Gerber Center-Drive Vs. Leatherman Wave Multitool comparison
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- My old Leatherman Wave Vs the new Gerber Center-Drive. Which is better?
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Very biased and stupid
Thank you for letting me know I’m stupid. I had no idea!
@@rjsprojects You're so stupid, you forgot biased. ;))
These comments made me laugh 🤣. you did a good job with video. I need a belt clip on my multi tool because i don't like carrying a little pouch set on my belt. Both great tools but i take the wave because it's build quality, scissors, smaller size, which fits better in the pocket.
You're getting back on the track Gerber, don't give up, but you're still not in the same league as LEATHERMAN !
Great vid thank you ! Kind of amused by the fact that that nail destroyed the cutters on the pliers because they advertised the center drive over the wave for "heavy duty work, like man work"...
I have a wave from gen 1 patent pending and is currently on my 3rd replacement wave plus. Love it and will not go for any other!
This review is so fun to watch!! Thanks.
Its all about What Application you work on... Agreed the Carbide Cutter shouldn't be used for cutting a nail hence "Rotatable carbide wire cutters & strippers". The Gerber Diesel Black Milspec edition has a better suited Cutter if you choose to cut a nail and its Cheaper than the Center drive. After going though at least 3 Different Leathemans in the past and having different components break on each I switched to Gerber. I have 2. 1 large profile and 1 smaller. The Material for the Housing, Tools and Blades is UNBEATABLE. I did a Hardness test at one point. I was adding a Key Ring cutout to one part of my Smaller Gerber. It took a diamond tip bit to finally bite into the metal. Very hard and very Durable Blades are composed of this same Durable Steel a Bitch to sharpen but once sharp, they stay sharp and cutt like nobodies business. I want a beefy Tool. Gerber Delivers that all day long. Gerber Started in 1939 and Leatherman about 1974. Albeit Gerber didnt start making multi-tools until much later it is time honored name and Long Standing Company. Leathermans IMO are and always will be a POS.
David Carlson lol defend your brand, justify your purchase.
Love to have a regular quarter inch bit drive in my wave +.. if you can figure out a way to put one in let us know.
I ❤the Blast and the Wave both have rock solid took sets😏
Yea I thought the Center Drive was a good idea with the 1/4 industry standard hex bit capability...but the price really through me off its trail. Plus the cutters breaking on yours, thats not just a fluke. Ive seen so many now break on stuff much smaller than that nail. The serrated blade comes dull as hell from all accounts. Just too much downside's, and with that center driver being its only real upside...its just not enough to warrant the price they are asking. Good review though.
I love the leatherman surge
I have the super tool 300 with bit adapter from Leatherman and I have the Gerber Center drive. Honestly I like the Center drive just because of the driver. I paid 70 for my center drive at walmart
Maybe it is because I've viewing this 3 years later but I don't see it mentioned that your nail test is bogus since it is a wire cutter, not a nail cutter. I find the "wire cutter" on the leatherman wave (which I own) is useless to me since the wire cutters I use need to be sharp to be able to JUST strip off the insulation of the wire, to prepare it to crimp a connector on it. I would be curious to see if the gerber wire cutter is sharp enough to do that. If so it would be superior to my use since NO multi-tool out there is capable of that.
I couldn't continue testing the multitool stripper after it broke, but some 12ga copper wire was next. A lot of people use these types of tools for cutting that they are not normally suited for. Maybe you need to cut some fencing wire or other material that is not copper. I can cut and strip copper wire with a pocket knife, but I cant cut barbed wire off a deer tangled in a fence on the side of a highway with a pocket knife. I carry a multi tool because it's a tool that's medium good at a lot of things, and I want that tool to be the best version of that tool. That's why I cut nails.
Interesting how a multi tool gets so many different opinions. But guess you are right... I'll get a wave.
Just a simple question, why would you need to cut a nail with wire cutters? Never ran across this problem in a real life situation. And I use my multi tools on a daily. And it seems as if you dull em out at least you can replace the wire cutters cutting edge by either rotating them. My leatherman waves wire cutter is dull after years of use and I don't want to send them in to get sharpened. The screwdrivers on my leatherman are trash, the small flathead rolled on me on the first time I used it and I didn't use it to pry, and the file straight broke in half on the first year of use. Sent it in for warranty repairs and they kept it for 8 weeks which is bull. If you're going to compare a one-handed tool with another one handed tool you should compare it to the Leatherman oht. Was going to buy one but saw too many bad reviews.
Hahahaha wave don't have small flat screwdriver!!! 😂 😂
Have a large flat and medium flat on the bit side (these is made of tool steel) and microscrewdriver bit.
But don't have a normal small flat screwdriver of 420hc steel
There wirecutters not nail cutters lol..
Does the Gerber pinch your hands like the Leatherman?
Don't hold the tool so close to the plier head, unless you have baby hands then the problem is solved.
Gerber Centerdrive is their foray into the high end premium multi tool market. It is gimmicky, it is more flash than substance. I collect multi tools and my ultimate fav is the Leatherman Surge, more or less the wave on steroids with a few additional functionalities. I have several Gerber tools, the MP400 is my favorite of the Gerbers. It is basic, compact and useful. I did just order a Wave to save weight in EDC pocket carry scenarios. The general price point of Gerber is around 50-60$ at most. The Centerdrive is overpriced,, and will not join my collection unless i can find one cheap. Among my tools is the Surge, MUT, Crunch, Wave, Skeletool, Micra, Raptor (scissors),bit extender and full 40 bit kit. Gerber-MP400, Suspension, Mini Suspension P and the S. Snap-On Multitool, SOG Powerassist, Havalon Evolv (with scalpel), and several other knives and misc tools. I may get a Victorinox, they seem to review well. Point is out of all of the tools i have, the Leatherman Surge and the SOG powerassist are my 2 main Go-To guys for any time i carry a tool. On the bike i always have the Surge and bit kits, plus several attachments i made or adapted myself for the surge. Center Drive is Gerber trying to lure away devout Leatherman owners with a flashy gimmick, and Grab a piece of the premium market. Its an interesting failed concept.
Of course it's stainless steel, if you look above the lock near the top where the pliers deploy, it has Stainless stamped on the steel. I have the CD as well as many Leathermans. I honestly prefer Gerber well over Leatherman. Leatherman is made with soft steel, The Super Tool 300 is supposed to be their Heavy Duty multitool but failed miserably when I tried to fix a mountain bike with it, the pliers started to twist, also a flathead got stripped taking out a screw, I decided to use my Gerber MP600 and was able to do the job and other jobs as well without stopping to see if anything went wrong like with the Leatherman, and I have to say, If you're not a Tradesman, or someone who's always fixing things, then you really don't know how truly weak Leatherman really is. There is a reason why U.S. and Canadian military use Gerber products like the MP600.
Why is it that nobody comparing Gerber Center Drive to Leatherman Wave will open the Leatherman ALL THE WAY, a full 180 degrees? Do this, with the needlenose pointing away from the screwdriver bit holder, and you are holding a comfortable 8 inch screwdriver that is better centered than the Center Drive. Even the original PST will open 180 degrees.
This comment is insane and I do not endorse this method of driving screws with the Leatherman.
You must be new at this. I have only bern doing it since Leatherman first came on the market. Sure, you can drive screws with the tool closed, but the price of a"bigger handle" is an awkward screwdriver that has isdues in close quarters. I have also used the Leatherman screwdriver with one handle open 90 degrees for greater torque (yes you can develop enough torque this way to damage tools, so use discretion).
I've been using my LM Surge in open extended position forever. Both screwdriver and awl.
With the bit extension you can use quarter inch bits, and you have longer reach than the CenterDrive. And in open handle position, yoy can get into narrow spaces.
Gerber's brittle cutters break for everyone. My older and much cheaper Gerber Suspension is far more robust.
Problem with the LM Wave is that useless tiny screwdriver, and no awl. No good for serious bushcraft. Ditch the mini-screwdriver, add an awl, and provide the 1/4" extender to the price.
Thanks...
The carbide cutters are terrible. But im sure there are after market ones too. What i dont like about the centre drive is, one, no can opener, two, no sawblade, three, cheap pliers, carbide cutters included, a lot of flex in the pliers in terms of a twisting motion. Id say the centre drive is really a jobsite tool. For an electrician itd really come in handy. The nail puller/bottle opener is a good idea but not necessary. I like the length of the knife, its longer than a leatherman. The blade in the centre drive feels a little better in the hand, and the black piece on the other side is a thumb rest, which is neat. All in all, i prefer my signal to my centerdrive, but i carry my centerdrive on the jobsite, but my signal everywhere else.
Many fans of the Center Drive argue that it is not designed to cut nails. That's not saying much, though. For its size, I should be able to, since Gerber marketed it as a heavy duty tool. It failed to cut a nail, shattering the cutters, while the Wave cut it like a toothpick.
@Marshall Kinnaird I have the Surge with the replaceable cutters and they cut nails just fine. I don't like cutting such hard material with them , but its nice knowing they can in a pinch. I also prefer the tool options on the Surge , as it suits my needs better
@Marshall Kinnaird I thought of getting the Super Tool, but the bit exchanger on the Surge sold it for me
Many long-term Leatherman users have gotten great use out of the file. Far more complaints about the Gerber files. The diamond file is NOT a fingernail file.
Gerber cutters are uneven, often being brittle. That said, cutting nails is not appropriate. Many small cutters break or are damaged cutting nails. Though brittleness is indeed still a flaw.
Leatherman does have a bit adapter extender which fits easily into the case, takes all standard bits, and gives a reach as good as the CentreDrive.
If you leave the Leatherman handles extended, you can not only get greater reach than the Gerber CD, but you can get into tighter spaces.
Check out Leatherman files again. Why are they liked by so many? Perhaps you think of them as manicure files?
And stop using little multi tools for snipping nails!
Thanks for the review.
Should have used the Thumb grip to cut the leather. More control and pressure.
That little cutter is probably carbide, too brittle to "cut" steel nail. It'd be fine fine for wire though, I'd imagine.
Yes, I looked into it more after a filmed the video. The cutting insert looks like it could be a carbide insert for lathe tools. If so, then this is the worst possible application for this cutting head. As you can see in my video, it's far too brittle for cutting steel wire (or nails in my example). You could argue that it's for copper only, but if that was the case, they could have simply had a regular steel cutting face in these pliers as that is also suitable for copper. For comparison, leatherman cutter inserts in similar multitools like the Rebar, are made from 154CM stainless. Which is more suited to regular cutting tasks.
Should compare it to the surge and there is a black version.
Black surge is the one for you bro!!
Dang gerber, I love the look and price of a lot of your stuff, but seriously? What are those wire cutters made out of? Potatoes?
HAHAHA, I just looked at the leatherman OHT.... www.leatherman.com/oht-49.html. It has the same replaceable wire cutter!!....can it cut a nail!!
Ok. So let's say your on a road trip across the desert and you pick up an annoying hitch-hiker, or visa-versa. You have to swap out door cards, dash switches, replace the roof lining and disassemble the seat belt mechanism.
Leatherman makes a superior product
@Marshall Kinnaird they just came out with several and they look fantastic
Gerber center drive hands down better than the leatherman wave
The only big problem with gerber centerdrive are the carbide wire cutters.
Are terrible!! All brokers with normal use and in Europe only one seller sell the replacement of carbide wire cutter. And for. 30 euros!!!
If gerber change these terribile thing, centerdrive is the best heavy duty multitool in a working environment.
There's nothing wrong with that Wave file. Maybe the problem is you!!
You cut the nail too close to the edge of the triangular cutter that's why it snapped, you didn't center it!!! Funny, I have NO problems with my Center Drive and I've cut a few nails with it already!!! But I do agree with you, they should have put a saw over a stupid useless serrated knife. I do not agree that the CD is heavy and clunky, the Surge is the heaviest multitool out there and very clunky!!! The Center Drive is overpriced like Leatherman but the better Gerber MP600 is cheaper than Leatherman and That is the best multitool I have ever used, Period!! I would not pay $200 for a stupid Leatherman Mut, THAT is ridiculous!!!
You are trying to cut a nail with a multi-tool, and I would not do that with that tool. I have three other multi-tools and the other multi-tools I have is made in China, and is not all stainless steel. I decided to buy the Gerber brand because of it's features and because it is American made. The rest of those I have is made in China, and is junk with only the knife blade being of any real use over time. I even have one multi-tool with an axe included on it, but it is made in China also.
bought the center drive.... want a tool for film/grip work
it feels cheap.. like it'll fall apart. nice design but clunky. missing sizzors...
yeah.. I guess it is overpriced
Of course gerber knife is stainless steel. 420hc
The gerber blade is also made of junk mystery steel. When you need a pare of plyers pick up a surge and move on
Gerber's site says it's 420hc steel like the Surge, but I have my doubts. Either way the cutters are shit and break on even soft material. On their site it has a majority one star, with the masses saying they shatter too easily. Surge is what I carry at work . Rugged and reliable
Some are 420hc, and some are Chinese steel
Blah blah blah blah. Get to the point. Who cares about weight? Are you lightwight backpacking? Who cares about blade angle? Does it hold a edge?
When you want to buy a blade sharpener- you care about blade angle