheel rotates first to one side and then the next, and when doing so it moves the pallet fork from side to side. The pallet unlocks a tooth on the escape wheel, which then can rotate and thus let the mainspring wind down through the train of wheels.
It's very difficult to envision this by words only, so I'd suggest you look up some videos on this, for instance this one: ruclips.net/video/J0L-IRjFhpU/видео.html
@@VintageWatchServices Thank you a lot! Sure! I will take a look up to the video!
@@VintageWatchServices another thing is where the energy comes from. May be out of friction of the mainspring or whatever?
@@VintageWatchServices Hello Master,
I am about to buy an Omega Constellation from 1957 with a cal.502 or a Breitling Chronomat from the 90s or early 2000s.
I'm new into this Hobby, as you may know, so I would like to ask you for these two watches.
In terms of quality of the movement, which one would you say is better and why?
Also, in general terms, which one would you recommend me to buy? I already have one constellation from my great grandfather but this is just for special occasions. Therefore, if I buy another constellation, this new one would be used as an "everyday watch". The same will be applied with the Breitling.
Thank you very much. I hope you can answer me because I am very indecisive.
What are the curved tweezers that you are using??
Hello Joo, my tweezers are from Regine Horology and I got them from Becotechnic, but Horotec makes some quite similar only with a bend instead of a curve.
@@VintageWatchServices k
⭐️❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️⭐️❤️
😁
Holy cow that’s complicated
These were great looking dress watches that now make a super unisex piece. Video quality as good as ever.
Thanks Red! I'm trying to improve the video quality a bit and have another wave up my sleeve for the next one 😉
@@VintageWatchServices Nice one. Can't get over the condition of the Tissot.
Yeah, it's almost flawless. There is a tiny scratch above the 12 o'clock marker, but that's pretty much it. And these ones aren't expensive either, Tissot offer some of the best value for money around :)
nice🌺🎈
Haha! You got had! That's obviously a no. 315S key!
😲 Darn it, I had a feeling there was something off... 😂
👍
Спасибо, Александр 😁