I’m a 35yo guy and I’ve been in some dark places/situations all because I didn’t know/or get taught how to actually understand and FEEL my emotions, in starting to do so I’ve learnt so much about my true self and if I’m honest it’s saved me I think and I’ve only just started.. We don’t know how to handle or understand ourselves. To every man out there your worth something just listen to yourself!
Part of the problem is that many men view that kind of community and vulnerability as feminine or gay. They're raised to fear adopting anything feminine; that's a threat to their definition of masculinity. Men can make this change; they just have to reject that false belief that masculinity has no room for that kind of connection.
Yeah. But also - this stereotypical masculinity ideal is perpetuated by women too. But change needs to start with men… doing it for ourselves and for each other.
I am 38 and I am nearing 39. I broke up with my girlfriend in 2019 and have been single and alone since then. I have met many women but I think none of them want to be with me because I'm not the too 10% of men. My friends have all fallen into a similar situation and none of them want to hang out together anymore. I am alone, I don't have friends I see often, and I don't have a woman in my life. I live alone, I own a house, I don't have any debt and I feel like I've never felt so invisible in any part of my life like I do today. It's like I don't have value or matter to anyone anymore
@@ArcticSeraph it’s a very real feeling. Take a moment and view yourself as God views you. Then go out to a crowded place and do the same to the people there. It will alter you. Good luck!
If the society doesn’t act quickly to create organizations that will simply target men’s needs and problem solving, it will lead to an end of an empire especially western civilization
I love you, Trevor Noah!! I was the last one on line for your Daily show in NYC a while back and they wouldn't let me in... and soon after, the show ended. But I'll see ya around elsewhere! MUCH love! You seem so truly decent and I feel so happy to be in your presence in which ever way :) Peace & Blessings 🙏🏻♥️🙏🏻
Men who are raised about women are SO MUCH STRONGER in relationships. "wow you're so good at having a conversation." The answer is often "Oh I have 5 sisters" or "oh I was raised by my mom" those boys are given so many valuable tools to help them be happier. But there are women who punish men for being vulnerable too. It's terrible. Vulnerability is so special, but women are trained with some of these terrible, stupid expectations too.
Dude, the best revenge is take care of yourself first. Read good books, eat good food, exercise, clean your place, listen to good music, dress well and make peace with yourself. Then find a decent lady.
In a world where wealth is God, everything costs five bucks and you only get one, your boss is getting meaner, people are becoming heartless, people are choosing insanity. . . . Why do you think anyone has a "place"? Like your "place" is to get to work and worship your billionaire overlords or else.
@TwisterTornado with all this English you clearly know that my comment is specific to this clip. You however want to flex your debating prowess for some reason, leave me out of it
This conversation is needed as a 24 yr old male I struggled building social connections suffered from anger issues. I second with brother Trevor Noah we are losing our social comnection .From my experience Pride is the source of all misfortunes when wrong be humble to learn we are becoming connected through the internet however as people we are losing our social fabric its always resentment with our partners .Men suffer from depression more than ladies .Gender disparity affects both males and females and the lgbtq community . Its not a gender issue this is a human issue . In South Africa we have a motto Abantu Ubuntu Wabantu in IsiZulu meaning a human is another human being because of another human being . When last did you compliment your girlfriend your wife your boyfriend , husband . We are so engrossed in increasing our fiscal wealth we forget the very essence of being human . Steven brother I salute you man for bringing this as a young male I can relate with this issue. Being agressive does not define being male
Because parents are the weak link. Stop trying to be your child’s friend, male or female. Be a parent! Tell your children to ignore social media. Put some effort into parenting and restrict the access. Stop giving kids smart phones at young ages. They just need a basic communication device. Make them go out and interact with their environment! Also, don’t be afraid to critique them and ask for better, not mediocrity. Everyone isn’t going to be a winner. He’s right about young people have not had to sacrifice to be able to survive.
I have 2 sons and I believe it's getting much better for them. Nobody is criticizing them for having long hair or traditionally female interests, sharing their emotions, my oldest is only 12 and he has a vocabulary of a psychologists already. They seem to have a lot of outlets that didn't exist before and I love it. My biggest fear is that the history always circles and after all this progress it really looks like war is just behind the corner and in 5 to 8 years the purpose might me a war again. People never fucking learn! 😂😂😢😢😢😢😢
We were given purpose by war for a few 4 to 10 years at a time. The other 65% of our time we were finding purpose in work and family. We've been forced out of male jobs and female jobs alike. We've had our children taken from of us after our wives got bored and left. We've had our purpose taken from us and if society doesn't care about us there's no reason to keep going. I appreciate that the host understands that situation better than most. The only thing people like Trevor Noah is a condescending attitude and untrue left wing talking points. He mentions crying in front of men and getting assulted by them for as if that happens without mentioning a woman's reaction of disgust when you do it in front of them. He mentions we need hobbies or for men to get together. We aren't even aloud to have men's groups or clubs or even Boy Scouts without some lady or ladies suing to join and take them over. "I spent all of my time with women." Yeah we can tell.
I'm sitting here trying to empathize with you, but I'm sitting here wondering why you expect to be taken seriously when all you do is lie and hold a hate for women that's visible in your words.
But men can’t speak about their emotions… at least not to women. You don’t believe me? Sit and cry to your girlfriend for 6 months a few times per week, tell her how hard your life is, all the stress, worries, cry a little and see what happens… she’ll say things like I just don’t feel the spark anymore etc and inevitably leave you.
If you’re that upset you probably need therapy, which is awesome and you should get it. Women can’t take on their partners mental health load too, a lot of times men need professional help and that shouldn’t be stigmatized at all, it’s healthy.
As I listened to this conversation I began to understand the men in my life and how they go about handling life issues and relationship. Whether its at home or work place, how they communicate and interact, and also problem solving. I see this in my father, my brother, my husband and son . It’s such a struggle for all males , more so if they do not have a loving and kind father /male figure . Thank you for this insight.
@@amymccall5263Those comment isn’t about me I’ve never suffered with mental health I’m simply answering the question. Women will say why don’t our men just open up and share how he feels but when he does that they lose attraction and leave him.
@@rohayahstrong8997 thank you for understanding i personally like dealing wit my own issues and have never suffered from mental health but that’s not all men. It’s nice to see a woman who does actually make the effort to understand men! Your dad must have raised you correct.
A problem not often talked about is women aren't knowledgeable enough, whether by choice or circumstance, to be able to navigate and accept a man's negative emotions without getting the ick. There are far too many stories of women leaving men when they are downtrodden, and far too many women who prefer stoic men, that men are conditioned to believe it is better to keep their emotions to themselves. Only the most mature women can navigate this complex, and there are a lot of women that don't even care to understand men at this capacity. Men need romantic and sexual validation, if they stand to lose it by being emotional, they are not going to be emotional. No one ever talks about this, though.
Started watching Trevor from his show, high comidic takes on the news are class. Also a deep, honest thinker not this need to constantly use brvado to hide things. Converdations like this need to happen more to understand the complexities of people & their struggles not to shune, be-little others.
It really seems like being able to be open about what’s going on inside requires a level of strength that feeds back into the given ability. The ability seems to be promulgated by a relationship with someone a “younger” man respects
I find the video game best friend thing to be a sad consequence of our society wasting and discouraging masculinity. Needing to pretend to be someone else in order to make friends, suggests self loathing and social awkwardness.
@@JM-bg2ts yeah you have to find a way for people to want to express themselves the way they want to while also making sure what is expressed is socially acceptable. We need to figure out what should be socially acceptable first though.
You mean the ones the natives lost their land to? Couldn't be talking about those founding fathers that literally did the exact same thing and worse...
One thing, that must be learned by men. And feminists also need stop to blame: family and community. We must stop to blame marriage, kids and so on, economy isn't the problem, is the feel. People, specially man, are affraid to have family. Hobbies are, good, and no, video game isn't hobby, look I like video game, but gaming isn't fullfilling. Liming is a thing here in Brazil too, we men get along to do nothing, but unfortunally with too much influence of american culture, people begin to blame doing nothing with friends. Gen Z here still hangout alone, but many specially for middle classes are struggling becaus sty too much on internet, and thing that everything is hard as hell.
Trevor seems to forget that many men reveal themselves through fishing, sport or other activities as a way to be comfortable enough to open up about other issues. We are wired differently and instead of saying we need to accommodate that difference we say there is something wrong and women are doing it the right way. We look at issues that men face as self sabotage rather than external and with women’s issues it’s always an external force that is suppressing them. I think Trevor has a bit of a bias that would shed his liberal card if he were to explore it more deeply and look at the issues from a top down view instead. The idea that we need laws for men to accommodate men sounds too absurd to him and to women.
Trevor Noah's advice is 100% the wrong reason why men are struggling. Diary of a CEO has other guests telling a much more accurate picture of research and information.
He addressed male loneliness, not the lack of female interest. In fact he even prefixed the conversation about him not relating to male isolation. The only legitimate criticism you would have is that he steered the conversation away from male/female courtship, which could be a huge driving factor in the declination of male bonding!
Wow my comment was deleted! Real men can handle the truth. I am a stoic woman in control of my emotions. Nothing turns me off faster than a whiny emotional man. Or for that matter a man who can’t control his temper. I want a real man not a 4 year old.
Vulnerability is not weakness, rather it takes strength to be truly vulnerable. Men are dying by suicide at an alarming rate and although I believe purpose is truly what men need, being vulnerable with how you feel and understanding your emotions are important.
@@stevenwhearity1944 Agreed. Being an integrated person with a deep purpose and understanding of one's state, their weaknesses, strengths and passions... is about as masculine a pursuit can be. I think it's important that men be extremely careful with who they are vulnerable with. Even 1 trusting friend can make all the positive difference.
@@danbarnett88 it’s important to be vulnerable at some points. Think of it like a suit of armor. Some parts have to be exposed to allow for movement. These are areas of weakness but they are necessary. The challenge is figuring out where and when to be vulnerable.
Bottle up sure but then remember eventually there needs to be release of those emotions and the repercussions of that release is a detriment to others when anger is shown ( fear and sadness being underlying emotion) . Men can and should be able to talk to other men. And then action as well in terms of moving their bodies and actually doing things to serve society .
📺 Watch the full episode here
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This conversation is so needed. Men please keep talking about this.
I’m a 35yo guy and I’ve been in some dark places/situations all because I didn’t know/or get taught how to actually understand and FEEL my emotions, in starting to do so I’ve learnt so much about my true self and if I’m honest it’s saved me I think and I’ve only just started.. We don’t know how to handle or understand ourselves. To every man out there your worth something just listen to yourself!
Part of the problem is that many men view that kind of community and vulnerability as feminine or gay. They're raised to fear adopting anything feminine; that's a threat to their definition of masculinity. Men can make this change; they just have to reject that false belief that masculinity has no room for that kind of connection.
Yeah.
But also - this stereotypical masculinity ideal is perpetuated by women too.
But change needs to start with men… doing it for ourselves and for each other.
I am 38 and I am nearing 39. I broke up with my girlfriend in 2019 and have been single and alone since then. I have met many women but I think none of them want to be with me because I'm not the too 10% of men. My friends have all fallen into a similar situation and none of them want to hang out together anymore. I am alone, I don't have friends I see often, and I don't have a woman in my life. I live alone, I own a house, I don't have any debt and I feel like I've never felt so invisible in any part of my life like I do today. It's like I don't have value or matter to anyone anymore
@@ArcticSeraph it’s a very real feeling. Take a moment and view yourself as God views you. Then go out to a crowded place and do the same to the people there.
It will alter you.
Good luck!
Somehow Similar with my brother situation.
Big love bro. I feel similarly. Solidarity and keep up the fight for your own meaning and purpose.
Start travelling
If the society doesn’t act quickly to create organizations that will simply target men’s needs and problem solving, it will lead to an end of an empire especially western civilization
I love you, Trevor Noah!! I was the last one on line for your Daily show in NYC a while back and they wouldn't let me in... and soon after, the show ended. But I'll see ya around elsewhere! MUCH love! You seem so truly decent and I feel so happy to be in your presence in which ever way :)
Peace & Blessings 🙏🏻♥️🙏🏻
Men who are raised about women are SO MUCH STRONGER in relationships. "wow you're so good at having a conversation." The answer is often "Oh I have 5 sisters" or "oh I was raised by my mom" those boys are given so many valuable tools to help them be happier.
But there are women who punish men for being vulnerable too. It's terrible. Vulnerability is so special, but women are trained with some of these terrible, stupid expectations too.
Absolutely not
Women should be raised about men
@@Cateater123 Do you date a lot of men?
Dude, the best revenge is take care of yourself first. Read good books, eat good food, exercise, clean your place, listen to good music, dress well and make peace with yourself. Then find a decent lady.
It’s about being honest with each other & ourselves with respect for one another. Not man or woman but as human beings.
He made a good point on women being more able to enjoy the little things in life, to just be. Historically, men didn't really get to practice that.
The world is changing men do not have a clearly defined place in the world
In a world where wealth is God,
everything costs five bucks and you only get one,
your boss is getting meaner,
people are becoming heartless,
people are choosing insanity. . . .
Why do you think anyone has a "place"?
Like your "place" is to get to work and worship your billionaire overlords or else.
@@TwisterTornado they were focusing on men on this clip
@@TwisterTornadoI’ll give you a place
@TwisterTornado on the clip they are speaking specifically on young men struggling.
@TwisterTornado with all this English you clearly know that my comment is specific to this clip. You however want to flex your debating prowess for some reason, leave me out of it
Agree with everything on the podcast
It is absolutely fine for a man to be vulnerable and to show emotion.
This conversation is needed as a 24 yr old male I struggled building social connections suffered from anger issues. I second with brother Trevor Noah we are losing our social comnection .From my experience Pride is the source of all misfortunes when wrong be humble to learn we are becoming connected through the internet however as people we are losing our social fabric its always resentment with our partners .Men suffer from depression more than ladies .Gender disparity affects both males and females and the lgbtq community . Its not a gender issue this is a human issue . In South Africa we have a motto Abantu Ubuntu Wabantu in IsiZulu meaning a human is another human being because of another human being . When last did you compliment your girlfriend your wife your boyfriend , husband . We are so engrossed in increasing our fiscal wealth we forget the very essence of being human . Steven brother I salute you man for bringing this as a young male I can relate with this issue. Being agressive does not define being male
Therapy is good for men too. Bottled up emotions can lead to violence toward OTHERS.
Excellent video...again! Thank you! I enjoyed it and have shared it all over the place!
Because parents are the weak link. Stop trying to be your child’s friend, male or female. Be a parent! Tell your children to ignore social media. Put some effort into parenting and restrict the access. Stop giving kids smart phones at young ages. They just need a basic communication device. Make them go out and interact with their environment! Also, don’t be afraid to critique them and ask for better, not mediocrity. Everyone isn’t going to be a winner. He’s right about young people have not had to sacrifice to be able to survive.
I don’t understand why social media is bad
I have 2 sons and I believe it's getting much better for them. Nobody is criticizing them for having long hair or traditionally female interests, sharing their emotions, my oldest is only 12 and he has a vocabulary of a psychologists already. They seem to have a lot of outlets that didn't exist before and I love it. My biggest fear is that the history always circles and after all this progress it really looks like war is just behind the corner and in 5 to 8 years the purpose might me a war again. People never fucking learn! 😂😂😢😢😢😢😢
@@justynakavi407 nice
We were given purpose by war for a few 4 to 10 years at a time. The other 65% of our time we were finding purpose in work and family. We've been forced out of male jobs and female jobs alike. We've had our children taken from of us after our wives got bored and left. We've had our purpose taken from us and if society doesn't care about us there's no reason to keep going.
I appreciate that the host understands that situation better than most. The only thing people like Trevor Noah is a condescending attitude and untrue left wing talking points. He mentions crying in front of men and getting assulted by them for as if that happens without mentioning a woman's reaction of disgust when you do it in front of them. He mentions we need hobbies or for men to get together. We aren't even aloud to have men's groups or clubs or even Boy Scouts without some lady or ladies suing to join and take them over.
"I spent all of my time with women."
Yeah we can tell.
I'm sitting here trying to empathize with you, but I'm sitting here wondering why you expect to be taken seriously when all you do is lie and hold a hate for women that's visible in your words.
no woman is suing to be in a man's club. women want to be left out of this until people can self- regulate.
But men can’t speak about their emotions… at least not to women. You don’t believe me? Sit and cry to your girlfriend for 6 months a few times per week, tell her how hard your life is, all the stress, worries, cry a little and see what happens… she’ll say things like I just don’t feel the spark anymore etc and inevitably leave you.
If you’re that upset you probably need therapy, which is awesome and you should get it. Women can’t take on their partners mental health load too, a lot of times men need professional help and that shouldn’t be stigmatized at all, it’s healthy.
As I listened to this conversation I began to understand the men in my life and how they go about handling life issues and relationship. Whether its at home or work place, how they communicate and interact, and also problem solving. I see this in my father, my brother, my husband and son . It’s such a struggle for all males , more so if they do not have a loving and kind father /male figure . Thank you for this insight.
@@amymccall5263Those comment isn’t about me I’ve never suffered with mental health I’m simply answering the question. Women will say why don’t our men just open up and share how he feels but when he does that they lose attraction and leave him.
@@rohayahstrong8997 thank you for understanding i personally like dealing wit my own issues and have never suffered from mental health but that’s not all men. It’s nice to see a woman who does actually make the effort to understand men! Your dad must have raised you correct.
A problem not often talked about is women aren't knowledgeable enough, whether by choice or circumstance, to be able to navigate and accept a man's negative emotions without getting the ick. There are far too many stories of women leaving men when they are downtrodden, and far too many women who prefer stoic men, that men are conditioned to believe it is better to keep their emotions to themselves.
Only the most mature women can navigate this complex, and there are a lot of women that don't even care to understand men at this capacity.
Men need romantic and sexual validation, if they stand to lose it by being emotional, they are not going to be emotional.
No one ever talks about this, though.
We're bottling up emotions because we have so much on our plate
Asking a follow up because I truly want to learn….
What is on your plate- please be as detailed as you can.
Again not to challenge but to get insight
🤗
Started watching Trevor from his show, high comidic takes on the news are class. Also a deep, honest thinker not this need to constantly use brvado to hide things. Converdations like this need to happen more to understand the complexities of people & their struggles not to shune, be-little others.
Father Richard Rohr. A connection with a father or good connection with an older man is invaluable
Very insightful dialog!
8:52 That's a huge point right there. Whether it's by design or adaptation
It really seems like being able to be open about what’s going on inside requires a level of strength that feeds back into the given ability.
The ability seems to be promulgated by a relationship with someone a “younger” man respects
Men are also necessarily competitive (egotistic) which can be isolating for others guys...
Who is the interviewer? He's amazing. What interesting questions
I suppose men do not have a father or brother to open up to these days.
Very true about the men with great life skills - they mostly grew up with older sisters or all around women - Def true of my male friends
Im 44... im scared... i don't belong... can't find my place... the world is crazy... and no one seems to care... help me 💔
Sending hugs 😊🤗
I find the video game best friend thing to be a sad consequence of our society wasting and discouraging masculinity. Needing to pretend to be someone else in order to make friends, suggests self loathing and social awkwardness.
@@JM-bg2ts yeah you have to find a way for people to want to express themselves the way they want to while also making sure what is expressed is socially acceptable. We need to figure out what should be socially acceptable first though.
The host (who knows some things on the topic) is interviewing a guy who sounds like he was just introduced to the topic a few days ago.
Amen!🙏
What is he talking about!!!! Most men are fine just being! It's the women who can't just be!!!
Oh look the guy who said the Hamas terrorists were akin to our founding fathers 🤡🤡🤡
I mean the founding fathers are more like Israel.
You mean the ones the natives lost their land to? Couldn't be talking about those founding fathers that literally did the exact same thing and worse...
One thing, that must be learned by men. And feminists also need stop to blame: family and community. We must stop to blame marriage, kids and so on, economy isn't the problem, is the feel. People, specially man, are affraid to have family. Hobbies are, good, and no, video game isn't hobby, look I like video game, but gaming isn't fullfilling. Liming is a thing here in Brazil too, we men get along to do nothing, but unfortunally with too much influence of american culture, people begin to blame doing nothing with friends. Gen Z here still hangout alone, but many specially for middle classes are struggling becaus sty too much on internet, and thing that everything is hard as hell.
I would not describe reddit to be one of the most beautiful communities lmao
Trevor seems to forget that many men reveal themselves through fishing, sport or other activities as a way to be comfortable enough to open up about other issues. We are wired differently and instead of saying we need to accommodate that difference we say there is something wrong and women are doing it the right way. We look at issues that men face as self sabotage rather than external and with women’s issues it’s always an external force that is suppressing them.
I think Trevor has a bit of a bias that would shed his liberal card if he were to explore it more deeply and look at the issues from a top down view instead.
The idea that we need laws for men to accommodate men sounds too absurd to him and to women.
Reddit's really cool. The moderator's are pretty good at keeping the responses on topic
This sounds familiar.😊
Love you, brothers. 🫂
🌟
Trevor Noah's advice is 100% the wrong reason why men are struggling. Diary of a CEO has other guests telling a much more accurate picture of research and information.
Do you have a better opinion?😊
@@aidenthomas7711 every option has trade offs
It's Trump's fault😂
😂😂😂😂
He’s a millionaire that has women throwing themselves at him. I don’t value his opinion on a matter of loneliness and lack of female interest.
He addressed male loneliness, not the lack of female interest. In fact he even prefixed the conversation about him not relating to male isolation. The only legitimate criticism you would have is that he steered the conversation away from male/female courtship, which could be a huge driving factor in the declination of male bonding!
You actually watched the clip just to misunderstand it. Wow
Wow my comment was deleted! Real men can handle the truth.
I am a stoic woman in control of my emotions. Nothing turns me off faster than a whiny emotional man.
Or for that matter a man who can’t control his temper.
I want a real man not a 4 year old.
Read up on Jordan Peterson not this sellout
@@johnnymoon13 I don’t like him much. He says some cool things but he’s too weird for me.
You act like a perfect human. Pointing fingers and calling others names.
@@MarioMario-vy4bithen don't watch lol
Vulnerability = weakness = defeat. Stay strong men! 💪
Vulnerability is not weakness, rather it takes strength to be truly vulnerable. Men are dying by suicide at an alarming rate and although I believe purpose is truly what men need, being vulnerable with how you feel and understanding your emotions are important.
Wrong. Very wrong. Forcing people to ‘man up’ has led us to where we are.
Yes by all means keep doing what you’ve always done and expect a different result 🤦♀️
@@stevenwhearity1944 Agreed. Being an integrated person with a deep purpose and understanding of one's state, their weaknesses, strengths and passions... is about as masculine a pursuit can be. I think it's important that men be extremely careful with who they are vulnerable with. Even 1 trusting friend can make all the positive difference.
@@danbarnett88 it’s important to be vulnerable at some points. Think of it like a suit of armor. Some parts have to be exposed to allow for movement. These are areas of weakness but they are necessary. The challenge is figuring out where and when to be vulnerable.
There's nothing wrong with a man bottling up his emotions. Being overly emotional and going to therapy is for women and gays.
Of course this comment came from you
So, are you good? Youre happy yea?
Bottle up sure but then remember eventually there needs to be release of those emotions and the repercussions of that release is a detriment to others when anger is shown ( fear and sadness being underlying emotion) . Men can and should be able to talk to other men. And then action as well in terms of moving their bodies and actually doing things to serve society .
Edit: Clearly a troll, dont feed it.
@@ungenbunyon5548 Yes.
He’s full of crap
@@mjaybee maybe but is what he’s saying completely wrong?
You shouldn't be here, since you know what is crap and what isn't.