How to Evaluate Oil Filters

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • How to Evaluate Oil Filters
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    Oil cleanliness is critical to reliable machinery, automobiles, hydraulics and fleet vehicles. It pays to work smart and make good decisions when evaluating and purchasing oil filters. Understanding how filters are tested and rated is key to your decision making process.
    Studies show that when lube oil contaminant levels are low, wear rates and engine life can improve dramatically. High levels of contaminants in oil can impact fuel economy, lubricant life and create environmental issues.
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  • @pinoyeh
    @pinoyeh 12 лет назад +15

    There are a lot of video uploaders who do their own "evaluation" of oil filters who do not consider the aspects as explained here. Their "evaluation" is just merely subjective. This video explains itself.

  • @tefilbo
    @tefilbo 11 лет назад +7

    Thanks. This is great information. The only problem is that most manufacturers do not publish this information so, generally, the consumer has no way of comparing filters.

  • @lancelot1953
    @lancelot1953 10 лет назад +7

    Excellent video - one thing to remember for engine oil filtering is that the clearances between most "rubbing" engine parts (crank bearings, pistons, rod bearings...) are in the order of 2 to 22 microns (25 microns = 0.001 inch). So these parts are susceptible to be damaged by anything that can "squeeze" itself between these clearances i.e. particles smaller than 22 microns. You should have an oil filter that would remove as much of "less than 22 micron" particles as possible taking into account the possibility of the pressure differential increasing so much (filter flow resistance) that the bypass valve opens.
    Thank you for the video - Ciao, L

    • @johnferguson7235
      @johnferguson7235 8 лет назад +1

      +lancelot1953 Filtering out the lager particles that form engine sludge that blocks up oil ports and galleries is also important. Oil starvation caused by obstructed oil flow is what leads to severe engine damage. That is why any filter design is a compromise unless there is multistage filtration.

    • @lancelot1953
      @lancelot1953 8 лет назад +1

      John Ferguson Hi John, I fully agree with you, I was just addressing how "very small" particles damage the engine. Ciao, L

    • @FredFlintstone21
      @FredFlintstone21 6 лет назад

      lancelot1953
      What oil filter are you using? Are you running an oil bypass filtration system? If yes, which one? Franz, fs2500, amsoil, etc

  • @dwaynedaniels739
    @dwaynedaniels739 11 лет назад +3

    I especially liked the end where he explains the tradeoff made in buying a better filter. You can be a "filtration guy" or a "flow rate guy", but usually not both at the same time, unless you are willing to pay A LOT for it. Personally, I'm a flow rate guy. I will sacrifice 5 microns of efficiency for a better flow and a bypass valve that opens only when its really suppose to.

    • @mrbumcraic5046
      @mrbumcraic5046 6 лет назад +1

      Dwayne Daniels
      You can have filtration and flow you just need more filter surface area (longer or wider filters) in most vehicles this is difficult because of space constraints so you could use remotely mounted filters

  • @AaronAaronsohn
    @AaronAaronsohn 12 лет назад +5

    Excellent video; great delivery and informational!

  • @Tailsnpaws
    @Tailsnpaws 9 лет назад +6

    A wealth of good information that was properly explained. Thank you.

  • @HansDelbruck53
    @HansDelbruck53 8 лет назад +15

    He said the oil takes a "torturous" path through the fibers, but he meant tortuous.
    Big difference.
    Fluid flow has nothing to do with torture.
    Unless waterboarding is involved.

  • @MrDragonslayer170
    @MrDragonslayer170 11 лет назад +3

    Best explanation yet, thanks!

  • @goejeni
    @goejeni 11 лет назад +2

    this is a good video as to what to expect with filters. thanks for posting it.

  • @ucallthatatweet
    @ucallthatatweet 10 лет назад +2

    Great info, especially 7:15-7:58!

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 10 лет назад +2

    wow I didn't know we need a deep diploma of comprehension to understand the workings of an oil filter..im never gonna trust any oil filter again after seeing its complexities..thanks..NORIA should make oil filters!!

    • @thevinceberry
      @thevinceberry 8 лет назад +1

      +fidel catsro They do oil analysis training, it is for industrial maintenance program like refinery, manufacturer plants, chemical plants, etc. But the same concept can be apply to cars

  • @DeLorean4
    @DeLorean4 12 лет назад +4

    Great explanation indeed!

  • @JoeJ-8282
    @JoeJ-8282 6 лет назад +3

    Very good info to know, but how are you supposed to use this info to evaluate actual oil filters in the real world, i.e. in the store or online before you decide which one is the "best" one to buy, because most manufacturers do not report any of those numbers you mentioned on their boxes/packages or report those specifics in any of their published "specs" online either... With almost all filters, you're very lucky if you get even an approximate "efficiency" rating printed on the box, and sometimes, (if you're *very* lucky!), you can find a filter or two that publish the microns of the very largest "particle size" that it will allow through, (but rarely both numbers at the same time)... However, I've never seen any filters that report any of those *other* numbers that you mention such as the "beta" rating/ratio, porosity, flow rate, delta P or anything else like that!

  • @sweetkellymay
    @sweetkellymay 11 лет назад +4

    Knowledgeable ,informative, concise , and very well spoken....If I may ask...What brand of oil filter do you use on your own vehicle...?

  • @nono7984
    @nono7984 8 лет назад +8

    The most important filter on the engine is the air filter. An engine will last a long time with out any oil filter ,with out an air filter the engines life is short in comparison down to hours in dirty operations,

  • @TomBTerrific
    @TomBTerrific 10 лет назад +6

    Good information. Does any professional organization rate or grade filters based on application and performance?

  • @jahangirfam
    @jahangirfam 11 лет назад +2

    very educational! Thanks, helped me a lot figure out what I want!!!

  • @jacksmith3189
    @jacksmith3189 7 лет назад +5

    All good and well BUT manufacturers don't reveal this info
    Efficiency % possibly is what I've found

  • @ppd1107
    @ppd1107 12 лет назад +2

    I looked up the beta ratio of the WIX filter on my vehicle. According to the WIX website the ratio is "Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/20". What does this mean?

  • @funghingsylviaso3263
    @funghingsylviaso3263 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks a lot for valuable speech.

  • @peskypeet
    @peskypeet 10 лет назад +10

    Don't ever post on bobistheiolguy because you'll make peoples heads explode.

  • @BigSarnt
    @BigSarnt 9 лет назад +4

    Sounds like my dad chewing me out over oil filters lol

  • @wmsky33
    @wmsky33 10 лет назад +3

    What about filter capacity, especially with newer extended oil change intervals? If the filter doesn't have the capacity to hold all of the particles it captures over time, won't it clog completely, then the pressure relief valve will open and bypass the filter? At that point the filter becomes useless.

    • @michaelovitch
      @michaelovitch 10 лет назад +1

      If it happens that mean you have a upstream problem.
      something is loosing particles,like a bearing or a moving part.
      the engine is partially toasted at this point.
      the oil filtration is not your major problem anymore.
      most of the times filters capacities are suficient.
      the viscosity of the "extended oil changes" is a problem however.
      I've seen engines rotating too slowly for the ecu to allow it to start in winter,because of its higher viscosity when old.
      oil changes resolve magically the problem...

    • @michaelovitch
      @michaelovitch 10 лет назад +1

      I have 2 vehicles one having a filter half the size of the other while the two engines have the same displacement.
      the car with the little filter is supposed to run two times more with each oil change,so filter, folowing the same manufacturer.
      just to say the filters don't filter a lot in quantities,soot from combustion,dust from the intake air passing through the rings ,few particles of bearing material.
      nothing wich could clog it unless major failure.
      If you make your oil analysed you will have a detailled but habitual list of those particles in it.

  • @warbirdsp51
    @warbirdsp51 12 лет назад +1

    Fram gives both efficency and micron rating in it's boxes. Most others don't (wix, motorcraft, bosch etc)

    • @mrbumcraic5046
      @mrbumcraic5046 6 лет назад

      warbirdsp51
      Show me their numbers
      Unless you got numbers it’s a guess

  • @MeekoTrickshotz
    @MeekoTrickshotz 9 лет назад +2

    a good video i found with good info

  • @kenj.8897
    @kenj.8897 6 лет назад +2

    I like kmart filters

  • @122redbird
    @122redbird 12 лет назад +1

    very informative video,,,thank u

  • @jjoshuarogers
    @jjoshuarogers 12 лет назад +1

    thank you for the info it help me out in the

  • @walterk1221
    @walterk1221 8 лет назад

    Feh, I am going to continue to use Fleetguard filters.

  • @followufollowme
    @followufollowme 8 лет назад

    Ok, now I understand.. but I still don't know what brand is the best (price/quality)....

  • @adhyantbhatt405
    @adhyantbhatt405 11 лет назад +1

    awesome.. now time some workout ..

  • @DasBootII
    @DasBootII 11 лет назад

    Excellent

  • @arthursmith643
    @arthursmith643 6 лет назад

    Which filter do you use? I want that one.

  • @nedunonnyp704
    @nedunonnyp704 10 лет назад

    Juicey Informashon!!!

  • @hjr9561
    @hjr9561 9 лет назад +2

    Excellent thank you. So who makes the best filter?

    • @MrLonewolf21
      @MrLonewolf21 8 лет назад

      +HJR Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @thevinceberry
      @thevinceberry 8 лет назад +1

      +HJR @2:20. The best filter you can buy is the one provide 99% filtration >20 microns, any brand will do because its the best rating. It will show in the spec. You are talking about car oil filter right?

    • @hjr9561
      @hjr9561 8 лет назад +1

      The_vb Any brand will NOT filter down to 99% >20 micron. Most of the cheaper brands will fail if they are tested. I found cheaper filter could not clean the oil as well as a higher quality filters and took much longer to lighten the oil on an oil filter demonstrator.
      Your car is an expensive thing so why use cheaper "kidneys" which will not work as well.
      I do the same for oils and through experience, I will only use a high quality 100% synthetic motor oil.

    • @thevinceberry
      @thevinceberry 8 лет назад

      HJR I mean whatever brand you can find that filter 99% >20 microns. The one I see for my vehicle is Bosch, STP, Mobil

    • @hjr9561
      @hjr9561 8 лет назад

      Yes, usually the well know brands from a trusted supplier as the best. But there are lots of knock offs coming from the country over there. They knock off everything. I prefer the brand Amsoil, American made and they can look very attractive if it is not hidden.

  • @opera93
    @opera93 5 лет назад

    Interesting

  • @noriacorp
    @noriacorp  10 лет назад +1

  • @chrisphilhower6029
    @chrisphilhower6029 6 лет назад

    Hard to do this. Most Manufacturers rate them at 96% or Higher. Single Pass or Multi Pass. Purolator only shows a Percentage as an Example. Not a full disclosure of the filters ability. Then when you see a Micron Rating, Its only one 1 specific filter. Which may not be the one you're using. I have a 2018 HD Sportster 1200. Factory Filter didn't have an Anti Drain back valve. And I Believe was only rated for 40 micron. I use a Bosch Premium. Which doesn't give the full specs. Then you see these videos on You-Tube. Guy thinks he know everything by counting the number of Pleats. Metal of Cardboard end caps. Etc. Its a matter of how small? And the Flow rate. Bypass Valve? I call it a Pressure Regulator. Too much Inlet, Not enough Outlet, Opens. Doesn't matter if the Filter is clogged. As an Auto tech, I have removed filters with Torn elements. Some even had the End Caps separated. Had to fish out pieces of the filter(Cannister style like on a Mercedes). One engine, Filter came out in 3 sections.

  • @zhbvenkhoReload
    @zhbvenkhoReload 7 лет назад +1

    Use a name you can trust. except the cheapest ones. those don't really do much.

  • @jyrostng
    @jyrostng 11 лет назад

    10 micron size is the same as
    a red blood cell

  • @MsBickle76
    @MsBickle76 11 лет назад

    Good lord! That's small!

  • @Jordendog
    @Jordendog 8 лет назад

    My head hurts...

  • @patricktreu782
    @patricktreu782 11 лет назад +2

    Yeah but I would never put a Fram Filter in my car.

  • @thomv970
    @thomv970 5 лет назад

    Just be sure you change oil filters at every oil change....with the best filter you can afford, but surely, don't go cheap. NEVER buy a FRAM tho, pure junk.

  • @rhshel
    @rhshel 5 лет назад

    what good is all this crap if you don't tell us what filter is the best for your vehicle? ? ?