LINGVA LATINA PER SE ILLVSTRATA Book Series Recommendation (in English)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024

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  • @ExVeritateLibertas
    @ExVeritateLibertas 3 года назад +273

    You are the second fluent Latin speaker on RUclips I've seen say they learned Latin from this book. That settles it for me.

  • @carlnikolov
    @carlnikolov 3 года назад +141

    Especially when Iulius says he has 100 coins and finds out he only has ten??? MEDUS!!!!! VENIIIIIII

    • @BulletTheEnforcer
      @BulletTheEnforcer 3 года назад +31

      Ō, improbe serve!

    • @roan2288
      @roan2288 3 года назад +22

      End of the chapter: *grabs beating stick*

    • @BulletTheEnforcer
      @BulletTheEnforcer 3 года назад +6

      @@roan2288 “Tuxtaxtuxtaxtuxtax” Jūlius Roanum/Roanam verberat!

    • @guilhermefrainer2865
      @guilhermefrainer2865 3 года назад +3

      @@BulletTheEnforcer don't do this sort of bullshit to Latin. Roanum suffices

    • @Djhuty
      @Djhuty 3 месяца назад +1

      Mede! Veni, servē improbe !
      I yelled this in my room when I read it lol.

  • @Enoughdata
    @Enoughdata 4 года назад +187

    Absolutely one of the greatest textbooks for teaching a language period. I wish more books used this method of teaching. I would love it if there were an Italian book that used the same method.

    • @joshscores3360
      @joshscores3360 4 года назад +8

      Better than Ecce Romani, definitely.

    • @williams.5952
      @williams.5952 4 года назад +7

      If you look on this channel you will see exactly what you want.

    • @leafes1644
      @leafes1644 4 года назад +1

      assimil could do

    • @Enoughdata
      @Enoughdata 4 года назад +1

      @@williams.5952 Already found it a while back XD

    •  4 года назад

      What about Greek?

  • @lesilluminations1
    @lesilluminations1 5 лет назад +128

    Returning to Latin in my retirement. These books are a gold mine. Good video!

  • @enricocamarda9721
    @enricocamarda9721 3 года назад +43

    it's my high school book! The author came to my class!

    • @Stoirelius
      @Stoirelius 6 месяцев назад +2

      You’ve met Ørberg??

  • @Hadrianus01
    @Hadrianus01 3 года назад +53

    You've inspired me to start Latin and buy these books! Greetings from Australia.

  • @nomadicmonkey3186
    @nomadicmonkey3186 4 года назад +37

    I feel so nostalgic for that reddish cover that the previous edition had. I used to study it day in and day out and to this day it's been one of the if not the fondest memory I've had with a textbook. I wish there were more language learning materials written in that method.

  • @Skinsfan819
    @Skinsfan819 4 года назад +26

    Orberg's work is a masterpiece. I've used them in my Middle School Latin class for years when students begin fifth grade.

  • @giannifois8948
    @giannifois8948 Год назад +6

    As an italian, I think the coolest thing about this book is that if you translate “Lingva latina per se illvstrata” in italian, you gain “Lingua latina per se illustrata”

  • @aurelfarkasovsky
    @aurelfarkasovsky 3 года назад +15

    You're doing this world a BIG service, thank you for recommending this book to us, I loved it, it was just the way you have described it, easy to read and understand, and of course, learn the beautiful Latin language.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад +1

      That’s great! Thanks for the comment

  • @hmagellanlinux307
    @hmagellanlinux307 4 года назад +24

    So glad I found this video. I didn't realize there was such a huge amount of supplementary material for these books!

  • @gustavokcam
    @gustavokcam 3 года назад +18

    You've got me, Magister. I think "So you really want to learn Latin" is also quite good.

  • @timrichardson4018
    @timrichardson4018 Год назад +5

    Man! I bought the book. Wow! This is amazing! I am reading Latin! I know it's newbie Latin, but this method is incredible. If you pay attention and patiently work with it, you WILL learn to read it and in good time too. It's actually much easier than one would think. Even the grammar lessons are in Latin, but easy to follow. Incredible!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад

      I’m really delighted to hear that, Tim! I agree that it’s truly a remarkable method. Just look what wonders you’ll be reading in Cap34! Hopefully it will inspire you to make it all the way to the end.

  • @sorbonne
    @sorbonne Год назад +5

    I asked classicist friends on Twitter and more than one of them suggested this series. Your enthusiastic presentation and endorsement of the series sealed it for me. I'm looking forward to the adventure. Thank you!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад

      I’m delighted! Enjoy the books, they’re truly special

  • @Marcus_443
    @Marcus_443 3 года назад +12

    I've learned a good amount from your channel reading along and listening. Incredible way of learning.. so simple but effective and natural. I just bought the book Amazon Prime a few mins ago and so it'll be here tomorrow.. cant wait!! AND I bought your entire latin learning lessons! Thank you for making those. I cant wait to visit Roma again and use some of my new skills to talk to myself in the Forum Romanum and imagine life 2,100 years ago. Maybe I'll run into another latin speaker as a plus.

  • @nidegama
    @nidegama 2 года назад +4

    Comprato, grazie per il consiglio. Non ricordo nulla dei due odiati anni di Latino delle scuole superiori. È emozionante tornare a studiare latino per diletto dopo molti anni. A warm hug of appreciation.

  • @johndoe4073
    @johndoe4073 4 года назад +19

    Excellent resources. Also, you are a great presenter/teacher. Your expressiveness and pacing are great. Your transitions between each idea are clear and smooth.

  • @annalirudman2230
    @annalirudman2230 4 месяца назад +1

    You have such a beautiful voice and when speaking in Latin, I can listen to you for hours - your pronunciation astounds me!

  • @umbertomilan1745
    @umbertomilan1745 4 года назад +9

    Wow, study latin and i speak Italian, i found this video very useful. I think you have a good pronunciation of Italian; very good

  • @Pr0SV1p3r
    @Pr0SV1p3r 4 года назад +5

    You provide a gold mine of material, tips, and strategies for learning this otherwise inaccessible yet fundamental language. Gratias Ago!

  • @glenrosarian2352
    @glenrosarian2352 5 месяцев назад +1

    I want the book. I just adore Latin. All my prayers are in Latin. But I want to really learn the language. I love it so much. It's a powerful, logical, and a quite impressive language, and quite rewarding too.

  • @udisonledinho1661
    @udisonledinho1661 4 года назад +7

    Obeviamente estudar latim é fenomenal, é um passaporte para a cultura por exclência e sem falar que proporciona para o estudante uma vasta compreensão em relação aos outros idiomas oriundos do latim.

  • @Pedro-ds3cq
    @Pedro-ds3cq 3 года назад +3

    Awesome. Just found how I'm gonna keep studying Latin. This is so much better than the grammar-translation method. I didn't know this kind of material was available.

  • @Straitsfan
    @Straitsfan Год назад +1

    Bought the book myself. I realize that the beginning sentences are simple, and i know a little bit -- just a little bit -- of Latin words before this, but I tell you I was reading right away and I couldn't believe how easy it is to understand. I do a little bit each day, and I allow myself to think about it and ponder it before going on. This book works for me like no one's business. And I can listen to it on Scorpio Martianus to help with pronunciation.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад

      I’m really glad my ScorpioMartianus voices help too! I felt the same way; LLPSI changed everything for me.

    • @Straitsfan
      @Straitsfan Год назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Another question, Luke -- can you recommend a good latin-english/english-latin dictionary, with macrons? I'd like to have it for reference. My goal is to be able to write in Latin eventually. I also messaged you on instagram, but I don't know how often you go there. My apologies if I'm messaging you too much.

  • @amandagrayson389
    @amandagrayson389 2 года назад +1

    Luke, thanks you for all of your many videos on Latin. You have inspired me to revisit and really learn Latin in a way that was available to me as a university student. Back then (1978-1983), Latin was primarily translating- Latin was a word puzzle and I am TERRIBLE at word puzzles! How amazed and delighted I am to have found people who are actually speaking Latin! I am ready to take on this new adventure. Thanks for the book recommendations.

  • @paulfahn1084
    @paulfahn1084 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this great video! I am a new self-learner of Latin and have been searching through many online resources looking for the best materials to use. This video does a great job explaining what makes this book special. It sounds perfect for self-learners like myself. I just placed an order for the first book, and will follow up with the exercise book soon.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад +1

      I’m delighted! My LLPSI playlist on ScorpioMartianus channel will be helpful

  • @TonyMichaelHead
    @TonyMichaelHead 3 года назад +7

    Getting near the end of Familia Romana, and just came across this video. Super excited for what's to come after Pars I!

  • @stefaniatoya4576
    @stefaniatoya4576 2 года назад

    Finalmente un video con sottotitoli per chi come me parla solo italiano e francese.la pronuncia è talmente fluida e la voce affascinante che da' voglia di imparare il latino. Grazie

  • @ihori779
    @ihori779 3 года назад +1

    I like this book very much too. And what I like best is that it has not a word except the target language. it's much more productive than drilling dull tables of declinations and conjugations.

  • @thomasreiter2367
    @thomasreiter2367 Год назад +1

    You are very generous sharing this info so humbly and emphatically! God bless you!

  • @H0AN1
    @H0AN1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Really enjoy your videos, as a sicilian i have always found at times i can understand latin clearly but never had any interest in it until i started watching your videos. as soon as i saw you talk about the book lingua latina i ordeed my own copy and am really looking forward to becoming a latin speaker. Thank you. look forward to being able to comment on your videos in latin.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  9 месяцев назад +1

      That's wonderful! Really glad to hear that. Enjoy learning Latin! It's worth it.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 месяца назад

      Learn the classical world. As it may be needed to rebuild the current world that is stuck in a rut at present. It was rather classical world that gave us the renaissance and neo classicalism.

  • @Nikena4e
    @Nikena4e 4 года назад +1

    I saw the video with you and 3 other people who tried to guess some words and I found your channel. I still remember Latin even if I ended up studying it 6 years ago. This book that you show it was my school text books in high school for learning Latin and I found it so helpful that I still remember a lot of words. How cool is that? Goodbye from Italy ❤️

  • @scharlachnachtfalter1900
    @scharlachnachtfalter1900 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the audio recordings. I always read along them to practice.

  • @digitalsketchguy7844
    @digitalsketchguy7844 Год назад

    Recently purchased Gwynne's Latin & taking his advice, going slowly through the chapters as I learn by heart all the declensions & conjugations - old school. But I got my copy of Lingua Latina today and it's such a clever concept & hoping It will help fill the gaps because I don't want to be someone who can conjugate all the nouns but fails to read a simple sentence. I salute your dedication to the Latin language and your complementary videos to the book chapters, giving full pronunciation. Thank you!

    • @dalepres1
      @dalepres1 Год назад

      I got mine yesterday and I'm amazed that I'm already reading Latin. It's AWESOME!

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 месяца назад

      Starting Gwynne’s approach and moving then to a more comprehensive use of the language is a much better approach for most people. Gwynne’s Latin is very rigid and requires a student to focus on methods that do not first present any Latin. It means a student is half way through the text before they get simple Latin but it is an extremely powerful approach.

  • @julbombning4204
    @julbombning4204 2 года назад +2

    Okey I’m buying all of them!
    I’m studying Spanish right now and I want to get to a high level before I start with Latin!
    I have studied for 2,5 years now and I have started learning hard words basically only found in literacy.
    I really hope it pays off!

  • @AllAboutTradingCardGames
    @AllAboutTradingCardGames 3 года назад +2

    Thanks to you, I ordered the first Lingua Latina, to start me on my journey! Thanks!

  • @zimboinoz7000
    @zimboinoz7000 2 года назад +1

    I just ordered Familia Romana and Colloquia Personarum today after watching this video. I look forward to them. Thank you!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад

      Great! Enjoy. See my LLPSI playlist on ScorpioMartianus

    • @zimboinoz7000
      @zimboinoz7000 2 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Yep, thank you! I'm considering taking your advice on memorising all of the grammar (conjugations, declensions) before I get into it, though I know it will be hard work.

  • @michaelputman9832
    @michaelputman9832 3 года назад +13

    I used this when teaching Latin at the Summer Language Institute at the Saskatoon Theological Union, the inductive method within was well received and my students made good progress. I suffered through Wheelock's Latin so that they wouldn't have to, I joked.

  • @AnthonyGrain--
    @AnthonyGrain-- 2 года назад

    I'm interested by latin, I talked about this to someone who already studies latin, and he told me he could give his greatest latin textbook. I really wish that it's the one you've presented firsta. I will receive it tomorrow.

  • @mihaibaltag1915
    @mihaibaltag1915 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much, Luke, for such recommandation!! I've first learnt of LLPSI via your RUclips channel and it has since proved to be highly proficient and immensely useful. Thanks a lot, for real!

  • @DavidMorris1984
    @DavidMorris1984 4 года назад +2

    Hi Luke. Big fan of your videos. Done the Duolingo course but realised I'm still very much a beginner. Been watching a chapter a day from your LLPSI playlist and have been able to understand a fair amount (sometimes with the help of Lewis and Short dictionary app). However, this video shows I really need to get the book/ebook. Didn't realise there was so much more. I'd love to get fluent one day, but it's a long journey!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  4 года назад

      David Morris thanks for the comment! 😃 You can do it! Read all those books and you’ll literally be a fluent reader haha

  • @dannyallen2894
    @dannyallen2894 2 года назад

    I got this book in the mail today and did the first chapter! I have studied Latin pretty intensely over the last year both being taught formally and through self-study, but I am excited to use this book as supplemental material/to learn the language in a natural way.

  • @gioia6106
    @gioia6106 2 года назад +1

    Grazie mille per presentarsi questa serie di libri, anche nelle mie lezioni latini usiamo "familia romana" , e mi piace veramente moltissimo❤!

  • @user-yw5jl2wf6h
    @user-yw5jl2wf6h 4 месяца назад

    I'm about halfway through Pars I and Colloquia Personarum. Currently on Cap XIX: Maritus et Uxor. I'll provide an edit/update once I've completed Pars I.
    I can not agree with Luke strongly enough: as someone who is self-teaching Latin, this book series is my best friend for studying Latin, as well as learning how languages as a whole tend to work. It breaks down everything you need to know about the grammar in a slow and easy-to-follow format. The marginal notes are extremely helpful and in my opinion the single best feature Ørberg's style has to offer.
    It's also got a rather surprisingly high entertainment value for a literal textbook. There are parts that are genuinely funny while teaching grammar. There's nothing quite like dropping puns to teach you how minute differences in grammar and spelling can have such a profound effect on the meaning of a sentence.
    And some closing thoughts on LLPSI thus far (again, only at Cap XIX thus far) :
    Mēdus did nothing wrong, Marcus did EVERYTHING wrong, Iulia and Syra deserve better and must be protected at all costs.

  • @AnthonyGrain--
    @AnthonyGrain-- 2 года назад

    Ogni tanto ritorno su questo video perché mi dimentico sempre quando posso leggere un certo libro (è forse la dicesima volta che lo guardo) comunque non è mai noioso sentirti parlare con tanto entusiasmo 🤗

  • @waynewestlake5924
    @waynewestlake5924 2 года назад

    As a language learning aficionado (native Yankee English), one of the best tools I've used was when I was living in South Africa many many years ago and trying to learn Afrikaans. I'd stumbled across an old (1960's) book and cassette tape series by the then Phillips Language Company. There was no English at all. The books had simple drawings and accompanying text solely in Afrikaans, and the tapes dictated them exactly in both male and female voices. No English. No grammer. Simple sentences turned into stories and it was amazing how quickly I was picking it up! The Berlitz tapes I'd been using previously were worthless in comparison. In short time I was able to listen to the tapes during my commute and following along with the fun/interesting stories.
    In learning Russian, re-learning Spanish (from high school days) as well as dabbling with other languages I have not found anything exactly like those old Phillips materials.
    Now I'm back trying to learn Latin since a very painful attempt Freshman year of high school (switched to Spanish the remaining 3 years).
    I'm really enjoying your channel and per your recommendation (used your link!) purchased Familia Romana. After just a few pages I'm hooked! I had already refreshed a few basic words including the conjugation of sum, but that's it, and I'm finding it very easy to understand each new word as it's introduced, building and building.
    What I feel very rusty with though is pronunciation! I've found your LLPSI recordings and thank you so much! I will join your Patreon to show my appreciation for all your hard work.
    Thanks again for all the great videos and recommendations - I'll be sure especially to bookmark this vid!

  • @warbrush
    @warbrush Год назад +1

    Just picked it up. On page 3 and Ive already learned so many mechanics

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад +1

      Nice! I felt the same way the first time I read it

  • @thephilosopher7173
    @thephilosopher7173 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing all of this! I just ordered Lingva Latina and am looking forward to eventually speaking it on your other channel.

  • @user-vr1mp2ef7d
    @user-vr1mp2ef7d Год назад

    Hi from Italy. On the strength of your review, I have just ordered this book in the Spanish version (because my grandson already has the version in Italian; he was taught the Ecclesiastical Latin pronunication) and I want to make some comparisons with the Iberian Romance languages. I also have a Catalan - Latin dictionary which is curious. Thank you Luke.
    Update: Three books arrived, from Big A. ;-) Only the first one was in fact the Spanish edition and the only Spanish text it contained was: "Impreso en España". I have now decided to do something ambitious. I have spoken Italian, French and Spanish since childhood and I have since then learned some Portuguese, Catalan and Romanian, in that order of proficiency. So I am now going to study - as a leisure-time activity - these 3 languages alongside the Latin text, based on the reasoning: if it works for Latin, why not for the modern Romance languages as well? I have no rush and I see from the first page that I can learn something about the similarities and differences between and among these languages, for example the modern languages all have definite articles, while Latin doesn't, etc. Also, Luke will be pleased to read that I am using the macron - not to be confused with the Macron, who lives in Paris - because I have learned from him that the long vowels in Latin have the same importance as double (long) consonants in Italian, eg. IT "dona" = "he/she donates" vs "donna" = "lady, woman". Thanks again Luke. Gratias tibi. Obrigado. Moltes gràcies. Multumesc.

  • @fraso7331
    @fraso7331 3 года назад +1

    In Germany it's forbidden to use it in school. But the most teachers tell their students that using it is the best way to improve their Latin. (In Germany it's not about speaking or reading the language. The students analyse the grammar and vocabulary to receive a better theoratical understanding of languages in general. They have to analyse the Texts like Sherlock Holmes analyses a crime scene even when "reading" the latin version of Asterix.) I couldn't get a copy when I were young. Later I bought one. And it was amzing. I was able to read and to understand it. I even understood the features I didn't understood in school just by reading it.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад +2

      Ich hab das gehört! Das ist ganz schade. Ich freue mich, dass du später LLPSI hattest.

  • @shawna620
    @shawna620 3 года назад

    I have the Familia Romana book & worked through half of it until life got in the way. The supplemental books sound helpful. I love reading/learning about the Romans & while reading translations, I kept thinking how much better it would be in Latin.

  • @m.reissenweber4542
    @m.reissenweber4542 11 месяцев назад +1

    Luke, YOU ARE FANTASTIC! THANK YOU,so much!

  • @daniel-yeshua
    @daniel-yeshua Год назад +1

    Thank you for the description, sir.

  • @jasonvoorheesv1nce904
    @jasonvoorheesv1nce904 2 года назад +1

    I just got both Familia Romana and Colloqvia Personarvm in the mail yesterday, can't wait to read them along with your Lingva Latina videos on your other channel. I don't have the other books you mentioned unfortunately but I hope I can get them sooner or later

  • @rdyt0
    @rdyt0 3 года назад +1

    After a year working thru everything in Wheelock’s Latin, I’m pick up Familia Romana again and start from the beginning. The translation method really messed up my mind when approaching Latin text and it is not the right way if one truly wishes to read fluently in any language. But Wheelock does have merits for me as I feel quite comfortable recognizing all the declensions and conjugations after much brute memorization with it.

  • @28diefee
    @28diefee 4 года назад +5

    I have learned Latin with that book...beautiful times.

  • @giulianabarchiesi6442
    @giulianabarchiesi6442 2 года назад

    I had latin in high school and this was literally the same book we had. We also had a similar system in ancient greek. 😍

  • @artembaguinski9946
    @artembaguinski9946 4 года назад +1

    I wish there were a book like that but starting in a modern language and with every chapter geting more and more old. Like starting from Italian and going back to Latin, then not stopping there all the way to Proto-Indo-European. And once you mastered that you could take another volume from the same series and read it backwards from PIE to say Russian or Persian :-)

  • @mattpinerola5270
    @mattpinerola5270 5 лет назад +10

    Thank you for the great resources on this channel. It’s been a great jumpstart to my Latin learning. Do you have similar recommendations for learning Ancient Greek?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  5 лет назад +5

      Yes! Athenaze Italian version: ruclips.net/video/KnkKZW_dAyg/видео.html

    • @jordanmoravenov
      @jordanmoravenov 3 года назад

      I had the same question and I found there is Lingua Graeca Per Se Illustrata: seumasjeltzz.github.io/LinguaeGraecaePerSeIllustrata/

  • @collinhicks37
    @collinhicks37 5 лет назад +6

    Thank you very much for the suggestion! I'm currently using Wheelock's to learn Latin, but I feel like this will definitely be helpful as well, especially in keeping the language fresh in my mind.
    Also, do you happen to have any suggestions on how to learn to speak the language? I am not having too much difficulty reading and writing it, but it seems to be very difficult for me to speak even simple sentences, much less understand them when they're being spoken to me, so any advice on how to overcome this would be very much appreciated. Thank you!

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  5 лет назад +10

      Hello! Thanks for the comment, and please pardon the delay. As soon as you can, get away from Wheelock, because it has done enormous harm to generations of people wanting to learn Latin - it's pedagogy and Latinity are the worst.
      It is very natural to have difficulty speaking a new language! I first recommend latinandgreekchats.weebly.com ; join us 3 times a week there.
      Also try my audio courses; here is one: www.patreon.com/posts/27896535

    • @alanwhite3154
      @alanwhite3154 2 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke thank you for this. I don't want to make the mistake I was made to make while learning English and German, not focusing and prioritising phonetics.

  • @hjf3022
    @hjf3022 4 года назад +9

    Thank you for doing the recordings of LLPSI, I have been listening to them after reading each chapter, then often while I'm at work. Your pronunciation is fantastic and something worthy of attempting to emulate. You'll likely see me on your Patreon once I reach Roma Aeterna.
    You mention the comprehensible input hypotheses in the video, but then stress the importance of the exercises at the end, and in the supplementary book. But Stephen Krashen, who I'm sure you know, is the most famous proponent, and I believe the coiner of the term 'comprehensible input', tends to dismiss the value of those kinds of things like exercises, as not very helpful, and possibly detrimental to the learning process. What are your thoughts on that?

    • @strangerintheselands251
      @strangerintheselands251 2 года назад

      Krashen does not dismiss exercises nor deliberate learning! So much confusion around the theme. He only said these are not the way that language is acquired. By you have to use conscious learning to polish things up, just as a child who already speaks the language has to start learning about language at some poing to fill the gaps and even out the bumps. No way around it.

    • @hjf3022
      @hjf3022 Год назад

      @@strangerintheselands251 he has mentioned it many times in his talks. I can give you a direct reference. In a recent RUclips chat with Steve Kaufmann on his channel "lingosteve", published August 25 2022, the topic is brought up at 34:15. He describes comprehension questions as "absolutely horrible" and that " nothing would discourage me more than having to answer comprehension questions".

    • @strangerintheselands251
      @strangerintheselands251 Год назад

      @@hjf3022 Not sure what you are trying to say. DId you read my answer to the end? I did not say: Krashen likes doing comprehension questions when reading for understanding or for pleasure. I said: he believes that consciously working with the language is necessary to polish things up and develop high levels. You can separate these two processes in time, you know, acquiring while reading AND working consciously on details. Doing them at the same time is horrible, no doubt.

  • @patricivsmaximvs9180
    @patricivsmaximvs9180 3 года назад +3

    Bárbaros interesados en nuestra Cultura Latina... Quién lo diría...

  • @horriblecovers4748
    @horriblecovers4748 Месяц назад

    great book, im at 17th chapter, but I dont do any exercises and I dont read grammar. my goal is just to understand what is written. as long as I manage to do it, I move on to the next chapter

  • @dalepres1
    @dalepres1 Год назад

    I have read comments and "experts" from various sites and social media platforms criticizing your method and Dowling's method because modern language training seems to be more spoken language and immersion in the spoken/written language than in memorizing grammar. Since I know virtually nothing about it, I can only use weak assertions such as, "seems".
    My question to those critics, when they challenge your teachings, is to show me their books, or where I can take their classes, or where are their youtube channels; if they had them I would happily give their materials open-minded consideration. Since none have any of the above, I can only assume, still, that you know more than them but, even if not, you certainly know far more than me so, at it's worst, it is nothing more than a short delay in my beginning with the books; at it's best, it will be a huge plus in my learning Latin. I've waited 68 years to start my Latin studies so far; what's another few weeks. I started yesterday with your spreadsheet and my copy of Wheelock.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад +1

      Hello sir, thanks for the comment. I’m not aware of any specific criticisms directed toward what I talk about on my channel - nor am I particularly interested in hearing in more detail about it here; such folks are welcome to write to me directly if they want to have a conversation, as I feel that would be more productive - though it’s worth mentioning I don’t have very many original ideas worthy of either critique or praise; as for Dowling, that’s his method and I wanted to popularize it since I had found it effective; my take on his method is just to involve an audio component. I believe my contribution to be an improvement on his method in that involving audio can help the Dowling method to be effective for a wider group of people, but neither my version nor the original are for everyone.
      In my many years of teaching, I have found some students who take to memorization very well, and they are greatly helped by the Dowling method (which is simply to memorize the paradigms before starting Familia Romana); but many others are not, thus their rote memorization of the paradigm is done after they’ve seen the whole thing in context in Familia Romana. The latter is more in common with standard modern language practice (and what I tend to see work best with most people, since few people have the time or stamina to deal with rote memorization, though when they do it is quite effective). The elements are the same; the order is slightly different.
      That said, you’re very kind to give me the benefit of the doubt. Ultimately I think Familia Romana is the text, along with its separate exercise book, that most should consider using to acquire Latin well. The Dowling Method is just a particular on-ramp onto that superhighway, and the Ranieri-Dowling Method is but a different lane on that particular on-ramp.
      My best of wishes to you in your studies!

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 2 месяца назад

      You cannot learn Latin without grasp of grammar and syntax. People that skip it tend to spend several times longer learning Latin as they have to stumble and learn by intuition in the dark.

  • @suem6004
    @suem6004 Год назад +1

    I am confused. You recommended Dowling method of memorization before attempting to read anything so how does the Lingva Latina fit in? Also, that author uses a different declension table order (Nom, Acc, Gen, Dat, Abl) than do the traditional Latin tables (N,Gen, Dat, Acc, Abl). So which order do I memorize? I think grouping the similar endings helpful, personally. I am really hoping you will respond.

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад +1

      Hi Sue. I responded to your other message! Thanks. N G D Acc Abl is superior. The alternative form is one of LLPSI’s downsides

  • @christinastone1770
    @christinastone1770 3 года назад

    My class loves Lingua Latina as does their parents, the best addition to my third year elementary class. Ordering your next two recommendations and dreaming of going to Naples to Academia Vivarium one day.

  • @michelbrassard712
    @michelbrassard712 2 года назад

    I went ahead and ordered the book, and started going through the exercises. So far, it's coming along nicely. The one issue I do have is always forgetting to pronounce the "v" like a "w". I have no idea how they came to the conclusion that the Romans pronounced a "v" like a "w" when it is pronounced like a "v" in the other 5 Romance languages. Truthfully, I'm about ready to just stick with pronouncing the "v" like a "v".

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад

      Salut, Michel. I made a video for you here:
      ruclips.net/video/hovf-UK-toQ/видео.html
      There are indeed modern Romance languages that pronounce v as English w. Thus it is also in Classical Latin.
      If you pronounce v as in French, then you have to do the same the the b between vowels. Otherwise it’s not any form of Latin that existed

  • @Notaffiliated64
    @Notaffiliated64 2 года назад

    Hope I can be very fluent in Latin so I am able to learn multiple other languages and get in touch with my Holy Roman ancestry. Thank You for the Recommendation.

  • @emersonrizzi4294
    @emersonrizzi4294 4 года назад

    Salve Luke, thank you so much for this video. I have been studying Latin for some years now and have come across Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata, but have not got the other supplementary books which I will indeed now get and use.

  • @CJ-ru8ns
    @CJ-ru8ns 2 года назад

    This video was very helpful for me to find material to study. Gratias tibi Lucius

  • @JEspin2024
    @JEspin2024 3 года назад +3

    How many hours a day and how many days did you spend studying each chapter?

  • @MonsteFun425
    @MonsteFun425 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for this video, that will be SO helpful to me ! I will purchase immediately some of these books ! If by chance you have this kind of references, or equivalencies for Greek, it would be with pleasure !🌻

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад

      Thanks! I recommend you check out my Ancient Greek in Action course on my other channel ruclips.net/p/PLU1WuLg45Six4gYLaBrTAIvfjXWKJ1EkN

  • @larsfrisk6658
    @larsfrisk6658 3 года назад +6

    I really like this format, are you aware of books/series like this for other languages?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад +3

      Ayan Academy has some of the other Nature Method books

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh Год назад +1

    Excellent and the stories are interesting.

  • @markpolo97
    @markpolo97 3 года назад +2

    I have used this book since 2001 with great success. Unfortunately, last year a freshly-baked new teacher came to our school and basically leveraged us into using a standard German text (prima! nova), since this old book is so "unattractive to modern students" (personally got a lot more laughs and engagement from the students with Ørberg). And I'm left having to use that… :-(

  • @krumelmonster314
    @krumelmonster314 Год назад

    Why don't my teachers use these books? Latin would be much more fun. We learn how to translate texts but I spend most of the time learning vocabulary (up to 5 meanings for one word). I constantly have to revise the vocabulary otherwise I would fail the tests. But the books help me a lot ❤️ Learning languages through reading actually works. It helped me a lot to learn English

  • @Sebastian_Herrera124
    @Sebastian_Herrera124 3 года назад

    I’m currently in high school and learning French. I was wondering if there was a French version of these books. P.S I really love the Latin videos, keep doing what you love

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад

      Yes, out of print in PDF form on the Vivarium website

  • @user-lk4xd2or6f
    @user-lk4xd2or6f 4 года назад +3

    I noticed you didn’t mention any of Jeanne Neumann’s companion books to Familia Romana or Roma Aeterna. I’m tempted to buy them along with the exercise books, given their ratings on amazon and their length. Have you read them or found them useful?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  4 года назад +5

      I don't recommend them at all. The point of the book is to understand everything in context. This is an important part of the challenge. If you're truly hung up on something, it's better to ask at reddit.com/r/latin and talk with people.

  • @vandersonreges9424
    @vandersonreges9424 2 года назад

    My friend said that in the school for priests (I don't know how to say "simário" in English) which he wants to go to, they use that book to learn latin.

  • @joshuacantin514
    @joshuacantin514 2 года назад

    Ah, given this and how easy it was to understand your first video of the LLPSI, you have convinced me! I have now gotten a copy of LLPSI and increased the priority of my learning Latin :P I am not giving up on Chinese and Ancient Greek, but LLPSI is so enticing and fun, I can't resist it
    Along side LLPSI, would you recommend spaced repetition software (like Anki) for the LLPSI vocab or do you find that enough spaced repetition is built into LLPSI already?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  2 года назад

      That’s great, Joshua! This is the other thing I recommend ruclips.net/video/_yflqUWKVVc/видео.html
      Stay tuned to my content in the coming months for materials for AG. By then you’ll have finished FR

  • @kevindanks2162
    @kevindanks2162 Год назад

    I've started Pars I and I have the Colloquia Personarum and the Exercitia. I've already realised something about how I learn, which is that although the LLPSI method is good, I will get more out of it with some supplemental grammar - for example, in Cap II the genitive case is introduced and it is explained in the Grammatica Latina, but it helped me to read an explation of the genitive in English and to have a separate declension table open on my desk as a kind of instant visual reinforcement of what I'm reading in Famila Romana.
    I've seen another video of yours in which you say you originally started with the Dowling approach and I've found your web page about the Ranieri-Dowling method. Do you still recommend your version of Dowling's "brute memorisation" technique as a first step, because you don't mention it here? I think it might suit my learning style, given what I've discovered so far from Cap I and II.

  • @Stoirelius
    @Stoirelius 2 года назад

    I have recently bought Familia Romana and Roma Aeterna to begin my studies (spent a log of money!) and now I just discovered all of those amazing supplements. Damn man, I don’t have the money to buy all of those 😭
    I guess I’m gonna have to download them, which sucks…

  • @SwedishSinologyNerd
    @SwedishSinologyNerd Год назад +2

    I've just gotten the Lingua Latina per se Illiustrata series and loving it so far! Is there a similar series for Ancient Greek as well?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  Год назад +1

      I’m working on the AG one

    • @SwedishSinologyNerd
      @SwedishSinologyNerd Год назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke "Working on" as in "working on the video talking about a good Ancient Greek textbook series", or are you WRITING the book series yourself? either way, I'm excited and looking forward to it! =D

  • @lesilluminations1
    @lesilluminations1 5 лет назад

    I forgot to mention the Colloquia Personarum you talked about above but it goes without saying that I will read it before the ones I listed below.

  • @annagattellari85
    @annagattellari85 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thankyou so much for this video ❤️👋

  • @Rogerio.Alexander
    @Rogerio.Alexander 7 месяцев назад +1

    I just finished Familia Romana and today started Amphitryo, I'm really frustrated because its a lot of new vocabulary in each page.

  • @briviodarren7773
    @briviodarren7773 2 месяца назад

    Salve Luke, I want to learn latin just by this book series without memorizing the conjugations like you've explained in the ranieri-dowling method because i find in very boring. Is it possible to rrach fluency just by this series and all its supplements?

  • @UrskogTrolle
    @UrskogTrolle 4 года назад

    I got to tell you that after watching this video I logged on to Amazon and they have available a few pages that you can read for free before purchasing, so I did read those pages and I immediately agreed with you. It is by far the best textbook I've seen. I so wish I could find similar textbooks in German, Spanish and other languages I'm interested in.
    Anyway, so I bought the Kindle-version, downloaded the Kindle-app to my iPhone and downloaded the book there and now I'm just going to watch the rest of this video for the second time before I start reading it. (I had to go back here because you also recommend a bunch of other books, but alas, none of them seem to be available as ebooks nor will they be shipped to Sweden)
    EDIT:
    I'm also wondering what would be the best strategy. Should I read like a chapter per day and let that chapter simmer or should I just plow through as much as I want? What are your opinions/recommendations? (You and everybody reading this comment)

    • @Michail_Chatziasemidis
      @Michail_Chatziasemidis 4 года назад +1

      I usually start with a Capitulum, I read it and listen to it every day until I complete all the Pensa and the Exercitia. Then, I listen to the Colloquium and read the Capitulum's corresponding Fabella from the Fabellae Latinae free pdf. The day afted I finish studying the Capitulum in all its books, I start with the next one.

    • @UrskogTrolle
      @UrskogTrolle 4 года назад

      @@Michail_Chatziasemidis Thank you!

  • @lukekieser8855
    @lukekieser8855 3 года назад +2

    This is a really helpful progression for Latin. Do you have a recommended progression for Greek as well?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад +1

      I do! ruclips.net/video/_01-p-34g1Y/видео.html

    • @lukekieser8855
      @lukekieser8855 3 года назад

      I mean in terms of a list of books, what book to read first, then next. Like the different parts you have in the description here.

    • @lukekieser8855
      @lukekieser8855 3 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke what about a list of books to read, like how you have here the different parts and which ones to read first

  • @msinvincible2000
    @msinvincible2000 4 года назад +1

    I'm curious: who decides what words should be used in Latin for modern things (like DVD, soccer, movie, etc) ? For example in France it the Académie Française that decides those things

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  4 года назад +6

      We all do! We have to know Latin very well for such decisions. We use neolatinlexicon.org

    • @msinvincible2000
      @msinvincible2000 4 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Thankyou for the reply. It's quite a democratic system :)

  • @claudiob.7528
    @claudiob.7528 4 года назад +4

    Que homem charmoso :)

  • @ethancharlette1084
    @ethancharlette1084 4 года назад +1

    I have it in black and white though...

  • @kevinmasalangoy5028
    @kevinmasalangoy5028 4 года назад +2

    So I could learn latin with that book including the proper pronunciations and the awesome sound you have when pronouncing it?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  4 года назад +1

      Yes! With my playlist here ruclips.net/p/PLU1WuLg45SiyrXahjvFahDuA060P487pV

    • @kevinmasalangoy5028
      @kevinmasalangoy5028 4 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke thank you. I would try to find the book in my country.

    • @b.m.4345
      @b.m.4345 4 года назад

      @FichDichInDemArsch Use the Athénaze series.

  • @Alaedious
    @Alaedious 2 года назад +1

    Ciao Luca! Have you ever made a video explaining how you went about learning your Latin with Familia romana?
    A possible link to such a video?
    I sure wish I had a translation of the work because I'd love to learn it like I do with Assimil.
    Thanks for your help!

  • @LuisSantos-us1ww
    @LuisSantos-us1ww 3 года назад +1

    I already bought mine. :)

  • @svenhaheim
    @svenhaheim 2 года назад

    Curious, when you first started out with Lingva Latina how long did it take you before you felt you could start really understanding the contents of the book and how long after could you engage in basic conversation ?

  • @arieljgrasky3370
    @arieljgrasky3370 3 года назад

    Lucius, can you teach me why Portuguese has so many vowel rules similar to Hebrew? Perhaps even Spanish and French? Thanks! You are amazing!!!!!!

  • @johnshumate8112
    @johnshumate8112 3 года назад +1

    Were you able to fluently speak Latin as soon as you finished the book? Or did you just understand Latin after reading, and you had to keep working to speak it?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  3 года назад

      I was a fluent reader; speaking was good because I recited the whole book to myself. See my Extensive Reading video, and my Learn Latin Live playlist

  • @Mrairsoft683
    @Mrairsoft683 4 года назад +4

    Are this good for starters without previous experience?

    • @polyMATHY_Luke
      @polyMATHY_Luke  4 года назад +4

      Yes! It's perfect. You can see the whole series here: ruclips.net/p/PLU1WuLg45SiyrXahjvFahDuA060P487pV

    • @Mrairsoft683
      @Mrairsoft683 4 года назад

      @@polyMATHY_Luke Thanks a lot just bought the first one

  • @DINSDAY77
    @DINSDAY77 3 года назад

    I could not agree more, I wish other languages did this