@@postscript67 True, although in my ancestors were farmers, not slavers. Those same slavers didn’t share their fortune with my ancestors either, so why I should apologise for what some horrible white person did to someone else’s black ancestors over a hundred years ago is unfair.
Quite so. That said, if I were to sing this in public I would look at rewording the "simple creatures" line... It was the 1930s, acceptable phrasing has changed since then; we can do better for our modern ears. The song's poking fun at our own absurdity, continuing to use terms that have darkened since undermines the fun.
@@jb3222 They need to learn to leave their own personal insecurities behind in their native country..... and learn to laugh WITH us, not take things so literally. Very sad state of affairs.
@@nareshlathia5334 If it's that bad why is it millions of people's dream to to come here but I'm sure you needn't be concerned? When the inevitable dismantling happens it'll all be gone - NHS, free housing, pensions, free education, benefits, Bill of Rights, democracy to name but a few. Now don't go all woke on me but you're talking through your backside.
“They are obviously definitely nuts” 😉 Noel Coward, working class genius. Start the Week is awful without Andrew Marr. I listened to a debate on masculinity the other day and all the contributors were female.
"I listened to a debate on masculinity the other day and all the contributors were female." Clear evidence that we're living in Clown World. Either that, or the "End Times" of the Book of Revelations -- if they're not in fact the same thing.
The BBC are not very well regarded for archiving stuff. They are now all too busy in the important businesses of turning themselves into something else. Once they are all one mass amoeba the large boot sole can be applied.
Isn't it bizarre that instead of judging people by their talents we're supposed to judge them according to their immutable characteristics like age, ethnicity, etc, and that this is regarded as "progressive".
But only SOME characteristics though, others are utterly worthless, and mark their holder as equally worthless. Whiteness, masculinity, being British etc, all of zero value to these progressives.
mmm, yes. People being judged by their age, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, social class etc, is definitely a new phenomenon and is entirely the fault of the 'woke' movement. Never happened in the world before.
The British Empire was the most benign Empire ever. The Africans had education, medical care, plenty of food, justice and fair play. I lived in Zambia for a while in 1974 and our house servant would lament the Colonial times when quality British made goods were in the shops. He referred to it as “before time”. When I was there, shoddy Chinese goods were in the shops because they were building the TanZam Railway.
@@janewebster8014 I wondered where on earth did you pick up such jingoistic rubbish from! England was responsible for some heinous acts including concentration camps in South Africa the murder of peoples in their own countries and forced subjugation If you were American you would be longing for the Old South saying how much better it was in those days, I hadn't realised that the Colonial spirit lived on. God help us !
Yes, rotting fish entrails is the main ingredient of Garum, the pre-eminent food flavoring of the Roman Empire.. with descendants in Worcestershire Sauce and Vietnamese Fish Sauce.
Who appointed the BBC as the British peoples "moral" guardian, to dictate what we can and can't listen to or see. We pay for the BBC, they do not have the right to amend programmes because they think someone may be offended, or not like it. Do what most sensible people do, if you don't like something, switch off, don't listen or don't read it.
Mad dogs and englishmen is one of my favorite songs 🎵 I loved listening to that song as a teenager although the road to Mandalay is by far the most beautiful song by Noel Coward I still really liked mad dogs and English men.
Coward had nothing to do with On The Road To Mandalay. The words were taken from a poem by Rudyard Kipling and set to music by an American gentleman rejoicing in the improbable-sounding name of Oley Speaks.
@@Krzyszczynski so noel coward only sang that song with the rich baritone of his ok that happens in the world of music its still his performance that is memorable.
I'm in my 30's and fancied a bit of radio 4 in the car, 1 in 3 or 4 pieces seemed to include the current propaganda. There's an awful lot about 'black people', whatever that monolith is. Very little about any other ethnic minority, it's not very diverse at all.
The BBC news site recently had a story that trans med should be proud of their periods. I fell off of my chair I laughed so much. They made it impossible to satirise. They regularly have trans and black stories representing three per cent of the population. Do they have stories relating to old people (20+ % of the population)? Of course not.
On the contrary, I'm immensely proud of our past Empire. There must have been something good to have so many of the former colonies trying to emulate us and clamber to return to the mother country.
I’d gone to Nigeria to repair a machine, at a heliport I was the only white guy and called over to the desk by the security chap who looked at my passport and boomed out “ah, British, our former colonial masters”, I though bloody hell where is this going, then he gave a big smile and asked to shake my hand saying “welcome to Nigeria”. Only trouble I’ve ever had was in South America when people thought I was American, when I pointed out I was English, everything was fine.
@@alastairmcmurray4873 Same with me when I spent a few months in India. I actually got preferential treatment when using the trains. On more than one occasion I was invited to wait for my train in the station masters office instead of on the platform with crowds of people
Shows you how ignorant these people are when they think Coward's 'Mad Dogs and Englishmen' is colonialist when it's actually something they might want, satirising it.
I listened to the Today programme and also BBC world service …anybody remember Alister Cooks “Letter from American” It was all great then …I never switch it on now ……sad because I listened to it from being 7 years old.
The songs we were taught in school in the '60s (including some jolly seafaring ones with a Caribbean flavour) would have the BBC frothing at the mouth. I have a feeling that some of these were sung along to radio programmes broadcast by a certain corporation. I'll do some checking and, if that turns out to be the case, will expect the woke hordes to tear the BBC down and throw it in the river.
Disagree. Take their money, better us than some leftists. Opportunities abound for mistakes and go slows. They took over our institutions, let's learn some lessons and take them back.
Moi aussi??! The BBC wasn't like this decades ago. It was more or less the opposite. A bastion of Britishness. Still, it was chok full of massive egos and petty dictators. The media attracts exactly those sorts, the politics is just an add on.
@@callumbush1Such lofty approbation. Your virtue and contribution to the commonweal of humanity must Indeed be immense. One can only but be in awe of your undoubted hollines.
Oddly enough, dear old, sad old, Auntie BBC will no doubt double ban the song. Not only does it reference the Empire and colonialism, it also suggests that you can go out in hot weather without bursting into flames.
Crazy isn't it, the whole song is along the lines of "Sensible people who live there do this, but Englishmen (and other mad dogs) do something really inappropriate, unwise or generally stupid." - it riduclues us and trying to maintain our curious ways in a climate where it's really not such a great idea. I live in SE Asia and the ex-pats here behave exactly that way, while the locals chuckle at us in bemusement.
While they’re at it, they had better do a clean sweep of all BBC comedy from its inception until the present State of Cringe. While they’re at it, perhaps remove the “British” designation from BBC. Just call it The Corporation. Or perhaps, just “The” to be safe. Because there is no,end to this movement of erasure.
Mate if you are 72 and can't see that the censorship and propaganda on You Tube is worse than the BBC and content increasingly even blander, that's really rather sad.
@@mavisemberson8737 Not as bad as the BBC, ITV or Ch4 yet, give it time. It's a creeping phenomenon. Apparently you don't listen to critical audiobooks contrary to the narrative. Cancel culture is alive and well here on You Tube content and the comments section.
I quite enjoy listening to old comedies on Radio 4 Extra; but the BBC often prefaces them with a limp apology for ‘the humour and attitudes of the time.’ I wonder how long it will be before today’s programmes, if they bother to recycle them, are shamefacedly apologised for, for being insufferably woke and misleading.
I so seriously do not want the BBC to tell me what it is safe for me to hear or see. Beyond patronising. Are we going to hear the song and suddenly yearn to rebuild an empire? And even if we were, how far would we get?
Will someone for God's sake shut this hateful institution down. Time to purge the institutions and universities and get back to teaching proper subjects to not excuses for pedalling ideology
Radio 4 was always my favourite station by far. Absolutely brilliant. Loved it all my life. Getting too wishy washy now. People now have no intellect.The BBC used to be the one place all countries listened to in order to hear the truth. No longer. I stopped trusting it when it told me how to think.
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I wonder if it was the atttitudes of an earlier generation of such BBC types that Coward was satirising in his song "Don't let's be beastly to the Germans."
I think the problem with the song is it calls the South East Asian “Natives” as “Simple Minded” and it uses the terms “White Men” and “English Men” interchangeably.
I think the British should start showing some national pride, like they used to. Nothing to be ashamed of, like in most countries around the world. Where else on this planet can you live without being pressured to; learn and speak the language, culture, study UK history, use 'please' and 'thank you' and more recently, be passed over in employment for being indigenous , etc...
Well BRITISHBC is a misnomer, isn't it? Whoever's in charge neither knows nor understands us. P.S: "Mad Dogs . . ." is one of my favorite lyrics. I learned it while in my teens (in '50s) and still remember it.
There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so, as Shakespeare said, with his concise representation of part of stoic philosophy. These people are well described as emotional haemophiliacs. Taking offence is the first refuge of those with weak arguments.
Sometimes we should lighten up! Don't try so hard to feel insulted. Don't abandon your sense of humor. The citizens/residents of places mentioned in the humorous song are not so very thin skinned! Is the average person unable to determine the difference between humor and insult? I hope NOT.
In times of stress, there’s much to be said for wu wei, “action through non-action”. I can easily imagine my school masters commenting, “Yes, we are well aware that that is your attitude, Verney”. Indeed, there are many situations in life where “action through non-action” is not the right response. But still, I strongly question western values. Noel Coward’s immortal song ‘Mad Dogs and Englishmen’ has even been cancelled by the hated BBC for “colonial attitudes”. This is absurd because his song is packed with self-mockery and tongue in cheek irony, praising the attitude of indigenous peoples the world over in contrast to the madness of the colonial Europeans. And by the way, pythons do romp in mangrove swamps. Coward obviously checked his facts.
Yes, Coward calling natives "simple creatures" and other terms are a bit dated and reflect an imperious attitude, but that was the time it was made in. He still was primarily parodying the British for their own rigidities and inflexibilities. Sounds like the BBC can't trust the listener to discern that this was from a different time, a different era and a different world.
To be honest, I could not give a fig about what the BBC is or is not doing! I don't listen or watch anything that is put out by the BBC. I boycott them completely! I prefer to watch 'The New Culture Forum'. 😁
“Radio 4 has become so right on that I don’t like it” Oddly enough I stopped listening to R4 a year or two ago as I got sick of woke ‘comedy’ and the patronising right on attitude. I use to love it despite its faults. Now you can’t see the joins between the faults.
Quite, I've taken to listening to old episodes of the classic panel shows from a time when playful use of the English language wasn't something people criticise you for. Try being playful with language on reddit, say, and you are badmouthed for 'trying to be clever', no, not at all, I'm just using the glory and deliciousness of English language to the extent to which I am able.
Very sad that people are not allowed to have a sense of humour anymore. In any case Noel Coward was poking fun at the English in this song - THEY HAVEN'T EVEN UNDERSTOOD IT!!!
I think it was a poorly chosen line. Somebody who hears those few words out of context could easily find it offensive. There are other lines from the song that could have been quoted safely. In the Philippines they have lovely screens To protect you from the glare would have been a good choice. Or: In the Malay States there are hats like plates Which the Britishers won't wear
It is a song praising the attitudes of Colonial people in so far as they have far too much intelligence to go out in the midday sum. May we now get on with life and stop dredging into the past and over and finitely examining all this crap. I for one am hugely proud of our colonial past and without exception; none of those countries that were part of the British Empire would have the level of success and position in the world they enjoy today.
It's a song that mocks the British for their insistence on going out into the hot sun when everyone else understands it's not a good idea. Also, it mentions regions that were not British colonies - the Philippines, Argentina, and Thailand. So it can't really be considered propaganda for the British empire in any meaningful sense. Cancel culture doesn't quite understand how much credibility they lose when they go after things as innocuous as this.
Don't care. I cancelled the BBC fifteen years ago, when I finally switched off Radio 4 for the last time (already got rid of my TV thirty years ago). Good riddance to it.
It's up the the English what they want to do with their own culture. It's their culture and people should worry about the history of their own culture. Blacks shouldn't sell crack.
The same on RUclips with the song "Civilization" from Danny Kaye and the Andrews Sisters. Suddenly you couldn't find the song on RUclips. Later came back.
BBC never miss a chance to make themselves look pathetic
Hooey!
Thumbs up if you are an Englishmen! Or a mad dog, for the matter!
"an Englishmen (sic)" -- or a certified ignoramus, for THAT matter!
@ That Andy: 👍👍👍👏. Anyone who thinks otherwise, can go sit on a spike!
I am offended, will it matter? No because I’m white and English.
@Mcgilead Mcgilead and straight. literally the wrong category by every metric supposedly.
The BBC is perfectly beastly to cancel any work of Noel Coward .
Just dreadful darling, dreadful!
The song is written to show us laughing at ourselves … not a celebration of ‘Colonial values’
Yes, but the BBC can only understand their own prejudices and have no ability to laugh at anything, only to whine and complain.
Irony is beyond some folks.
We're not allowed to laugh at ourselves now, only to beat ourselves mercilessly for the crimes of our country, culture and race.
@@postscript67 True, although in my ancestors were farmers, not slavers. Those same slavers didn’t share their fortune with my ancestors either, so why I should apologise for what some horrible white person did to someone else’s black ancestors over a hundred years ago is unfair.
Quite so. That said, if I were to sing this in public I would look at rewording the "simple creatures" line...
It was the 1930s, acceptable phrasing has changed since then; we can do better for our modern ears. The song's poking fun at our own absurdity, continuing to use terms that have darkened since undermines the fun.
Love the song, It’s simply history, I’m proud of Britain and being British and how we led the world despite our size!
And this is still the place that everyone wants to come to, despite our alleged phobias and "isms".
@@jb3222 They need to learn to leave their own personal insecurities behind in their native country..... and learn to laugh WITH us, not take things so literally. Very sad state of affairs.
A superbly witty song with marvellous lyrics lightly poking fun at The English!
The British Empire is, believe me, not a thing to be proud of.
All reference to anything English including the words England and English is being erased. England is being dismantled!
Unfortunately the system has been replacing us from just after 1945.
What system?
England needs to be dismantled. England of the Norman Days. Moat round the castle attitude will lead to this, unfortunately, for the English.
@@nareshlathia5334 If it's that bad why is it millions of people's dream to to come here but I'm sure you needn't be concerned? When the inevitable dismantling happens it'll all be gone - NHS, free housing, pensions, free education, benefits, Bill of Rights, democracy to name but a few. Now don't go all woke on me but you're talking through your backside.
@ Naresh Lathia: go dismantle yourself! What total, and utter rot. Begone with your drivel!
“They are obviously definitely nuts” 😉 Noel Coward, working class genius. Start the Week is awful without Andrew Marr. I listened to a debate on masculinity the other day and all the contributors were female.
Our institutions are completely captured.
We need to brake away from this rotten system and build our OWN media and parallel institutions.
"I listened to a debate on masculinity the other day and all the contributors were female."
Clear evidence that we're living in Clown World. Either that, or the "End Times" of the Book of Revelations -- if they're not in fact the same thing.
The BBC are not very well regarded for archiving stuff. They are now all too busy in the important businesses of turning themselves into something else. Once they are all one mass amoeba the large boot sole can be applied.
I'm 62 as time goes on I listen less and less to the BBC. Which is a shame. I use to promote the BBC but I now struggle with woke propaganda.
@@ellenmendoza7246 I agree. A lot of the best programs on the BBC have subtitles.
Obscene attack on the genius of Coward. So obtuse too.
The system found him guilty of being White and English.
@@evolassunglasses4673 Indeed.
Such shocking ignorance though, "the system" didn't even bother to attempt to understand the Lyrics.
*_Keep the , "Mad Dogs" part as it "Reflects" the BBC's woke "Attitude" and leave out the "Englishmen" as the BBC are far from that ..._*
You hit the nail squarely on the head. The BBC is beyond a joke and should be thrown in the bin.
Isn't it bizarre that instead of judging people by their talents we're supposed to judge them according to their immutable characteristics like age, ethnicity, etc, and that this is regarded as "progressive".
But only SOME characteristics though, others are utterly worthless, and mark their holder as equally worthless. Whiteness, masculinity, being British etc, all of zero value to these progressives.
mmm, yes. People being judged by their age, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, social class etc, is definitely a new phenomenon and is entirely the fault of the 'woke' movement. Never happened in the world before.
The British Empire was the most benign Empire ever. The Africans had education, medical care, plenty of food, justice and fair play. I lived in Zambia for a while in 1974 and our house servant would lament the Colonial times when quality British made goods were in the shops. He referred to it as “before time”. When I was there, shoddy Chinese goods were in the shops because they were building the TanZam Railway.
Oh My goodness where did you go to school ?
@@bobnewmanknott3433 The City of Bath Girls’ Grammar School. Why do you ask?
@@janewebster8014 I wondered where on earth did you pick up such jingoistic rubbish from! England was responsible for some heinous acts including concentration camps in South Africa the murder of peoples in their own countries and forced subjugation If you were American you would be longing for the Old South saying how much better it was in those days, I hadn't realised that the Colonial spirit lived on. God help us !
A pile of rotting fish guts is more wholesome than the bbc at this point!
Yes, rotting fish entrails is the main ingredient of Garum, the pre-eminent food flavoring of the Roman Empire.. with descendants in Worcestershire Sauce and Vietnamese Fish Sauce.
Who appointed the BBC as the British peoples "moral" guardian, to dictate what we can and can't listen to or see. We pay for the BBC, they do not have the right to amend programmes because they think someone may be offended, or not like it. Do what most sensible people do, if you don't like something, switch off, don't listen or don't read it.
Or pay your licence fee
Yes
What next? Let's Fall in Love? 'Birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it...' discrimates against uneducated fleas. Ban it!
Mad dogs and englishmen is one of my favorite songs 🎵 I loved listening to that song as a teenager although the road to Mandalay is by far the most beautiful song by Noel Coward I still really liked mad dogs and English men.
Coward had nothing to do with On The Road To Mandalay. The words were taken from a poem by Rudyard Kipling and set to music by an American gentleman rejoicing in the improbable-sounding name of Oley Speaks.
@@Krzyszczynski so noel coward only sang that song with the rich baritone of his ok that happens in the world of music its still his performance that is memorable.
I'm in my 30's and fancied a bit of radio 4 in the car, 1 in 3 or 4 pieces seemed to include the current propaganda. There's an awful lot about 'black people', whatever that monolith is. Very little about any other ethnic minority, it's not very diverse at all.
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I honestly think at this point they don't know how to do anything else.
@@frenne_dilley Yeah, I do, sometimes you just want something a little lighter without much thought
The BBC news site recently had a story that trans med should be proud of their periods. I fell off of my chair I laughed so much. They made it impossible to satirise. They regularly have trans and black stories representing three per cent of the population. Do they have stories relating to old people (20+ % of the population)? Of course not.
@@frenne_dilley temperature
"They don't really have the knowledge." A polite way of saying pretty much everything has been dumbed down. Way down.
NC was a sublime humourist, for goodness sake!
On the contrary, I'm immensely proud of our past Empire. There must have been something good to have so many of the former colonies trying to emulate us and clamber to return to the mother country.
Spot on!!
I’d gone to Nigeria to repair a machine, at a heliport I was the only white guy and called over to the desk by the security chap who looked at my passport and boomed out “ah, British, our former colonial masters”, I though bloody hell where is this going, then he gave a big smile and asked to shake my hand saying “welcome to Nigeria”. Only trouble I’ve ever had was in South America when people thought I was American, when I pointed out I was English, everything was fine.
@@alastairmcmurray4873 Same with me when I spent a few months in India. I actually got preferential treatment when using the trains. On more than one occasion I was invited to wait for my train in the station masters office instead of on the platform with crowds of people
The British Empire ,for all its faults which were not many, was the best thing that happened to the world. The shame is that it ended too soon.
@@alastairmcmurray4873 Why doesn't that surprise me?!
Shows you how ignorant these people are when they think Coward's 'Mad Dogs and Englishmen' is colonialist when it's actually something they might want, satirising it.
I listened to the Today programme and also BBC world service …anybody remember Alister Cooks “Letter from American” It was all great then …I never switch it on now ……sad because I listened to it from being 7 years old.
The songs we were taught in school in the '60s (including some jolly seafaring ones with a Caribbean flavour) would have the BBC frothing at the mouth. I have a feeling that some of these were sung along to radio programmes broadcast by a certain corporation. I'll do some checking and, if that turns out to be the case, will expect the woke hordes to tear the BBC down and throw it in the river.
Anyone who has or takes a wage from the BBC is scum of the earth!
Including the likes of Orwell and Churchill?
@@vespelian everyone from cleaners to directors!
Disagree. Take their money, better us than some leftists. Opportunities abound for mistakes and go slows. They took over our institutions, let's learn some lessons and take them back.
Moi aussi??! The BBC wasn't like this decades ago. It was more or less the opposite. A bastion of Britishness. Still, it was chok full of massive egos and petty dictators. The media attracts exactly those sorts, the politics is just an add on.
@@callumbush1Such lofty approbation. Your virtue and contribution to the commonweal of humanity must Indeed be immense. One can only but be in awe of your undoubted hollines.
Reject the BBC .
This just about sums up all that is wrong with these ridiculous new rules. Totally mad!
Oddly enough, dear old, sad old, Auntie BBC will no doubt double ban the song. Not only does it reference the Empire and colonialism, it also suggests that you can go out in hot weather without bursting into flames.
Crazy isn't it, the whole song is along the lines of "Sensible people who live there do this, but Englishmen (and other mad dogs) do something really inappropriate, unwise or generally stupid." - it riduclues us and trying to maintain our curious ways in a climate where it's really not such a great idea. I live in SE Asia and the ex-pats here behave exactly that way, while the locals chuckle at us in bemusement.
While they’re at it, they had better do a clean sweep of all BBC comedy from its inception until the present State of Cringe. While they’re at it, perhaps remove the “British” designation from BBC. Just call it The Corporation. Or perhaps, just “The” to be safe. Because there is no,end to this movement of erasure.
I've listened to mad dogs and Englishmen more since the bbcs decision. Same for Nina Simone.
The UK is a white country. And yet colonialists from other countries in Africa and Asia come here and dictate what we say and do.
No colonialism only works one way as with most things these days.
I'm 72, I don't own a TV, don't pay the disgraced BBC a penny. As Jordan Peterson said 'RUclips will be the death of TV', and it does me fine.
Mate if you are 72 and can't see that the censorship and propaganda on You Tube is worse than the BBC and content increasingly even blander, that's really rather sad.
@@theblytonian3906 I wonder, I often listen to audiobooks which the woke BBC would look on with horror. Look around RUclips.
@@mavisemberson8737 Not as bad as the BBC, ITV or Ch4 yet, give it time. It's a creeping phenomenon. Apparently you don't listen to critical audiobooks contrary to the narrative. Cancel culture is alive and well here on You Tube content and the comments section.
I live in Amerika. I do not watch network television because its vapid content is insulting to the thinking person.
I quite enjoy listening to old comedies on Radio 4 Extra; but the BBC often prefaces them with a limp apology for ‘the humour and attitudes of the time.’ I wonder how long it will be before today’s programmes, if they bother to recycle them, are shamefacedly apologised for, for being insufferably woke and misleading.
I so seriously do not want the BBC to tell me what it is safe for me to hear or see.
Beyond patronising.
Are we going to hear the song and suddenly yearn to rebuild an empire?
And even if we were, how far would we get?
The BBC should be required to remove the first B from their name for cancelling Noel Coward...
Why? Doesn't it stand for Bolshevik Brainwashing Commissariat?
Will someone for God's sake shut this hateful institution down. Time to purge the institutions and universities and get back to teaching proper subjects to not excuses for pedalling ideology
Yes, please.
Radio 4 was always my favourite station by far. Absolutely brilliant. Loved it all my life. Getting too wishy washy now. People now have no intellect.The BBC used to be the one place all countries listened to in order to hear the truth. No longer. I stopped trusting it when it told me how to think.
“…So I gave in.”
Defund the BBC 💪
All the ducks in a row
2.2.22
Just one chicken out of the row. Hidden in vancouver
🐤🐤🐤🐤Everything counts in large amounts
Rain is millions of drops falling together
Let's rain on Justin trudeau 's msm parade
Let's not be beastly to the BBC
" For they really are a decent bunch of chaps "
Wokewashed - brilliant!
BBC circling the drain of degeneracy.
Don't you just love being forced to pay for the BBC? What a great institution...
Most stand up comedians are foul mouthed have near zero wit, innuendo & etc
This is ridiculous! Boo on the BBC
I wonder if it was the atttitudes of an earlier generation of such BBC types that Coward was satirising in his song "Don't let's be beastly to the Germans."
He needs to name names
BBC it’s time to go
We have to remember that culture zealots, do not understand humour. They come with pitchforks and prayer.
I will sing this song at every opportunity
Time that the BBC was cancelled for anti British virtue signalling!!
Current programmes also have "language and attitudes of the period". I cancelled my licence fee after hearing that insulting phrase once too often.
I guess today's unemployed college students have to justify all that money they spent on tuition.
I think the problem with the song is it calls the South East Asian “Natives” as “Simple Minded” and it uses the terms “White Men” and “English Men” interchangeably.
Very interesting.
I’m so sorry he gave in. If everyone quits, ‘it’ will have won.
So, is this a homophobic act? 🤣
I think the British should start showing some national pride, like they used to. Nothing to be ashamed of, like in most countries around the world. Where else on this planet can you live without being pressured to; learn and speak the language, culture, study UK history, use 'please' and 'thank you' and more recently, be passed over in employment for being indigenous , etc...
Well BRITISHBC is a misnomer, isn't it? Whoever's in charge neither knows nor understands us.
P.S: "Mad Dogs . . ." is one of my favorite lyrics. I learned it while in my teens (in '50s) and still remember it.
👍👏
There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so, as Shakespeare said, with his concise representation of part of stoic philosophy. These people are well described as emotional haemophiliacs. Taking offence is the first refuge of those with weak arguments.
English men will never fight back, not like old times
B*ll*x to that!
Break up the bbc NOW!
Sometimes we should lighten up! Don't try so hard to feel insulted. Don't abandon your sense of humor. The citizens/residents of places mentioned in the humorous song are not so very thin skinned! Is the average person unable to determine the difference between humor and insult? I hope NOT.
The wokesters keep uping their ludicrousness - it's quite impressive.
In times of stress, there’s much to be said for wu wei, “action through non-action”. I can easily imagine my school masters commenting, “Yes, we are well aware that that is your attitude, Verney”. Indeed, there are many situations in life where “action through non-action” is not the right response. But still, I strongly question western values. Noel Coward’s immortal song ‘Mad Dogs and Englishmen’ has even been cancelled by the hated BBC for “colonial attitudes”. This is absurd because his song is packed with self-mockery and tongue in cheek irony, praising the attitude of indigenous peoples the world over in contrast to the madness of the colonial Europeans. And by the way, pythons do romp in mangrove swamps. Coward obviously checked his facts.
The BBC should be defunded.Why the public should pay for a corporation that doesn't represent them is beyond me!
Yes, Coward calling natives "simple creatures" and other terms are a bit dated and reflect an imperious attitude, but that was the time it was made in. He still was primarily parodying the British for their own rigidities and inflexibilities. Sounds like the BBC can't trust the listener to discern that this was from a different time, a different era and a different world.
R.I.P. England.
Never!
BBC TV is so crap and irrelevant nowadays, I never watch it.
Don't let's be beastly to the bbc.
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS I WISH THE GOVERNMENT WOULD CANCEL THE SO-CALLED BBC.
It reflects colonial attitudes of the british are as crazy as mad dogs. Lets be honest, all people are in agreement
To be honest, I could not give a fig about what the BBC is or is not doing! I don't listen or watch anything that is put out by the BBC. I boycott them completely! I prefer to watch 'The New Culture Forum'. 😁
So we cannot display our own stupidity should it possibly, and not of course, upset some imaginary audience. So wrong and as Peter says : alienating.
It's a shame he has to blame it on the Black Lives Matter campaign.
“Radio 4 has become so right on that I don’t like it” Oddly enough I stopped listening to R4 a year or two ago as I got sick of woke ‘comedy’ and the patronising right on attitude. I use to love it despite its faults. Now you can’t see the joins between the faults.
Quite, I've taken to listening to old episodes of the classic panel shows from a time when playful use of the English language wasn't something people criticise you for. Try being playful with language on reddit, say, and you are badmouthed for 'trying to be clever', no, not at all, I'm just using the glory and deliciousness of English language to the extent to which I am able.
@ Leif Goodwin: not so much “right on” as ‘left on’. As for me, I no longer turn it on! 😉
Is the BBC EVER GOING TO BREAK OUT OF THE VICTORIAN MOULD?
Stopped listening to radio 4 exactly for this reason
Really Ha,Ha,..
Very sad that people are not allowed to have a sense of humour anymore. In any case Noel Coward was poking fun at the English in this song - THEY HAVEN'T EVEN UNDERSTOOD IT!!!
Airtight evidence they don't even think anything through!!
Familiar with the expression Tempest in a Teapot?
Really ?? ?Ha! Ha!
I think it was a poorly chosen line. Somebody who hears those few words out of context could easily find it offensive. There are other lines from the song that could have been quoted safely.
In the Philippines they have lovely screens
To protect you from the glare
would have been a good choice. Or:
In the Malay States there are hats like plates
Which the Britishers won't wear
It is a song praising the attitudes of Colonial people in so far as they have far too much intelligence to go out in the midday sum. May we now get on with life and stop dredging into the past and over and finitely examining all this crap. I for one am hugely proud of our colonial past and without exception; none of those countries that were part of the British Empire would have the level of success and position in the world they enjoy today.
It's a song that mocks the British for their insistence on going out into the hot sun when everyone else understands it's not a good idea. Also, it mentions regions that were not British colonies - the Philippines, Argentina, and Thailand. So it can't really be considered propaganda for the British empire in any meaningful sense. Cancel culture doesn't quite understand how much credibility they lose when they go after things as innocuous as this.
Don't care. I cancelled the BBC fifteen years ago, when I finally switched off Radio 4 for the last time (already got rid of my TV thirty years ago). Good riddance to it.
How silly the BBC have become, this is desperately sad!
You ignore history at your peril. Teach the bloody blighters who we all were, get over it and get on with it.
The wokes won't like this song. I think the woke establishment is very funny, worth making fun of.
It's up the the English what they want to do with their own culture. It's their culture and people should worry about the history of their own culture. Blacks shouldn't sell crack.
PLEASE....give us a major break from all this academic Wokery!!
Thank god someone has some sense at the BBC, time to move on from old racist attitudes.
The same on RUclips with the song "Civilization" from Danny Kaye and the Andrews Sisters. Suddenly you couldn't find the song on RUclips. Later came back.