Would you say localizers are being the real racists by mistranslating with their ideologies? Thought it ws bad enough when WB Kids censored the anime back then
She didn't even answer the question. Her entire 'response' consisted of insulting the guy. It was simply an elaborate way of saying "I'm sorry that you hate women and that you're an incel"
The messed up part is this whole slew of stuff just makes me dislike and hate the ladies in the anime commuinty.... and I imagine I'm not alone. Damn near everything else caters to ladies , how entitled and insecure do you have to be to do this to the hobby?
@@keonkla I'll admit that I'm of a similar mindset nowadays because of localizers and the such. I'm much more suspicious (at the minimum) of most anyone who says they like a series and follow it. Most of my friends who I know already are of the few rare exceptions in my mind but most anyone else I see who says they're a fan of Y thing (I'll say Halo since that's a series I grew up with), I have to stop myself a little bit from effectively interrogating them on basic knowledge of the series (i.e. how do you fight the final boss in Halo 2).
That's the literal answer, though. They did it to video games, comics, movies and TV shows... Remember: gatekeeping is a good thing, and we should have done a lot more of it.
It's reminiscent of the attitude of Patreon who, if you remember the interviews their guy was doing around the time of people being removed due to their politics, act like the money that goes through their site is theirs.
Their arrogance is astounding. "You're not my customer" is what I've seen them say, too. But the fans ARE the customers. They are the market that the localizer is localizing for. If they do it badly, they hurt that market and they'll be out of a job anyways. Replaced by AI or not.
Nah, see, this is where their socialist college education is getting in the way of reality. You cannot pick your audience. You can try. You can attempt to appeal to a certain group of people, but you cannot, at the end of the day, choose who your product becomes popular with. But people educated in college are taught casually that you can simply command the economy and it shall be so. These lolcowlizers are attempting to command-economy the audience. They honestly and actually mean it, they think they get to decide who the audience is. But no amount of psychopathy will make their target demographic consume manga and anime, because the leftists they want to appeal to _know_ the reality, and they _know_ that the original isn't content they like, and no amount of lolcowlizing will make it palatable to their sensibilities. Hell, left leaning people mock lolcowlizing on the daily on reddit, by mocking four kids calling rice balls jelly donuts.
@@umiluv Yes but they will not perpetuate the problem by making more of them. The ideas might continue but the psychology supporting them will not if they don't reproduce!
Can’t wait for localizers to be replaced by AI. Localizers have talked down to the fans for far too long, it’s time for these bullies to get what’s coming to them.
Talk about projection. The way she responded totally told you about her own sex life, or lack thereof. I also love the Whole affirmation thing of constantly declaring how empowered they are. Like, if someone was truly empowered they’d be a lot less vocal about it, in my experience. Only the small dog barks excessively.
Jamie Marchi is particularly amusing because she tried to MeToo Vic Mignogna and he later went on record during the lawsuit he filed against her, her friends, and Funi, that he doesn't find her attractive at all.
Once you examine the hermetic roots of postmodern neomarxism, you get that this is normal for them. They literally believe that if they just keep affirming things, it makes it so. It's a double-edged sword; on one hand, you end up with a belief system that is effective at infiltrating because they will always double down and harangue and harass to an almost pathological degree through social chorus. On the other, their affirmations are their only version of "power" that they have and they are pretty much useless in every other regard.
@@RudockAviar I mean I'm bisexual and she's just objectively not attractive. Even if her face wasn't a bland lump her personality still hit the gutter running and didn't look back.
Hahahah believe me even something like "this" get to be smashed that's how broken and thirsty are people in US If she has the audacity to behave this way it's the clear sign she can get away with anything in this broken system "just because she has vagege"
I'm with ya on this one, Vee. Their job was _important._ That's why, when people noticed the obviously slipshod manner in which the work was being done, they _noticed_ it. That's why the original _mangaka really noticed it_ as did their publishers. That's why the publishers finally took action, and invoked the use of AI to replace these feckless Phoebes with something that would not inject memes, gen-z slang, mention of "da patriarchy" where none existed in the original text, etc. My first inclination if any of these so-called "localizers" seeks sympathy from me will be to show them where sympathy lies in the dictionary...
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus That's far more merciful than what I'd do. I'd just laugh at them as they go broke and tell them to eat dirt and pound sand. People don't change too much beyond a certain point but when faced with being out of the streets in San Francisco or the such, there might be a 1-2 of them *maximum* who *might, just might* actually grow a god damn 50th of a braincell.
The problem there is that the fans do not own these franchises. These insidious ideologues sieze the means of production however they can. The best response is for the fans to turn their backs on these demons and deny them revenue. The fans should create original works that capture the spirit of what they loved and found escapism in. Give to each other and receive more than we can imagine.
@@GhettoFabulousLorch The localizers don't own them either. There are lawsuits that have happened because localizers did their own thing and rights to franchizes have been lost. Fans should inform the actual creators when shit like this happens, ONLY PIRATE localized media if they absolutely have to watch their inferior product and ONLY BUY japanese releases of products to support the actual creators. The actual companies, funnimation/crunchyroll/etc will only act when their bottomline gets fucked. If they find people avoiding their service they will first try to go after pirating, and when they realize that doesn't work they will deal with the issue which is the localizers.
@@nuke2099 This is true, although would things change if more people who are enjoy anime/manga, bring up to the IP owners in Japan about what American localizers are doing?
@@Natsukashii-Records Crunchyroll has a monopoly. They're the only distributor in the US. If they want their creations in the US market, they have to go through them. Sure you'll get hardcore fans pirating, but it won't get the audience that going through Crunchyroll will get them. If shows like Demon Slayer and My Hero Academia had only been available through backdoor means, they would never have reached the level of fame they have which directly impacts their sales. Merch sells would be pitiful. The fans can not gatekeep what they do not control. Basically your way means it dies because it destroys the market. The only thing that can be done is these Japanese studios do it themselves. That's up to them, not the fans.
_"If you never did your job as it should be, you don't deserved anyone's money."_ ~from my current Supervisor The crazy thing about it they look down on fans and JP for admitting they are Vandalizing these media for years and never felt sorry about it. This is not about A.I. as a tool but the real problem was why do they need to ruin this media (not only manga/anime but also games) they never gave a reasonable answet for this but instead they just hide with their "I'm a women and don't question it."
@@RambleOn07, She's observed that some people are critical of her work but she isn't brave enough to consider their arguments. Instead she rationalizes that they just don't like people with vaginas and are making up false criticism because she has a vagina
Its like if at the end of Lord of the Rings, instead of Aragorn saying "you bow to noone" he instead says "everyone stans a short king". The localizer is effectively scoring out the writers work and putting their own over it, and they are not good writers. They are making the characters and setting they are localizing appear inconsistent and scatter brained when theyll suddenly espout communist/capitalist talking points in a fantasy setting with kings and peasants etc. this stuff is just flat out bad writing, someone understanding in subs compared to dubs may have an entirely different cast of character based on the changes that were made to what they talk about and say and how they say it etc. They are not just translating they are putting themselves in the writers seat. Theyve made themselves replaceable by AI, not even on cost, because it will actually do what its suppose to be doing, which is just translate.
The one time localiser would work is in stupid movies like Rise of Skywalker. “Some how Palpatine returns” To “Ayo, Palpatine got revived y’all” “They fly now” To “Lmao my nga be high af” Would at least make the movie watchable.
The "changing your body" comment makes sense because they're literal shape-shifters, but also dragons storage their capacity to breathe fire on the booba, and Lucoa is a huge, monster, goddess's dragonness so she can breathe fire like none, so no matter the shape, she'll always be stacked. This concept is shown how funny it can get when Faf-kun tried to write a cursing manual masked as a manga and Lucoa is made to contort herself to show the effects of the curse, if you, person reading, don't understand how this was done in the anime, you should watch it.
Thanks to the second season of Dragon Maid, we see that transformation magic isn't accurate all the time. Ilulu demonstrates that lack of magic control is why she lacks human hands at the start and why her chest is big. Then it can be applied to others since Ilulu was insisting using gender bending magic on Kaboyashi. Which I bet the length of it lasting is dependent on magic control. Then Lucoa shows off how advanced her magic control is with the curse scene you brought up. Tldr: Dragons can do a lot with magic if they're proficient.
Yeah because its about control and division. Culture is something that brings people together so destroying it is an effective tool to get large groups of society to distrust others. Caring about anime localization also makes us look crazy to normies which makes it easier to do the "le gamers are -ist and -phobic" framing to prop themselves up. Just look at gamergate and how history about it was revised in real time.
@@luminous3558 Which side was _actually_ "on the right side of history" Gamergate or Kotaku? Gamergate was the first shot fired in the Culture War (a failed Maoist-style cultural revolution).
When they did this to China, they were calling it Han Chauvinism. Brainwash as many people as possible to hate everything about the civilization,and you cause enough destabilization and chaos to seize power inch by inch as you spend another 15 years brainwashing the next generation a little more than the last. The evil are spreading their mind virus to the stupid and emotionally compromised in order to destroy the West.
Talk about it as much as you want. It spreads the message to people not in the know. More people should be aware of this rot inside localization industry. Because we seeing more and more activists entering the field and having little self control for inserting their own politics and agenda into foreign works
The way they talk is just so irritating and rage inducing. No other group of people that I find so irritating and rage inducing, regardless of what job they have or which industry they are in.
Localizers would be changing their tune if we took out their politics from what little media they create. Problem is, that would make the woke shows either tolerable or at least mediocre - as in neither good nor bad, just average.
"Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it." Ya'll remember 4Kids? The only thing they really dub nowadays is Yu-Gi-Oh! and that's only because Konami thought their almost Abridged level translations were funny and bought them out. Honestly I miss the days of 4Kids, all their localized theme songs were absolutely iconic. But they reaped what they sowed and all that.
That comparison exactly. The 4kidz One Piece dub is the optime of bad localization. So bad they changed parts of the story and skipped an important part that's needed later. It was so bad that it was not as popular in the west initially like Naruto or Bleach was. I was tricked also until I saw the sub version years later. The changes were downright insulting, like removing all the text from books and stuff because the old fart of a ceo thought kids couldn't read.
@@CRIMI0N Ah you sweet summer children. The 4Kids One Piece dub was very bad but lemme tell ya' there was worse in the past. Battle of the Planets literally added in Western animation of the team travelling through space and some random robot character they just made up in order to claim the show, which takes place entirely on Earth, took place on other planets. They also replaced one character's dialogue with random noises. Captain Harlock and the Queen of One Thousand Years look two unrelated Leiji Matsumoto shows with two different levels of technology, slammed them together, and then had to make up the entire script without translating a single word because they were only given two days to dub each episode. Voltron...has nothing to do with the original Go Lion. They are VERY different shows. I know I'm going back to the OLD old days, but man...4Kids was downright RESPECTFUL compared to what came before! I'm just glad that we, as a fandom, have higher standards now...not that we didn't complain back then, just there was less we could do about it.
what irks me how easily they segway any dislike of their work to "nazi"... like these days you're a nazi because you know that a japanese Mangaka IN 2013 wouldn't know a damn thing about a largely western event that existed POST 2014
If I was in this dude's questioning position I would have completely lost my shit! Not get violent but at least get loud and spit straight reality and facts .45-75 dollar Blu-Rays . 11+ dollar Crunchyroll sub a month . 60-70 something on a new game release . 10-25 per Manga volume YOUR DAMN STRAIGHT IM ENTITLED TO AN ACCURATE PRODUCT. MY TIME, MY MONEY/INVESTMENT and where I choose to spend it!
The problem is 'they' don't need your money. Just like Disney etc. Money printer go Brrr The only one brand I've seen actually cow-tow is Budlight. To use an old simpsons qoute: I think I'll vote third party. Go ahead. Throw your vote away!
Just imagine ordering a cook book but you recieve a feminist biograpfy instead and when you contact the one sending the packages they say something like "we send what you need not what you want" or "we know better what you should read" 🤣
They thought they held a speck of power, had fans of the series follow them as well, attended conventions they were invited to and regularly spoke from a podium to a mass of dorky, awkward people which all made them feel superior, the seeping contempt and arrogance when faced with even the slightest of opposition is just the tip of the iceberg. They feel entitled to the status and fandom, it's their perceived fiefdoms and it has to be ruled with a divine purpose that strengthens them and them alone. It really lays bare the ugly nature of these people.
Activists of any stripe cannot help themselves. Where a sensible person sets themselves practical limits, these people simply cannot keep from going full throttle with their activism for all to see. And yes, they are very scared about AI. That's why they're spewing such toxic and false quotes on social media. Someone else here said that "Only the small dog barks excessively." And these narcissistic nut-jobs are yapping away like chihuahuas with hemorrhoids.
They don’t translate properly because they are on a power-trip. Rewriting works that pass through their hands is how they exercise it, and smothering those who oppose them is an extension of that power, which allows them to hold onto it.
She gave a trudeu answer or no answer. Because is current year. The following is to always ask. "what do you mean with that, explain" Never go until they are forced to explain their nonsense. I would call her transphobic.
Why wouldn't you leave? The moment you hear an answer like that the only sane reaction is to in insane asylum and explain the situation "this patient is clearly delusional please take her to the infirmary"
Ya’ know, with classic localization blunders from the ‘90s the changes were at least understandable when thinking about it from the company’s point of view. “American kids won’t know what onigiri are, and if we just translate it they’re going to be confused why Brock is so excited over rice balls. What’s something that kids like that looks kinda similar? Jelly donuts!” “Parents won’t be happy if their seven-year-old daughters ask what lesbians are, so let’s make Sailors Neptune and Uranus cousins.” You can’t always simply translate the words, there’s cultural differences to consider. But this is just… adding a new message to the text that wasn’t there before, for no reason other than to spread your ideology. It’s like if I, as a Christian, made the line “I was reading in St. Paul’s epistles how women are supposed to dress modestly, and felt God telling me I needed to repent and make myself right with Him.”
5:35 "unnecessary hate" the absolute arrogance. Not only she is invalidating the consumer opinion, this implies "necessary hate", she sees hate as a useful tool, but only when used by her side.
The AI is going to destroy the lolcowlizers jobs like the Terminator. Also, please keep talking about those lolcowlizers because they need to be exposed.
My fear for A.I. Is that it’s actually I.A. (Intelligent algorithms). That it will push propaganda/agendas even faster and more frequently. Corporations that use it can gaslight even further by telling consumers that A.I. Is just smarter than you and won’t take complaints because there’s not one person to take accountability. Just like any woke individual of today.
Tbh, my problem aren't localizers by themselves. But political localizers, I'll explain myself. My native language is Spanish and i always had to watch shows, movies and anime in spanish dub or subtitles, and in the shows there is usually some sort of localization, but it is always a mexican modism or trying to adjust a joke that involves wordplay. There are videos called "doblajes perrones" that shows a bit of this. Also another great example of this spanish localization is found on the Simpsons. Ask any latinoamerican and they still enjoy the old simpsons and make jokes and memes about it because the dub job was superb.
Dont forget that even in the old Mexican dub also there were added stuff but those additions made the dub better in the context of the show. For example, the DBZ dub line on the cell saga on an inner monologue of Vegeta: "No solo se robo mis celulas tambien mis dialogos!" -> "He didnt just stole my cells but also my lines!". Its a 4th wall joke but considering Vegetas massive ego it was not out of character.
I thought the joke was that dragons, being reptiles, don't have boobs and just have them big in human form because of some misunderstanding of human culture.
I think the Japanese would be highly motivated to get AI translating into English. And the Japanese need to do it, entirely remove the middle-men. Think of the money you could make Japan - without having to pay American companies a cut. Do it. DO IT.
This is like ordering a burger and getting a fish sandwich instead, and when you ask for your order to be fixed, you get belittled and yelled by the staff in the counter.
I visited one of the English VA Jamie Mariachi and I couldn't believe the replies she made that she's in the right. The nerve she had was unprofessional.
Note: the first dialogue change was NOT many years ago; it's a scene from the second season of 'Dragon Maid', which was localized in the West in late 2021.
It started long before then. I forget at this point there was a kids anime about ghost where they dub in kids in Japan ragging on Republicans and saying they are just as evil as the evil spirit they looking for.
@@aj.j5833that’s ghost stories likely and it took shots at near everyone. They had a running joke about principles always looking like lesbians Pretty funny, Vic was personally ashamed accepting the job since he had no idea what they were gonna do with it so he’s credited under a pseudo name which I thought was hilarious
"I bet he's not going to be afraid and terrorised by ChatGPT" I'm gonna press X to doubt on that one, ChatGPT is far woker than any human i've ever met in real life.
So what exactly does "I have a v*****, deal with it." have to do with the argument or question asked? We're talking about genuine criticism of translation "errors" ("" for obvious reasons as it's not really an error) and has nothing what so ever to do with you being a man or woman nor your personality. I don't care how funny you believe you are. I understand this is a fan event and not an interview but it makes you wonder whether they actually understand why people provide criticism. It is not to insult you but SELF IMPROVEMENT! I feel like these people get constant pats on the back and it makes them so useless in a creative field. If I ever get around to finishing my own creative work I want people to be critical about all parts of it so that I can improve on the next one. Obviously ignore any criticism being offensive or that offers nothing of substance but in most cases everyone providing criticism is only trying to help you to make something or yourself better.
They were taught critical theory which is all about undermining civilization not to improve things when they criticise someone or something they approach it with this goal in mind they probably assume that everyone else is just as bad as they are
In my experience of fansubs there are very few real subbers left. Most seem to just rip them off of corporations and claim them as their own as if they subbed them themselves. Gone are the days of real fansubbers with their liner notes to explain things that are japanese in the show at the end or beginning of the show.
You didn't show the part of the clip where she calls people who disagree with her Not Z's and how she doesn't want people who disagree with her political views as fans.
Boycott, I recall better day's when funimation was just getting started it had flaws, but yes that arrogance is insolent. A.I.'s have been ready, real artist will alway's survive if their art is of service to humanity, an A.I. can only imitate humanities greatest achievements, but with no soul, at best they are a collective of glorified calculator's that can't handle profound variables.
AI translation could lead to electronic personal translators becoming more ubiquitous, which would be a boon for all of mankind. The technology is already mostly there. These localizers are literally in the way of true progress and their ignorance of what is truly at stake as well as their inability to stop it is satisfying.
Individualism taken to the extreme. It's all about them and their believes, the integrity of original work be damned. They criticize colonialism while colonizing other cultures at every turn. They advocate for diversity while trying to shape other cultures to fit their narrow standards. They exhibit human failings so egregious it reshapes the contemporary transhumanism debate. People used to hate MTLs with fervor. Now they envision a world where machines preserve human cultures better than humans do. It won't stop at localization, every avenue of cultural exchange will be exploited.
Translation AI will make the world a better place, just look at how important the UT was in Star Trek. It and the Transporter literally made the show possible.
I don't want "normal" but i don't want this hell either 😂 their message isnt ready for mainstream, it needed more time in the counter-culture pressure-cooker before being served to the masses. It's raw, it stinks, and it's making me sick.
I remember between 2010 & 2016 we were all rapist and abuse & rape enablers for enjoying traditional comic & video game (especially the female) characters. And also made it unsafe for women in the west to go outside, but the most shocking thing was that the casuals at that point in time agreed with them. It was also the first time social media was weaponised.
bad people took over the industry then started insulting all the people that were into that thing, where have we heard this story play out before ? go figure !
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Would you say localizers are being the real racists by mistranslating with their ideologies? Thought it ws bad enough when WB Kids censored the anime back then
They lost, stop raping a dead animal you zoophilia.
Don't forget the Gamer Gate line in Ptison School. Dubbed by the SAME PEOPLE AROUND THE SAME TIME!
She didn't even answer the question.
Her entire 'response' consisted of insulting the guy.
It was simply an elaborate way of saying "I'm sorry that you hate women and that you're an incel"
What did the fan ever do to the localizer? The fan dared to exist without needing wokeness, feminism, or female empowerment.
The messed up part is this whole slew of stuff just makes me dislike and hate the ladies in the anime commuinty.... and I imagine I'm not alone. Damn near everything else caters to ladies , how entitled and insecure do you have to be to do this to the hobby?
man i'd just be happy if they would stop putting memes into translations.
@Darth_Loverboy_Turned_Loose Not related, but I love your 'Lost Boys' choice for icon. xD
@@keonkla I been against Funni ever since they got rid of Vic Mignognia because he was a better person than them and they got jealous.
@@keonkla I'll admit that I'm of a similar mindset nowadays because of localizers and the such. I'm much more suspicious (at the minimum) of most anyone who says they like a series and follow it. Most of my friends who I know already are of the few rare exceptions in my mind but most anyone else I see who says they're a fan of Y thing (I'll say Halo since that's a series I grew up with), I have to stop myself a little bit from effectively interrogating them on basic knowledge of the series (i.e. how do you fight the final boss in Halo 2).
"Why are you ruining anime?"
"Because I'm a woman"
Wow good job. So stunning and brave.
According to her, your translation is accurate because you changed her words against her wishes
"But what IS a woman?"
so being a woman is destructive? hmmm...
That's the literal answer, though. They did it to video games, comics, movies and TV shows... Remember: gatekeeping is a good thing, and we should have done a lot more of it.
The lovalizers biggest problem is they think that the product is THEIRS and not the authors
It's reminiscent of the attitude of Patreon who, if you remember the interviews their guy was doing around the time of people being removed due to their politics, act like the money that goes through their site is theirs.
Their arrogance is astounding.
"You're not my customer" is what I've seen them say, too.
But the fans ARE the customers. They are the market that the localizer is localizing for.
If they do it badly, they hurt that market and they'll be out of a job anyways. Replaced by AI or not.
They're right. We're not their customers. We're their boss's boss's boss's boss's boss.
Nah, see, this is where their socialist college education is getting in the way of reality. You cannot pick your audience. You can try. You can attempt to appeal to a certain group of people, but you cannot, at the end of the day, choose who your product becomes popular with. But people educated in college are taught casually that you can simply command the economy and it shall be so. These lolcowlizers are attempting to command-economy the audience. They honestly and actually mean it, they think they get to decide who the audience is. But no amount of psychopathy will make their target demographic consume manga and anime, because the leftists they want to appeal to _know_ the reality, and they _know_ that the original isn't content they like, and no amount of lolcowlizing will make it palatable to their sensibilities.
Hell, left leaning people mock lolcowlizing on the daily on reddit, by mocking four kids calling rice balls jelly donuts.
The thought of them reaching their 70s with no savings, no positive social connections and living in decaying metropolises brings me joy.
By the time they reach their 70s blue cities in USA will be in complete anarchy after the food trucks stop going there.
I hope not. Means my kids will be paying taxes to prop them up.
@@umiluv tell you kids to embrace tax evasion. 😂😂
@@umiluv Yes but they will not perpetuate the problem by making more of them. The ideas might continue but the psychology supporting them will not if they don't reproduce!
I like better my version where they are in insane asylums and people outside are taking them as a lesson on hubris.
Even if they weren’t this insufferable, them not having a job isn’t my problem or concern of it being taken away.
EXACTLY
This whole situation is making me fall in love with AI more and more every day lmaoo.
I mean, it's a problem insofar as they might get their next job at a burger joint and then they'll be spitting in burgers.
@@rabureta the burger joint that accepts and hires those types of people, probably wasn’t worth eating at to begin with.
I don't want evil people to have jobs that allow them to destroy our culture. Let them mop floors.
I still dont get how being a women excuses you for being bad at your job
Being part of an "oppressed minority" means you are always right because "shut up oppressor"
Feminism when it's convenient for them. Get in a job because they're women, they're women so you have to appreciate their work.
The way she says it sounds like she thinks being a woman is the root cause of her being bad at her job
Gynocentric society at it's early stages, give it next 20 years it's going to become a norm.
Because self-accountability is a completely non-existent concept to a LOT of women, especially western women.
Wokealizers: "I have a vajayjay"
AI: " *溶接を学ぶ* "
Lmao 😂
インセルたちは爆乳が大好きだよ
Fans committed the egregious sin of not agreeing with them.
Why would we? Rhey are insane!
Copy X
Thus condemed for an eternity of nagging thotry.
AI mastering the japanese language and becoming able to completely translate them on their own is merely a question of time.
And there would still be a human reviewing it and adjusting it accordingly, don't be so easily fooled.
Funny thing is we CAN do this now.
@@TheMrToxin This and they can also shackle the AI. It will translate how the people that controls the AI wants it to translate.
@@TheMrToxin Sure but soon enough you'll be be able to run it on your own pc. Ain't nobody can stop you then.
we will invent a time machine and put people on pluto before we do that .its the greatest weakness of ai
Can’t wait for localizers to be replaced by AI. Localizers have talked down to the fans for far too long, it’s time for these bullies to get what’s coming to them.
They don't understand that we only need voice actors. Not translators. Maybe dubs will be more accurate in the future.
Love how it's all women. We let women in our hobbies and now they get to console us like children
Talk about projection. The way she responded totally told you about her own sex life, or lack thereof.
I also love the Whole affirmation thing of constantly declaring how empowered they are. Like, if someone was truly empowered they’d be a lot less vocal about it, in my experience. Only the small dog barks excessively.
Jamie Marchi is particularly amusing because she tried to MeToo Vic Mignogna and he later went on record during the lawsuit he filed against her, her friends, and Funi, that he doesn't find her attractive at all.
Once you examine the hermetic roots of postmodern neomarxism, you get that this is normal for them. They literally believe that if they just keep affirming things, it makes it so.
It's a double-edged sword; on one hand, you end up with a belief system that is effective at infiltrating because they will always double down and harangue and harass to an almost pathological degree through social chorus. On the other, their affirmations are their only version of "power" that they have and they are pretty much useless in every other regard.
@@RudockAviar I mean I'm bisexual and she's just objectively not attractive. Even if her face wasn't a bland lump her personality still hit the gutter running and didn't look back.
@@RudockAviar IIRC Vic unfortunately lost that lawsuit but he at least exposed people like Marchi and Funimation as part of the Cancel Pigs.
Hahahah believe me even something like "this" get to be smashed that's how broken and thirsty are people in US
If she has the audacity to behave this way it's the clear sign she can get away with anything in this broken system "just because she has vagege"
"I'm a strong, funny, independant woman."
Any man who must say "I am king" is no true king at all.
Or at the very least not a good king
She's not a man
These same localizers were all key players in the KickVic movement. You should do a video on that and them.
Who are the mindless clapping trained seals in the audience?
The sheep from Animal Farm. "Four legs good. Two legs bad."
lmao, those are your fellow country men and women who will also be the ones clapping when our heads get lopped off.
Their ever dwindling paying customers
Convention attending "fans"
Who else would sit in at a panel interview for these cows?
I'm with ya on this one, Vee. Their job was _important._ That's why, when people noticed the obviously slipshod manner in which the work was being done, they _noticed_ it. That's why the original _mangaka really noticed it_ as did their publishers. That's why the publishers finally took action, and invoked the use of AI to replace these feckless Phoebes with something that would not inject memes, gen-z slang, mention of "da patriarchy" where none existed in the original text, etc. My first inclination if any of these so-called "localizers" seeks sympathy from me will be to show them where sympathy lies in the dictionary...
My closest thing to sympathy I will offer them is a coding guide that teaches the reader improperly on a system like temple OS
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus That's far more merciful than what I'd do. I'd just laugh at them as they go broke and tell them to eat dirt and pound sand. People don't change too much beyond a certain point but when faced with being out of the streets in San Francisco or the such, there might be a 1-2 of them *maximum* who *might, just might* actually grow a god damn 50th of a braincell.
Nah i would tell them that McD. its hireing .
"The customer is always right". People need to re-learn that stuff again so hard! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
The primary lesson to have been learned through the years is to stop letting people into your fandom that don't care about the material.
The problem there is that the fans do not own these franchises. These insidious ideologues sieze the means of production however they can.
The best response is for the fans to turn their backs on these demons and deny them revenue. The fans should create original works that capture the spirit of what they loved and found escapism in. Give to each other and receive more than we can imagine.
@@GhettoFabulousLorch The localizers don't own them either. There are lawsuits that have happened because localizers did their own thing and rights to franchizes have been lost. Fans should inform the actual creators when shit like this happens, ONLY PIRATE localized media if they absolutely have to watch their inferior product and ONLY BUY japanese releases of products to support the actual creators. The actual companies, funnimation/crunchyroll/etc will only act when their bottomline gets fucked. If they find people avoiding their service they will first try to go after pirating, and when they realize that doesn't work they will deal with the issue which is the localizers.
The problem is some fans wanting everyone and anyone to be in it and who call others gatekeepers and shaming them.
@@nuke2099 This is true, although would things change if more people who are enjoy anime/manga, bring up to the IP owners in Japan about what American localizers are doing?
@@Natsukashii-Records Crunchyroll has a monopoly. They're the only distributor in the US. If they want their creations in the US market, they have to go through them. Sure you'll get hardcore fans pirating, but it won't get the audience that going through Crunchyroll will get them. If shows like Demon Slayer and My Hero Academia had only been available through backdoor means, they would never have reached the level of fame they have which directly impacts their sales. Merch sells would be pitiful. The fans can not gatekeep what they do not control. Basically your way means it dies because it destroys the market. The only thing that can be done is these Japanese studios do it themselves. That's up to them, not the fans.
_"If you never did your job as it should be, you don't deserved anyone's money."_
~from my current Supervisor
The crazy thing about it they look down on fans and JP for admitting they are Vandalizing these media for years and never felt sorry about it.
This is not about A.I. as a tool but the real problem was why do they need to ruin this media (not only manga/anime but also games) they never gave a reasonable answet for this but instead they just hide with their "I'm a women and don't question it."
“The peasants are upset.”
“I HAVE A VAGIIIIIINA!!!!!!”
“2016 was 7 years ago.”
🎩
🐍 no step on snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Was that an attempt to make a claim for authority or something? I can't understand feminist insanity.
@@RambleOn07 Feminist insanity is redundant.
@@kunka592 true
@@RambleOn07, She's observed that some people are critical of her work but she isn't brave enough to consider their arguments. Instead she rationalizes that they just don't like people with vaginas and are making up false criticism because she has a vagina
How can this abomination share the species with me?
Its like if at the end of Lord of the Rings, instead of Aragorn saying "you bow to noone" he instead says "everyone stans a short king". The localizer is effectively scoring out the writers work and putting their own over it, and they are not good writers.
They are making the characters and setting they are localizing appear inconsistent and scatter brained when theyll suddenly espout communist/capitalist talking points in a fantasy setting with kings and peasants etc. this stuff is just flat out bad writing, someone understanding in subs compared to dubs may have an entirely different cast of character based on the changes that were made to what they talk about and say and how they say it etc. They are not just translating they are putting themselves in the writers seat. Theyve made themselves replaceable by AI, not even on cost, because it will actually do what its suppose to be doing, which is just translate.
The one time localiser would work is in stupid movies like Rise of Skywalker.
“Some how Palpatine returns”
To
“Ayo, Palpatine got revived y’all”
“They fly now”
To
“Lmao my nga be high af”
Would at least make the movie watchable.
@@chuchu5946 they did that with the Ghost Story's dub, shit was wild
The "changing your body" comment makes sense because they're literal shape-shifters, but also dragons storage their capacity to breathe fire on the booba, and Lucoa is a huge, monster, goddess's dragonness so she can breathe fire like none, so no matter the shape, she'll always be stacked.
This concept is shown how funny it can get when Faf-kun tried to write a cursing manual masked as a manga and Lucoa is made to contort herself to show the effects of the curse, if you, person reading, don't understand how this was done in the anime, you should watch it.
Thanks to the second season of Dragon Maid, we see that transformation magic isn't accurate all the time. Ilulu demonstrates that lack of magic control is why she lacks human hands at the start and why her chest is big.
Then it can be applied to others since Ilulu was insisting using gender bending magic on Kaboyashi. Which I bet the length of it lasting is dependent on magic control.
Then Lucoa shows off how advanced her magic control is with the curse scene you brought up.
Tldr: Dragons can do a lot with magic if they're proficient.
@@donlee7878 Yea, I love that anime. It's just so much uncut dumb fun
» why?
» magic dragon women why
Problem is not only do localizers not speak Japanese, they also don't watch the media they butcher.
They demand respect, yet do not show respect to others in turn.
The same people who scream about "wh•it•e su•pr•em•ac•y" and about "colonialism" and "cultural appropriation" sure do love doing all those things🙃
The far left are really good a projection
Yeah because its about control and division.
Culture is something that brings people together so destroying it is an effective tool to get large groups of society to distrust others.
Caring about anime localization also makes us look crazy to normies which makes it easier to do the "le gamers are -ist and -phobic" framing to prop themselves up.
Just look at gamergate and how history about it was revised in real time.
@@luminous3558 Which side was _actually_ "on the right side of history" Gamergate or Kotaku?
Gamergate was the first shot fired in the Culture War (a failed Maoist-style cultural revolution).
When they did this to China, they were calling it Han Chauvinism.
Brainwash as many people as possible to hate everything about the civilization,and you cause enough destabilization and chaos to seize power inch by inch as you spend another 15 years brainwashing the next generation a little more than the last.
The evil are spreading their mind virus to the stupid and emotionally compromised in order to destroy the West.
The more things change, the more they stay the same
Talk about it as much as you want. It spreads the message to people not in the know. More people should be aware of this rot inside localization industry. Because we seeing more and more activists entering the field and having little self control for inserting their own politics and agenda into foreign works
Jamie Marchi being her usual vile self is the biggest argument in favor of piracy at this time.
Wanting standards and accurate translation is what the fan did. Also being heterosexual. That's a crime I they're eyes.
Why ..
and being male
Don't forget that the customers are also men. The most horrible crime of all.
@@SchemingGoldberg this makes no sense
It looked more like she had him to ask her that question
To gloat?
"I have a vagina" is the most Feminist answer I've ever heard.
i thought femenism was supposed to make woman look smart and capable not evil and stupid
Not earned, not worked for, not meritorious.
she is transphobic
The most original answer ever.
Me to that 304:
"And that gives you power over me?"
~Bane
Esg hires likely write their own dialogue.
The way they talk is just so irritating and rage inducing. No other group of people that I find so irritating and rage inducing, regardless of what job they have or which industry they are in.
What are 5hey called?
Have you ever heard of politicians?
@@Natsukashii-Records I've had known and had personal interactions with politicians and I'd much rather be around them then these people.
@@Natsukashii-Records Politicians at least *pretend* to be likeable, most of the time.
@@SchemingGoldberg In which country? Because I haven't seen one that isn't an absolute slimeball in EU or US with which I am familiar with.
Localizers would be changing their tune if we took out their politics from what little media they create. Problem is, that would make the woke shows either tolerable or at least mediocre - as in neither good nor bad, just average.
They don't create for the most part, just mutate and destroy things that were good. 'woke comedian' is an oxymoron of the highest order.
Tolkien : "Evil can't create anything, it can just corrupt and destroy."
How about 'localising' that interview with subtitles and completely change what she's saying...
See how she likes if people change her words!
@@CommDante I couldn't make her interview make her look worse, even if I tried
"Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."
Ya'll remember 4Kids? The only thing they really dub nowadays is Yu-Gi-Oh! and that's only because Konami thought their almost Abridged level translations were funny and bought them out.
Honestly I miss the days of 4Kids, all their localized theme songs were absolutely iconic. But they reaped what they sowed and all that.
That comparison exactly. The 4kidz One Piece dub is the optime of bad localization. So bad they changed parts of the story and skipped an important part that's needed later. It was so bad that it was not as popular in the west initially like Naruto or Bleach was. I was tricked also until I saw the sub version years later. The changes were downright insulting, like removing all the text from books and stuff because the old fart of a ceo thought kids couldn't read.
@@CRIMI0N Ah you sweet summer children. The 4Kids One Piece dub was very bad but lemme tell ya' there was worse in the past. Battle of the Planets literally added in Western animation of the team travelling through space and some random robot character they just made up in order to claim the show, which takes place entirely on Earth, took place on other planets. They also replaced one character's dialogue with random noises.
Captain Harlock and the Queen of One Thousand Years look two unrelated Leiji Matsumoto shows with two different levels of technology, slammed them together, and then had to make up the entire script without translating a single word because they were only given two days to dub each episode.
Voltron...has nothing to do with the original Go Lion. They are VERY different shows.
I know I'm going back to the OLD old days, but man...4Kids was downright RESPECTFUL compared to what came before! I'm just glad that we, as a fandom, have higher standards now...not that we didn't complain back then, just there was less we could do about it.
My favorite part was the invisible guns
@@CRIMI0Nyup because of the localizer why my favorite anime Megaman NT warrior didn't get so much attention that it deserved 😢
Who remembers Brock's jelly filled donuts... yeah...
I feel like Japan has a legal obligation to sue and shut down these localisers... On account that they are vandalising their product
what irks me how easily they segway any dislike of their work to "nazi"... like these days you're a nazi because you know that a japanese Mangaka IN 2013 wouldn't know a damn thing about a largely western event that existed POST 2014
Please keep the localization videos coming. Keep spreading the word
What did the fan ever do to the localizer? Tried to escape the policits ikf their friends and horrible politics of the west
If I was in this dude's questioning position I would have completely lost my shit! Not get violent but at least get loud and spit straight reality and facts
.45-75 dollar Blu-Rays
. 11+ dollar Crunchyroll sub a month
. 60-70 something on a new game release
. 10-25 per Manga volume
YOUR DAMN STRAIGHT IM ENTITLED TO AN ACCURATE PRODUCT. MY TIME, MY MONEY/INVESTMENT and where I choose to spend it!
The problem is 'they' don't need your money. Just like Disney etc. Money printer go Brrr
The only one brand I've seen actually cow-tow is Budlight.
To use an old simpsons qoute: I think I'll vote third party. Go ahead. Throw your vote away!
Just imagine ordering a cook book but you recieve a feminist biograpfy instead and when you contact the one sending the packages they say something like "we send what you need not what you want" or "we know better what you should read" 🤣
They thought they held a speck of power, had fans of the series follow them as well, attended conventions they were invited to and regularly spoke from a podium to a mass of dorky, awkward people which all made them feel superior, the seeping contempt and arrogance when faced with even the slightest of opposition is just the tip of the iceberg. They feel entitled to the status and fandom, it's their perceived fiefdoms and it has to be ruled with a divine purpose that strengthens them and them alone. It really lays bare the ugly nature of these people.
"Localizer" should have kep their heads down and basically stayed slightly different translators. I hope they are scared of ai translations coming.
Activists of any stripe cannot help themselves. Where a sensible person sets themselves practical limits, these people simply cannot keep from going full throttle with their activism for all to see. And yes, they are very scared about AI. That's why they're spewing such toxic and false quotes on social media. Someone else here said that "Only the small dog barks excessively." And these narcissistic nut-jobs are yapping away like chihuahuas with hemorrhoids.
They don’t translate properly because they are on a power-trip. Rewriting works that pass through their hands is how they exercise it, and smothering those who oppose them is an extension of that power, which allows them to hold onto it.
She gave a trudeu answer or no answer. Because is current year. The following is to always ask. "what do you mean with that, explain" Never go until they are forced to explain their nonsense. I would call her transphobic.
Why wouldn't you leave?
The moment you hear an answer like that the only sane reaction is to in insane asylum and explain the situation "this patient is clearly delusional please take her to the infirmary"
@@АндрейНеугодников-м6е Then why you ask?. You did not receive and answer.
Ya’ know, with classic localization blunders from the ‘90s the changes were at least understandable when thinking about it from the company’s point of view. “American kids won’t know what onigiri are, and if we just translate it they’re going to be confused why Brock is so excited over rice balls. What’s something that kids like that looks kinda similar? Jelly donuts!” “Parents won’t be happy if their seven-year-old daughters ask what lesbians are, so let’s make Sailors Neptune and Uranus cousins.” You can’t always simply translate the words, there’s cultural differences to consider.
But this is just… adding a new message to the text that wasn’t there before, for no reason other than to spread your ideology. It’s like if I, as a Christian, made the line “I was reading in St. Paul’s epistles how women are supposed to dress modestly, and felt God telling me I needed to repent and make myself right with Him.”
Master ziemma said it best:"It sounds to me like you think everyone else should behave by your personal moral code. " Fairy Tail episode 166.
"I'm aware that I said I will stop talking about localizers..."
My day is complete now. ❤
We need to get Elon Musk and Pewdiepie to speak out against these Wokecalizers
And Mr. Beast.
5:35 "unnecessary hate" the absolute arrogance. Not only she is invalidating the consumer opinion, this implies "necessary hate", she sees hate as a useful tool, but only when used by her side.
They're biting the hand that feeds them. At some point the hand should learn to stop doing so to teach them a lesson.
The AI is going to destroy the lolcowlizers jobs like the Terminator. Also, please keep talking about those lolcowlizers because they need to be exposed.
My fear for A.I. Is that it’s actually I.A. (Intelligent algorithms). That it will push propaganda/agendas even faster and more frequently. Corporations that use it can gaslight even further by telling consumers that A.I. Is just smarter than you and won’t take complaints because there’s not one person to take accountability. Just like any woke individual of today.
When Japan showed they don't do woke BS ... suddenly a wild localizer came ... and translated the game to be woke ...
At this point, the Japanese need to sue these localizers for intentionally destroying their art.
Tbh, my problem aren't localizers by themselves. But political localizers, I'll explain myself. My native language is Spanish and i always had to watch shows, movies and anime in spanish dub or subtitles, and in the shows there is usually some sort of localization, but it is always a mexican modism or trying to adjust a joke that involves wordplay. There are videos called "doblajes perrones" that shows a bit of this. Also another great example of this spanish localization is found on the Simpsons. Ask any latinoamerican and they still enjoy the old simpsons and make jokes and memes about it because the dub job was superb.
Dont forget that even in the old Mexican dub also there were added stuff but those additions made the dub better in the context of the show. For example, the DBZ dub line on the cell saga on an inner monologue of Vegeta: "No solo se robo mis celulas tambien mis dialogos!" -> "He didnt just stole my cells but also my lines!". Its a 4th wall joke but considering Vegetas massive ego it was not out of character.
@phyrexian_dude4645 Oh yeah, i forgot about that one! Hell, i remember bursting into laughter the first time i heard that.
I thought the joke was that dragons, being reptiles, don't have boobs and just have them big in human form because of some misunderstanding of human culture.
Another case of the pirate having a superior product to the consoomer.
I think the Japanese would be highly motivated to get AI translating into English. And the Japanese need to do it, entirely remove the middle-men. Think of the money you could make Japan - without having to pay American companies a cut. Do it. DO IT.
This is like ordering a burger and getting a fish sandwich instead, and when you ask for your order to be fixed, you get belittled and yelled by the staff in the counter.
I visited one of the English VA Jamie Mariachi and I couldn't believe the replies she made that she's in the right. The nerve she had was unprofessional.
What the fans did? We allowed them into our hobbies. Everywhere.
It's not just the Dubs that Localizers were changing dialogue. They were doing the Subs translation dirty too!
This is the reason most people would rather have the anime subbed.
Note: the first dialogue change was NOT many years ago; it's a scene from the second season of 'Dragon Maid', which was localized in the West in late 2021.
It started long before then. I forget at this point there was a kids anime about ghost where they dub in kids in Japan ragging on Republicans and saying they are just as evil as the evil spirit they looking for.
@@aj.j5833that’s ghost stories likely and it took shots at near everyone. They had a running joke about principles always looking like lesbians
Pretty funny, Vic was personally ashamed accepting the job since he had no idea what they were gonna do with it so he’s credited under a pseudo name which I thought was hilarious
FIRST SEASON, its old af
@@shnorkeythefourth4572 didn’t know Vic is so based
@@elgatochurro Season 1 Episode 11 IIRC
Be their ideological enemies.
root cause is always w*men
Wasnt jamie marchi one of the people who flasly accused another VA and got him blacklisted?
yes
i saw this happening 20 years ago, the long march through the institutions
"I bet he's not going to be afraid and terrorised by ChatGPT" I'm gonna press X to doubt on that one, ChatGPT is far woker than any human i've ever met in real life.
Notice how she interjects in his question and replaces his words with what she believes in her mind.
So what exactly does "I have a v*****, deal with it." have to do with the argument or question asked? We're talking about genuine criticism of translation "errors" ("" for obvious reasons as it's not really an error) and has nothing what so ever to do with you being a man or woman nor your personality. I don't care how funny you believe you are.
I understand this is a fan event and not an interview but it makes you wonder whether they actually understand why people provide criticism. It is not to insult you but SELF IMPROVEMENT! I feel like these people get constant pats on the back and it makes them so useless in a creative field.
If I ever get around to finishing my own creative work I want people to be critical about all parts of it so that I can improve on the next one. Obviously ignore any criticism being offensive or that offers nothing of substance but in most cases everyone providing criticism is only trying to help you to make something or yourself better.
They were taught critical theory which is all about undermining civilization not to improve things when they criticise someone or something they approach it with this goal in mind they probably assume that everyone else is just as bad as they are
In my experience of fansubs there are very few real subbers left. Most seem to just rip them off of corporations and claim them as their own as if they subbed them themselves. Gone are the days of real fansubbers with their liner notes to explain things that are japanese in the show at the end or beginning of the show.
Unemployed very SOON!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks to her Va J J!
He simped hard and he merely relayed the question. He was on their side the entire time.
The point of the joke they are dragons and can take any human form. Localizers just removed the point of the conversation and replaced it with bs.
When she said "I have a vagina" I'm honestly surprised nobody yelled either: "how can we be sure?", or, "can we see it?" ;PP
You didn't show the part of the clip where she calls people who disagree with her Not Z's and how she doesn't want people who disagree with her political views as fans.
Boycott, I recall better day's when funimation was just getting started it had flaws, but yes that arrogance is insolent. A.I.'s have been ready, real artist will alway's survive if their art is of service to humanity, an A.I. can only imitate humanities greatest achievements, but with no soul, at best they are a collective of glorified calculator's that can't handle profound variables.
AI translation could lead to electronic personal translators becoming more ubiquitous, which would be a boon for all of mankind. The technology is already mostly there.
These localizers are literally in the way of true progress and their ignorance of what is truly at stake as well as their inability to stop it is satisfying.
Funimation sux now. Woke garbage everywhere. Disgusting.
I hope the AI will take away jobs not only of woke localizers but also woke voice actors.
Get Shrek't and stay out of MY SWAMP!
Please send or tag that segment to all the authors in Japan.
Bloody hell. The audacity of these rouge arrogant activist.
I would say that localizers are like cancer.
But I wouldn't want to insult cancer.
Individualism taken to the extreme. It's all about them and their believes, the integrity of original work be damned. They criticize colonialism while colonizing other cultures at every turn. They advocate for diversity while trying to shape other cultures to fit their narrow standards. They exhibit human failings so egregious it reshapes the contemporary transhumanism debate. People used to hate MTLs with fervor. Now they envision a world where machines preserve human cultures better than humans do. It won't stop at localization, every avenue of cultural exchange will be exploited.
Translation AI will make the world a better place, just look at how important the UT was in Star Trek. It and the Transporter literally made the show possible.
I for one welcome our big tiddy Japanese localization AI.
@Vee, we're also fully aware that when you said you'll stop covering localizers, you won't. :)
I hope the AI takes over both western artists and localizers. Both have sooo much hostility.
That panel exchange is basically the collapse of America in one video
They hate normalcy.
I dont worry about this, AI will remove this "job" soon enough. Soon, they will be studying the architecture of modern bridge design from below.
I don't want "normal" but i don't want this hell either 😂 their message isnt ready for mainstream, it needed more time in the counter-culture pressure-cooker before being served to the masses. It's raw, it stinks, and it's making me sick.
I remember between 2010 & 2016 we were all rapist and abuse & rape enablers for enjoying traditional comic & video game (especially the female) characters. And also made it unsafe for women in the west to go outside, but the most shocking thing was that the casuals at that point in time agreed with them. It was also the first time social media was weaponised.
This girls clearly had no father Figur in there life. 😮💨
I utterly hate that it took Asmongold to make everyone FINALLY pay attention to this shit that has been going on for years...
Man, you made me think about the Aerodynamics of Quetzacoatl of Dragon Maid Research Paper again...
no one ever mentions another classic. Prison School talking about about gamergate.
Entitlement to the extreme and no sense of humbling. That about says it for those clown shoes right.
bad people took over the industry then started insulting all the people that were into that thing, where have we heard this story play out before ? go figure !