I will never forget my art teacher telling me that saying talent as a compliment is basically a slap in the face. That's why I always complement people on their skill or the work they've put in, rather than their "talent."
This is what I've been saying for years.. saying talent as a compliment IS a slap in the face! It undermines all the hard work the person went through to perfect their craft. Basically saying their mastery was only due to something else rather than their blood sweat and tears. The only way it works, I feel, is for a beginner where talent can actually be a factor but as they go further into their career and their proficiency is clearly at a higher level its stops being due to that.
Yes! Whether its because of their talent or not, it is best and ( well probably prefered or even more good ) to compliment the person on their hard work. They did their best and did great on what they were doing so complimenting them on their work they did is better.
Yooo people who think like me!!! I study figure drawing but I'm not talented as an artist I spent years growing good draftsmanship and even more years practicing technique's before I could get started with anatomy, unlike talented artists
omg same!! i read this book called "mindset" by carol dweck a few weeks back and it said the same thing- instead of complimenting people on their talent, its better to compliment on hard work. prodigies are prodigies simply because they've doing their thing since a young age and are now better at this than those who recently started!!
I agree, also "smart" is one of them too. I worked my ass off to get straight A's (used to be a straight F/1.8 GPA student) and I am annoyed when people say how smart I am, when in fact I have adhd and dyslexia so I spend 15 hours studying a stupid math problem until I get it. I really appreciate how you explain this to people to spread awareness
I just tell people I work hard, I'm not smart. they brush it off and I accept it. I got tired of bothering but I still say that one statement. so when they see what I meant, and they try to say some stupid crap to me, I remind them of my warning. I'm not some amazing genius and I don't need that pressure. it messes with ya.
I agree with what you said, I have ADHD as well, but both of those disabilities have nothing to do with intelligence. It’s possible you are quite “smart”, the difference is like you said that’s not where your success came from. It was your extra hard work to get good grades despite your disadvantages
@@ayocarrot8844 People usually see "smart" and "intelligent" as the same thing. You may think there's a difference but who uses those terms differently?
Oh absolutely! In this instance I was talking about art specifically, but there's a large openness to interpretation with these issues across the board, it effects many people in so many different ways, ty for watching :')
@@linesinmotion This video really hit me different as an aspiring software developer. Seeing the amazing applications people have created by themselves always leaves me in awe, especially since I understand how much time you have to put into coding just to understand certain concepts. To put those concepts to use in a properly functioning program is insane. I think artists and programmers both have that 'talent' stigma around them.
My little sister is ridiculously good at art for her age. Constantly I hear her being praised for her talent and her gift, but I saw her drawing daily before she got to that level. It's her dedication I praise her for. Talent is just Passion + Practice, that's something I didn't realize for a long time, but I think everyone should know. Your ability is due to your hard work and dedication to it, and with enough dedication you can develop any skill, even one that seems so far out of your reach.
BS. I kicked ass at computer programming when I was a kid (got paid for it at 13). Yes I put in some work but that was because I already had the talent that gave me the motivation. There is a reason why your sister took up art and not, say, programming at a young age. It's because that's what she's talented at.
@@viharsarok yo, what are you tryna say? Your comment seems like it makes sense but when you really think about it, it doesn’t- Sorry I forgot to finish my comment so it made no sense
@@viharsarok there is an argument to be made that we naturally gravitate towards things we find easy, but it is by no means a global one. Satoru Iwata said Talent is just refining something forever and enjoying and enduring the process of doing so - he had sit down meetings every year with every single person at Nintendo HQ. I think he's more qualified to speak on it than you or I, and hey, he was probably a more "talented" programmer than you too.
@@FrecklesOpenMic If that were true there wouldn't be 8 year old chess prodigies who can beat 60 year old club players with ease. The 60 year old club players have been refining their playing for a much longer time, even in terms of hours put in. Talent is a thing and it's more important than effort, especially in the higher echelons of performance.
@@ansatsu4020 Great to hear the efforts. And now that you've mentioned about art skills so if you want to learn more I know a channel called *Art Prof* wherr they discuss about arts and that now they even given free videos for artist's curiculum to draw. That's just my recommendation though. Anyway, keep drawing.
To be very honest, this manga saved me from falling into the abyss. Though art and design are 2 different spectrums where sometimes they connect, it's really hard to push forward being a designer. Constantly thinking of creative solutions often leads me to burnout. What I was lacking in my life was motivation and like the art teacher rightly said in the manga "Kids who don't have passion for something, they won't be motivated". This struck a chord and it really helped me get out of the dark room.
I know it is year since your comment but I want to say sth too. I love design new and new characters and "breaking rules" e.g. calm character with red addons or angry with blue. I have a lot of characters which I deeply love but the hardest part is to draw/color them. I had so many breakdowns because of it. The shading adds so much to the style or outfit but I can't do it better. I still struggle to find my style (sth like anime but not that shiny like most of art I see nowdays). I know it is pretty chaotic but I can relate so badly 😭
@@annamichacz1534 my instinct seeing a comment like this is to try and help you with the things you listed as a struggle but really i think its best to say it is hard but the fact that your pushing forward, and the fact you truly deeply desire to get better is all you need to get to that point and i hope to encourage and congratulate you for all your hard work so far and to come! ^^
talent compliments can sometimes also be like, "oh youre so talented, i could never" which puts the artist in a position of having to comfort the other person for not having that skill.
Oh no, I love when I get that, I think it's a great oportunity to say "Hey! That's not true, everyone could do it if they put hard work on it." "Nah, you can do it! but you need to actually start, somewhere" "Do you think I was born painting instead of crying to the doctor? Nah, I also used to think I could never do this". And then they get motivated and understand inmediately that "talented" is not actually what I am.
@@Procrastinacion_ but you see that in this situation, you're put in the place of having to care for the emotions of the complimenter, instead of being able to be happy for yourself? i, too, like it when i can make someone feel better about themselves and i also often react this way to such comments, but i still think that if you want to make an artist feel good about their work, putting yourself down is not the way to do it... yeah.
well i have been sketching irregularly since i was 8 years old. although i was irregular i.e only drew when i wanted but i definitely gave it much much more time than others around me. my father also draws really good .so when i mentioned this fact while showing my fanart to my friends. they ignorantly said you are so lucky this is in your genetics . just like the person in this video said this was their way of complementing but it did feel as if i just used a skill passed down to me.
I remember I was doing an academic drawing of Apollo's head and I just couldn't get to capture his character's shapes right, I thought that I should ask to leave the class for today, but then I felt like that would be slacking and I stayed. That was one of the worst decisions of my life. I feel everyone watching me and seeing that what I draw looks awful I held my tears all that time in class. Just as I left the school a bursted into tears and couldn't stop no matter how hard I tried. My face gets really red when I cry, so I took 1 hour walk home instead of bus. If 5 years ago someone would say that it happened to me I wouldn't believe them. I redid that Apollo's head next time it looked much better but I think that's not the best of me. Every time I hear word talent towards my works I think I'd cry remembering all the hours I spent drawing and scraping my art. Blue period will always has a special place in my heart. Thank you for that amazing video and sorry for venting.
Man I can relate to that. I was in a drawing class one time and felt terrible because there was this girl who was so good the teacher told her she was too good and he moved her to the advanced class. Her stuff blew me away and I was on edge from then on. Everyone else in the class was real friendly but man I felt like it was pressure central and wanted to quit from how stressful I perceived it was. It ended up working out though but that was a rough learning experience.
This manga... is so realistic. I understand the MC and relate to it so much bcs I also studied STEM in highschool. I was considered as a "smart" student. I have been doing art since I was in middle school as a hobby I enjoy. So, as a senior year student, the thought of enrolling to art school crossed my mind. But people around me said: "You are smart, you should be a doctor and study medicine. Studying art is not worth your time. You are going to be jobless. Plus it's expensive. Don't you think it'll be a waste? Studying medicine is better." But at the end, I applied to an art school and got accepted last month. However, this didn't end my anxiety. Because studying art and doing it as a hobby, it's really different. Doing art for hobby is all fun. You just... doing it for yourself when you are bored. But studying it? It really gave me more pressure as I found myself (who usually being the best one in STEM subject) being at the bottom. This situation made me compare myself to others. I envy those with "talent"... I struggled so much. Reading this manga made me realize I shouldn't cry about being "talentless" and I should practice harder! Also thank you for your video and analysis. It's good!!! 😭😭🥰 (Edit: Thank you for the heart-warming replies. I didn't expect my story got so many likes. A little update on my journey. I actually applied to 2 universities. One with art major and one with communication. And I suprisingly got accepted in both (Art first and the the communication). Since the communication major one is more cheap and considering that I love it too as much as I love art, I sadly decided to drop the art major off. But I'm still as passionate doing art and still dreaming of being a professional artist! Enrolled into art school or not, this video is still so impactful for me! 🥺❤️)
This is gonna be me. I was in my second year of chemical engineering and dropped it to now enter the world of design and more artistic studies things I have never studied in my life I always studied sciences and maths. So now I am studying for an exam I never had I am trying. I feel so insecure. I will struggle so much. Gosh. Why am I going on this path it just feels more rigth! I can't think too far ahead or I will think I'm not good enough and chicken out. I will foccus short term and try my best! Good luck on your journey!
May I ask? Do it really lead somewhere, you do what you like , but ,you need good grades to go to art school. Like I’m failing French school with 11.62 this year I’m going nowhere we are graded on 20.00 points. Plus our 3 hours of sleep having 3hours of homework, and doing 8am to 6pm we can’t stay healthy with studying that much I like arts, but French school have too high expectations for their students im getting nowhere I’m only being good in English and art class even if my working
It’s why blue period holds such a dear place in my heart, as a med student (primarily dealing with stem and requires lots of studying) who loves art like writing and drawing. All those requires hard work and willingness to improve yourself, sometimes making a fool of yourself to learn things you aren’t familiar with. It’s why i relate to yatora and many characters in blue period, their struggles are so real and it motivates me to do better as a student and to make stories that i and other people can see themselves in my own approach. (This video also introduces me to blue period and witch hat atelier a year ago, so thank you so much for making this video!)
Fellow med student who also loves to draw and write. Agree with everything you say. Competence in a domain requieres so much hard work that a lot of people overlook.
Hey just for fun but do you know who else started from meds and ended up as a great artist? It's Osamu Tezuka, and his medical knowledge has helped him greatly in writing Black Jack 😂
My partners mother said I was “talented” in the sense that I was born with the ability to just draw. When I told her that no, I was not and put in years and years of work and studying, she completely brushed off what I said and said, “You still have to have the natural born gift.” No. No one is just gifted the ability to draw. Everyone can draw. It is a skill that requires a lot of patience, studying, practice, and most importantly, time. Yeah, some learn faster than others, but anyone can reach master level of drawing if they put in the time to do so. I honestly hate the word talented. I have had so many people say it to me while brushing off my hard work. I wasn’t like a lot of artists who say they were always drawing. I didn’t start drawing until I was 12. It never interested me until a friend of mine who was younger than me came into my life and she was so good and made a lot of comics that it inspired me to want to do the same. At that time, I could only draw stick people. Now I can do photo realism along with my own stylized art style. So, when people brush off my hard work as something I was “born with”, it really bothers me. Another thing that bothers me are people who say realism doesn’t require as much skill as stylized art… Most people that I see that can do stylized art can’t do realism that well. They both require different appearances when drawing, painting, or whatever. Realism I find much harder and much more time consuming than stylized art any day.
Holy crap yea I 100% agree with you. It annoys me when people say I’m talented, but I don’t wanna correct them and come off as up myself or anything like that. I’ve never actually heard the argument ‘realism doesn’t take much skill’, i’ve always heard the argument stylised art doesn’t take as much effort. It’s bullshit though, cuz for every person it’s different, and it’s really hard to compare the two, like it is comparing digital and traditional art. For me personally I find realism easier, but hey that’s different for each person.
"Yeah, some learn faster than others", then, what is your opinion about being 'gifted' or 'with talent' if it not means level of mastery but instead time to reach that mastery is shorter than other people with equal amount of effort. People often said "Wow, you are so talented, I could never do that" for something that seems unattainable, primarily in School, you are being given around 18 year to reach a certain level of mastery, thus 'talent' do contribute in you reaching that amount of mastery in a limited amount of time, thus people are envious about it since they do the same but cannot reach that level of mastery you have, and this cannot be changed no matter how many effort you do. I am kinda irritated of people who says they aren't talented and they just work hard yet still get good achievement like you tried to looks humble but it ends up mocking others' effort like the sole reason people cannot get good achievement is because they don't do the same amount of effort as you.
@@leafaldehyde6251 I feel like people *think* the word talented means ‘naturally gifted’ or something along those lines, which I do not agree people are *completely* naturally gifted in most cases, and their work is a result of hours of learning and hard work. I definitely agree and also see talent as more of how long it takes for someone to learn something - how long it takes for something to just click in their brain. I do agree some people just get things and things just click for them easier than for other people, however, you can only get so far with talent, and need to actually put effort in, in order to get better at some point. So yea I see talent as how long it takes for someone to learn something rather than them being naturally born with the ability to do something, and find the compliment of being talented a bit irritating when people mean it as a ‘you’re naturally gifted’ and fail to see the hours of work I’ve put into improving my skills.
@@neom0on Well, I get that, I often in that position, it just that those high-skilled people often tries to throw 'talent' out of equation leaving only only hard work as the only ingredient for mastery, like "you can do it to if you work hard like me"(like I don't work hard before) and indirectly says those who don't have mastery don't work hard. I just wish they acknowledge that they have talent to a certain extent rather than just "This is the result of my hard work (alone)"
@@neom0on I think I get it, those who is 'apparently' not talented has the tendency of throwing out 'hard work' from the equation of the 'high-skilled' person maybe because they don't want to feel awful (admit that they don't work hard) while the 'apparently' talented (high-skilled) person throwing out 'talent' from equation also because they don't want to feel awful (admit that it is not completely hard work or admit that they are gifted (learn faster) and this is luck (because we cannot choose))
I really like art. Ever since I was young I have always been attracted to lines and colours. I have also been complimented by teachers and friends that I am talented in art and has the tendency to pick up things more quickly than my peers. However, I was also born in an Asian country to a set of a conservative family. Every time I came home with an excitement to showcase my art, a little part of me always died whenever my family brushed aside my works with complimentary dismissal words such as “That’s very nice but you don’t have to bring your artwork home, it clutters our home.” to sometimes straight dismissal of “waste of space”. However, I was still allowed to buy art supplies and create them, just if I give the piece away afterwards or discard them. So, the notion of an artwork always have to have purpose to other people or its useless has begun to grow by then. But still, there was this sweet dream that one day I could become an artist and create art for a living, that I never told my parents for they wanted me to go through stereotypical “safe” jobs. But then my brother went to uni to major in photography which is a closely related major to art and I thought “will my dream be able to come true?” But years passed and he graduated but eventually did not work in art related job. My parents started arguing and the financial strain from my brother’s private art uni tuition fee is evident on our family’s economy. So I started high school with pressure from my parents that again art is not a stable major and it is useless to pursue my talent there and to keep my grades stellar instead. I knew at that point that my parents would never allow me to pursue art related majors, but i still dreamed. I started doing volunteer photographic and digital designing in my local youth community as an outlet for my passion. My parents were okay with it as long as it is a hobby, so I pushed myself to the limits creating works and arts. Then my high school graduation was looming and I had to choose a major for uni. I had debated architecture, graphic design, interior design, multimedia arts, and other artsy majors that doesn’t really screams pure art as a way to soften the impacts to my parents. But in the end my plans never succeeded and I had to settle for studying to become a biomedical scientist, a STEM major. I still haven’t been able to fully put down my attachment to art so I dedicated 18 kg of my baggage for my art supplies. It is sad that the only times I ever used them is to take study notes and to make greeting cards as my mindset of creating purposeful art is very hard to change. I cried reading blue period and my youtube history is full of art related videos for a future that I wasn’t allowed to dream of. I am sad to see my “artistic talent” dwindling down to being just an “aesthetic” person. But this is my choice and I felt like I have betrayed my “talents” and myself. Your video truly hits home and as a person who gave up on arts I just hope that there are other people that are stronger than me and does not give up due to social pressure. Sorry for the unnecessary life ramblings and story. I just wanted somewhere to pour my regrets and lingering feelings.
My friend, your life is not over yet. You can learn to appreciate what you create, even if it will be hard. And even if not a full time job, you can still enjoy it however you choose. You can learn at home, not all professional artists went through formal art education- that's the beauty of art, there's not one right path to it. I hope you'll be able to find your joy again, I can see you're still holding it somewhere in you. I believe in you, you can get there
I graduated with a BS in Software Engineering in 2019. I also had Asian parents who discouraged me from pursuing the arts. I really liked drawing since a kid and anime and cartoons. I am financially independent and live on my own. When the pandemic begin, I committed to attending a local art studio to study fundamentals. I learned to use charcoal, water color, gouache, oil paint, and have moved on to digital art. Last year my art teacher gave me the opportunity to substitute teach his classes. I love it. This summer I will be running workshops at his studio. Last November, I decided to make prints and stickers with two of my best friends and sell my art at events. We made $600 at the last event, $300 at the most recent one. I am taking a few classes online at Brainstorm School which is taught by a lot of industry professionals. I got laid off at my tech job last month, so I’m fully concentrating on art until I find another job. I’m considering learning to be a tattoo artist. I’m also going to try doing this illustration gig which will pay $680 per illustration. My friend, the journey doesn’t have to end, it might just be on a pause. As long as your heart wills it, art will find a way back in to your life and you will find a way back into art. Do what you need to do to survive. There’s nothing wrong with that. That doesn’t mean you have to give up your passion.
I'm not from an Asian househould, I'm from Russian but we have a lot of common things. My mother, when she was a child, wanted to seriously go into art and she even attended some art school in her hometown but my grandparents quickly cut it off and didn't allow her to buy art supplies cause they prefered more to spend their money on their elder son than on their younger daughter. And because of this, mother has very two-faced views on art: she sometimes supported me and even bought me art supplies but at the same time, she always said that "art is not serious, art is just a hobby, you cannot fully survive in Russia on art" (unfortunate truth, since many Russians treat artists like a garbage and artists are very underpaid there). And, "you should choose more serious job to make money". I also want to say that my mother is very narcissistic and she forced me to attend college I despised with all my heart, threatening me if I didn't want to go there, which killed my will to do anything and my symptoms of depression got even worse so I don't do anything serious besides 1-time sketch per month. I also don't know will I ever come back to art. My situation is much lighter than yours but it's still not good. I'm not interested in being a mother but if I had a kid, I would allow them to have any hobby they want, especially if my finances would allow that.
"talent is basically how fast you can learn or understand something, it doesn't determent your hard work" my 2nd year high-school math teacher Mr.Abraham
I started crying when I saw the panel which said "Writing off the thing you love as just a hobby sounds like something only grown-ups would do..." Made me realize this is exactly what I was doing when I chose my university and major despite being an arts student my whole life. When I moved to academics I performed will but I lost all my artistic expression over the following years. It's very sad to look back on now and I encourage my own students to follow their passions as far as they can.
I'm tearing up because that hit so close to home. Imma just share some shit even tho no one's asking lmao. As a child, I've always found STEM subjects simple and quite robotic. "As long as you remember the method and put the effort to remembering them, you'll find yourself in a situation where life is just as simple and robotic" was my mindset all my life. I never had bad grades because of this, but my way of living that time was pretty monotone to say the least, like it wasn't sad, but it wasn't particularly happy as well. I mean, I was able to watch anime, read books, or maybe even draw random sketches, but all of them were just hobbies of mine and none of those were things i was passionate about. I guess, until I heard a certain pianist moved me through his playing. I was ashamed for even thinking of *crying*, because "why the hell would i cry over a random piece?". After thinking about it, I realized that playing the piano is something I wanna do with my life. From that moment on, I worked to achieve skills and technique I never had. At this point, I'm so fucking frustrated about my lack of "talent" and I'd usually summarize it as "It's because you have no talent that you can't do it" but ohoho, how wrong I was. I'm still bad af, but I know that practice takes hard work. Plus, I know that I'd have to give it up eventually since I'm at least aware that I need to face reality soon enough.
This is such a lovely and saddening comment at the same time, thank you for sharing. I absolutely LOVE the piano, can't play it myself (i was more of a keyboard player back in the day), but hearing you tear up over hearing the pianist play is so touching, and not anything to be shameful of at all! It's so nice to hear you're taking on the piano despite the challenges you come across, i'm confident that if you carry that up, you'll be amazing in no time! Some practise is better than no practise at all, as they say! I don't think there's any reason to give it up, keep going!! 🎹🎹🎹
Sorry, but no. STEM is hard for me. Anything is hard if you dont have the passion and dont like or hate the subjects. For me, drawing IS HARDER than biology and chemistry. My grades aren't that good in chemistry, but pretty good in biology. Well, I'm a psychology student and i kind of share the same struggle with artists. In the place where i live, people often underestimate mental health (an aspect of psychology) and many believe that mental illness doesn't exist. They also think that studying psychology is a waste of time and effort and will not land you decent salary I was kinda glad that my parents werent so skeptical with my decision to pursue psychology. Honestly though, i didn't really know what i wanted to do so i chose psychology. Even now, I'm still not sure what is my true passion, but what i know is i don't resent myself for choosing it :) Thank you for reading my story
@@warhammer8230 Ah, if my comment was offensive in any way, I deeply apologize. Your story was really heartwarming to say the least, and I'm genuinely happy that you don't resent yourself or your choices :D Idk, to say that mental illnesses don't exist because it's "just in your head" is like saying that asthma doesn't exist because it's "just in your lungs" (???) But I do believe that the reason why peeps generally don't believe in mental health problems is because it usually isn't something they see or notice in others. Although, hearing it from a someone studying psychology makes it more "real" if you know what I mean.
I have quite a similar experience. I had always enjoyed art since I was little, sometimes I would just stop and stare at something, beautiful sculpture, painting, art... The beauty in them struck me. I drew every day, wanting to be better and better. But as I grew up, I realized I was good at STEM subjects in school, I could have a sought-after career out of it. I decided to put away my sketchbook and art supplies, not touching it for years. But one day, I saw my dusty sketchbook, and I was stung by nostalgia. Before I knew it, I had cracked it open and drew again. It had hit me hard how much I missed drawing. Of course, I had to be realistic, so I put back my sketchbook, thinking I'd have a stable main job and draw as a hobby. But when the time came for me to choose my career, I ended up choosing to major in art-related course. Turned out I liked art too much to simply do it as a hobby. Of course, whatever path you choose, either to continue your passion to the side or make it your livelihood, you have my utmost respect. Just be sure the career you choose is what you actually want, and not because of hold-ups and expectation of what a good career should be.
This is why representation in the art community is so important, so many of us didn’t even realize that these struggles are normal, because people dismissed our hard work for talent, so much to the point that we believed it
Maybe for others this might be another manga analysis with insane effort put into editing and framing with perfection but for Artist this is going to hit too close to home perhaps too close to give cathartic experience. I'm definitely reading this asap.
I think the manga in general will be a big emotional ride for artists, you can tell the mangaka really went through her own challenges - if this story is anything to go by. Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope you enjoy the manga!
I relate to this because I’m 16 and people always ask me how I’m so talented at drawing and I say “I’ve been practicing since I was in kindergarten for hours and hours”, and I feel like all of the hard work I did really paid off
As an animator and an animation student, this really hits home. People don't really see on how much an artist puts into one piece of artwork or 5 seconds of an animation frames. It's the little things that normal people don't usually see unless explained or studied. It's really sad that art doesn't get the credit that it deserves most of the time. This video really shows how littlest details and hours to years of hard work make a huge difference. I myself is struggling to even animate, like making a character move it's limbs or doing something that a normal camera can't do and its frustrating to animate a project that you can't finish earlier than you want it to. I've experienced loosing motivation because of people who are better at animating and even younger than me, countless animation being produced like it's competing against each other on who's better, while I'm here making a 20 second of animation takes me like a month or more for me to finish. And yet, as stubborn as I am, I'm still doing it because I love it. I guess this is where the saying goes like "As long as you love what you do, you'll always continue to push yourself to strive for it even if it's impossible." I suppose that applies to all artists who really wants to pour all of their hard work to produce something amazing and I for one, is going to continue to do that. No matter the struggle, no matter how hard and frustrating it is, even the impossible, we can do it. I know we can. (Great video by the way, I accidentally made a reaction essay out of it HAHAH)
As someone who did Art alongside stem subjects I can tell that the amount of dedication and committed work ethic needed to do art is undermined by a lot of people.
It can be much harder than any Stem field and i'm talking about just the "drawing" aspect, i didn't even started on painting. To make an oil painting in the levels of "Lady of Shallot", it's so ineffable and seens like it's would take decades of everyday training.
This made me realize how much effort my friend, someone who’s good at art, put into her drawings. I haven’t read this manga, but I do plan to after exams lol, but I can already feel how close this will hit. Before my friend was even as good as she is today, she didn’t even how to draw anything. When we first met, I was into art as a hobby and something to do to pass the time in class, and I introduced it to her. I didn’t really need to put in the effort to draw somewhat mediocre, so she always saw me as someone better at art than her. As the years passed by, I took a more STEM and academic-based path in school. She took a more fine arts path. Everyday she always drew something new and different than the day before. Slowly I saw her art grow, but I never realized that she was always drawing something at all times. Every time she was on her phone, it was a piece of art that she liked or a new challenge to draw. Soon, very soon, she was so much more better than me. I always thought that she was just talented, but I was clearly absorbed into my own thoughts and feelings to not come to the realization that the reason why she was so much better was her effort. 1 year, 2 years, 3 years and on she never stopped drawing. I now have so much respect for the time she now puts in. Thank you for listening to me talk.
I cried to this because im such a coward for not taking the risk of choosing art, which is what's best for my happiness. Instead I chose one from the stem courses, in hopes for better job security Edit: im shifting courses. Gonna chase my dreeams!
I know how you feel. I told myself that since I was in a dark place when choosing university courses, it was the right decision for me to not pursue art, because I was afraid that I would end up hating it. I thought I would still have spare time to practice, but recently i've had less and less time to draw. Now i'm afraid i'll lose art all together, simply because I was too afraid to be classed as some kinda dropout who wasted their parents money on an art degree.
@@brondermody3409 This is just like my story. I choose an engineering major because i was afraid of losing my interest in arts if i were to do it as a job. I don't know what the future will bring but i'm sure that my passion for art is something real and different. It never goes away, the only subject i learn on a daily basis is art related things, either through youtube or by drawing/painting. I hope once save enough money, i can get closer to arts field. And i hope everyone in the same position as me can find a way for themselves to pursue their interests
This comment hits close to home, as someone who is on their senior year of hs on a STEM program, I have become more frustrated with it. I never liked it since the beginning, but is the "job security" that keeps me on it. I want to be happy, I just don't know what to do at the moment.
I relate to all the people here. I also chose engineering. I took the easy path, I was "smart" so, all I had to do was get into a decent college and get a job and that is what I'm doing. Not particularly disappointed, because I never even considered doing art full-time cause I don't know a single person who did that. It's pretty much unheard of where I live, but there are still art colleges around😆
Hey, do what you gotta do. Choose your jobs responsibly. Other people may take the leap and pursue art majors but if its not a viable option for you then its totally ok to go for something else. Maybe it was not meant to be, maybe an opportunity will arrive in the future. Just try to do your best
I think what hit me so hard with this series is that he had to choose between job security and his passion. Its a brutal truth that making it as an artist financially is far from easy. However other jobs aren't any more secure like many people think. Those doctors and lawyers deal with immense stress and insane work hours. Not to mention many health and legal risks that mean one wrong step and they lose their income. Art for many people may not lead to reliable income but it offers a lot of skills that are more flexible when it seems the world is coming down around you.
It must be the universe telling me a message and aligning things together because I'm currently reading a book about grit and this video pops up in my RUclips recommended. If anyone's curious the book is called GRIT by Angela Duckworth. It's about passion and perseverance, I also saw the Will Smith interview in the book which was mentioned in this video around 4:36 - it's crazy how everything is tied together. Great video! Thank you for posting this, I'll definitely consider giving this manga a read.
I was caught off-guard when the MC's academic prowess was mentioned because I haven't read the manga or watched the series. I just assumed he grew up making art, but as someone who started getting into art at a fairly mature age, I feel seen. It felt bad to go from "gifted child" to "artist" when I wasn't a young child anymore. That hit a little close to home.
She noticed me waaaahh Great content!!! Blue Period is about to get an anime adaptation and they dubbed the manga as award-winning (that's what I've read on news, sorry for not knowing specifically the award they've received)
“ So a big thank you to those of you who have watched till the end” No, A big thank you to YOU for taking so much of your time and doing an in-depth explanation of blue period, specifically Yaguchi. You made me see the things I’ve already seen in a much deeper color. Making them hit deeper, near home. Thank you so much. You’re awesome. I hope to see more of your beautiful videos in the future.
I just found this video and it truly hits home. I am a dancer and create drawings on my free time. The word "Talent" pops up all the time and it is a little heart breaking for people to see your hard work and see it as something you were born with.
9:36 reminded me of that one awful memory I had with my mom. She said, "Stop pursuing a career in writing. Find a more secure job." And boi the trauma came back full force, now my heart aches to write more and prove that she's wrong. Everything you said is spot on and I'm definitely sharing your video to my friends who think that talent is better than hard work.
Yeah... looking back at both my old artworks and old writing pieces, they've only improved. But, they've old improved since I've spent almost every day looking at other artworks and books and taking into account just *how* the creator made the piece.
As someone who studied science and math almost most of my life and as someone who is graduating as a STEM student, finding art really is something special, specially since I planned on choosing fine arts as my course for college. I guess I can connect to yaguchi when it comes to finding someting new, refreshing and special at the same time. The first episode brought tears because persuing art when all you have done is study your whole life is pretty hard.
Aaahh why did I cry, this is so true, everything about this narration is true. The blue period really speaks for the artists' life. It does feel good when people call you "talented" but being talented is not really true, there's no such thing. Everyone can learn art and it's not "talent" you see, it's the hard work and all of those all nighters of artists who LEARN and PRACTICE art more than anyone does.
The editing is so sublime! Thrilled to see a video on this topic - it was precisely Mori-senpai's line about not being talented that made me fall in love with Blue Period. I think I gave up on art years ago because I didn't see the value in learning and putting in the hard work and was daunted by the idea of there always being "someone better than me." Blue Period has really given me a lot of food for thought - it's been a reminder of the mindset I had back in the day, but it has also inspired me to move on from those regrets and pick up a new artistic hobby. Great video, really encapsulated Blue Period's spirit!
That scene really stuck with me too, I think it does with a lot of people just because of how often that scenario happens to artist. Getting into that mindset is incredibly easy, but it's lovely to hear about you picking up a new hobby! Never too late to pick up something else! :) Thank you for watching!
I started reading this manga the same year I applied for art university and I could relate to Yatora so much it hurts. I could instantly tell that the author went through this art journey herself, because everything she portrayed was so raw, real and emotional. She's showing the side of art world that I haven't seen portrayed ever in manga/anime/maybe pop culture in general. I cried a lot while reading this, because I could relate to it on a whole different level.
I promise that whenever I'm feeling demotivated about everything, I'll rewatch this video over and over again to remind me of how I felt your message the first time I've watched this video. thank you for making this.
a year past and now youre a medstudent.youre way too burnt out and finals is 2 days from now. there's loads to study, anatomy almost killed you, neuro is coming fast with a knife. you are losing friends because you grew up, you're way past now at just romanticzing your friends misgivings. you learned that two of the most important people in your journey is draining you, jerms is manipulative, anne is stubborn and pitiful - and you've let yourself be caught between their war, but that ok cause you managed to cut yourself off from them and I'm proud of you. you're on that stage where you're ready to take the next step, you've let go of things holding you back, and youre sad, but don't look back too much. I'm proud of what we've become in a span of year. it was blood sweat tears from hereon. this is a message from youre future, and there's more to come. youre doing great, keep your chin up, always.
its that time of the year i guess. youre not fine, but you'll keep pushing on. youre not talented, youre not a hardworker either, but well try. well get through.
im here again update: youd probably fail cardio block but i hope with 2 module exams remainingh we can still push through. at this point im very afraid to be a failure, i know medicine is not for me but i am trying to be something, and im doing my best. i dont know more what to say, you now have a mech keyboard??? you already found the person youd spend your life with, the cat is getting cuter everyday and hes laying beside you on his back. i dont know, i hope im just scare, and i hope i wont betray you. i love you self. ILL BE BACK, AND I HOPE WITH SOME GOOD NEWS
This manga made me realize that even though I was blessed with "talent" nothing beats it more than hard work and perseverance, so rather than being ignorant of the fact that one is considered "good" already, one should still strive to do their best and continue growing and keep that burning passion🙌🏽
This hit me real hard. I finished highschool and I want to pursue art, animation as a Career. I love it so much. But it isn't a stable job in my country and I'm so scared. I don't like the STEM subjects as much as I like arts. And this just hit so close to home. I'm crying because I can relate. So much.
I relate so much. I really really love art and I would want to pursue it as a career. I wish I could but I have no financial stability and no art major here....
It hits so close to home sometimes. All the art student struggles. I always find myself crying with the characters because "I know how it feels!" and "I went through that, too!"
I am not an artist nor I really want to be in the future but reading this manga was still such a relatable experience for me. For me, it was the dreading preparation period for entrance exams that really hit me. The amount of effort you put into preparing for that single entrance exam and the anxiety you feel along the way was really familiar to me. The context for that in this manga might have been art but nonetheless, the feelings any student holds before entrance exams are all pretty much similar. That said, I still really enjoyed the artistic side of this manga. I always love it when I dive into the world I didn't know before and Blue Period has a really amazing depiction of the artistic world that I can't help but get captivated by it. The common misconceptions of the (Main Character) about art at the beginning of the manga was pretty much the same with me and it really was an experience when this manga proved it all otherwise. I just realized that this comment has nothing to do with the message of this video lol. I apologize, but I just really wanted to share my thoughts after being reminded of Blue Period. And dang, I just want to metion that the editing for this video is insanely beautiful.
oh no, by all means, i love seeing people who aren't into art or are an artist themselves watch this video and comment their thoughts! This video was for everyone! Whether you relate to the video, or if it teaches you a new perspective 😊 Thank you for watching!
I came upon this manga accidentally and god damn is that accident click one of the best thing that happened to me for it made me feel inspired to draw again. When i first first started drawing, my mom saw what i drew and told me how i was "talented" in drawing and just like the mc felt, i was happy that i finally found something that im passionate about. But as time goes on, i saw how other people are much more artistic and advanced compared to mine, and i felt rlly small. I told myself over and over again that I've only just began, its only normal that their art is much more advanced to mine since they did start practicing and drawinf earlier than me. But after like 2 years since i started, i slowly lost my interest in drawing. I still draw but its not like before, where im passionate and happy about it. I stopped drawing and its been almost a year since I've last drawn because i got really insecure and down about my art because no matter the effort i put into it, i just couldn't seem to draw that good. This manga made me realize lots of things like how normal it is to go through a period of time where we would feel like we've come to a stop and is just going through circles in our art. And that's what made making art rlly beautiful and special, because of the time and effort it takes just to create a piece. The dedication it takes to keep moving. And how process, growth and practice is important. I cried lots of times reading this manga and i will too in the anime version of it, I'm rlly looking forward to the anime im so excited
This is the sign that I should pursue my dream, I thought that i didn't have a dream. I always try to limit myself in spending time drawing because I'm planning to be a doctor and now I realize that this video was a sign to me and that I have a dream and I shouldn't limit myself.
I hate how the word “talent” is always just applied to creative fields like writing, music and of course art, I’m sure talent may exist in other things such as in the world of sports but besides that it’s always applied to artist “Hey your a talented artist!” “Your a talented writer” “your a talented music-“ and so on it’s so discouraging.
Thank you! And I'd love to go more into detail about shading techniques one day, there are so many techniques and I love seeing how each artist goes about it in their style!
i never defined the word talent as a natural gift. to me it was always something you're really good at. and that to me always subconsciously meant something ur good at because you worked hard at it.
I think that's the thing about the word talent, it has so many different meanings to each individual. There are some artists who aren't bothered about the word at all, and some who really dislike it. I think because of that, I can see why people try to compliment the artists skills instead, to not waver that line.
@@linesinmotion true true. I rarely use the word "talented". But i think that was always subconcious. Bit coincidental. But ye overall i do agree w ur point of: u arent born being able to do something.
Same, that's what I thought as well. So even though I now know what talent means to other artists, I would still feel honored if people called me "talented" since this is my definition. To me, the word "talent" and "skill" are basically the same. Though because of the video, I understand why some might be bothered.
I am not a painter, but I am a writer, and the struggle I face resonate a lot with artists. You get to the point that you question yourself and somehow see the futility when your hardwork don't produce any result, especially when it comes to people's interest, while also being anxious if all this time you only are able to create something because of your "talent" alone.
I’m a 2nd year art student who born with average talent’ in art. Ever since i studying in art school, I find drawing scary and it never failed to make me feel insecure. Yes, Drawing as a hobby, and drawing as a career are very different. But this manga, and the way you put it into words, makes me remember how much I love the world of art. thank you very much for the reminder.
This made me realize why I always felt what I felt when someone said, “imagine being talented in art, I can’t even draw a stick figure”. I felt kind of like my hard work wasn’t a thing and that it just came naturally to me like you said. Of course yes, I know I am naturally gifted in art but only to a certain extent- I can pretty much replicate anything I see if I work hard enough, and that’s pretty much it. Everything I draw, paint, make, I put in a lot of work in, and I think that’s the case for most artists. I know people mean well, but it still feels like a slap to the face
You can really feel the passion and effort put into this video and how perfect of an example is on this topic of hard work. Thank you for this amazing breakdown on one of my favorite manga this year!
This actually made me cry a little bit, it really hit close to home...I'm having a difficult period with my art and with what I want to do with my life and my art. Watching this video inspired me on so many different level. It made me rethink my approach to my art and my abilities in general. Thank you, thank you very much :)
As an artist myself, the only thing i can say is "Thank You". I always felt the word "talent" so discouraging, trowing away all my effors, and now you make a video about this with my favorite manga. Thanks "Lines in motion".
I do stand up, and when I’m felling talentless, I come here. I’ve watch this video more times than I can count (more the 10, I’m not saying a can’t count beyond 10,…11. see!) But this video feels like a warm place for all creative people!. Thanks
This is such a gentle topic to cover because as an artist myself who is also struggling to differentiate the idea of dedicating myself to a career in either what I want or what I feel I must do. I can't help but tear up hearing about such a relatable story all us artists go through. It's hard to push towards our hobbies because we fear they might be short-sighted because we were taught to separate our wants from our needs and find work that serves the economy. As a child born under a lesser fortunate family, I have been conditioned to put aside my passions and work towards a future I might not even want. But because I know it'll bring in the money to support the rest of us it is hard and suffocating to tell my family I still question where I stand. Growing up I have been made to believe that a passion for art won't get you far in life and that only people with the talent can make it. It's just so frustrating to hear and it hurts because like so many other artists I feel pressured to impress them with my art just so I can be taken seriously. But even that doesn't mean I will be heard because I know the fear of being judged so well from the first line I make. All I ask is to someday find courage in my art and this manga helped clear a way for that to happen. I've never cried over something like this probably because I've never seen it addressed before. I'm just so thankful that I'm not the only one feeling this way because I now know this lonely feeling doesn't truly mean I am truly alone.
Honestly, I never thought that art was a joke, if anything, it's way harder because when it comes to certain subjects, you only have a right and wrong answer, however, on the arts, everything is way more subjective and you also need to be on top of your game because that's one helluva competitive field.
I’d like to add that art isn’t just learning how to draw or paint. You have to learn so many things from very different subjects such as architecture, physics, photography, sculpting, anatomy, geography, psychology, and so much more.
This was such a great video! Thinking back on it, I think it was reading Blue Period at the end of 2020 that kind of got me motivated to try and improve my artistic abilities for the first time in years. I think you did a wonderful job crafting a video that both captures the spirit of Blue Period and feels really motivational.
Thanks Logan! And just from following you on twitter over this past year i've definitely seen progression with your art and a clear drive that you seem to be enjoying! Amazing how much just a story like this can give us the motivation we needed
this is such a well written vid. i learned from child development psych that complimenting people for simply (and only) their success is like a close minded ness thinking, not seeing or complimenting their efforts is like telling them that hard work doesn't matter and only achievement and talent do
Tysm, I found this morning after watching blue period trailer. I know this manga is so special for artist development that being struggle or new and this video already explain that. I cried.. this is what I looking for.
Ooohh, so *that's* where some people are coming from haha, but thank you, i feel bad for making you cry, but at the same time ... not? 😅 Thank you for watching and commenting :)
When I was a kid I used to love art and won competitions, but as I grew older I started to notice my family's financial situation and forced myself to start studying towards a more "realistic" career. So reading Yatora's journey into art felt too relatable to me because I was just like him but instead of chasing that passion and I was too scared of taking the risk, I didn't believe I was "talented" enough. After years of not knowing what I wanted to do with my life, years of locking up my dreams and reading this made me deconstruct what I believed about art and how to approach it. But now that I've read this, it gives me more than enough reason to pursue my dreams again.
Your video hit right at home for me. I have always loathed when people said I was talented, because of the amount of time I had put in. Also being told “that is so good, all I can draw is a stick figure”, bothers the hell out of me.
My whole thought process was put into words because of this video. Some of my classmates would say "good for you cause you're smart" and I would just say "no I just study hard". And now I am trying to venture in the world of art, and I've never felt this conflicted in my whole life. Art is something you cannot let go once you've started. I am still on the fundamentals and this is where intimidation is so heavy you might just want to give up.
I'm incredibly blessed to have this in my recommendation. As a child I've loved creating - may it be music, drawing or writing - but then I was hit by the very harsh reality that took its form from my parent's and my friend's words, that I wasn't talented enough to succeed doing anything related to the arts and humanities. . All around me, my peers would joke (and I desperate to fit in, would joke in kind) that my pursuit of the arts would eventually leave me with a lifetime of regret - desolate and homeless - and it would be better to not take that risk at all. After watching this video, I proceeded to read the manga and of course cried my eyes out when Yataro told his parents and insisted on it. It was something I could never do when I was a teen, something I thought would be a slap to the face to all my parent's hard work. So my passion for the arts gradually gathered dust in the back of my mind in favor of obtaining skills that would be useful to my profession (I'm in the medical field so studying, skills training and the occasional sleep took a huge portion of my time). . And here I am depressed and scared of picking up an artistic hobby again because I myself have gotten into the mindset that my time would be best used for something else (like learning stocks or learning about coding). I honestly never thought that this singular video and Blue Period would make me reconsider my thoughts and help me acknowledge my passion for the the liberal arts but I am so grateful for the reminder. . It's been a long time since I've last touched my paints and pencils and it's been a year since I last wrote any story on any paper or my laptop, I just might try creating again. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Every time I see really good art, I think to myself how hard they must’ve worked to get to that level, and that if I put in that much work, I too can someday (hopefully) reach their level
not an artist, but a gymnast here. i am a “good gymnast” to most, but ive worked my ass off, doing serious training 9 hours every week since i was 2. im bad at gym. ive put in so much work and im not even that good. when people that have only done it for 2 years have gotten better than me.
I would say, as someone who draw since im maybe 12 and come from nothing, u r bad in ur eyes ofc, because u still want to improve what u r doing. But in a viewer's eyes, u r good. Only because they can see something they think they will never be able to do. Maybe even those u think r better than you think they r mediocre and u r better than them. Everything is just in ur eyes. I hope that at least u love the process, because this is what matters. More than the end.
As an aspiring artists myself blue period actually shows me how much I actually have to learn and how far behind mi stills are but that actually gets me excited cause it only means I can still get better
wow, this is such a good analysis. I grew up always conscious of how I'd never be comfortable or safe or successful if I didn't get a scholarship and my first year of university, I got it, but I studied astrophysics. I love science, I love astrophys, but gosh, when I had to take my general ed english classes, they sent all my overwhelming lifelong love for words flooding back into me and I switched my major to creative writing. everyone makes fun of me for being an english major, but I love it and there are so many skill they teach you. this switch has taught me so much appreciation for all the people who follow their passions and all the creatives out there. they make the world the bright place it is. artists of all types make life meaningful and worth living.
Thank you for the explanation. It really pisses me off when people say "Oh you're so talented ,I can't even draw a stick figure". And when I reply with "You've never even tried", they sometimes reply with "I don't even want to". It feels like a SLAP on the face. You can't compare yourself with someone who actually loves drawing and works hard. PLEASE to the people who don't draw, don't say someone is talented, tell them that they are skilled and have worked hard to be where they are, that's a compliment, the one above isn't.
Super crazy relatable. I also was a stem kid who found art later, in my first year of college. 12 years later, I'm still improving and learning. I have never heard of this manga before, but definitely is on my reading list now! Thank you so much for this video, I had a great time watching it.
I love the contrast between Yotasuke and Yatora. Yatora is a hard worker while Yotasuke is a talented individual. Yatora's hardworking nature allows him to excel in different fields. Yaguchi on the other hand does not have anything other than his talent. They don't understand each other because of their differences. I love how the author handled their conflict. Their dynamic is amazing.
I had never realized how much work artists put into their art. I'm an artist myself and I had no idea. I've always seen amazing artists and assumed their talent had gotten them that far. I knew they had put work into it, but I didn't realize how much. I presume the reason I don't see how much work I've put into my own art is simply because I've never worked that hard for it. "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." All of the hours I've put into improving my art, it was all because i wanted to.
I am beyond amazed at how someone could so articulately tackle a topic often overlooked. Many people chalk artists up as "naturally artistic", "naturally talented" but there is so much more behind that. Thank you for vocalizing what other artists couldn't and weren't able to.
As an art student who is struggling with choosing a career decision in life, I find this discussion really informative and relatable In my opinion. What I find really great about this manga is that It really realistically depicts how Art can be seen In a lot of different perceptions, especially In the part where the main character realized that Art takes effort and work ethic, not just talent.
My husband and I just finished watching the anime version. I went to a fairly prestigious art school 10 years ago, whereas he has always seen art as "not for me" so wanted to understand it more. This story got me to the brink of tears over and over again. I haven't made space for art in my life recently and it's like this painful burning itch inside me. I'm desperate to pick up a brush again.
i actually stopped drawing a year ago, a few years ago i loved drawing so much that i used used to draw something everyday, i started thinking I'm not gonna be as good as other big artists who were much better than me at my age, i slowly forgot how much i loved creating my own art. But this manga gave me a new perspective, I'm picking up art again and wanna practice different forms of art. I've come to respect those crazy good artists and stopped dismissing them as "talented". I realise now that they are good in art because of the time and effort they put in
“In the end, the worth of talent as a construct is revealed as virtually useless when, in the absence of the training necessary to reveal it and the effort necessary to sustain it , Talent, if it exists at all , vanishes”. These words really made me ponder . As a person from medium class family who was said to be 'talented ' since childhood , I really related to yatora's struggle about should art stay as a hobby and nothing more as people can praise you over your art but nothing more than that . Art is not generally used as 'make a living career stream '. I can't afford many kinds of supplies that I see art RUclipsrs use , different kinds of canvas etc. But deep in my heart ,I feel myself at peace when I create something,I feel passion even without resources.... But eventually resources does play big role
it is a really refreshing manga to read, as an artist. it made me fall back in love with the creative process and the effort of my peers. every tiresome frame in an animation that most people see for only 1/20 of a second... is still worth it for me to draw. thank you for putting the themes of this manga so concisely and eloquently. ive never been very good at comprehending and explaining my feelings about things like this, so your work is truly invaluable.
One of my favorite things to observe in Webtoons (the site) are the thumbnails of the chapters aligned in columns. You can see the progression of the artists art through the series. Some examples are Unordinary, Spaceboy and Rebirth. It's amazing to see how the artist upgrades their art one bit at a time over the period of a month or a year, and you can actually see where they decided to thicken the line art, soften the shade or add feet and hands to their characters XD
I cant believe I cried over this wtf it's..too relatable. i grew up loving art since i was a kid, reading a lot of manga, drawing, etc but I had always been pretty good at STEM and my parents encouraged it, repeating all the same things mentioned here. and yeah of course, theres a certain truth to it and there things I love about the field I've chosen but art was and still is my first love. the few times ive had the luck to get into a serious arts class (mostly writing because the thought of taking a serious arts class terrified me) it was..so amazing and different to really learn and talk about my work with people who understand. i've found my inspiration and have been drawing a lot more recently, not just doodles or my comfort zone and its hard but its so fun and rewarding. the struggle, the desire to be better, to be perceived, wanting to just..be able to do this. all of it feels like it got drawn out after watching this i cant read the manga now ill cry for real
I am literally sobbing right now, even though I have not read this manga yet, the video really touched my heart deeply, thank you so much for making this video, really means a lot I don't think I can even express it into words as someone who found that they want to learn art a little late than the supposed age, I am really struggling to keep up with my newfound passion, my constant under performance, lack of motivation and future dread. I am in final year of my graduate school and I started art like barely 4 months ago, I found I really enjoy doing this a lot but this whole stage of learning while seeing people your age have already excelled it, is kinda unmotivating sometimes, no bad feelings or hate to them, just sometimes this self loathing maximizes a little lot sometimes. even though people around me call me "talented" for being able to create something, it just really makes me sad. I used to feel bad for feeling hurt by a comment that is supposed to be a compliment, I now understand why is it so, I put hours of effort in that, I know they mean no harm but the compliment still kind of hurts and feels like it is undervaluing my hard work :/ plus I want to improve so badly especially because I started late that it gets frustrating many times, I am sorry I am kind of ranting here but thank you so much for this video, I think this was something I really needed to watch, I am gonna read the manga too, really thank you so much for this! p.s your editing and presentation is beautiful, like out of the world!
I'm finishing a career I don't like, I always wanted to be an illustrator yet my parents never let me, I thought "well I'll draw as a hobby" but after seeing this video I think I'm just going to pursue my dream before it's too late. At least try it out cuz I need a lot A LOT of practice. Thank u sm for this video, I needed this
Hey, same here. I fucking hate what I ended up doing for the past few years in my schooling. I hope you the best when it comes to following what you truly want to do.
Thank you, you translated my feelings about 'talent' so well! I work so hard for school (I study STEM) and the free time that I have I try to do as much art as possible (not to the point of having an artblock, which is very difficult). The point is that most times when I get a good result, either with art or in school, I don't really have the feeling that people see the actual time that I put into it. This has changed in the last 2-3 years, but I still have that feeling that people just contribute my accomplishments to my 'smartness' or 'talent' (I do recognise that I'm smart, but I can't compare it to my MUCH stronger work ethic). The few times my talent/smartness is brought up, it hurts so much and the worst part is that it is very difficult to explain to them why it isn't my talent that has brought me to where I am now.
As an artist...I felt every word. Calling someone "talented" is like a backhanded compliment sometimes. And we sometimes deny calling ourselves talented, because people would undervalue the effort we actually put into our craft.
You are one of my new favorite RUclipsr and I am always in awe of your work. So glad that I'm witnessing an amazing RUclipsr grow in front of my eyes!! Great job and I cannot wait to see your work get the recognition it deserves :)
THANK. YOU. As an artist who has been drawing since the humble age of.. whenever I could hold a crayon, I have had ENOUGH of people saying "wow, you're so talented!" They don't understand the struggles I've had to overcome to make the things I do. They don't understand the fact that my wrists are getting worse and worse every damn day. They don't understand how much slower I've been progressing compared to my peers. They don't understand the anguish I felt when I quit drawing for an entire year because I had become so burnt out from drawing all the time. They don't understand how hard it was to RELEARN how to draw after that one year break. They don't understand how much energy it takes to make even one SKETCH. Talent does not, and never will, exist. I am sick of people acting like it does. I've suffered too much to pass off my work as talent. Thank you so much for this video. And God bless this anime for existing. This anime fired up my passion again, and I feel like learning even more about art and how to make it.
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I will never forget my art teacher telling me that saying talent as a compliment is basically a slap in the face. That's why I always complement people on their skill or the work they've put in, rather than their "talent."
Oooh, very interesting to hear that come from a teacher! But it's a good thing to go by!
This is what I've been saying for years.. saying talent as a compliment IS a slap in the face! It undermines all the hard work the person went through to perfect their craft. Basically saying their mastery was only due to something else rather than their blood sweat and tears. The only way it works, I feel, is for a beginner where talent can actually be a factor but as they go further into their career and their proficiency is clearly at a higher level its stops being due to that.
Yes! Whether its because of their talent or not, it is best and ( well probably prefered or even more good ) to compliment the person on their hard work.
They did their best and did great on what they were doing so complimenting them on their work they did is better.
Yooo people who think like me!!! I study figure drawing but I'm not talented as an artist I spent years growing good draftsmanship and even more years practicing technique's before I could get started with anatomy, unlike talented artists
omg same!! i read this book called "mindset" by carol dweck a few weeks back and it said the same thing- instead of complimenting people on their talent, its better to compliment on hard work. prodigies are prodigies simply because they've doing their thing since a young age and are now better at this than those who recently started!!
I agree, also "smart" is one of them too. I worked my ass off to get straight A's (used to be a straight F/1.8 GPA student) and I am annoyed when people say how smart I am, when in fact I have adhd and dyslexia so I spend 15 hours studying a stupid math problem until I get it. I really appreciate how you explain this to people to spread awareness
I just tell people I work hard, I'm not smart. they brush it off and I accept it. I got tired of bothering but I still say that one statement. so when they see what I meant, and they try to say some stupid crap to me, I remind them of my warning. I'm not some amazing genius and I don't need that pressure. it messes with ya.
I agree with what you said, I have ADHD as well, but both of those disabilities have nothing to do with intelligence. It’s possible you are quite “smart”, the difference is like you said that’s not where your success came from. It was your extra hard work to get good grades despite your disadvantages
You literally are smart bro, intelligence is the inherit one not smart so you got mad for no reason
@@ayocarrot8844 People usually see "smart" and "intelligent" as the same thing. You may think there's a difference but who uses those terms differently?
@@ReblazeGaming don't care, clearly you aren't intelligent cause you can't catch on
I cried listening to this. The same way I cried reading the manga. This doesn't just hit art students but everyone struggling with their career
Oh absolutely! In this instance I was talking about art specifically, but there's a large openness to interpretation with these issues across the board, it effects many people in so many different ways, ty for watching :')
I just love your coment, I feel you, I´m almost crying too
@@linesinmotion This video really hit me different as an aspiring software developer. Seeing the amazing applications people have created by themselves always leaves me in awe, especially since I understand how much time you have to put into coding just to understand certain concepts. To put those concepts to use in a properly functioning program is insane. I think artists and programmers both have that 'talent' stigma around them.
Glad I wasnt the only one crying ... oof, the way this hit me right in my soul
aa same, im tearing up
My little sister is ridiculously good at art for her age. Constantly I hear her being praised for her talent and her gift, but I saw her drawing daily before she got to that level. It's her dedication I praise her for.
Talent is just Passion + Practice, that's something I didn't realize for a long time, but I think everyone should know. Your ability is due to your hard work and dedication to it, and with enough dedication you can develop any skill, even one that seems so far out of your reach.
BS. I kicked ass at computer programming when I was a kid (got paid for it at 13). Yes I put in some work but that was because I already had the talent that gave me the motivation. There is a reason why your sister took up art and not, say, programming at a young age. It's because that's what she's talented at.
@@viharsarok yo, what are you tryna say? Your comment seems like it makes sense but when you really think about it, it doesn’t-
Sorry I forgot to finish my comment so it made no sense
@@windkaxh4528 If my comment looks like it makes sense it's because it does. Yours, on the other hand seems to make no sense because it doesn't.
@@viharsarok there is an argument to be made that we naturally gravitate towards things we find easy, but it is by no means a global one. Satoru Iwata said Talent is just refining something forever and enjoying and enduring the process of doing so - he had sit down meetings every year with every single person at Nintendo HQ. I think he's more qualified to speak on it than you or I, and hey, he was probably a more "talented" programmer than you too.
@@FrecklesOpenMic If that were true there wouldn't be 8 year old chess prodigies who can beat 60 year old club players with ease. The 60 year old club players have been refining their playing for a much longer time, even in terms of hours put in. Talent is a thing and it's more important than effort, especially in the higher echelons of performance.
After watching this I have an even greater respect for all the artist who put the time and effort into following their ambitions.
Thank you! 😊
It took me at least 2 years to get decent at drawing
And im still not half way at where i want to be in my art skills
@@ansatsu4020 Great to hear the efforts. And now that you've mentioned about art skills so if you want to learn more I know a channel called *Art Prof* wherr they discuss about arts and that now they even given free videos for artist's curiculum to draw. That's just my recommendation though. Anyway, keep drawing.
@@men_del12 thx I appreciate it and keep drawing if your also an artist and thanks for the channel recommendation
To be very honest, this manga saved me from falling into the abyss. Though art and design are 2 different spectrums where sometimes they connect, it's really hard to push forward being a designer. Constantly thinking of creative solutions often leads me to burnout. What I was lacking in my life was motivation and like the art teacher rightly said in the manga "Kids who don't have passion for something, they won't be motivated". This struck a chord and it really helped me get out of the dark room.
same! i felt like giving up for my upcoming design entrance exam but this manga saved me
Glad that you make it bro, good luck ma dude
I know it is year since your comment but I want to say sth too. I love design new and new characters and "breaking rules" e.g. calm character with red addons or angry with blue. I have a lot of characters which I deeply love but the hardest part is to draw/color them. I had so many breakdowns because of it. The shading adds so much to the style or outfit but I can't do it better. I still struggle to find my style (sth like anime but not that shiny like most of art I see nowdays). I know it is pretty chaotic but I can relate so badly 😭
@@annamichacz1534 my instinct seeing a comment like this is to try and help you with the things you listed as a struggle but really i think its best to say it is hard but the fact that your pushing forward, and the fact you truly deeply desire to get better is all you need to get to that point and i hope to encourage and congratulate you for all your hard work so far and to come! ^^
passion 🙂🔥
talent compliments can sometimes also be like, "oh youre so talented, i could never" which puts the artist in a position of having to comfort the other person for not having that skill.
Oh no, I love when I get that, I think it's a great oportunity to say "Hey! That's not true, everyone could do it if they put hard work on it." "Nah, you can do it! but you need to actually start, somewhere" "Do you think I was born painting instead of crying to the doctor? Nah, I also used to think I could never do this". And then they get motivated and understand inmediately that "talented" is not actually what I am.
@@Procrastinacion_ but you see that in this situation, you're put in the place of having to care for the emotions of the complimenter, instead of being able to be happy for yourself? i, too, like it when i can make someone feel better about themselves and i also often react this way to such comments, but i still think that if you want to make an artist feel good about their work, putting yourself down is not the way to do it... yeah.
well i have been sketching irregularly since i was 8 years old. although i was irregular i.e only drew when i wanted but i definitely gave it much much more time than others around me. my father also draws really good .so when i mentioned this fact while showing my fanart to my friends. they ignorantly said you are so lucky this is in your genetics . just like the person in this video said this was their way of complementing but it did feel as if i just used a skill passed down to me.
I'm guilty of it, ngl
every time people compliment me for being talented I view it as a reminder that I'm actually lucky to have this stubbornness of mine..
I remember I was doing an academic drawing of Apollo's head and I just couldn't get to capture his character's shapes right, I thought that I should ask to leave the class for today, but then I felt like that would be slacking and I stayed. That was one of the worst decisions of my life. I feel everyone watching me and seeing that what I draw looks awful I held my tears all that time in class. Just as I left the school a bursted into tears and couldn't stop no matter how hard I tried. My face gets really red when I cry, so I took 1 hour walk home instead of bus. If 5 years ago someone would say that it happened to me I wouldn't believe them. I redid that Apollo's head next time it looked much better but I think that's not the best of me. Every time I hear word talent towards my works I think I'd cry remembering all the hours I spent drawing and scraping my art. Blue period will always has a special place in my heart. Thank you for that amazing video and sorry for venting.
Thank you for sharing your story!
Man I can relate to that. I was in a drawing class one time and felt terrible because there was this girl who was so good the teacher told her she was too good and he moved her to the advanced class. Her stuff blew me away and I was on edge from then on. Everyone else in the class was real friendly but man I felt like it was pressure central and wanted to quit from how stressful I perceived it was. It ended up working out though but that was a rough learning experience.
This manga... is so realistic. I understand the MC and relate to it so much bcs I also studied STEM in highschool. I was considered as a "smart" student. I have been doing art since I was in middle school as a hobby I enjoy. So, as a senior year student, the thought of enrolling to art school crossed my mind. But people around me said: "You are smart, you should be a doctor and study medicine. Studying art is not worth your time. You are going to be jobless. Plus it's expensive. Don't you think it'll be a waste? Studying medicine is better."
But at the end, I applied to an art school and got accepted last month.
However, this didn't end my anxiety. Because studying art and doing it as a hobby, it's really different.
Doing art for hobby is all fun. You just... doing it for yourself when you are bored. But studying it? It really gave me more pressure as I found myself (who usually being the best one in STEM subject) being at the bottom. This situation made me compare myself to others. I envy those with "talent"... I struggled so much.
Reading this manga made me realize I shouldn't cry about being "talentless" and I should practice harder! Also thank you for your video and analysis. It's good!!! 😭😭🥰
(Edit: Thank you for the heart-warming replies. I didn't expect my story got so many likes. A little update on my journey. I actually applied to 2 universities. One with art major and one with communication. And I suprisingly got accepted in both (Art first and the the communication). Since the communication major one is more cheap and considering that I love it too as much as I love art, I sadly decided to drop the art major off. But I'm still as passionate doing art and still dreaming of being a professional artist! Enrolled into art school or not, this video is still so impactful for me! 🥺❤️)
YOU CAN DO IT BRO!
This is gonna be me. I was in my second year of chemical engineering and dropped it to now enter the world of design and more artistic studies things I have never studied in my life I always studied sciences and maths. So now I am studying for an exam I never had I am trying. I feel so insecure. I will struggle so much. Gosh. Why am I going on this path it just feels more rigth! I can't think too far ahead or I will think I'm not good enough and chicken out. I will foccus short term and try my best! Good luck on your journey!
@@anampacheco1158 goodluck to both of you!
I still dont know what to take in college. Im torn between being a doctor or an artist.
May I ask? Do it really lead somewhere, you do what you like , but ,you need good grades to go to art school.
Like I’m failing French school with 11.62 this year I’m going nowhere we are graded on 20.00 points.
Plus our 3 hours of sleep having 3hours of homework, and doing 8am to 6pm we can’t stay healthy with studying that much
I like arts, but French school have too high expectations for their students im getting nowhere I’m only being good in English and art class even if my working
It’s why blue period holds such a dear place in my heart, as a med student (primarily dealing with stem and requires lots of studying) who loves art like writing and drawing. All those requires hard work and willingness to improve yourself, sometimes making a fool of yourself to learn things you aren’t familiar with. It’s why i relate to yatora and many characters in blue period, their struggles are so real and it motivates me to do better as a student and to make stories that i and other people can see themselves in my own approach.
(This video also introduces me to blue period and witch hat atelier a year ago, so thank you so much for making this video!)
Fellow med student who also loves to draw and write. Agree with everything you say. Competence in a domain requieres so much hard work that a lot of people overlook.
Hey just for fun but do you know who else started from meds and ended up as a great artist? It's Osamu Tezuka, and his medical knowledge has helped him greatly in writing Black Jack 😂
Can I just say your editing is breathtaking
Thank you, appreciate it 😭😭
@@linesinmotion for real tho, your edit, your intonation and how you present your opinions are awesome
lines in motion it really is, the editing and layout make it complement the message of Blue Period so well
My partners mother said I was “talented” in the sense that I was born with the ability to just draw. When I told her that no, I was not and put in years and years of work and studying, she completely brushed off what I said and said, “You still have to have the natural born gift.” No. No one is just gifted the ability to draw. Everyone can draw. It is a skill that requires a lot of patience, studying, practice, and most importantly, time. Yeah, some learn faster than others, but anyone can reach master level of drawing if they put in the time to do so. I honestly hate the word talented. I have had so many people say it to me while brushing off my hard work. I wasn’t like a lot of artists who say they were always drawing. I didn’t start drawing until I was 12. It never interested me until a friend of mine who was younger than me came into my life and she was so good and made a lot of comics that it inspired me to want to do the same. At that time, I could only draw stick people. Now I can do photo realism along with my own stylized art style. So, when people brush off my hard work as something I was “born with”, it really bothers me.
Another thing that bothers me are people who say realism doesn’t require as much skill as stylized art… Most people that I see that can do stylized art can’t do realism that well. They both require different appearances when drawing, painting, or whatever. Realism I find much harder and much more time consuming than stylized art any day.
Holy crap yea I 100% agree with you. It annoys me when people say I’m talented, but I don’t wanna correct them and come off as up myself or anything like that. I’ve never actually heard the argument ‘realism doesn’t take much skill’, i’ve always heard the argument stylised art doesn’t take as much effort. It’s bullshit though, cuz for every person it’s different, and it’s really hard to compare the two, like it is comparing digital and traditional art. For me personally I find realism easier, but hey that’s different for each person.
"Yeah, some learn faster than others", then, what is your opinion about being 'gifted' or 'with talent' if it not means level of mastery but instead time to reach that mastery is shorter than other people with equal amount of effort. People often said "Wow, you are so talented, I could never do that" for something that seems unattainable, primarily in School, you are being given around 18 year to reach a certain level of mastery, thus 'talent' do contribute in you reaching that amount of mastery in a limited amount of time, thus people are envious about it since they do the same but cannot reach that level of mastery you have, and this cannot be changed no matter how many effort you do. I am kinda irritated of people who says they aren't talented and they just work hard yet still get good achievement like you tried to looks humble but it ends up mocking others' effort like the sole reason people cannot get good achievement is because they don't do the same amount of effort as you.
@@leafaldehyde6251 I feel like people *think* the word talented means ‘naturally gifted’ or something along those lines, which I do not agree people are *completely* naturally gifted in most cases, and their work is a result of hours of learning and hard work. I definitely agree and also see talent as more of how long it takes for someone to learn something - how long it takes for something to just click in their brain. I do agree some people just get things and things just click for them easier than for other people, however, you can only get so far with talent, and need to actually put effort in, in order to get better at some point. So yea I see talent as how long it takes for someone to learn something rather than them being naturally born with the ability to do something, and find the compliment of being talented a bit irritating when people mean it as a ‘you’re naturally gifted’ and fail to see the hours of work I’ve put into improving my skills.
@@neom0on Well, I get that, I often in that position, it just that those high-skilled people often tries to throw 'talent' out of equation leaving only only hard work as the only ingredient for mastery, like "you can do it to if you work hard like me"(like I don't work hard before) and indirectly says those who don't have mastery don't work hard. I just wish they acknowledge that they have talent to a certain extent rather than just "This is the result of my hard work (alone)"
@@neom0on I think I get it, those who is 'apparently' not talented has the tendency of throwing out 'hard work' from the equation of the 'high-skilled' person maybe because they don't want to feel awful (admit that they don't work hard) while the 'apparently' talented (high-skilled) person throwing out 'talent' from equation also because they don't want to feel awful (admit that it is not completely hard work or admit that they are gifted (learn faster) and this is luck (because we cannot choose))
this really touch me...being an artist as a hobby and going to art college to get a career within. I feel every single pain.
Wishing the best for you and your artistic future! thank you for watching 💙
I really like art. Ever since I was young I have always been attracted to lines and colours. I have also been complimented by teachers and friends that I am talented in art and has the tendency to pick up things more quickly than my peers. However, I was also born in an Asian country to a set of a conservative family. Every time I came home with an excitement to showcase my art, a little part of me always died whenever my family brushed aside my works with complimentary dismissal words such as “That’s very nice but you don’t have to bring your artwork home, it clutters our home.” to sometimes straight dismissal of “waste of space”. However, I was still allowed to buy art supplies and create them, just if I give the piece away afterwards or discard them. So, the notion of an artwork always have to have purpose to other people or its useless has begun to grow by then. But still, there was this sweet dream that one day I could become an artist and create art for a living, that I never told my parents for they wanted me to go through stereotypical “safe” jobs. But then my brother went to uni to major in photography which is a closely related major to art and I thought “will my dream be able to come true?” But years passed and he graduated but eventually did not work in art related job. My parents started arguing and the financial strain from my brother’s private art uni tuition fee is evident on our family’s economy. So I started high school with pressure from my parents that again art is not a stable major and it is useless to pursue my talent there and to keep my grades stellar instead. I knew at that point that my parents would never allow me to pursue art related majors, but i still dreamed. I started doing volunteer photographic and digital designing in my local youth community as an outlet for my passion. My parents were okay with it as long as it is a hobby, so I pushed myself to the limits creating works and arts. Then my high school graduation was looming and I had to choose a major for uni. I had debated architecture, graphic design, interior design, multimedia arts, and other artsy majors that doesn’t really screams pure art as a way to soften the impacts to my parents. But in the end my plans never succeeded and I had to settle for studying to become a biomedical scientist, a STEM major. I still haven’t been able to fully put down my attachment to art so I dedicated 18 kg of my baggage for my art supplies. It is sad that the only times I ever used them is to take study notes and to make greeting cards as my mindset of creating purposeful art is very hard to change. I cried reading blue period and my youtube history is full of art related videos for a future that I wasn’t allowed to dream of. I am sad to see my “artistic talent” dwindling down to being just an “aesthetic” person. But this is my choice and I felt like I have betrayed my “talents” and myself. Your video truly hits home and as a person who gave up on arts I just hope that there are other people that are stronger than me and does not give up due to social pressure. Sorry for the unnecessary life ramblings and story. I just wanted somewhere to pour my regrets and lingering feelings.
My friend, your life is not over yet. You can learn to appreciate what you create, even if it will be hard. And even if not a full time job, you can still enjoy it however you choose. You can learn at home, not all professional artists went through formal art education- that's the beauty of art, there's not one right path to it.
I hope you'll be able to find your joy again, I can see you're still holding it somewhere in you. I believe in you, you can get there
@@bluefox5331 A lot of great artwork was made by people who weren't professional artists or even had a lot of training.
I graduated with a BS in Software Engineering in 2019. I also had Asian parents who discouraged me from pursuing the arts. I really liked drawing since a kid and anime and cartoons. I am financially independent and live on my own. When the pandemic begin, I committed to attending a local art studio to study fundamentals. I learned to use charcoal, water color, gouache, oil paint, and have moved on to digital art. Last year my art teacher gave me the opportunity to substitute teach his classes. I love it. This summer I will be running workshops at his studio. Last November, I decided to make prints and stickers with two of my best friends and sell my art at events. We made $600 at the last event, $300 at the most recent one. I am taking a few classes online at Brainstorm School which is taught by a lot of industry professionals. I got laid off at my tech job last month, so I’m fully concentrating on art until I find another job. I’m considering learning to be a tattoo artist. I’m also going to try doing this illustration gig which will pay $680 per illustration.
My friend, the journey doesn’t have to end, it might just be on a pause. As long as your heart wills it, art will find a way back in to your life and you will find a way back into art. Do what you need to do to survive. There’s nothing wrong with that. That doesn’t mean you have to give up your passion.
I'm not from an Asian househould, I'm from Russian but we have a lot of common things.
My mother, when she was a child, wanted to seriously go into art and she even attended some art school in her hometown but my grandparents quickly cut it off and didn't allow her to buy art supplies cause they prefered more to spend their money on their elder son than on their younger daughter. And because of this, mother has very two-faced views on art: she sometimes supported me and even bought me art supplies but at the same time, she always said that "art is not serious, art is just a hobby, you cannot fully survive in Russia on art" (unfortunate truth, since many Russians treat artists like a garbage and artists are very underpaid there). And, "you should choose more serious job to make money".
I also want to say that my mother is very narcissistic and she forced me to attend college I despised with all my heart, threatening me if I didn't want to go there, which killed my will to do anything and my symptoms of depression got even worse so I don't do anything serious besides 1-time sketch per month. I also don't know will I ever come back to art.
My situation is much lighter than yours but it's still not good. I'm not interested in being a mother but if I had a kid, I would allow them to have any hobby they want, especially if my finances would allow that.
Chase your dreams, even if it's hard to try, life is not life without challenges
"talent is basically how fast you can learn or understand something, it doesn't determent your hard work" my 2nd year high-school math teacher Mr.Abraham
I started crying when I saw the panel which said "Writing off the thing you love as just a hobby sounds like something only grown-ups would do..." Made me realize this is exactly what I was doing when I chose my university and major despite being an arts student my whole life. When I moved to academics I performed will but I lost all my artistic expression over the following years. It's very sad to look back on now and I encourage my own students to follow their passions as far as they can.
I'm tearing up because that hit so close to home. Imma just share some shit even tho no one's asking lmao.
As a child, I've always found STEM subjects simple and quite robotic. "As long as you remember the method and put the effort to remembering them, you'll find yourself in a situation where life is just as simple and robotic" was my mindset all my life. I never had bad grades because of this, but my way of living that time was pretty monotone to say the least, like it wasn't sad, but it wasn't particularly happy as well. I mean, I was able to watch anime, read books, or maybe even draw random sketches, but all of them were just hobbies of mine and none of those were things i was passionate about. I guess, until I heard a certain pianist moved me through his playing.
I was ashamed for even thinking of *crying*, because "why the hell would i cry over a random piece?". After thinking about it, I realized that playing the piano is something I wanna do with my life. From that moment on, I worked to achieve skills and technique I never had. At this point, I'm so fucking frustrated about my lack of "talent" and I'd usually summarize it as "It's because you have no talent that you can't do it" but ohoho, how wrong I was. I'm still bad af, but I know that practice takes hard work.
Plus, I know that I'd have to give it up eventually since I'm at least aware that I need to face reality soon enough.
This is such a lovely and saddening comment at the same time, thank you for sharing. I absolutely LOVE the piano, can't play it myself (i was more of a keyboard player back in the day), but hearing you tear up over hearing the pianist play is so touching, and not anything to be shameful of at all!
It's so nice to hear you're taking on the piano despite the challenges you come across, i'm confident that if you carry that up, you'll be amazing in no time! Some practise is better than no practise at all, as they say! I don't think there's any reason to give it up, keep going!! 🎹🎹🎹
Sorry, but no. STEM is hard for me. Anything is hard if you dont have the passion and dont like or hate the subjects. For me, drawing IS HARDER than biology and chemistry. My grades aren't that good in chemistry, but pretty good in biology.
Well, I'm a psychology student and i kind of share the same struggle with artists. In the place where i live, people often underestimate mental health (an aspect of psychology) and many believe that mental illness doesn't exist. They also think that studying psychology is a waste of time and effort and will not land you decent salary
I was kinda glad that my parents werent so skeptical with my decision to pursue psychology. Honestly though, i didn't really know what i wanted to do so i chose psychology. Even now, I'm still not sure what is my true passion, but what i know is i don't resent myself for choosing it :)
Thank you for reading my story
@@warhammer8230 Ah, if my comment was offensive in any way, I deeply apologize.
Your story was really heartwarming to say the least, and I'm genuinely happy that you don't resent yourself or your choices :D Idk, to say that mental illnesses don't exist because it's "just in your head" is like saying that asthma doesn't exist because it's "just in your lungs" (???) But I do believe that the reason why peeps generally don't believe in mental health problems is because it usually isn't something they see or notice in others. Although, hearing it from a someone studying psychology makes it more "real" if you know what I mean.
@@kahokohino8573 No worries. all is good. Also, thanks for your nice comment
I have quite a similar experience. I had always enjoyed art since I was little, sometimes I would just stop and stare at something, beautiful sculpture, painting, art... The beauty in them struck me. I drew every day, wanting to be better and better. But as I grew up, I realized I was good at STEM subjects in school, I could have a sought-after career out of it. I decided to put away my sketchbook and art supplies, not touching it for years. But one day, I saw my dusty sketchbook, and I was stung by nostalgia. Before I knew it, I had cracked it open and drew again. It had hit me hard how much I missed drawing.
Of course, I had to be realistic, so I put back my sketchbook, thinking I'd have a stable main job and draw as a hobby.
But when the time came for me to choose my career, I ended up choosing to major in art-related course. Turned out I liked art too much to simply do it as a hobby.
Of course, whatever path you choose, either to continue your passion to the side or make it your livelihood, you have my utmost respect. Just be sure the career you choose is what you actually want, and not because of hold-ups and expectation of what a good career should be.
This is why representation in the art community is so important, so many of us didn’t even realize that these struggles are normal, because people dismissed our hard work for talent, so much to the point that we believed it
Maybe for others this might be another manga analysis with insane effort put into editing and framing with perfection but for Artist this is going to hit too close to home perhaps too close to give cathartic experience.
I'm definitely reading this asap.
I think the manga in general will be a big emotional ride for artists, you can tell the mangaka really went through her own challenges - if this story is anything to go by. Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope you enjoy the manga!
same here not an artist in terms of paint and canvas (more in music actually) but definitely it'll be a cathartic experience for sure
This is actually a series on Netflix so you can also watch the anime
you're so f right.
I relate to this because I’m 16 and people always ask me how I’m so talented at drawing and I say “I’ve been practicing since I was in kindergarten for hours and hours”, and I feel like all of the hard work I did really paid off
I never related to anything more
As an animator and an animation student, this really hits home. People don't really see on how much an artist puts into one piece of artwork or 5 seconds of an animation frames. It's the little things that normal people don't usually see unless explained or studied. It's really sad that art doesn't get the credit that it deserves most of the time. This video really shows how littlest details and hours to years of hard work make a huge difference.
I myself is struggling to even animate, like making a character move it's limbs or doing something that a normal camera can't do and its frustrating to animate a project that you can't finish earlier than you want it to. I've experienced loosing motivation because of people who are better at animating and even younger than me, countless animation being produced like it's competing against each other on who's better, while I'm here making a 20 second of animation takes me like a month or more for me to finish.
And yet, as stubborn as I am, I'm still doing it because I love it. I guess this is where the saying goes like "As long as you love what you do, you'll always continue to push yourself to strive for it even if it's impossible." I suppose that applies to all artists who really wants to pour all of their hard work to produce something amazing and I for one, is going to continue to do that. No matter the struggle, no matter how hard and frustrating it is, even the impossible, we can do it. I know we can.
(Great video by the way, I accidentally made a reaction essay out of it HAHAH)
As someone who did Art alongside stem subjects I can tell that the amount of dedication and committed work ethic needed to do art is undermined by a lot of people.
It can be much harder than any Stem field and i'm talking about just the "drawing" aspect, i didn't even started on painting.
To make an oil painting in the levels of "Lady of Shallot", it's so ineffable and seens like it's would take decades of everyday training.
This made me realize how much effort my friend, someone who’s good at art, put into her drawings. I haven’t read this manga, but I do plan to after exams lol, but I can already feel how close this will hit. Before my friend was even as good as she is today, she didn’t even how to draw anything. When we first met, I was into art as a hobby and something to do to pass the time in class, and I introduced it to her. I didn’t really need to put in the effort to draw somewhat mediocre, so she always saw me as someone better at art than her. As the years passed by, I took a more STEM and academic-based path in school. She took a more fine arts path. Everyday she always drew something new and different than the day before. Slowly I saw her art grow, but I never realized that she was always drawing something at all times. Every time she was on her phone, it was a piece of art that she liked or a new challenge to draw. Soon, very soon, she was so much more better than me. I always thought that she was just talented, but I was clearly absorbed into my own thoughts and feelings to not come to the realization that the reason why she was so much better was her effort. 1 year, 2 years, 3 years and on she never stopped drawing. I now have so much respect for the time she now puts in. Thank you for listening to me talk.
Just discovered this comment now and I really think it’s a beautiful comment
My professor always said "talent is nothing but skill, therefore talent isnt a real thing. Anyone can become skillful if they try."
I cried to this because im such a coward for not taking the risk of choosing art, which is what's best for my happiness. Instead I chose one from the stem courses, in hopes for better job security
Edit: im shifting courses. Gonna chase my dreeams!
I know how you feel. I told myself that since I was in a dark place when choosing university courses, it was the right decision for me to not pursue art, because I was afraid that I would end up hating it. I thought I would still have spare time to practice, but recently i've had less and less time to draw. Now i'm afraid i'll lose art all together, simply because I was too afraid to be classed as some kinda dropout who wasted their parents money on an art degree.
@@brondermody3409 This is just like my story. I choose an engineering major because i was afraid of losing my interest in arts if i were to do it as a job. I don't know what the future will bring but i'm sure that my passion for art is something real and different. It never goes away, the only subject i learn on a daily basis is art related things, either through youtube or by drawing/painting. I hope once save enough money, i can get closer to arts field. And i hope everyone in the same position as me can find a way for themselves to pursue their interests
This comment hits close to home, as someone who is on their senior year of hs on a STEM program, I have become more frustrated with it. I never liked it since the beginning, but is the "job security" that keeps me on it. I want to be happy, I just don't know what to do at the moment.
I relate to all the people here. I also chose engineering. I took the easy path, I was "smart" so, all I had to do was get into a decent college and get a job and that is what I'm doing. Not particularly disappointed, because I never even considered doing art full-time cause I don't know a single person who did that. It's pretty much unheard of where I live, but there are still art colleges around😆
Hey, do what you gotta do. Choose your jobs responsibly. Other people may take the leap and pursue art majors but if its not a viable option for you then its totally ok to go for something else. Maybe it was not meant to be, maybe an opportunity will arrive in the future. Just try to do your best
I think what hit me so hard with this series is that he had to choose between job security and his passion. Its a brutal truth that making it as an artist financially is far from easy. However other jobs aren't any more secure like many people think. Those doctors and lawyers deal with immense stress and insane work hours. Not to mention many health and legal risks that mean one wrong step and they lose their income. Art for many people may not lead to reliable income but it offers a lot of skills that are more flexible when it seems the world is coming down around you.
RUclips algorithm better make sure this video get the recognition it deserves. Kudos once again for this good video
Ha, the algorithm can be a random one sometimes, thank you for commenting and the support!
I was actually sent here by the algorithm. Your prayers hav been heard. I really hope many, many more people will still come though!
Great editing- this was in my recommends. *will* be checking out more of your stuff.
it’s actually beautiful how i discovered the manga while i was at my lowest point in life. it is heaven-sent and i couldn’t ask for more.
It must be the universe telling me a message and aligning things together because I'm currently reading a book about grit and this video pops up in my RUclips recommended. If anyone's curious the book is called GRIT by Angela Duckworth. It's about passion and perseverance, I also saw the Will Smith interview in the book which was mentioned in this video around 4:36 - it's crazy how everything is tied together. Great video! Thank you for posting this, I'll definitely consider giving this manga a read.
Thank you so much! And i've never heard of that book, i'll have to definitely add it to my read list, thanks for mentioning it! 😊
Also currently reading it. Talent is secondary, those who preservere and use proper training methods shine on top.
i'll have to give it a try!
@@linesinmotion I swear i look like the lead guy in that manga. Even the wierd ben over posture, long legs neck and just most of it, its super wierd.
And thus, a prodigy was born.
I was caught off-guard when the MC's academic prowess was mentioned because I haven't read the manga or watched the series. I just assumed he grew up making art, but as someone who started getting into art at a fairly mature age, I feel seen. It felt bad to go from "gifted child" to "artist" when I wasn't a young child anymore. That hit a little close to home.
That's why this manga is award-winning (I don't know what awards and Blue Period really deserve that)
She noticed me waaaahh
Great content!!!
Blue Period is about to get an anime adaptation and they dubbed the manga as award-winning (that's what I've read on news, sorry for not knowing specifically the award they've received)
@@obanatenshimae Can't wait em (≧▽≦)
“ So a big thank you to those of you who have watched till the end”
No, A big thank you to YOU for taking so much of your time and doing an in-depth explanation of blue period, specifically Yaguchi. You made me see the things I’ve already seen in a much deeper color. Making them hit deeper, near home. Thank you so much. You’re awesome.
I hope to see more of your beautiful videos in the future.
I have zero experience in art and I'm trying to get into it that is why this manga is really relatable to me
Wishing you the best of luck on your art journey!! 😊 hopefully this manga can work as a stepping stone to learning little bits and bobs
I just found this video and it truly hits home. I am a dancer and create drawings on my free time. The word "Talent" pops up all the time and it is a little heart breaking for people to see your hard work and see it as something you were born with.
9:36 reminded me of that one awful memory I had with my mom. She said, "Stop pursuing a career in writing. Find a more secure job." And boi the trauma came back full force, now my heart aches to write more and prove that she's wrong. Everything you said is spot on and I'm definitely sharing your video to my friends who think that talent is better than hard work.
Sounds nice
Yeah... looking back at both my old artworks and old writing pieces, they've only improved. But, they've old improved since I've spent almost every day looking at other artworks and books and taking into account just *how* the creator made the piece.
As someone who studied science and math almost most of my life and as someone who is graduating as a STEM student, finding art really is something special, specially since I planned on choosing fine arts as my course for college. I guess I can connect to yaguchi when it comes to finding someting new, refreshing and special at the same time. The first episode brought tears because persuing art when all you have done is study your whole life is pretty hard.
as an artist this made me so emotional i always hated being called "talented" and you literally described my thoughts thank you
Aaahh why did I cry, this is so true, everything about this narration is true. The blue period really speaks for the artists' life. It does feel good when people call you "talented" but being talented is not really true, there's no such thing. Everyone can learn art and it's not "talent" you see, it's the hard work and all of those all nighters of artists who LEARN and PRACTICE art more than anyone does.
The editing is so sublime! Thrilled to see a video on this topic - it was precisely Mori-senpai's line about not being talented that made me fall in love with Blue Period. I think I gave up on art years ago because I didn't see the value in learning and putting in the hard work and was daunted by the idea of there always being "someone better than me." Blue Period has really given me a lot of food for thought - it's been a reminder of the mindset I had back in the day, but it has also inspired me to move on from those regrets and pick up a new artistic hobby. Great video, really encapsulated Blue Period's spirit!
That scene really stuck with me too, I think it does with a lot of people just because of how often that scenario happens to artist. Getting into that mindset is incredibly easy, but it's lovely to hear about you picking up a new hobby! Never too late to pick up something else! :) Thank you for watching!
I started reading this manga the same year I applied for art university and I could relate to Yatora so much it hurts. I could instantly tell that the author went through this art journey herself, because everything she portrayed was so raw, real and emotional. She's showing the side of art world that I haven't seen portrayed ever in manga/anime/maybe pop culture in general. I cried a lot while reading this, because I could relate to it on a whole different level.
I promise that whenever I'm feeling demotivated about everything, I'll rewatch this video over and over again to remind me of how I felt your message the first time I've watched this video. thank you for making this.
This is such a sweet comment omg, thank you 😊😊😊
a year past and now youre a medstudent.youre way too burnt out and finals is 2 days from now. there's loads to study, anatomy almost killed you, neuro is coming fast with a knife. you are losing friends because you grew up, you're way past now at just romanticzing your friends misgivings. you learned that two of the most important people in your journey is draining you, jerms is manipulative, anne is stubborn and pitiful - and you've let yourself be caught between their war, but that ok cause you managed to cut yourself off from them and I'm proud of you. you're on that stage where you're ready to take the next step, you've let go of things holding you back, and youre sad, but don't look back too much. I'm proud of what we've become in a span of year. it was blood sweat tears from hereon. this is a message from youre future, and there's more to come. youre doing great, keep your chin up, always.
its that time of the year i guess. youre not fine, but you'll keep pushing on. youre not talented, youre not a hardworker either, but well try. well get through.
@@linesinmotion thank you again for making this video. i hope youll always remember that you saved again this random person.
im here again update: youd probably fail cardio block but i hope with 2 module exams remainingh we can still push through. at this point im very afraid to be a failure, i know medicine is not for me but i am trying to be something, and im doing my best. i dont know more what to say, you now have a mech keyboard??? you already found the person youd spend your life with, the cat is getting cuter everyday and hes laying beside you on his back. i dont know, i hope im just scare, and i hope i wont betray you. i love you self.
ILL BE BACK, AND I HOPE WITH SOME GOOD NEWS
This manga made me realize that even though I was blessed with "talent" nothing beats it more than hard work and perseverance, so rather than being ignorant of the fact that one is considered "good" already, one should still strive to do their best and continue growing and keep that burning passion🙌🏽
This hit me real hard. I finished highschool and I want to pursue art, animation as a Career. I love it so much. But it isn't a stable job in my country and I'm so scared. I don't like the STEM subjects as much as I like arts. And this just hit so close to home. I'm crying because I can relate. So much.
I relate so much. I really really love art and I would want to pursue it as a career. I wish I could but I have no financial stability and no art major here....
It hits so close to home sometimes. All the art student struggles. I always find myself crying with the characters because "I know how it feels!" and "I went through that, too!"
man, I can feel the dedication you put in your videos, what an excellent work
Thank you so much, I'm glad that comes across haha!
I am not an artist nor I really want to be in the future but reading this manga was still such a relatable experience for me. For me, it was the dreading preparation period for entrance exams that really hit me. The amount of effort you put into preparing for that single entrance exam and the anxiety you feel along the way was really familiar to me. The context for that in this manga might have been art but nonetheless, the feelings any student holds before entrance exams are all pretty much similar.
That said, I still really enjoyed the artistic side of this manga. I always love it when I dive into the world I didn't know before and Blue Period has a really amazing depiction of the artistic world that I can't help but get captivated by it. The common misconceptions of the (Main Character) about art at the beginning of the manga was pretty much the same with me and it really was an experience when this manga proved it all otherwise.
I just realized that this comment has nothing to do with the message of this video lol. I apologize, but I just really wanted to share my thoughts after being reminded of Blue Period. And dang, I just want to metion that the editing for this video is insanely beautiful.
oh no, by all means, i love seeing people who aren't into art or are an artist themselves watch this video and comment their thoughts!
This video was for everyone! Whether you relate to the video, or if it teaches you a new perspective 😊 Thank you for watching!
My perspective towards 'talent' really changed. Thank you for this, it made me remember again why I love Blue Period ♡.
ah i'm glad to hear it! And you're welcome, thank YOU for watching! 😊😊
I came upon this manga accidentally and god damn is that accident click one of the best thing that happened to me for it made me feel inspired to draw again. When i first first started drawing, my mom saw what i drew and told me how i was "talented" in drawing and just like the mc felt, i was happy that i finally found something that im passionate about. But as time goes on, i saw how other people are much more artistic and advanced compared to mine, and i felt rlly small. I told myself over and over again that I've only just began, its only normal that their art is much more advanced to mine since they did start practicing and drawinf earlier than me. But after like 2 years since i started, i slowly lost my interest in drawing. I still draw but its not like before, where im passionate and happy about it. I stopped drawing and its been almost a year since I've last drawn because i got really insecure and down about my art because no matter the effort i put into it, i just couldn't seem to draw that good. This manga made me realize lots of things like how normal it is to go through a period of time where we would feel like we've come to a stop and is just going through circles in our art. And that's what made making art rlly beautiful and special, because of the time and effort it takes just to create a piece. The dedication it takes to keep moving. And how process, growth and practice is important. I cried lots of times reading this manga and i will too in the anime version of it, I'm rlly looking forward to the anime im so excited
This is the sign that I should pursue my dream, I thought that i didn't have a dream. I always try to limit myself in spending time drawing because I'm planning to be a doctor and now I realize that this video was a sign to me and that I have a dream and I shouldn't limit myself.
I hate how the word “talent” is always just applied to creative fields like writing, music and of course art, I’m sure talent may exist in other things such as in the world of sports but besides that it’s always applied to artist “Hey your a talented artist!”
“Your a talented writer” “your a talented music-“ and so on it’s so discouraging.
This convinced me to read Blue Period, thank you
Nice!!! I hope you enjoy it!
yeah also have you seen how they’re animating it? that’s what got me into it
This was so well put together and gorgeous, adored the segment where you talked about the different shading techniques
Thank you! And I'd love to go more into detail about shading techniques one day, there are so many techniques and I love seeing how each artist goes about it in their style!
i never defined the word talent as a natural gift. to me it was always something you're really good at. and that to me always subconsciously meant something ur good at because you worked hard at it.
I think that's the thing about the word talent, it has so many different meanings to each individual. There are some artists who aren't bothered about the word at all, and some who really dislike it. I think because of that, I can see why people try to compliment the artists skills instead, to not waver that line.
@@linesinmotion true true. I rarely use the word "talented". But i think that was always subconcious. Bit coincidental. But ye overall i do agree w ur point of: u arent born being able to do something.
Same, that's what I thought as well. So even though I now know what talent means to other artists, I would still feel honored if people called me "talented" since this is my definition. To me, the word "talent" and "skill" are basically the same. Though because of the video, I understand why some might be bothered.
@@1Tako1 ye but "your very skilled" just doesnt sound as nice somehow XD
@@AdaraFukuchi True, true. Though I would honestly take any compliment I can get!
I am not a painter, but I am a writer, and the struggle I face resonate a lot with artists. You get to the point that you question yourself and somehow see the futility when your hardwork don't produce any result, especially when it comes to people's interest, while also being anxious if all this time you only are able to create something because of your "talent" alone.
I’m a 2nd year art student who born with average talent’ in art. Ever since i studying in art school, I find drawing scary and it never failed to make me feel insecure. Yes, Drawing as a hobby, and drawing as a career are very different. But this manga, and the way you put it into words, makes me remember how much I love the world of art. thank you very much for the reminder.
This made me realize why I always felt what I felt when someone said, “imagine being talented in art, I can’t even draw a stick figure”. I felt kind of like my hard work wasn’t a thing and that it just came naturally to me like you said. Of course yes, I know I am naturally gifted in art but only to a certain extent- I can pretty much replicate anything I see if I work hard enough, and that’s pretty much it. Everything I draw, paint, make, I put in a lot of work in, and I think that’s the case for most artists. I know people mean well, but it still feels like a slap to the face
You can really feel the passion and effort put into this video and how perfect of an example is on this topic of hard work. Thank you for this amazing breakdown on one of my favorite manga this year!
Thank you very much, I wanted to make sure I did my best with this video because of how much the story means to me, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
This actually made me cry a little bit, it really hit close to home...I'm having a difficult period with my art and with what I want to do with my life and my art. Watching this video inspired me on so many different level. It made me rethink my approach to my art and my abilities in general.
Thank you, thank you very much :)
As an artist myself, the only thing i can say is "Thank You".
I always felt the word "talent" so discouraging, trowing away all my effors, and now you make a video about this with my favorite manga.
Thanks "Lines in motion".
I do stand up, and when I’m felling talentless, I come here.
I’ve watch this video more times than I can count (more the 10, I’m not saying a can’t count beyond 10,…11. see!)
But this video feels like a warm place for all creative people!.
Thanks
This is such a gentle topic to cover because as an artist myself who is also struggling to differentiate the idea of dedicating myself to a career in either what I want or what I feel I must do. I can't help but tear up hearing about such a relatable story all us artists go through. It's hard to push towards our hobbies because we fear they might be short-sighted because we were taught to separate our wants from our needs and find work that serves the economy. As a child born under a lesser fortunate family, I have been conditioned to put aside my passions and work towards a future I might not even want. But because I know it'll bring in the money to support the rest of us it is hard and suffocating to tell my family I still question where I stand.
Growing up I have been made to believe that a passion for art won't get you far in life and that only people with the talent can make it. It's just so frustrating to hear and it hurts because like so many other artists I feel pressured to impress them with my art just so I can be taken seriously. But even that doesn't mean I will be heard because I know the fear of being judged so well from the first line I make.
All I ask is to someday find courage in my art and this manga helped clear a way for that to happen. I've never cried over something like this probably because I've never seen it addressed before. I'm just so thankful that I'm not the only one feeling this way because I now know this lonely feeling doesn't truly mean I am truly alone.
Honestly, I never thought that art was a joke, if anything, it's way harder because when it comes to certain subjects, you only have a right and wrong answer, however, on the arts, everything is way more subjective and you also need to be on top of your game because that's one helluva competitive field.
YOU MADE ME CRY, THANKS.
😭😭 omg, i won't take responsibility hahs!
I’d like to add that art isn’t just learning how to draw or paint. You have to learn so many things from very different subjects such as architecture, physics, photography, sculpting, anatomy, geography, psychology, and so much more.
This was such a great video! Thinking back on it, I think it was reading Blue Period at the end of 2020 that kind of got me motivated to try and improve my artistic abilities for the first time in years. I think you did a wonderful job crafting a video that both captures the spirit of Blue Period and feels really motivational.
Thanks Logan! And just from following you on twitter over this past year i've definitely seen progression with your art and a clear drive that you seem to be enjoying! Amazing how much just a story like this can give us the motivation we needed
this is such a well written vid. i learned from child development psych that complimenting people for simply (and only) their success is like a close minded ness thinking, not seeing or complimenting their efforts is like telling them that hard work doesn't matter and only achievement and talent do
Tysm, I found this morning after watching blue period trailer. I know this manga is so special for artist development that being struggle or new and this video already explain that. I cried.. this is what I looking for.
Ooohh, so *that's* where some people are coming from haha, but thank you, i feel bad for making you cry, but at the same time ... not? 😅 Thank you for watching and commenting :)
@@linesinmotion well I cried with happiness haha.. 🤗🤗 ur welcome
When I was a kid I used to love art and won competitions, but as I grew older I started to notice my family's financial situation and forced myself to start studying towards a more "realistic" career.
So reading Yatora's journey into art felt too relatable to me because I was just like him but instead of chasing that passion and I was too scared of taking the risk, I didn't believe I was "talented" enough. After years of not knowing what I wanted to do with my life, years of locking up my dreams and reading this made me deconstruct what I believed about art and how to approach it.
But now that I've read this, it gives me more than enough reason to pursue my dreams again.
Your video hit right at home for me. I have always loathed when people said I was talented, because of the amount of time I had put in. Also being told “that is so good, all I can draw is a stick figure”, bothers the hell out of me.
My whole thought process was put into words because of this video. Some of my classmates would say "good for you cause you're smart" and I would just say "no I just study hard". And now I am trying to venture in the world of art, and I've never felt this conflicted in my whole life. Art is something you cannot let go once you've started. I am still on the fundamentals and this is where intimidation is so heavy you might just want to give up.
I'm incredibly blessed to have this in my recommendation. As a child I've loved creating - may it be music, drawing or writing - but then I was hit by the very harsh reality that took its form from my parent's and my friend's words, that I wasn't talented enough to succeed doing anything related to the arts and humanities.
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All around me, my peers would joke (and I desperate to fit in, would joke in kind) that my pursuit of the arts would eventually leave me with a lifetime of regret - desolate and homeless - and it would be better to not take that risk at all. After watching this video, I proceeded to read the manga and of course cried my eyes out when Yataro told his parents and insisted on it. It was something I could never do when I was a teen, something I thought would be a slap to the face to all my parent's hard work. So my passion for the arts gradually gathered dust in the back of my mind in favor of obtaining skills that would be useful to my profession (I'm in the medical field so studying, skills training and the occasional sleep took a huge portion of my time).
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And here I am depressed and scared of picking up an artistic hobby again because I myself have gotten into the mindset that my time would be best used for something else (like learning stocks or learning about coding). I honestly never thought that this singular video and Blue Period would make me reconsider my thoughts and help me acknowledge my passion for the the liberal arts but I am so grateful for the reminder.
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It's been a long time since I've last touched my paints and pencils and it's been a year since I last wrote any story on any paper or my laptop, I just might try creating again. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Every time I see really good art, I think to myself how hard they must’ve worked to get to that level, and that if I put in that much work, I too can someday (hopefully) reach their level
not an artist, but a gymnast here. i am a “good gymnast” to most, but ive worked my ass off, doing serious training 9 hours every week since i was 2. im bad at gym. ive put in so much work and im not even that good. when people that have only done it for 2 years have gotten better than me.
I would say, as someone who draw since im maybe 12 and come from nothing, u r bad in ur eyes ofc, because u still want to improve what u r doing. But in a viewer's eyes, u r good. Only because they can see something they think they will never be able to do. Maybe even those u think r better than you think they r mediocre and u r better than them. Everything is just in ur eyes.
I hope that at least u love the process, because this is what matters. More than the end.
As an aspiring artists myself blue period actually shows me how much I actually have to learn and how far behind mi stills are but that actually gets me excited cause it only means I can still get better
wow, this is such a good analysis. I grew up always conscious of how I'd never be comfortable or safe or successful if I didn't get a scholarship and my first year of university, I got it, but I studied astrophysics. I love science, I love astrophys, but gosh, when I had to take my general ed english classes, they sent all my overwhelming lifelong love for words flooding back into me and I switched my major to creative writing. everyone makes fun of me for being an english major, but I love it and there are so many skill they teach you. this switch has taught me so much appreciation for all the people who follow their passions and all the creatives out there. they make the world the bright place it is. artists of all types make life meaningful and worth living.
Thank you for the explanation. It really pisses me off when people say "Oh you're so talented ,I can't even draw a stick figure". And when I reply with "You've never even tried", they sometimes reply with "I don't even want to". It feels like a SLAP on the face. You can't compare yourself with someone who actually loves drawing and works hard. PLEASE to the people who don't draw, don't say someone is talented, tell them that they are skilled and have worked hard to be where they are, that's a compliment, the one above isn't.
Super crazy relatable. I also was a stem kid who found art later, in my first year of college. 12 years later, I'm still improving and learning. I have never heard of this manga before, but definitely is on my reading list now! Thank you so much for this video, I had a great time watching it.
I love the contrast between Yotasuke and Yatora. Yatora is a hard worker while Yotasuke is a talented individual. Yatora's hardworking nature allows him to excel in different fields. Yaguchi on the other hand does not have anything other than his talent. They don't understand each other because of their differences. I love how the author handled their conflict. Their dynamic is amazing.
I had never realized how much work artists put into their art. I'm an artist myself and I had no idea. I've always seen amazing artists and assumed their talent had gotten them that far. I knew they had put work into it, but I didn't realize how much. I presume the reason I don't see how much work I've put into my own art is simply because I've never worked that hard for it. "Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life." All of the hours I've put into improving my art, it was all because i wanted to.
I am beyond amazed at how someone could so articulately tackle a topic often overlooked. Many people chalk artists up as "naturally artistic", "naturally talented" but there is so much more behind that.
Thank you for vocalizing what other artists couldn't and weren't able to.
As an art student who is struggling with choosing a career decision in life, I find this discussion really informative and relatable In my opinion. What I find really great about this manga is that It really realistically depicts how Art can be seen In a lot of different perceptions, especially In the part where the main character realized that Art takes effort and work ethic, not just talent.
That panel when he said "I'm scared of drawing" got me.
This is an AMAZING video that captures so much of what I love about Blue Period. Thank you so much for making this.
Absolutely no problem at all! I was determined to get this video and topic discussion out, thank you for the lovely comment :)
@@linesinmotion this is a love letter to manga as a medium, I'm in actual awe.
My husband and I just finished watching the anime version. I went to a fairly prestigious art school 10 years ago, whereas he has always seen art as "not for me" so wanted to understand it more. This story got me to the brink of tears over and over again. I haven't made space for art in my life recently and it's like this painful burning itch inside me. I'm desperate to pick up a brush again.
i actually stopped drawing a year ago, a few years ago i loved drawing so much that i used used to draw something everyday, i started thinking I'm not gonna be as good as other big artists who were much better than me at my age, i slowly forgot how much i loved creating my own art. But this manga gave me a new perspective, I'm picking up art again and wanna practice different forms of art. I've come to respect those crazy good artists and stopped dismissing them as "talented". I realise now that they are good in art because of the time and effort they put in
“In the end, the worth of talent as a construct is revealed as virtually useless when, in the absence of the training necessary to reveal it and the effort necessary to sustain it , Talent, if it exists at all , vanishes”.
These words really made me ponder . As a person from medium class family who was said to be 'talented ' since childhood , I really related to yatora's struggle about should art stay as a hobby and nothing more as people can praise you over your art but nothing more than that . Art is not generally used as 'make a living career stream '. I can't afford many kinds of supplies that I see art RUclipsrs use , different kinds of canvas etc.
But deep in my heart ,I feel myself at peace when I create something,I feel passion even without resources.... But eventually resources does play big role
it is a really refreshing manga to read, as an artist. it made me fall back in love with the creative process and the effort of my peers. every tiresome frame in an animation that most people see for only 1/20 of a second... is still worth it for me to draw. thank you for putting the themes of this manga so concisely and eloquently. ive never been very good at comprehending and explaining my feelings about things like this, so your work is truly invaluable.
I was so close to dropping art for good because of my endless frustration with my work until I watched blue period; it truly saved me.
Saved you from what?
One of my favorite things to observe in Webtoons (the site) are the thumbnails of the chapters aligned in columns. You can see the progression of the artists art through the series. Some examples are Unordinary, Spaceboy and Rebirth.
It's amazing to see how the artist upgrades their art one bit at a time over the period of a month or a year, and you can actually see where they decided to thicken the line art, soften the shade or add feet and hands to their characters XD
I cant believe I cried over this wtf
it's..too relatable. i grew up loving art since i was a kid, reading a lot of manga, drawing, etc but I had always been pretty good at STEM and my parents encouraged it, repeating all the same things mentioned here. and yeah of course, theres a certain truth to it and there things I love about the field I've chosen but art was and still is my first love. the few times ive had the luck to get into a serious arts class (mostly writing because the thought of taking a serious arts class terrified me) it was..so amazing and different to really learn and talk about my work with people who understand.
i've found my inspiration and have been drawing a lot more recently, not just doodles or my comfort zone and its hard but its so fun and rewarding. the struggle, the desire to be better, to be perceived, wanting to just..be able to do this. all of it feels like it got drawn out after watching this i cant read the manga now ill cry for real
I am literally sobbing right now, even though I have not read this manga yet, the video really touched my heart deeply, thank you so much for making this video, really means a lot I don't think I can even express it into words
as someone who found that they want to learn art a little late than the supposed age, I am really struggling to keep up with my newfound passion, my constant under performance, lack of motivation and future dread. I am in final year of my graduate school and I started art like barely 4 months ago, I found I really enjoy doing this a lot but this whole stage of learning while seeing people your age have already excelled it, is kinda unmotivating sometimes, no bad feelings or hate to them, just sometimes this self loathing maximizes a little lot sometimes.
even though people around me call me "talented" for being able to create something, it just really makes me sad. I used to feel bad for feeling hurt by a comment that is supposed to be a compliment, I now understand why is it so, I put hours of effort in that, I know they mean no harm but the compliment still kind of hurts and feels like it is undervaluing my hard work :/
plus I want to improve so badly especially because I started late that it gets frustrating many times, I am sorry I am kind of ranting here but thank you so much for this video, I think this was something I really needed to watch, I am gonna read the manga too, really thank you so much for this!
p.s your editing and presentation is beautiful, like out of the world!
Your video is so amazing... you make still manga pages into subtle animations...
Your video editing is so beautiful and gorgeous to watch.
Thank you so much 🥺
I loved this story never cared about art, but the deep relatable struggles and yasatora finding himself was just so beautiful and relatable
I'm finishing a career I don't like, I always wanted to be an illustrator yet my parents never let me, I thought "well I'll draw as a hobby" but after seeing this video I think I'm just going to pursue my dream before it's too late. At least try it out cuz I need a lot A LOT of practice. Thank u sm for this video, I needed this
Your life is yours for the taking
Hey, same here. I fucking hate what I ended up doing for the past few years in my schooling. I hope you the best when it comes to following what you truly want to do.
Thank you, you translated my feelings about 'talent' so well! I work so hard for school (I study STEM) and the free time that I have I try to do as much art as possible (not to the point of having an artblock, which is very difficult). The point is that most times when I get a good result, either with art or in school, I don't really have the feeling that people see the actual time that I put into it. This has changed in the last 2-3 years, but I still have that feeling that people just contribute my accomplishments to my 'smartness' or 'talent' (I do recognise that I'm smart, but I can't compare it to my MUCH stronger work ethic). The few times my talent/smartness is brought up, it hurts so much and the worst part is that it is very difficult to explain to them why it isn't my talent that has brought me to where I am now.
As an artist...I felt every word.
Calling someone "talented" is like a backhanded compliment sometimes. And we sometimes deny calling ourselves talented, because people would undervalue the effort we actually put into our craft.
You are one of my new favorite RUclipsr and I am always in awe of your work. So glad that I'm witnessing an amazing RUclipsr grow in front of my eyes!! Great job and I cannot wait to see your work get the recognition it deserves :)
Wow, thank you so much!!! 😭😭
THANK. YOU.
As an artist who has been drawing since the humble age of.. whenever I could hold a crayon, I have had ENOUGH of people saying "wow, you're so talented!"
They don't understand the struggles I've had to overcome to make the things I do. They don't understand the fact that my wrists are getting worse and worse every damn day. They don't understand how much slower I've been progressing compared to my peers. They don't understand the anguish I felt when I quit drawing for an entire year because I had become so burnt out from drawing all the time. They don't understand how hard it was to RELEARN how to draw after that one year break. They don't understand how much energy it takes to make even one SKETCH.
Talent does not, and never will, exist. I am sick of people acting like it does. I've suffered too much to pass off my work as talent.
Thank you so much for this video. And God bless this anime for existing. This anime fired up my passion again, and I feel like learning even more about art and how to make it.
The picture animation residing inside this video is immaculate.