Guaranteed this the wiretap used for the inspiration of the scene in the movie casino when the Nicky santoro ( Tony spilotro) character threatens Mr Clark the banker who owes santoro ( spilotro) money. The dialogue is similar and the real life Tony spilotro was never caught on wiretap talking like this and the mobster jimmy inendino like spilotro was also in the chicago mafia
@@bettertimeschi Hey you are welcome, keep the great videos coming. Also feel free to contact me. If you ever wanna shoot the shit about history. I will keep looking out for your new videos, have a positive night and stay safe.
The guy definitely isn't paying 10% a week. Guys charge 2%-5% a week. Sometimes it does go higher but only if it's meant to be a really short term deal which this doesn't seem to be given that he said "you have that $200 in this place every Friday". He probably lent the guy $10,000 at 2% weekly interest and the guy clearly wasn't taking things seriously prior to this phone call. Guys aren't going to call you and threaten you like this on your first slip up. They might say something to you when you come in later on but not like this. The debtor in this situation was playing games and the guy finally had enough.
Absolutely the same breed. It’s all one Cosa Nostra and them and the Genovese are the most secretive and disciplined families in the country from the 30s to the present day
People who like the mob genre tend to focus on the New York families but The Outfit was way more powerful and dangerous than any of the New York families at their peaks. Guys like Tony Accardo and Paul Ricca were legendary gangsters. Accardo had 10 guys killed that burglarized his house while he was on vacation. Don't get me wrong the O Block guys are a dangerous street gang but they look like choir boys compared to the hitmen The Outfit had. Guys like Tony Spilotro had more bodies than O Block had as a whole. Very different type of hits though cause in a war like the one O Block was in there's no walking guys in to a room under false pretenses it's jumping out and gunning them down in the street. The mob guys they can just call you in to a meeting and when you walk in the room they shoot you when you aren't looking. Chicago guys definitely built different that's for sure.
@@audiofeinz5754These “tough” guys fail to understand that. I’m sure he knew exactly who he was dealing with BEFORE he said it. The mafia is exaggerated.
1:03 Initially I thought he didn't make sense. He said 'if we don't see you tomorrow by 6 o'clock you don't owe nobody nothing.' Then I realised he's a grammarian (an expert in grammar) because he used a double negative, so his statement made complete sense.
That is what you call 📞 a nice little mixture of a businessman, gangster, and above all a gentleman!!! BA Bye 👋 that Ba Bye left me with a nice reassuring feeling , everything is go to be alright with me and Jimmy (after threatening to Crack 206 bones) and although Johhny Rossi likes to embellish and exaggerate ( with his bare hand he stopped a Tiger 🐅 from attacking, it's in his book, wow dude is 7whatever, and achieved internet fame, out of all places , Vlad TV 📺 ha ha ha) one strong fact , was he was tight with a big shot, Frank The Prime Minister Costello. And I believe he did have beef with Anthony Spilotro and John Gotti. Plus it's in the newspaper 📰 that he killed a man in his club. But that other guy, Lucky Luciano s supposed newpjew, is straight Fugazi. They are people in the comment section who know him, an say he is not even a wanna be, he a nobody 😢😢😢 really sad
Who is Johnny Rossi? I tried to find him on VladTV and there's nothing with him. Also, he's not mentioned in this video. So, just curious where that came from.
If word gets out that he can be stiffed, nobody will pay him. That $200 is probably $1000 today. Imagine a dozen guys stiffing you on $1000 each week. Then he can't kick up to his boss and gets whacked.
Wow that casual “buh bye” at the end threw me off guard 😳😳
😂 that's what I said right
I work in retail and that's not how you ask for payment from a customer. I'd have written a strong letter of complaint to his employer.
Now its called a payday loan.
Do they still break every bone in your body if you can't pay the interest?
Gotta love dat Chicago Aaaccent
Guaranteed this the wiretap used for the inspiration of the scene in the movie casino when the Nicky santoro ( Tony spilotro) character threatens Mr Clark the banker who owes santoro ( spilotro) money. The dialogue is similar and the real life Tony spilotro was never caught on wiretap talking like this and the mobster jimmy inendino like spilotro was also in the chicago mafia
The big man little man talk, been on both sides 😂
😂ok ba bye... like it's just another business call
I doubt this is the first time Jim has had to make a similar call to Chuck. But you can tell Jim likes him
@@bettertimeschi no doubt
It is only Business.
@@yourlocalbossman1359 not "only" but serious business
@@bettertimeschiwho’s the guy he was talking too?
classic lol great channel man
Thank you!
@@bettertimeschi Hey you are welcome, keep the great videos coming. Also feel free to contact me. If you ever wanna shoot the shit about history. I will keep looking out for your new videos, have a positive night and stay safe.
Wow dope show bro
Anybody know if the guy made it by 6?
Nah they made him a jelly fish
Gianni Russo stepped in and squashed the debt
I'm sure that's what he told you.
I always wondered who made that call after watching it on the UK Thames TV documentary called Crime Inc.
So do the math. 200$ a week juice is 10%. That’s just the interest (juice) in Chicago, vig in NY
200k
The guy definitely isn't paying 10% a week. Guys charge 2%-5% a week. Sometimes it does go higher but only if it's meant to be a really short term deal which this doesn't seem to be given that he said "you have that $200 in this place every Friday". He probably lent the guy $10,000 at 2% weekly interest and the guy clearly wasn't taking things seriously prior to this phone call. Guys aren't going to call you and threaten you like this on your first slip up. They might say something to you when you come in later on but not like this. The debtor in this situation was playing games and the guy finally had enough.
😂😂😂😂 ok bye. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bo way...
Chicago gangsters are a different breed. They some damn bullies. The Outfit was bullying vegas, O Block was bullying the radio stations
Absolutely the same breed. It’s all one Cosa Nostra and them and the Genovese are the most secretive and disciplined families in the country from the 30s to the present day
People who like the mob genre tend to focus on the New York families but The Outfit was way more powerful and dangerous than any of the New York families at their peaks. Guys like Tony Accardo and Paul Ricca were legendary gangsters. Accardo had 10 guys killed that burglarized his house while he was on vacation. Don't get me wrong the O Block guys are a dangerous street gang but they look like choir boys compared to the hitmen The Outfit had. Guys like Tony Spilotro had more bodies than O Block had as a whole. Very different type of hits though cause in a war like the one O Block was in there's no walking guys in to a room under false pretenses it's jumping out and gunning them down in the street. The mob guys they can just call you in to a meeting and when you walk in the room they shoot you when you aren't looking. Chicago guys definitely built different that's for sure.
His nickname is Jimmy Icepick for a good reason.
@@anthonyrobbins9778disciplined how?
"Alriiiight Jim." 🤣
You know it's bad when they use 'that m@derfuk@' instead of your name when they ask for you on the phone.
Even funnier the guy on the other end knew who was talking about 😂
@@joetamburello6292 🤣
this is very intimadating. You would have to have balls the size of cows if you refuse to pay up,
Only to you bud. Everyone can get a gun
@@audiofeinz5754 Exactly
@@audiofeinz5754These “tough” guys fail to understand that. I’m sure he knew exactly who he was dealing with BEFORE he said it. The mafia is exaggerated.
Cows don't have balls !
You understand
1:03 Initially I thought he didn't make sense. He said 'if we don't see you tomorrow by 6 o'clock you don't owe nobody nothing.' Then I realised he's a grammarian (an expert in grammar) because he used a double negative, so his statement made complete sense.
A dead man has no debts
Did he bring him the 200 at 6:00?
did he get the 200?
All that over $200 dang
That's just the weekly interest. Probably a $10K loan. That would be like $50K now.
@@nastypiglosi1788 I disagree but thank GD I live in America where we can have different opinions!!!! I LOVE THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone know who Mike is?
Mike Sarno
@@JOEYD22222 that was Sarno?! What was he like 12 back then? And who was the debtor he was talking to?
Micheal corleone
Mike Ditka
Did he get the $200 ?
Did Chuck ever paid Jimmy that 200 dollars at 6pm. What he supposed to have for him. I'm just asking.
I doubt its 200 bucks lololol
@@fitchner9406lotta money back then
@@fitchner9406yeah it is supposed to be that every week for however long so it was a bigger total.
It'll be $200. It's a weekly payment. Remember to account for inflation.
“Is dat muddafu**a dare? “
Are you in the CHICAGO UNDERWORLD: kings,clowns......group ?
Is this a Facebook thing? I don’t have FB if so
That is what you call 📞 a nice little mixture of a businessman, gangster, and above all a gentleman!!! BA Bye 👋 that Ba Bye left me with a nice reassuring feeling , everything is go to be alright with me and Jimmy (after threatening to Crack 206 bones) and although Johhny Rossi likes to embellish and exaggerate ( with his bare hand he stopped a Tiger 🐅 from attacking, it's in his book, wow dude is 7whatever, and achieved internet fame, out of all places , Vlad TV 📺 ha ha ha) one strong fact , was he was tight with a big shot, Frank The Prime Minister Costello. And I believe he did have beef with Anthony Spilotro and John Gotti. Plus it's in the newspaper 📰 that he killed a man in his club. But that other guy, Lucky Luciano s supposed newpjew, is straight Fugazi. They are people in the comment section who know him, an say he is not even a wanna be, he a nobody 😢😢😢 really sad
Raimondi fake military service for sure stolen valor
Who is Johnny Rossi? I tried to find him on VladTV and there's nothing with him. Also, he's not mentioned in this video. So, just curious where that came from.
Did he pay😂
After he changed his underwear
Ok buh bye lol
All those threats over $200 bucks😉
200k. Too much to say over phone
200 every week, which is probably just enough to cover the interest on his original loan he’ll never be able to repay.
Its not just about 200 bucks. A good Shy can bank hard. If you saw the big picture you would easily understand.
If word gets out that he can be stiffed, nobody will pay him. That $200 is probably $1000 today. Imagine a dozen guys stiffing you on $1000 each week. Then he can't kick up to his boss and gets whacked.
It's 200 grand that's known
Jimmy won't do nothin if you go to the FBI
Keep telling yourself that as you lay in your ICU bed
That's Jimmy the weasel
Jimmy Fratiano is a different guy,who ratted
Lmao no it ain’t. It’s Jimmy I, Inendino.
This is Jimmy the Icepick
The end
Legend has it chuck is still trying to find 200k
It was $200 surely. He expected it every week. Taking inflation into account that'd probably be something like $2k in today's money