Pastor Rafferty hit the nail on the head with the translations. God be praised. Please study the word of God using a translation from the received text. Amen.
This is fantastic. Thank you so much. Our church is under such attack over this doctrine. God bless you, you were all called to put on these lectures to "hold the line." Amen. Thank you!
I was watching Pastor Jean what a wonderful job. He did on explaining Daniel I have learned to a lot…. He is such a wonderful pastor and teacher. What a great duo Doug Bachelor and he are.
elder wilson do you know what is going on with a program called adventist peace summitt today and tomorrow. they are promoting the lgbt life style can u not do something about this?
I agree with Pastor Wilson that the correct Bible Study method is of UTMOST importance. The Bible itself tells us how to study it. Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little... (See Isaiah 28:10 KJV) These other methods bring in many contradictions being based many, if not all of them on Jesuit theology whose goal is to bring the Church back to the Mother Church. Our goal as SDAs is to complete the Protestant Reformation with the proclamation of Three Angels' Messages and the Loud Cry. May the Lord help us to get back on track! And by the way, praise God for His greak mercy in giving us MUCH NEEDED counsel through the Prophetic Pen to help us navigate these difficult subjects and times. If we take 2Chronicles 20:20 last part, to heart, we will do well.
Regards Pr Doug on light speed - it is a measure of distance not time. So when someone says 35 B light years away - that is distance not how long it took light to get here to Earth.
i'm 66 yrs old. i remember in the 60's and early 70's when the national news programs would come on, most of us children would be back outside playing after supper in the warmer months and in the colder ones would be doing our homework. many did not want their younger children watching reports of Vietnam or violence or wars from other nations. that was something when they were older they more equipped, i say more, not fully, to deal with. i remember when in the 5th grade the public school system where we lived, started a short program on sex education. my mother mentioned that they did not have that until she was further along in school, and thought that subject was too early at my age. yet living in the country, an abundance of wild life, having pets such as dogs, horses, and cattle across the road, a young child sees that, and having the inquisitive mind that a child does, ask questions. i praise God for having a mother, though she quit school after the 10th grade, she was in many ways, a wise mother, giving just enough information to settle my questions, knowing that more questions would come later and she would have to be more specific then. and today we see have the same situation, too much information thrown out there for young minds to try and comprehend, to make some reasonable sense of. to me, it seems no wonder that many of our, the worlds youth, are becoming so mentally challenged that they become depressed, confused, unable to cope that they commit suicide. they, the children, have so much to deal with such as they all want to be liked and fit in, the need for friendship, what is going to become of me, perhaps struggles at home, being made fun of for whatever reason, there's enough to trouble their minds. now we have children, in places as young as 5-6 years old having to face the subject of who they are gender wise, facing the thoughts, ideas, that if they don't do something drastic the world will cease or be beyond any repair in the prime of their lives. children should and need to be taught from young ages, for God tells us, as parents, that from a young age we are to teach them His words in the morning and at night, so that they may, as well as us older ones, be frontlets to their eyes, and be in their hearts and minds. and still, there was plenty of time for play, enjoyment, fun, to be a child. and with our technology today these things can be thrust into their minds way too soon. we taught our 2 from an age around entering school the truths of holidays such as christmas and easter, that the traditions of them were steeped in false religions and did not celebrate them. where we lacked though, was wisdom. wisdom to make such times still enjoyable instead of a drudgery, and regret. where we failed was not seeking that wisdom thru God and others for help. now my grands are at the ages where my youngest and her husband feel the strong need to inform them of the truths of these times. we had a long talk over the phone, and discussed ideas on how to do that and still make those times enjoyable, fun, without being a boredom, and being within Godly guidelines. and when the appropriate time comes, just as Elder Wilson stated, they may be among 50 people, children to adults, and may hear 50 different opinions, views on a topic, but what matters most of all, most importantly, if what does God say about it.
13:35 Pr. Wilson doesn't tell the truth about the SDA Church's stance on abortion, as the Church definitely does permit the taking of innocent life, exactly what the commandment forbids. His calling for pro-life people to not commit acts of violence is just ridiculous, as no one in the SDA Church is committing acts of violence against abortionists. Would he hem and haw the same on the question of cigarette smoking? Sadly, I cannot believe that someone who supports breaking any of God's commandments is the rightful president of God's remnant church.
I have incountered a Mormon text in some instances. Had I not known my scripture of the king James I wouldn't have caught it. It was completely off tract of subject and misquoted.
Here’s why I use the KJV: in some bibles it says, “in my Father’s house is space. In my Father’s house are rooms.” The KJV says “in my Father’s house are many mansions.” I don’t know about you, but I don’t want space nor a room, I want my mansion and that’s why I use JKV. Furthermore, people who can read Hebrew and English they testify that Isiah in the Dead Sea Scroll 97 percent close to the translation to KJV with the differences being personal pronouns and articles: a, an, and the. Lastly, the Jesuits and the occult members have made it their life’s goals to change what the Bible says. Why should we fall for these changes. Finally, God uses sinners to work out His purposes. It doesn’t matter what the personal sins were or were not of King James. God used him to translate the Bible period. If God waited for humans to become sinless before He uses them for His purpose He’d get nothing done. And, I’d say to Cliff, prove your statement that you said about King James. I say this due to history. They married at 14 and their life ended at 36 and if you lived to be 40 you were old. So from the lens of the 21st Century everyone was a pedophile. So his argument doesn’t hold water. And it’s easy to say X when the person is dead.
30:43 "One sin is no different from another in general when it comes to sin." That is completely unbiblical. Think, Pastor Rafferty, why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?
I would remind Christians everywhere that Satan is the accuser of the brethren Revelation 12:10. Let's not be guilty of doing the work of Satan by accusing individuals in the Church. To show the house of Israel her sins is to be humble and realize that we also are corporately guilty of doing what the Church is doing wrong. Remember that Aaron and Miriam criticized Moses, and that did not turn out well.
"Our position on the Testimonies is like the keystone of the arch, take that out and there is no logical stopping-place till all the special truths of the message are gone.... Nothing is more sure than this, that this message and the visions belong together, and stand or fall together." - MOL 426.1
Can we do the subject on the 2nd death . So many know nothing of this. And when you mention it .your looked at as totally out of your mind..and reading from a different bible.
With all of the manuscripts we’ve found through archaeology, the fact that each translation is interpreted from these manuscripts and knowing that each translation is focused on either word for word or expressing the actual meaning and thoughts points to the fact that we have a myriad of resources at our fingertips. God is the author of reason and light, not confusion. Using the King James Version, which uses old English, is NOT the best way to communicate. That’s like saying English is the best language and everyone needs to learn it, oh and by the way, you have to learn it the way they spoke 500 years ago. Use a few translations that you understand. get one word for word translation and a thought translation… research about how it was translated, get a concordance and a commentary. King James only philosophy can be a turn off for many people!
Concerning the question on different bible versions, imagine partaking in a response reading with the entire congregation using a different version. One word- Confusion!!!
Heavenly Stars, The General conference no longer deals with the KJV as the main Bible to use, Because Jesuits were the leaders for a long time now, remember the changed of the Hymnal back in the 1980s you can check the hymns that now reflect Catholic teaching and doctrine,NO471/403and many more, check out the responses reading in the back of the Hymnal,There are 33from the NKJV/ 69from the NIV/29from the RSV/ 15 from the TEV/ 15 from the KJV/22 from the NEB/3from the NASB/38 from the JERVS This last one is mainly the Catholic bible. Coming into the church in 1968we were told the Jesuits will infiltrate the church not realizing they were already in only striving to become the head. Why did Ted Wilson collected money on the behalf of printing millions of copy of the book The Great Controversy and printed the book (The Great hope) leaving out all the history of the Catholic church?Why did leaders criticize those who gave out the book ( The Great Controversy) when pope Francis visited America is 2015?. The evidence is clear the SDA are led by Jesuits, but Ted Wilson said it's a conspiracy theory that was going around for years,.. They are some who has not denied of they Jesuit teaching and connection. MY PEOPLE ARE LOST FOR THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. HOW LONG WILL THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE GOD'S PEOPLE REMAIN SLEEPING? SABBATH BLESSINGS TO ONE AND ALL.
Everything you stated is true and correct. But most of the church is blind. They disregard and down play SOP and then turn around and try to use her quotes to support Romes agenda of the forced snake bite injections. The General Conference was firing people left and right.The Jesuits are clearly running GC. The currant state of our church is clearly clearly described in Rev 3… church of Laodicea so corrupt it made God nauseous and want to vomit. That’s what I feel listening to these men.
⚠️Only those who have Genuine Saving Faith in Jesus will be saved when He returns! Luke18:8 and James 2:19 🌟Genuine Saving Faith is: One person [you] trusting in another person [Jesus] based on your relationship with that person or [ based on a daily Saving Love❤️Relationship of Prayer, Bible study and witnessing with Jesus!] That being said, do you have Genuine Saving Faith in Him my friends! Heb.11:6
Very interesting 🧐 Christians are supposed to have the faith of Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth, the Life-a living transformation of character, faith moving forward, becoming like the Light of the world. (“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8:12). For instance: Having our own faith is superficial faith, as in, I believe in Santa Clause: making our own proof, is not truth. Santa (a figment of the world’s imagination) has really evolved by commercialism. A changed life is “living proof” called a “testimony” faith which brings wonderful changes into the entire soul, bearing the fruits of the Spirit in living transformation: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22-23). We will be living the law of God by His fruits: obtained by the Spirit of Jesus Christ.” There is absolutely no other way! Jesus speaking, in John 10:1 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that enters not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” Real faith: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Romans 10:17). “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” (John 15:5).
So sweet to see The President of The World SDA Church so gracious. God bless Pastor Ted!
thank you pastor Rafferty for standing up for the KJV Bible. I think it is the most accurate. It is o.k. for comparason to have other versions.
Pastor Rafferty hit the nail on the head with the translations. God be praised. Please study the word of God using a translation from the received text. Amen.
Amen pastor Rafferty....compassion is so important...we are all sinners
This is fantastic. Thank you so much. Our church is under such attack over this doctrine. God bless you, you were all called to put on these lectures to "hold the line." Amen. Thank you!
Let's call on Pr. Wilson to stop supporting abortion.
Many of the answers were supported by inspired words from the Bible and Ellen White's writings.
Most encouraging and clear. A very special message for today. Thank you panel!
I was watching Pastor Jean what a wonderful job. He did on explaining Daniel I have learned to a lot…. He is such a wonderful pastor and teacher. What a great duo Doug Bachelor and he are.
Amen , thank you Granite Bay .!!!
elder wilson do you know what is going on with a program called adventist peace summitt today and tomorrow. they are promoting the lgbt life style can u not do something about this?
I agree with Pastor Wilson that the correct Bible Study method is of UTMOST importance. The Bible itself tells us how to study it. Line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little... (See Isaiah 28:10 KJV) These other methods bring in many contradictions being based many, if not all of them on Jesuit theology whose goal is to bring the Church back to the Mother Church. Our goal as SDAs is to complete the Protestant Reformation with the proclamation of Three Angels' Messages and the Loud Cry. May the Lord help us to get back on track!
And by the way, praise God for His greak mercy in giving us MUCH NEEDED counsel through the Prophetic Pen to help us navigate these difficult subjects and times. If we take 2Chronicles 20:20 last part, to heart, we will do well.
I SO AGREE!
Pray for elder Wilson, it’s not easy to be at his position, prayers absolutely needed
Wonderful series, thank you!
I like Clifford Goldstein but that science explanation has me scratching my head!
Thank you James rise teddy Doug and pastor ross
Great answers loved it ❤️✌️
Regards Pr Doug on light speed - it is a measure of distance not time. So when someone says 35 B light years away - that is distance not how long it took light to get here to Earth.
Good point, Steven.
i'm 66 yrs old. i remember in the 60's and early 70's when the national news programs would come on, most of us children would be back outside playing after supper in the warmer months and in the colder ones would be doing our homework. many did not want their younger children watching reports of Vietnam or violence or wars from other nations. that was something when they were older they more equipped, i say more, not fully, to deal with. i remember when in the 5th grade the public school system where we lived, started a short program on sex education. my mother mentioned that they did not have that until she was further along in school, and thought that subject was too early at my age. yet living in the country, an abundance of wild life, having pets such as dogs, horses, and cattle across the road, a young child sees that, and having the inquisitive mind that a child does, ask questions. i praise God for having a mother, though she quit school after the 10th grade, she was in many ways, a wise mother, giving just enough information to settle my questions, knowing that more questions would come later and she would have to be more specific then. and today we see have the same situation, too much information thrown out there for young minds to try and comprehend, to make some reasonable sense of. to me, it seems no wonder that many of our, the worlds youth, are becoming so mentally challenged that they become depressed, confused, unable to cope that they commit suicide. they, the children, have so much to deal with such as they all want to be liked and fit in, the need for friendship, what is going to become of me, perhaps struggles at home, being made fun of for whatever reason, there's enough to trouble their minds. now we have children, in places as young as 5-6 years old having to face the subject of who they are gender wise, facing the thoughts, ideas, that if they don't do something drastic the world will cease or be beyond any repair in the prime of their lives. children should and need to be taught from young ages, for God tells us, as parents, that from a young age we are to teach them His words in the morning and at night, so that they may, as well as us older ones, be frontlets to their eyes, and be in their hearts and minds. and still, there was plenty of time for play, enjoyment, fun, to be a child. and with our technology today these things can be thrust into their minds way too soon. we taught our 2 from an age around entering school the truths of holidays such as christmas and easter, that the traditions of them were steeped in false religions and did not celebrate them. where we lacked though, was wisdom. wisdom to make such times still enjoyable instead of a drudgery, and regret. where we failed was not seeking that wisdom thru God and others for help. now my grands are at the ages where my youngest and her husband feel the strong need to inform them of the truths of these times. we had a long talk over the phone, and discussed ideas on how to do that and still make those times enjoyable, fun, without being a boredom, and being within Godly guidelines. and when the appropriate time comes, just as Elder Wilson stated, they may be among 50 people, children to adults, and may hear 50 different opinions, views on a topic, but what matters most of all, most importantly, if what does God say about it.
13:35 Pr. Wilson doesn't tell the truth about the SDA Church's stance on abortion, as the Church definitely does permit the taking of innocent life, exactly what the commandment forbids. His calling for pro-life people to not commit acts of violence is just ridiculous, as no one in the SDA Church is committing acts of violence against abortionists.
Would he hem and haw the same on the question of cigarette smoking?
Sadly, I cannot believe that someone who supports breaking any of God's commandments is the rightful president of God's remnant church.
Sadly our ADVENTIST hospitals perform abortions..
This type of discussion is needed throughout Adventistism however the first two answer should be accompany with scriptures aß was pastor Ted's first.
Could we vote James Rafferty for GC president? This is the kind of leadership we need.
I have incountered a Mormon text in some instances. Had I not known my scripture of the king James I wouldn't have caught it. It was completely off tract of subject and misquoted.
Here’s why I use the KJV: in some bibles it says, “in my Father’s house is space. In my Father’s house are rooms.” The KJV says “in my Father’s house are many mansions.” I don’t know about you, but I don’t want space nor a room, I want my mansion and that’s why I use JKV. Furthermore, people who can read Hebrew and English they testify that Isiah in the Dead Sea Scroll 97 percent close to the translation to KJV with the differences being personal pronouns and articles: a, an, and the. Lastly, the Jesuits and the occult members have made it their life’s goals to change what the Bible says. Why should we fall for these changes. Finally, God uses sinners to work out His purposes. It doesn’t matter what the personal sins were or were not of King James. God used him to translate the Bible period. If God waited for humans to become sinless before He uses them for His purpose He’d get nothing done. And, I’d say to Cliff, prove your statement that you said about King James. I say this due to history. They married at 14 and their life ended at 36 and if you lived to be 40 you were old. So from the lens of the 21st Century everyone was a pedophile. So his argument doesn’t hold water. And it’s easy to say X when the person is dead.
a supposed Christian intellectual acting like a malicious D.O.M.
Where is message #4
With Elder Willison ??
All the others from 1 to 7 are on line except #4
I believe part 3 and 4 are together in one video. The #3 video.
30:43 "One sin is no different from another in general when it comes to sin." That is completely unbiblical. Think, Pastor Rafferty, why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?
I would remind Christians everywhere that Satan is the accuser of the brethren Revelation 12:10. Let's not be guilty of doing the work of Satan by accusing individuals in the Church. To show the house of Israel her sins is to be humble and realize that we also are corporately guilty of doing what the Church is doing wrong. Remember that Aaron and Miriam criticized Moses, and that did not turn out well.
Our world is "about six thousand years old." Inspiration says that, why couldn't anyone say that?
Who is inspiration is it some type of spirit
"Our position on the Testimonies is like the keystone of the arch, take that out and there is no logical stopping-place till all the special truths of the message are gone.... Nothing is more sure than this, that this message and the visions belong together, and stand or fall together." - MOL 426.1
Can we do the subject on the 2nd death . So many know nothing of this. And when you mention it .your looked at as totally out of your mind..and reading from a different bible.
2nd death - is after the ressurection.
Bec. Every eye will see during the second coming of Jesus. Read the Book of Revelation
With all of the manuscripts we’ve found through archaeology, the fact that each translation is interpreted from these manuscripts and knowing that each translation is focused on either word for word or expressing the actual meaning and thoughts points to the fact that we have a myriad of resources at our fingertips. God is the author of reason and light, not confusion. Using the King James Version, which uses old English, is NOT the best way to communicate. That’s like saying English is the best language and everyone needs to learn it, oh and by the way, you have to learn it the way they spoke 500 years ago. Use a few translations that you understand. get one word for word translation and a thought translation… research about how it was translated, get a concordance and a commentary. King James only philosophy can be a turn off for many people!
Concerning the question on different bible versions, imagine partaking in a response reading with the entire congregation using a different version. One word- Confusion!!!
Heavenly Stars, The General conference no longer deals with the KJV as the main Bible to use, Because Jesuits were the leaders for a long time now, remember the changed of the Hymnal back in the 1980s you can check the hymns that now reflect Catholic teaching and doctrine,NO471/403and many more, check out the responses reading in the back of the Hymnal,There are 33from the NKJV/ 69from the NIV/29from the RSV/ 15 from the TEV/ 15 from the KJV/22 from the NEB/3from the NASB/38 from the JERVS This last one is mainly the Catholic bible.
Coming into the church in 1968we were told the Jesuits will infiltrate the church not realizing they were already in only striving to become the head.
Why did Ted Wilson collected money on the behalf of printing millions of copy of the book The Great Controversy and printed the book (The Great hope) leaving out all the history of the Catholic church?Why did leaders criticize those who gave out the book ( The Great Controversy) when pope Francis visited America is 2015?.
The evidence is clear the SDA are led by Jesuits, but Ted Wilson said it's a conspiracy theory that was going around for years,.. They are some who has not denied of they Jesuit teaching and connection.
MY PEOPLE ARE LOST FOR THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. HOW LONG WILL THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE GOD'S PEOPLE REMAIN SLEEPING? SABBATH BLESSINGS TO ONE AND ALL.
Everything you stated is true and correct. But most of the church is blind. They disregard and down play SOP and then turn around and try to use her quotes to support Romes agenda of the forced snake bite injections. The General Conference was firing people left and right.The Jesuits are clearly running GC. The currant state of our church is clearly clearly described in Rev 3… church of Laodicea so corrupt it made God nauseous and want to vomit. That’s what I feel listening to these men.
⚠️Only those who have Genuine Saving Faith in Jesus will be saved when He returns! Luke18:8 and James 2:19 🌟Genuine Saving Faith is: One person [you] trusting in another person [Jesus] based on your relationship with that person or [ based on a daily Saving Love❤️Relationship of Prayer, Bible study and witnessing with Jesus!] That being said, do you have Genuine Saving Faith in Him my friends! Heb.11:6
Very interesting 🧐
Christians are supposed to have the faith of Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth, the Life-a living transformation of character, faith moving forward, becoming like the Light of the world. (“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8:12).
For instance: Having our own faith is superficial faith, as in, I believe in Santa Clause: making our own proof, is not truth. Santa (a figment of the world’s imagination) has really evolved by commercialism.
A changed life is “living proof” called a “testimony” faith which brings wonderful changes into the entire soul, bearing the fruits of the Spirit in living transformation: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22-23).
We will be living the law of God by His fruits: obtained by the Spirit of Jesus Christ.” There is absolutely no other way!
Jesus speaking, in John 10:1 “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that enters not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” Real faith: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Romans 10:17).
“I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” (John 15:5).
isnt 6000 years up in 2027 or 31? so the return could be at those times