What a brilliant, honest, humorous lady, Nancy llewellyn. Such a pleasure to watch and listen to. As for the Iphone - the horrifying thing is what becomes of you when you access it continuously from the age of TWO!
I can definitely see that these problems might pop up in a class of students with interest levels ranging from curious to indifferent towards the subject. However, for someone picking up the book with a motivation to learn latin, and knowing the kind of ride that they are in for, the problems become less relevant. I can say so for myself, anyway.
On the topic of the pensa... I am using this book with my child at the moment, and he finds the Pensa very very hard if we try to do them immediately. The separate books Exercitia Latina I and Nova Exercitia I are very thorough and make the Pensa doable.
Great talk - I was there (red hoodie in the front row) and at that point had been teaching with Oerberg for about 8 years. I had been to several schools and had started two programs (while attending this conference, I was at Pine Crest and had started and building our program there which is why I was able to attend). Llewellyn's observations are spot on and I, too, found Oerberg's book to be a great tool for us teaching Latin. I'd like to add that her observations about the pensa (20:00) is important. I am still trying to find a good method but we do whole-class readings of the text and when I do so, circling and asking questions (Latine) is helpful. I also use the workbook and the exercitia that are Latin questions I lift those and ask those during/after the reading. So she's right that we need to be utilizing Pensum C ,then B, then A. In fact, most of what i have realized is that vocabulary is sacred and that is where most effort needs to be spent by teachers.
Hi John, I just watched the video yesterday and was reading through the comments. What stood out to me as well was the comments about the pensa. Have you run across any resources that might add a precursor to the pensa (matching pictures with content and then Latin questions with Latin answers) before moving to pensum C, then B, then A?
fantastic book. With knowledge of French and Spanish and German, and having had a little training in Latin, this book gave me real access to Latin. You may have a problem because Americans don't have much exposure to other languages.
Is there an equivalent for Ancient Greek? I’ve been using Pharr for 1.5 years and it’s nowhere near the brilliance of lingua Latina. Is athenaize a good equivalent?
What would the prof think of videogames in latin? Some people have translated a few into latin like final fantasy and battle of olympus (Prœlium Olympi)
spoiler: the entire story is Davus's dream, none of it really happened. Seriously though, I taught myself latin with this book and LOVED IT!! but it was a struggle at some points. I definitely remember 13 being the first pain point.
My son found Chapter 13 a killer. I put it down to (1) the fact that the calendar is really really hard and (2) the massive amount of vocabulary introduced in that chapter.
Rēctissimē monuistī, Annula! Grātiās!
What a brilliant, honest, humorous lady, Nancy llewellyn. Such a pleasure to watch and listen to.
As for the Iphone - the horrifying thing is what becomes of you when you access it continuously from the age of TWO!
I can definitely see that these problems might pop up in a class of students with interest levels ranging from curious to indifferent towards the subject. However, for someone picking up the book with a motivation to learn latin, and knowing the kind of ride that they are in for, the problems become less relevant. I can say so for myself, anyway.
Yes, as usual in learning, motivation is huge.
This woman is so funny! What a great talk
On the topic of the pensa... I am using this book with my child at the moment, and he finds the Pensa very very hard if we try to do them immediately. The separate books Exercitia Latina I and Nova Exercitia I are very thorough and make the Pensa doable.
Great talk - I was there (red hoodie in the front row) and at that point had been teaching with Oerberg for about 8 years. I had been to several schools and had started two programs (while attending this conference, I was at Pine Crest and had started and building our program there which is why I was able to attend). Llewellyn's observations are spot on and I, too, found Oerberg's book to be a great tool for us teaching Latin. I'd like to add that her observations about the pensa (20:00) is important. I am still trying to find a good method but we do whole-class readings of the text and when I do so, circling and asking questions (Latine) is helpful. I also use the workbook and the exercitia that are Latin questions I lift those and ask those during/after the reading. So she's right that we need to be utilizing Pensum C ,then B, then A. In fact, most of what i have realized is that vocabulary is sacred and that is where most effort needs to be spent by teachers.
Hi John, I just watched the video yesterday and was reading through the comments. What stood out to me as well was the comments about the pensa. Have you run across any resources that might add a precursor to the pensa (matching pictures with content and then Latin questions with Latin answers) before moving to pensum C, then B, then A?
Her observation concerning the order of the pensa fits with my experience.
Fantastic video with great analysis, thank you!
Great talk, thank you!
fantastic book. With knowledge of French and Spanish and German, and having had a little training in Latin, this book gave me real access to Latin. You may have a problem because Americans don't have much exposure to other languages.
"the tree that quīntus falls out of in chapter ten" spoilers :(
Wait it's in Chapter 10? I really want to read fabulae syrae and I heard she starts telling him them after this event
@@chicoti3 the events that happen in Familia Romana last a few days, so yes Syra starts telling after the falling but in the chapter 25.
At least she didn't mention that Marcus was really dead the whole time 😉
Chapter 16 and 22 are difficult as well
OXFORD fills in a lot as well.
My name is oerberg (in danish ørberg)
That's impossible
@@Philoglossos It's illegal
@@gezindc5917 That's inhumane!!!🤣🤣🤣🤯🤯🤯
Perhaps this could be remedied if we could sort people into classes based on more relevant factors.
Is there an equivalent for Ancient Greek? I’ve been using Pharr for 1.5 years and it’s nowhere near the brilliance of lingua Latina. Is athenaize a good equivalent?
There's a book called Athenaze but from what I understand is it does include some translation of the vocabulary, and it's only in Italian
There is an English version but it's nowhere near as good
Does she have a Latin 1 course on video I can take?
What would the prof think of videogames in latin? Some people have translated a few into latin like final fantasy and battle of olympus (Prœlium Olympi)
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spoiler: the entire story is Davus's dream, none of it really happened.
Seriously though, I taught myself latin with this book and LOVED IT!! but it was a struggle at some points. I definitely remember 13 being the first pain point.
My son found Chapter 13 a killer. I put it down to (1) the fact that the calendar is really really hard and (2) the massive amount of vocabulary introduced in that chapter.
The grammer starts getting hard at 13. Followed by 15 chapters of endless verb forms
You just take the book and learn Latin! That is it!
Latin spoken with American accent sounds funny.
It sounds more wrong than funny, to be honest :(
@@peterfireflylund Cicero would probably think all of us to be barbarians with comically wrong Latin. (Those of us who even have Latin that is.)
American latin learners should also learn Spanish to develop a more Hispano-romance pronunciation