man they really messed up with the restriction on Nadu, twice per turn per creature is not a restriction when formats have zero cost creatures and zero cost equip abilities not to mention blink effects and bounce effects that just bypass the restriction altogether. what was the wotc design team actually thinking
If it were reasonable then it would be unplayable in modern. As it is, it'll take time to tell if it's too good. It's obviously OP in commander, but that's fine because this is a modern set.
45:20 Very fitting to get your land destroyed right as you're reading comment from a viewer about having sent in a Ponza list. And all because of the eternal betrayer, f6... Seth, I love your MTGO content (and I certainly don't begrudge playing slow due to interacting with chat -- that's kind of the entire point of streaming, after all), but it'd be very good for you to utilize the *good* clock-saving features that MTGO has. You can easily bind a hotkey to "auto-yield to this in future" (and one to "auto-yes to this in future", and both of these are also pretty easy to remove if necessary). Doing so saves a massive amount of clock and would be especially helpful in decks like these with trigger-and-click-intensive combos. Getting clock-savings from auto-yields reduces reliance on a clunker like f6, which is not meant for general usage (f6 is designed for empty-handed boardstates; toggling "pass if no play available" or hotkeying-and-using "pass until you can respond" are much more appropriate "go"s anyway).
I can tell you for a fact: Necrodominance is busted. I run it as a 4 of in my mono black scam modern deck. It.combos with Sheoldred. I have spent 18 life, drawn 18 cards and gained 36 life of Sheoldred triggers. Then play 4 Soul Spikes to win the game. It is the nuts. Win on my turn. Win on my opponents turn. It dont matter. Game over.
If this magnitude of power creep continues wizards is going to turn magic onto Yugioh in 2 years. But then when you don’t plan on being the CEO in two years you might as well suck the game dry.
on safekeeper: can double target the creatures with it if u hold priority with the nadu trigger on the stack before the 1st activation resolves, hit ctrl mode for it in arenas consider displacer kitten, lotus cobra/tireless provisoner/landfall nissa for stormtastic value (partivcularly with safekeeper), reality chip, is lightning greaves legal in the format? Lightning greaves gonna go nuts in commander versions
I'm pretty sure MTGO will only stacks objects which are exactly the same. So, if I understand correctly, as long as you know which stack is the "spent" tokens, then you're good.
To those who are still not following: Echoes copies both the cast and ETB trigger of each Fleshraker, so each Fleshraker makes two Spawn and each Spawn does two damage per Fleshraker. So (2 Spawn x 2 Fleshraker) = 4 Spawn and (4 Spawn x 2 damage x 2 Fleshraker) = 16 damage. Ouch! This is to each opponent so works in Commander too.
My favorite thing was when the golos players were like "oh don't worry, I'm playing the gates version" to sound safer, but in reality I honestly feel the gates version was way harder to interact with and better in casual if the player was smart with their maze's end. So I would be sitting there and just go "and that's the more powerful casual version of the deck, so your point?" And then they would put the deck away because they realized their trick didn't work. Nadu is very in your face commander broken, so I feel as if people won't do the "oh it's the N version" as much with it as golos, who was subtly broken and a person with bad card evaluation could maybe miss how powerful it is.
It’s amazing in the deck. There was a list that top 8’d the first 5k after prerelease and it ran memnites, khalani garden, ton of free stuff and imo I think that version is way better than the list here.
might sound silly but if nadu becomes a thing do you put volatile stormdrake in the sideboard to steal your opponents copy (or their nantuko/bestowed creature)? not sure if its good but might be funny
@@frankomancer fair, i was just going off the video(small sample size etc) happened 2 of the 3 games where the opponent just ran it out, all 3 if you count seth running it out in match 1,
Naw because it's a creature based combo WotC will be more tolerant of it. Second sunrise isn't as easy for most fair decks to interact with meaningfully.
After a couple games of brawl against Nadu, i just quit now. Not interested in how long their turns take, and that the game insists on me responding to every trigger despite auto passing.
@@Enja_Near So no matter how many times I click auto pass, no matter when I do it, it keeps asking me on every single trigger. It's not just that deck. It's probably cause i'm playing eldrazi.
This seems to be on the level of Leovold in terms of how easy it is to make super frustrating to face as they play solitaire for 15 minutes in hopes of getting off a nondeterministic combo or just grind their value engine.
@@curtissearle6462 It was more an impossible to overcome value play. It's just 3ould overwhelm your answers and its trivial to fuel the gy. It was more a comb deck when bridge from below was in the deck before they banned it and then it just became focused on getting Hogaak out asap
They could have made their first "twice per turn" on a simple trigger of a creature, BUT NOOO they decided to literally make a trigger confusing to read and make the creature give it to every single creature. It vould have been as simple as a morbid opportunist that triggers twice instead of one. At least to let us ease into the "twice a turn"
Creatures you control gain "when this creature becomes targetted, cast growth spiral. This ability triggers twice each turn." Simplified enough for ya?
Seth you are incredibly wrong about artifact lands being safe to unban, Luis Scott Vargas and Reid Duke did a No-ban list Modern video a year or two ago and LSV Mulled to 4 with Affinity and Absolutely Crushed Eldrazi Winter Eldrazi with Nothing but Artifact lands and Urza's Saga. The game wasn't even remotely close.
The tickets on Arena have their own place in the store to spend them. You just need to spend gems before you can spend tickets, cause fuck the free to play peeps. ... like me.
Well everyone kept saying they preferred cards that would spawn new archetypes rather than bolster already existing strategies.....WotC heard you loud and clear
The Nadu Combo looks to be rather slow. That last turn (to win) took your time allotment from 16m54s to 09m24s. Granted, you did do other stuff etc, but that's 7m30s out of a 25 minute time limit. Your opponent went from 18m27s to 18m27s in that same timespan. The correct thing to do as the opponent is to let you go through the motions. 2nd round it took you from 5m35s to 0m35s. So 5 minutes. Left with 35 seconds total. If your opponent had won a single game, you would have lost that match. In chess, if I'm in a forced sequence that leads to mate in 25 moves, and we both know it, but you only have 2 seconds on the clock and I have 30 seconds, you are going to have to go through the motions to show that you can indeed make 25 moves in 2 seconds to win. If you can't do it in the allotted time, you lose the game. Same here. And it could get worse. If Wizards decides that there will be a tournament time limit (e.g. 5 rounds, each round has a 25 minute time limit, but your tournament time limit is 100 minutes), it becomes even more dangerous to have these slow combos, and more correct to let you run through every part of it. The slowness might even be what makes Wizards band the card, like how they banned Krark-Clan Ironworks.
Seth is really dumb when it comes to managing game time during streams, you'd think he would learn to juggle talking with chat and playing his turns after so many years
He is just having fun? I don't understand why you have to insult the man. He is having a good time playing magic while chatting with friends. That sounds smart to me @@frankomancer
Also, this combo is way faster to execute in paper than in MODO. You can simply say once what action you gonna do each time and then point to each creature, which is current target. That's why usually deck speed is measured in number of turns rather than raw clock time.
2 things: This combo is much faster in paper as you can just pile the cards you have targeted together, and the rest not. On the MTGO side, I wouldn't be surprised if they will change something to cause the board to reorganize properly to help the triggers if they don't ban the deck alright. Timer is only an issue because of how the combo needs to be mananged. Infinite combos used to be even harder to manage and they fixed it.
I can't remember the name but there's a Phyrexian green pump spell that could really help break Nadu. Just pay two life if you're tapped out and pump Nadu for free and get the ability.
Aspiring spike said ral was the best idk if it was sincere but he definitely thinks its way better than his intial take where he thought it was activately bad
Is there a profitable way in modern to make your lands creatures and the target them with nadu out? It sounds so funny to me to win by tageting your lands over and over with, lets say, an untap effect
My tin foil theory for nadu is in limited it was fine cause the only instant equip would be stone forge mystic. Like it’s still a bomb but the probably had to give the twice just so it would for the big Timmy decks. But turn to extended formats and you get shuko and thassa oracle and shit.
Maybe Nadu won’t be top tier because it is too annoying to pilot. That way players won’t bother goldfishing it online to get to the most tuned list. Wishful thinking since I know magic players will torture themselves to make the best deck
Also remember that four horseman's did exist, and that was non-deterministic infinite combo where you couldn't even make shortcut, and had to repeatably shuffle your deck.
The over-the-top comments on "why did they make this?" and driving the narrative is OP is why wotc shouldn't base ANY decision on social media influencers. There's no way this should be banned. Rather, the player base should respect the card.
I feel so bad for WvanHuss, Seth was so distracted he never noticed any of the cheers except for the only one that didn't matter xD Edit: 42:02 Finally happened!! 😂
It's really a shame. Nadu is a cool card. I was going to build a Nadu/Ivy spellthief commander deck with mutate creatures, rotpriest, and Orvar copyspell shell. I think it would be a somewhat fair iteration but people are too leary of Nadu. Rightfully so. I just worry about becoming archenemy cuz im running nadu in something most might consider jank. Maybe it's okay as just a card in the 99.
Nadu gets broken with so many single cards that no wonder people hate/fear it from spoiler season. For example: Seeker of skybreak , 9 triggers per round cycle. Kiora follower + another similar creature. Return to coralhelm. Small value effects just snowball into sick engines just cuz of Nadu.
May be a hot take, but any deck that folds to a decent burn hand is not banworthy. T1: goblin guide T2: Rift Bolt + Lava Spike T3: Boros Charm + Bolt For a deck that can't go off before turn 3 at best and requires fetch lands and shock lands, there's nothing too broken about it, is it powerful? Very, is it banworthy? Nah. Besides, WotC finally figured that the only way to make sure no card is banworthy is to just print five decks worth of broken decks at the same insane powerlevel.
My general impression of Nadu outside of EDH is that, yes, the constructed cards aren't banworthy levels of power imo just for the fact that they are very inconsistent and if you don't have Nadu you just die; that said it is extremely powerful. Even stating that, though, I still think it should be banned because the play pattern is just the most time wasty combo I've seen in a while. It just takes sooooo long to do what it does and that makes it a card that I personally would like to not see.
As someone who likes really stupid and janky combos, I'm wondering how well Nadu would work in a deck built around Dopplegang. Adding "draw up to X cards" to that spell seems like a great addition. Obviously depends on the number of creatures you target, but it's still a really nice addition.
Nadu tin foil hat they made it for commander mostly cedh and didn’t think it would actually be anything but a tier 3 deck so didn’t test it as much as they should
His sarcastic narrative of "oh, don't worry. This is the so and so powered down version of the deck," shouldn't be a thing. I'm building it as an auras deck and refuse to include scute swarm and Shuko. It'll be a tuned-strong deck to play at tables that have the ability to completely blow me out.
they really need a system...make them...uhm..maybe not...make them idk, commune tokens...or something silly like that. Trigger? remove a counter. But then you get the problem of things multiplying tokens and stuff...ugh...
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man they really messed up with the restriction on Nadu, twice per turn per creature is not a restriction when formats have zero cost creatures and zero cost equip abilities not to mention blink effects and bounce effects that just bypass the restriction altogether. what was the wotc design team actually thinking
Probably, "Well we're making 2 drop 3/3s with upside, might as well continue the power creep."
"Hmm, been a long time since we printed a busted 3 mana simic card for modern..."
If it were reasonable then it would be unplayable in modern. As it is, it'll take time to tell if it's too good. It's obviously OP in commander, but that's fine because this is a modern set.
This was by design. They want big impact FIRE design so here we are.
The problem is that ability triggers it too. Remove that and that the land enters tapped.
Twice per creature per turn is not a restriction. It's a challenge.
Its not even a challenge at that point
45:20 Very fitting to get your land destroyed right as you're reading comment from a viewer about having sent in a Ponza list. And all because of the eternal betrayer, f6...
Seth, I love your MTGO content (and I certainly don't begrudge playing slow due to interacting with chat -- that's kind of the entire point of streaming, after all), but it'd be very good for you to utilize the *good* clock-saving features that MTGO has. You can easily bind a hotkey to "auto-yield to this in future" (and one to "auto-yes to this in future", and both of these are also pretty easy to remove if necessary). Doing so saves a massive amount of clock and would be especially helpful in decks like these with trigger-and-click-intensive combos. Getting clock-savings from auto-yields reduces reliance on a clunker like f6, which is not meant for general usage (f6 is designed for empty-handed boardstates; toggling "pass if no play available" or hotkeying-and-using "pass until you can respond" are much more appropriate "go"s anyway).
Modern/Pioneer content is my favorite and you narrate well enough so playing MTGO is fine to watch too
Seth: What was Wizards thinking when they printed Nadu?
Wizards: Money, Money, Money
Commander. That's the answer
Tracking in paper looks easier, tbh. I've got a Crown Royal bag full of dice that I'd *love* to distribute on a bunch of insects
you could just put them on one side of the board instead of setting up 4 dice
that reaction on the end of the first match was gold lol 35 seconds to go and MODO not cooperating
I can tell you for a fact: Necrodominance is busted. I run it as a 4 of in my mono black scam modern deck. It.combos with Sheoldred. I have spent 18 life, drawn 18 cards and gained 36 life of Sheoldred triggers. Then play 4 Soul Spikes to win the game. It is the nuts. Win on my turn. Win on my opponents turn. It dont matter. Game over.
If this magnitude of power creep continues wizards is going to turn magic onto Yugioh in 2 years. But then when you don’t plan on being the CEO in two years you might as well suck the game dry.
on safekeeper: can double target the creatures with it if u hold priority with the nadu trigger on the stack before the 1st activation resolves, hit ctrl mode for it in arenas
consider displacer kitten, lotus cobra/tireless provisoner/landfall nissa for stormtastic value (partivcularly with safekeeper), reality chip, is lightning greaves legal in the format? Lightning greaves gonna go nuts in commander versions
I'm pretty sure MTGO will only stacks objects which are exactly the same. So, if I understand correctly, as long as you know which stack is the "spent" tokens, then you're good.
2 fleshrakers and 1 echoes of eternity means an extra 4 mana and SIXTEEN damage for EACH colorless spell
To those who are still not following: Echoes copies both the cast and ETB trigger of each Fleshraker, so each Fleshraker makes two Spawn and each Spawn does two damage per Fleshraker. So (2 Spawn x 2 Fleshraker) = 4 Spawn and (4 Spawn x 2 damage x 2 Fleshraker) = 16 damage. Ouch!
This is to each opponent so works in Commander too.
Spawn gang commander and kozilek's command will win before you even need to cast echoes of eternity
Nadu dropped and instantly blew up the cedh scene
My favorite thing was when the golos players were like "oh don't worry, I'm playing the gates version" to sound safer, but in reality I honestly feel the gates version was way harder to interact with and better in casual if the player was smart with their maze's end. So I would be sitting there and just go "and that's the more powerful casual version of the deck, so your point?" And then they would put the deck away because they realized their trick didn't work. Nadu is very in your face commander broken, so I feel as if people won't do the "oh it's the N version" as much with it as golos, who was subtly broken and a person with bad card evaluation could maybe miss how powerful it is.
Wouldn’t a dryad arbor be good in the deck? It’s a land you can chord for that always gives you 2
more triggers.
It’s amazing in the deck. There was a list that top 8’d the first 5k after prerelease and it ran memnites, khalani garden, ton of free stuff and imo I think that version is way better than the list here.
might sound silly but if nadu becomes a thing do you put volatile stormdrake in the sideboard to steal your opponents copy (or their nantuko/bestowed creature)? not sure if its good but might be funny
having your opponent play Nadu in the mirror and imagining you'll be untapping afterwards seems optimistic
@@frankomancer fair, i was just going off the video(small sample size etc) happened 2 of the 3 games where the opponent just ran it out, all 3 if you count seth running it out in match 1,
Funny to come back to this months later with storm flopping, nadu getting banned, and fleshraker being a core piece to the current best deck in legacy
"Maybe we should just devour the moon" -- Saffron Olive, 2024
Ooh does Nadu make my Derevi birdcage deck a casual bird deck.
would watch a video of "most broken mana costs" especially if suspend cards are differentiated from 0 cost. also to see where/if BR or 1BR makes it
It look like eggs. It is soliter combo. Now they can unban second sunrise. Because it is same phone
Naw because it's a creature based combo WotC will be more tolerant of it. Second sunrise isn't as easy for most fair decks to interact with meaningfully.
After a couple games of brawl against Nadu, i just quit now. Not interested in how long their turns take, and that the game insists on me responding to every trigger despite auto passing.
Shift + Enter on arena is equivalent to F6 on MTGO, just fyi
@@electriicnine How would I shift + enter on mobile? I had auto pass on, it still asks on every trigger if you have something you can do.
Agreed, unless I get the nuts I usually just scoop. Dont have 2 hours to play a brawl game
@@Cawbyon mobile you have to select autopass when you are prompted with priority, not beforehand. Weird annoying glitch.
@@Enja_Near So no matter how many times I click auto pass, no matter when I do it, it keeps asking me on every single trigger. It's not just that deck. It's probably cause i'm playing eldrazi.
Can’t wait to watch!
Nadu really just seems like WotC seeing if the Commander RC really is dead.
This seems to be on the level of Leovold in terms of how easy it is to make super frustrating to face as they play solitaire for 15 minutes in hopes of getting off a nondeterministic combo or just grind their value engine.
Oh nice a cool Simic 3 drop value engine that I can play around with now that Uro is ba-
aaaaaand its just a Thoracle combo piece 😭💀
They should just unban Uro frankly
i know simic value engines are so hard to come by, i hope you'll make do somehow you poor thing
@@frankomancerin Modern? Yes
You should definitely do stuff with the Professor when you are out there and also Command Zone I am sure would love to have you there lol
if you ever do swing by card kingdom me and my pod would die to play a commander game with you!
No. Nadu, unlike Hogaak, at least costs mana to cast.
Everything after that is a valid comparison.
I think it's worth mentioning that Nadu is playable as a fair card as well. I think Hoogak was only ever a combo card.
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It was more an impossible to overcome value play. It's just 3ould overwhelm your answers and its trivial to fuel the gy. It was more a comb deck when bridge from below was in the deck before they banned it and then it just became focused on getting Hogaak out asap
are we getting Nadu summer?
They could have made their first "twice per turn" on a simple trigger of a creature, BUT NOOO they decided to literally make a trigger confusing to read and make the creature give it to every single creature. It vould have been as simple as a morbid opportunist that triggers twice instead of one. At least to let us ease into the "twice a turn"
Creatures you control gain "when this creature becomes targetted, cast growth spiral. This ability triggers twice each turn."
Simplified enough for ya?
Seth you are incredibly wrong about artifact lands being safe to unban, Luis Scott Vargas and Reid Duke did a No-ban list Modern video a year or two ago and LSV Mulled to 4 with Affinity and Absolutely Crushed Eldrazi Winter Eldrazi with Nothing but Artifact lands and Urza's Saga. The game wasn't even remotely close.
I mean...ban Urzas Saga already
37:00 Nadu trigger counters. Up to 2 per creature, clear em out each turn. lol edit: oh and Shuko is going for $30 now.
Remember that blinking Nadu also reset counter for all creatures.
The tickets on Arena have their own place in the store to spend them. You just need to spend gems before you can spend tickets, cause fuck the free to play peeps. ... like me.
Well everyone kept saying they preferred cards that would spawn new archetypes rather than bolster already existing strategies.....WotC heard you loud and clear
Modern Horizons is meant to rotate the format.
@@Logan-lz5gu 🥱 not really
On the flipwalker rankings Seth, you GOTTA play some Ruby storm, Ral is beyond cracked in that deck, I think it will change your mind!
The Nadu Combo looks to be rather slow. That last turn (to win) took your time allotment from 16m54s to 09m24s. Granted, you did do other stuff etc, but that's 7m30s out of a 25 minute time limit. Your opponent went from 18m27s to 18m27s in that same timespan. The correct thing to do as the opponent is to let you go through the motions. 2nd round it took you from 5m35s to 0m35s. So 5 minutes. Left with 35 seconds total. If your opponent had won a single game, you would have lost that match.
In chess, if I'm in a forced sequence that leads to mate in 25 moves, and we both know it, but you only have 2 seconds on the clock and I have 30 seconds, you are going to have to go through the motions to show that you can indeed make 25 moves in 2 seconds to win. If you can't do it in the allotted time, you lose the game.
Same here. And it could get worse. If Wizards decides that there will be a tournament time limit (e.g. 5 rounds, each round has a 25 minute time limit, but your tournament time limit is 100 minutes), it becomes even more dangerous to have these slow combos, and more correct to let you run through every part of it.
The slowness might even be what makes Wizards band the card, like how they banned Krark-Clan Ironworks.
Don't pay attention to Saffron Olives clock. He waste so much time each game talking to chat you can't look at that as a reliable data point
Seth is really dumb when it comes to managing game time during streams, you'd think he would learn to juggle talking with chat and playing his turns after so many years
He is just having fun? I don't understand why you have to insult the man. He is having a good time playing magic while chatting with friends. That sounds smart to me @@frankomancer
Also, this combo is way faster to execute in paper than in MODO.
You can simply say once what action you gonna do each time and then point to each creature, which is current target.
That's why usually deck speed is measured in number of turns rather than raw clock time.
2 things: This combo is much faster in paper as you can just pile the cards you have targeted together, and the rest not. On the MTGO side, I wouldn't be surprised if they will change something to cause the board to reorganize properly to help the triggers if they don't ban the deck alright. Timer is only an issue because of how the combo needs to be mananged. Infinite combos used to be even harder to manage and they fixed it.
I can't remember the name but there's a Phyrexian green pump spell that could really help break Nadu. Just pay two life if you're tapped out and pump Nadu for free and get the ability.
Nadu😂 face palm..
Aspiring spike said ral was the best idk if it was sincere but he definitely thinks its way better than his intial take where he thought it was activately bad
I think he said best flip planeswalker in the set. However, it does seem like he likes the mono red storm list going out there.
@@jasonkorf7700 thats what I had meant I should've been more clear
Can an instant speed archive trap counter a nadu thassa win?
Is there a profitable way in modern to make your lands creatures and the target them with nadu out? It sounds so funny to me to win by tageting your lands over and over with, lets say, an untap effect
You could bestow the nantuko onto a soul sister for huge life gain
My tin foil theory for nadu is in limited it was fine cause the only instant equip would be stone forge mystic. Like it’s still a bomb but the probably had to give the twice just so it would for the big Timmy decks. But turn to extended formats and you get shuko and thassa oracle and shit.
Build a Mardu deck with Phlage lightning helix and that is How to get sorin to flip without playing soulsisters
Maybe Nadu won’t be top tier because it is too annoying to pilot. That way players won’t bother goldfishing it online to get to the most tuned list.
Wishful thinking since I know magic players will torture themselves to make the best deck
Also remember that four horseman's did exist, and that was non-deterministic infinite combo where you couldn't even make shortcut, and had to repeatably shuffle your deck.
You should try eldrich evolution or neoform in this deck @saphronolive
The over-the-top comments on "why did they make this?" and driving the narrative is OP is why wotc shouldn't base ANY decision on social media influencers. There's no way this should be banned. Rather, the player base should respect the card.
I feel so bad for WvanHuss, Seth was so distracted he never noticed any of the cheers except for the only one that didn't matter xD
Edit: 42:02 Finally happened!! 😂
It's really a shame. Nadu is a cool card. I was going to build a Nadu/Ivy spellthief commander deck with mutate creatures, rotpriest, and Orvar copyspell shell. I think it would be a somewhat fair iteration but people are too leary of Nadu. Rightfully so. I just worry about becoming archenemy cuz im running nadu in something most might consider jank. Maybe it's okay as just a card in the 99.
Nadu gets broken with so many single cards that no wonder people hate/fear it from spoiler season.
For example: Seeker of skybreak , 9 triggers per round cycle.
Kiora follower + another similar creature.
Return to coralhelm.
Small value effects just snowball into sick engines just cuz of Nadu.
I can see this card getting banned solely on the logistical and book keeping nightmare it brings.
In paper it won't be a problem imo dice, counters etc...this is one of those digital design disasters that just can't translate easily
May be a hot take, but any deck that folds to a decent burn hand is not banworthy.
T1: goblin guide
T2: Rift Bolt + Lava Spike
T3: Boros Charm + Bolt
For a deck that can't go off before turn 3 at best and requires fetch lands and shock lands, there's nothing too broken about it, is it powerful? Very, is it banworthy? Nah.
Besides, WotC finally figured that the only way to make sure no card is banworthy is to just print five decks worth of broken decks at the same insane powerlevel.
My general impression of Nadu outside of EDH is that, yes, the constructed cards aren't banworthy levels of power imo just for the fact that they are very inconsistent and if you don't have Nadu you just die; that said it is extremely powerful. Even stating that, though, I still think it should be banned because the play pattern is just the most time wasty combo I've seen in a while. It just takes sooooo long to do what it does and that makes it a card that I personally would like to not see.
Sorin is really exceptional in necro decks
We are Yugioh now boys
😂 no
@@TheEvolver311Current Yu-Gi-Oh is legacy but both players start with a Nadu on the battlefield
@@laytonjr6601 yugioh is just degenerate TOK decks
Magic doesn't really have that
Nadu will be part of wotc 3 mana simic banned club
As someone who likes really stupid and janky combos, I'm wondering how well Nadu would work in a deck built around Dopplegang. Adding "draw up to X cards" to that spell seems like a great addition. Obviously depends on the number of creatures you target, but it's still a really nice addition.
Seems like a hat on a hat
Silly part about doppelgang is that you can copy Nadu and keep copy, this will reset 2per creature limit
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How does she know that you targeted her?
How does she know that you targeted her?
How does she know that you really trully targeted her?
Seth open more packs please 🙏🏻
Value town
Bird up!
Nadu tin foil hat they made it for commander mostly cedh and didn’t think it would actually be anything but a tier 3 deck so didn’t test it as much as they should
Nadu is a cedh only commander. It will be ruled zero out of casual.
His sarcastic narrative of "oh, don't worry. This is the so and so powered down version of the deck," shouldn't be a thing. I'm building it as an auras deck and refuse to include scute swarm and Shuko. It'll be a tuned-strong deck to play at tables that have the ability to completely blow me out.
No its not, next!
Rakdos scam is mid in timeless. Sultai/Dimir scam is the real deal.
Not Ragavan, not Hogaak
Do you know... Nadu?
"90% of magic players concede right before they draw their winning card" is one of the dumbest fucking comments I've ever seen.
Nadu so busted
I played against it in commander. It was disgusting.
they really need a system...make them...uhm..maybe not...make them idk, commune tokens...or something silly like that. Trigger? remove a counter. But then you get the problem of things multiplying tokens and stuff...ugh...
This guys voice goes up and down sooooo much.
Ral
Tammy
Ajani
Sorin
Grist
We ws
Nah dude.
This was pretty boring to watch. But that's just my opinion. Hopefully they ban this crap asap. Snooze fest for real.
Please never play this deck again it's painful to watch