Thank you for making this video. I worked on the film for its entire production. I worked in Look Development: Dino skin, water, compositing, smoke, dust, and the meteor strike. The carnotaur and the river crossing scene were inspired by an exhibit at the LA natural history museum. As shown in the video, in the original story, the meteor happened at the end of picture and all the dinos died. After the story changed to have the meteor at the end of the first act and the dinos living happily ever after in "the Great Valley", we asked ourselves, "Didn't Don Bluth just do this story?" There was an underwater shot in the original introduction that I worked on that was scrapped because of an IDENTICAL shot in "The Land Before Time". The animation program that was to become "Maya" was developed for Dinosaur. After production and "Wildlife" being cancelled, the 3 to 4 hundred artists who worked on the project were fired. Again, thanks for putting together this video. It is a melancholy memory for me.
No matter how much a film is crtiticised it always has its fans that felt a big resonance with this film that was a highlight in their life. and i loved this film as much as i did in grade school, still my favorite dino movie ever, i still think the cgi is unmatched. It still looks beautiful today. I even wanted to direct a parody replica for a school recital, it didnt happen due to school not taking me seriously lol but i was so passionate about making movies series and animations because of that movie! I think The imaging aged well , its so believable , the merging of the background and the cgi! And i love the final story ! Your work is appreciated and didnt go to waste in my book!
Considering that Disney has remade their animated films into live action remakes, they might revisit the script and make another adaptation of Dinosaur (2000).
Kinda upsets me how the wider public view dinosaurs as a topic for childrens entertainment, and all dinosaur movies, no matter how realistic or beautiful, have to be dumbed down for kids with talking dinosaur characters and side characters. That's the problem I have with disney and larger studios, they don't care about the passion people put into the project, if it isn't marketable or makes a lot of money it's worthless and either needs to be changed to check the boxes, or be scrapped all together. Like, im all for more fictional narratives with less realistic dinosaurs but like a slightly realistic silent film would've been so much better than what we got, depicting the lives of actual animals instead of simple happy going lizards that were aimed for kids
I love this movie as is, but yes it is a shame we didn’t get what could’ve been. But I say it’s a lot less acceptable for the Walking With Dinosaurs movie from 2013. At the very least the Disney movie took itself seriously and wasn’t dumbed down to trash like that one was. And yeah, it’s true it seems the general public only thinks two extremes for dinosaurs: make them talk with dumbed down dialogue for kids, or make them super violent monsters for action or horror….
Dinosaur was actually one of my favorite movies and I actually do like looking back at it and remembering how I used to believe that everything was animated and that they really did make the scenery so realistic until when I realized that the scenery was real while the dinosaurs were animated. Hearing all of this about the movie and how originally the movie was gonna be stop motion really did surprise me. Imagine if someday someone looks back at these concepts, scripts, and storylines and decides to actually make the Dinosaur movie using one of those original stories
@@lampad4549 how is he a fanboy if he said he likes it? By your bullshit logic, if I said I still liked the movie even if anyone else didn't, I'd be a fanboy. Grow up and learn things
Even though earlier versions May not ever see the light of Day, the movie that we got was a beautiful, incredible and amazing piece of cinematic art, close to a masterpiece, and a beloved movie that would be forever remember as one of the BEST dinosaur movies of all time, sharing it's place with Jurassic Park
I've had the "Making of" book on my shelf for as long as I can remember, and I have to say, it's odd seeing all this beautiful art and progress work juxtaposed with a hundred pages of people saying "we had NO idea what we were doing with this."
I was really happy about that too. They even had to recreate their models from scratch to be able to use them with modern tools. You can also spot Aladar in the background when the princesses are singing together. I actually wish we could have gotten a little more though, like Zini in the bathroom scene or Suri alongside Antonio Madrigal.
I honestly don’t blame the crew who worked on the movie and didn’t want the dinosaurs to talk nor have a lighter tone, cuz they didn’t want to do that. They didn’t want to make a kiddie dinosaur movie, they wanted to show the dark and mature elements of dinosaurs
it's rather sad how much this mirrors the production of the WWD movie i guess if we want a realistic dinosaur movie it's gonna have to be made outside of holly wood because they just don't get it.
I don't think we'll ever get a Dinosaur movie in the style of a silent documentary which is a shame. It's already been proven there's an audience that kind of film. I could do nothing but suffer in silence as he mentioned how audiences got all excited with the first trailer but got turned down the second they knew the dinosaurs would talk. And the thing is, I love the concept of a movie with talking dinosaurs, but only if it was planned to be that way. I didn't mind the dialogue in the WWD movie until I found out it was meant to have no dialogue at all until some dumb executive thought that they wouldn't be relatable if the dinos didn't talk I love Dinosaur. It's one of my favorite Disney movies. But the missed potential of a dino-doc like film with that animation quality gives me mixed feelings.
There are a few “sound effects only” edits of Dinosaur scenes. All we need now is for someone to sync the music, and we can get a glimpse of how it could’ve looked as a no-dialogue final product.
@deldante dialogue-free storytelling has been proven to be successful in the past; just look at many of the Pixar shorts, or again, the Prologue & Desert Crossing scenes from Dinosaur. I can definitely see the appeal: ppl have seen talking animals done to death, and "dino nature documentaries" (esp those of quality) are few & far btwn, so any opportunity to see one would be highly welcome. Besides, do you think everyone enjoyed hearing "mr love monkey" thru out the film??
I’ve been thinking of both this film and the WWD film and I can say without a doubt the Disney film is so much better in that it takes itself seriously and isn’t dumbed down in dialogue like WWD was, which really sucks because WWD looked great visually, but it ended up becoming a worse “remake” (of sorts) of Dinosaur….
I have no idea why to this day big budget movie studios still believe people wouldn't get behind a docu-style dinosaur movie with no talking animals, and trust me I can go on all day about this stupid aspect. But I guess the best we got to this day is Prehistoric Planet (which btw GOOD LORD THEY BETTER NOT MAKE THAT A MOVIE! 😤)
Not bad of the video of Dinosaur 2000, one of my favorite dinosaur movies and Disney movies of all time and a huge part of my childhood. That was great of you adding great points and explanation of the Behind the Scenes and the project of Dinosaur 2000. Overall, not bad but good video.
Nice to see all this in one place! I had to search all over the internet for most of this after I found Will Stout's blog several years ago. Brian Franczak will be greatly missed. He was my favorite paleoartist
“Why did they make a big deal out of talking dinosaurs?” Because the filmmakers didn’t want them to talk. That’s it. Movies and shows without dialogue exists and most are pretty damn good. The topic of dinosaurs aren’t exclusively for kids, and people/media/companies need to stop thinking that it is. I’ll end this by saying: I grew up with this movie and I still love it. I’ve played the ps2 game and I love it. But the fact remains that what could and should have been was invalidated and changed, against the filmmakers will, is kind of upsetting
I’m with you partner and I pretty much agree with you that Disney should do more dinosaur movies, television series and other media but they’ll do them soon.
I genuinely believe the project would've greatly benefited from a, for a lack of a better term, "Ghibli" approach to it's story: Mundane is beautiful. Trying to force the project into these pre-existing formats and have love interests, comedy reliefs and action scenes.. just made everything feel that bit more artificial and redacted from the atmosphere surrounding the actual animals, the dinosaurs. The mystery & majesty is the biggest allure in knowing dinosaurs were once real, and art should appreciate that, instead of trying to shoehorn it into something we have conventionalized and normalized. I don't by any means dislike the final product, but it's a pale shadow of the immense potential they had on their hands. Disagreements over the dinosaurs talking vs. not talking seems to me like a culmination of these clashing perspectives.
At around 8:00 when talking about NOT using the trex as the main villain, I’m glad they used the Carnotaurus. Rexy would’ve definitely be overused had they went that route And I fell in love with the devil horned Carnotaurus that they brought us. He was a big, mean, scary bully. It like the makes wanted to make sure that Rexy was out of our minds when watching this movie
So basically, they took a film that was meant to be experimental and for adults, turned it into another conventional kids film, and then blamed its unremarkable outcome on being too adult-oriented? The absolute nerve.
Tibbet should not have gone to Disney. Instead, he should have chosen or optioned other animation studios. We know Disney will never ever accept this kind of concept and idea. Tibbet should try reconsidering his plot and concept. It's an artistic masterpiece and the story, the plot, the characters and the transition in the ending are undoubtedly creative and compelling! Honestly, Dinosaur 2000 was one of my favorite, childhood movies. But Dinosaurs by Phil Tibbet is now my current, compelled, dinosaur film, that I will pay for to watch and see how it executes well. Please, Tibbet.. reconsider your conceptual masterpiece and make that stop motion film! I want to watch it. Even though I'm the first and, currently, the only movie fan, who wants to watch your film, I'm certain and sure.. that everyone else, who had discovered your concept for this film, are interested and intrigued too. I hope you will still make this film in the future. It's not too late. We NEED and WANT a dinosaur film that is not kid-friendly. I'm sorry for the kids, okay? But it's time for the dinosaurs to entertain the matured ones, who perceive great, artistic masterpiece. Fortunately, I'm one of them.
I wish Disney would revisit Dinosaur these days or in the future for a sequel or remake. In fact there’s a lot of Disney films like the Black Cauldron that I wish got remakes in this age of sequels and reboots. These films never did quite well and deserve a second chance to give people something different. However it doesn’t seem like Disney will ever do another dinosaur themed film ever again. With the revival of the Jurassic Park franchise and the failure of the good dinosaur, a dinosaur film by them isn’t guaranteed to be the success they would want it to be. I just realised that we really only have 2 dinosaur films from the biggest company on earth. That’s just mind boggling to me.
16:33 This is so funny to me, because even as a kid, I thought the first 6 minutes of the movie were the best part, and everything went downhill the second the lemurs were introduced. The Carnosaurus chase sequence on its own thrilled me and had me on the edge of my seat, wondering if the little dinosaur contained within the egg would survive to adulthood if its existence was under such threat before it was even born. Disney really underestimated how many kids LOVE nature documentaries, BECAUSE of all their drama and violence, not despite it. Survival horror as a genre is super compelling, and the prehistoric world as re-imagined and reconstructed by humans minds is the best setting I can think of for such a film. What a shame that the only animation studios large enough to undertake a mature story just wanted to dumb it down "for kids." :/ Kids can feel it when adults condescend to them, and movie plot lines are no different. I certainly noticed. Bambi and Fantasia were among my most rewatched movies in elementary school; I would have adored a no-dialogue animated movie about Dinosaurs in a similar vein as presented in the trailer. Hell, I'd enjoy that now too, lol.
Seriously nothing about the movie we got was 100% child friendly it still was pretty serious, mature and dramatic. You want generic and kid friendly bullshit there's the 2013 Walking with Dinosaurs with its poop jokes and non stop voice over.
@@kennethsatria6607 Disney's Dinosaur was very much intended for the family-friendly audience, with some elements of cheeky humor and a rather generic "don't give up" plotline. And while Kron and the Carnotaurs did give the film a touch of dark drama, there were lots of other segments that felt overly bubbly, and I personally don't think it mixed well. 2013 Walking with Dinosaurs is just worse in every way, no argument. But comparisons aside, Dinosaur had a lot of potential it didn't tap on.
Glad I found this video, I’ve been seeing a lot of videos reacting or analyzing this movie recently and I’m happy that you showed the lengthy development of this movie. I always found this movie’s production to be Fascinating and just how much it changed from a stop motion film to cgi animated film. I genuinely had no idea that two people died during the filming of the live action segments of the film, was not expecting that part at all lol. Absolutely great work! 👍
I loved this movie as a kid. I watched it over and over until my parents were too tired of the same movie. Seeing it today brings me lots of good memories and nostalgia. And as you’ve pointed out: the visual are astonishing, but taking emotions aside, the story is not the greatest. I would’ve loved to see the version in which there is no dinosaur dialogue at all… Great video mate!
It seems like both Disney’s Dinosaur and the more recent Walking With Dinosaurs film had the same thing going on behind the scenes. Both were films that were meant to be visually told stories, with no voices whatsoever, and with the use some of the most amazing effects ever put to film, but then some creatively bankrupt studio executive came in and said “No, you need to make them talk and/or sing because it makes us money”, thus taking what was being made and watering it down in some way with voices and dialogue. I gotta say, though, I can forgive the Disney film, not because it’s something I have fond memories of, but at the very least the voices and dialogue were delivered with sincerity and it took itself seriously, and any semblance of jokes, while they weren’t the best, were nothing cringeworthy either. That and the voices were all unique and fun to listen to. Can’t say the same for WWD, which arguably put a lot more effort in using the knowledge known at the time (since the knowledge we had back in 2013 was a far cry from what we had back in 2000), but because of those previously mentioned studioexecusaurus boomerensis doing what they do best, we ended up getting a film with super annoying voices and dialogue that was the complete opposite: Absolutely watered down garbage dialogue with some of the stupidest most below basic jokes, all of which just looks down on its target audience like they’re society’s biggest idiots. It’s really a shame that we had this whole process going on *TWICE* and it only got worse the second time…. Honestly, we really do deserve better with dinosaurs in movies like this (and in general). I won’t lie I would like to see Phil Tippet make his dinosaur movie, without having creatively bankrupt money-eaters standing over him, or anyone who wants to try it.
I agree I would love to see a sequel to this movie. In my opinion I'm upset the trex wasn't the antagonist of the film because trex is my favorite dinosaur. I like Carntaurus but trex to me would have been a better antagonist, also Carntaurus was to big. They only grow up to 12 feet tall if they wanted to use a dino that was big that wasn't trex they should have used giganotosaurus in my opinion, because they can get to 18 to 20 feet tall. I would also love to see a dinosaur film where the trex is the protagonist or a twist hero, because I'd love to see the whole blood thirsty monster stereotype flipped on it's head while still showing trex was a hunter that's not to be messed with.
@@ashtonsherrod7824 I think the reason why Disney didn’t use Trex as the Main Antagonist of the Film was because they didn’t want to make it too much like Sharptooth from “The Land Before Time” from 1988 since “Dinosaur” was already feeling too much like from the Movie & didn’t want to use have a Trex in it to make it similar to Sharptooth by stealing the same Dinosaur to put in it & wanted to use a different Dinosaur of a Carnotaurus which were 2 of them as the Main Antagonists just to make the Movie different than “The Land Before Time”. It’s my own Theory to why I believe is the real reason why Trexs was not in “Dinosaur” in my honest opinion.
I'm 100% positive if they weren't talking, then an equally big portion of the audience would have been horrified to realize Disney wants them to look at a silent movie for 2 hours. Be happy no singing occurred, alright? The Lion King, now that's a true stupid story... directly photo realizing a cartoon, H-WHYY???
The movie would be better if they just took it seriously and played it straight as a survival tale. It was basically another land before time only with less compelling characters
This movie is ride of nostalgia and good feelings when I watch it. It’s just as good and holds up pretty well 20 plus years later. I love Disney’s Dinosaur like it’s a family member to me.
The story with the 2 Brothers did sound better than the final product. Shame. The final product ended up being too similar imo to Land Before Time but with less emotion and characterization.
This is one of my favorite movie of all time. I loved to see dinosaurs talking as a kid. It was just PERFECT. I never loved stupid princess movies this much.
It's Nice that the Main Character was a Styracosaurus (I think later this would be Eema).I think Surrey was the first Plan of the "Ancient Lemurs" ,"Surrey was like based on a Ancient Rat.(This Narrator was also used later for Walking with Dinosaurs 3D.)
Can’t believe Disney can’t grow a pair and show children that the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows I would of loved to of seen the dark details to this film
Hey man, thanks for the video, really great one, hope you make more content like this. I really love this movie and i don't care what people are saying about it, I just love it and the concept art that were made for this movie. If anybody wants to find these concept art, you can go on Pinterest.
Dinosaurs having lips is true for Saurischian dinosaurs like Sauropods like Brachiosaurus & non avian Theropods like T. Rex, avian Theropods like modern birds do have beaks on the other hand, but for Ornithischian dinosaurs like Iguanodon they have evidence for beaks, so that’s why it’s still weird to put lips on an Iguanodon in that sense.
Don't know why the crew and audiences were making such a fit over not wanting the dinosaurs to speak. I mean it's not like you can't have a mature story with talking dinosaurs. Those aren't mutually exclusive things.
Before I watch… I just wanna say… I don’t know if I will ever understand why people don’t like “Dinosaur”. I have loved that movie since I was a little girl…
Dinosaurs talking gives me brain damage. If I had the talent and resources, I would make a dinosaur epic so realistic and brutal it would give little brats nightmares. No music at all, just the sounds of nature in all its glory.
the worst part of this whole thing is that yeah, it could've been pulled off, it really could've. all the pieces were there, but disney just had to strip everything out. like i would've killed to have that river crossing scene in there that would've been amazing. it really really is a shame. i love this movie, but it was really just dealt a bad hand honestly... if only though.
Someone looking into the history of Dinosaur should probably also try to check up on the history of this film I found on DVD about a Styracosaurus that gets separated from his herd and has to rebuild one of his own… I think he also loses some dinosaurs he’s close to when a meteor strikes if I remember right… and the film features no dialogue. I forgot what the title was but I had it on DVD before I moved.
I think it should also be noted, the fact that one of the directors of Dinosaur, was also behind the clustf**k that was We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (Which had a whopping FOUR DIRECTORS making the movie). So I feel that this movie was a much more improvement that before, and the director learned from his mistakes a bit.
It's weird to think Disney had two chances to have their own dinosaur IP they could profit off of like crazy like what Universal does with Jurassic Park but somehow managed to fuck it up TWICE with Disney's Dinosaur and Pixar's THE GOOD Dinoasaur
Prehistoric planet definitely has showed that people still have an appetite for dino documentaries just as long as they are done right unlike Netflix dynasty issue
I love this movie anyway. It's relatively dark and gritty and has no singing. The soundtrack is phenomenal! It's monumentally better than the Walking with Dinosaurs movie, which I found an insult to watch.
At least it's nice you were able to actually scour up more details about the many alternate storylines. Sure it does feel like a missed opportunity, but at the same time you can't really expect everything to be an original creation. I feel too many people have put their expectations too high or sometimes I feel like they want to pander to the high-elite snobs who need to think everything needs perfection or everything needs to be original. At least this movie still takes itself seriously and does know when to be intense when it needed to, and at least this was more better executed compared with the Walking with Dinosaurs 2013 film.
geez it seems they just axed every interesting thing in the movie but the producers were so diehard on making it on par with a land before time sequel. (singing and little seriousness)
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies of all time and I’m so glad that Disney made it. But the one thing that I don’t get why did people make a big deal over the dinosaurs talking?
Maybe it was the popularity of JURASSIC PARK. The hyperrealistic dinosaurs from that film gave audiences an enormous expectation in terms of what to expect from dinosaurs in live-action films. "You loved the dinosaurs in JURASSIC PARK, right? Now imagine exoerieng what their lives had been like before their extinction."
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies that also inspired me to become a 3D animator, the only tragedy here is that all the good movies like this one have already been made, and I won't ever get to work on anything like it. Also Talking Dino's are infinitely better than the ones that don't speak, I am the opposite of the people in this video, I get discouraged when they don't talk!
Damn. As much as I have a soft spot for this movie, I'm not gonna lie, I would have adored to see Paul Verhoeven's version. I've actually come to dislike the decision to make the dinosaurs talk the more I re-watch Dinosaur.
@@lampad4549 Pretty sure that can also be accomplished with no dialogue. I'm well aware that decision wouldn't exactly been the best box office wise, but as an artistic experiment it would have been quite interesting.
@@SIMBA-tq2ch Oh god yes. I can't even begin to tell you what a colossal disappointment Dominion was. But within the JP fandom, I appear to hold the unpopular opinion here lol
when i was a small kid i really disliked the movie because of the talking dinosaurs and the human story. also the lemurs. they are in the wrong place and the wrong time. the visuals are great i give them that but these animals dont act like animals, they act like generic movie protagonists and antagonists and there is so many outdated and inaccurate details in this movie that i still believe, this is a bad movie.
I loved the movie we got growing up and still enjoy it greatly, but I feel as if we were robbed of all the interesting depictions and influences from extant animals that Ricardo Delgado used in his concept art. (Black Crowned Crane Ornithomimus, Wild Dog Utahraptor, Anteater Nanshiungosaurus, etc.)
Thank you for making this video. I worked on the film for its entire production. I worked in Look Development: Dino skin, water, compositing, smoke, dust, and the meteor strike.
The carnotaur and the river crossing scene were inspired by an exhibit at the LA natural history museum.
As shown in the video, in the original story, the meteor happened at the end of picture and all the dinos died.
After the story changed to have the meteor at the end of the first act and the dinos living happily ever after in "the Great Valley", we asked ourselves, "Didn't Don Bluth just do this story?"
There was an underwater shot in the original introduction that I worked on that was scrapped because of an IDENTICAL shot in "The Land Before Time".
The animation program that was to become "Maya" was developed for Dinosaur.
After production and "Wildlife" being cancelled, the 3 to 4 hundred artists who worked on the project were fired.
Again, thanks for putting together this video. It is a melancholy memory for me.
No matter how much a film is crtiticised it always has its fans that felt a big resonance with this film that was a highlight in their life. and i loved this film as much as i did in grade school, still my favorite dino movie ever, i still think the cgi is unmatched. It still looks beautiful today. I even wanted to direct a parody replica for a school recital, it didnt happen due to school not taking me seriously lol but i was so passionate about making movies series and animations because of that movie! I think The imaging aged well , its so believable , the merging of the background and the cgi! And i love the final story ! Your work is appreciated and didnt go to waste in my book!
0.0 400!? muthafucka! Disney sucks all the way to XX century!!!
This movie was something I watched a lot in my childhood so thank you for your part in it.
Hey, if it helps the melancholy somewhat Dinosaur was my favorite movie as a kid, and I still have a plush of Aladar somewhere.
@@michaelmillefanti6319 I still have the happy meal Aladar toy lol
18:26 - "in jurassic park, you wouldn't expect a dinosaur to talk"
"ALAN"
Clearly the best scene in Jurassic Park 3.
@@Jurassic1993Park that scene looked so goofy it should get a bunch of memes on it
@@The_Blue_Otaku It sort of has in the JP fandom lol
@@Jurassic1993Park Oh lol i didn't know
There's a reason people make fun of that scene. And at least it was a dream.
Really depresses me to know that Walon Green's script with Tippett's and Verhoeven's vision for Dinosaurs will never see the light of day.
The one with Noah and his grandparents
Considering that Disney has remade their animated films into live action remakes, they might revisit the script and make another adaptation of Dinosaur (2000).
@@Manny535 I would overrun with joy if that were to happen. Dinosaur, as well as Atlantis the Lost Empire.
Never say never
@@Manny535 meh. They'd probably ruin it.
Kinda upsets me how the wider public view dinosaurs as a topic for childrens entertainment, and all dinosaur movies, no matter how realistic or beautiful, have to be dumbed down for kids with talking dinosaur characters and side characters. That's the problem I have with disney and larger studios, they don't care about the passion people put into the project, if it isn't marketable or makes a lot of money it's worthless and either needs to be changed to check the boxes, or be scrapped all together. Like, im all for more fictional narratives with less realistic dinosaurs but like a slightly realistic silent film would've been so much better than what we got, depicting the lives of actual animals instead of simple happy going lizards that were aimed for kids
I love this movie as is, but yes it is a shame we didn’t get what could’ve been.
But I say it’s a lot less acceptable for the Walking With Dinosaurs movie from 2013. At the very least the Disney movie took itself seriously and wasn’t dumbed down to trash like that one was.
And yeah, it’s true it seems the general public only thinks two extremes for dinosaurs: make them talk with dumbed down dialogue for kids, or make them super violent monsters for action or horror….
I mean if you make it smart storytelling and dialogue like Dinosaur or Land Before Time its gonna be worth it
hard disagree. i would have not watched the silent one but i love this one
Dinosaur was actually one of my favorite movies and I actually do like looking back at it and remembering how I used to believe that everything was animated and that they really did make the scenery so realistic until when I realized that the scenery was real while the dinosaurs were animated. Hearing all of this about the movie and how originally the movie was gonna be stop motion really did surprise me. Imagine if someday someone looks back at these concepts, scripts, and storylines and decides to actually make the Dinosaur movie using one of those original stories
Bruton being his long lost brother actually makes it much more interesting. What a missed opportunity.
That would have been a awesome twist and make his sacrifice even more heart breaking
Eh. Not everyone needs to be related to everyone. It just makes the story world so much smaller.
I don't care what anyone says, I love this movie growing up and the soundtracks were amazing.
It was the first movie I saw in the theater. I was four.
Sounds someone is a fanboy.
@@lampad4549 how is he a fanboy if he said he likes it? By your bullshit logic, if I said I still liked the movie even if anyone else didn't, I'd be a fanboy. Grow up and learn things
@@lampad4549 stop it gets some help
Same
They should really make a graphic
novel adaptation of Phil Tippett &
Paul Verhoeven's *"DINOSAURS",*
based on Walon Green's screenplay.
You are playing my song! That’ll be sensational.
They should also make a movie adaptation of The Enormous Egg by Oliver Butterworth.
Even though earlier versions May not ever see the light of Day, the movie that we got was a beautiful, incredible and amazing piece of cinematic art, close to a masterpiece, and a beloved movie that would be forever remember as one of the BEST dinosaur movies of all time, sharing it's place with Jurassic Park
I've had the "Making of" book on my shelf for as long as I can remember, and I have to say, it's odd seeing all this beautiful art and progress work juxtaposed with a hundred pages of people saying "we had NO idea what we were doing with this."
I'm actually really happy Disney remembers this movie when Aladar and his lemur family made a cameo at the end of "Once Upon a Studio".
I was really happy about that too. They even had to recreate their models from scratch to be able to use them with modern tools. You can also spot Aladar in the background when the princesses are singing together.
I actually wish we could have gotten a little more though, like Zini in the bathroom scene or Suri alongside Antonio Madrigal.
I honestly don’t blame the crew who worked on the movie and didn’t want the dinosaurs to talk nor have a lighter tone, cuz they didn’t want to do that. They didn’t want to make a kiddie dinosaur movie, they wanted to show the dark and mature elements of dinosaurs
Thwarted by executives that want to play it safe.
it's rather sad how much this mirrors the production of the WWD movie i guess if we want a realistic dinosaur movie it's gonna have to be made outside of holly wood because they just don't get it.
I’d argue Dinosaur 2000 tried to maintain a middle ground by the final product (for the most part), whereas WWD just shat the bed entirely.
I don't think we'll ever get a Dinosaur movie in the style of a silent documentary which is a shame. It's already been proven there's an audience that kind of film. I could do nothing but suffer in silence as he mentioned how audiences got all excited with the first trailer but got turned down the second they knew the dinosaurs would talk. And the thing is, I love the concept of a movie with talking dinosaurs, but only if it was planned to be that way. I didn't mind the dialogue in the WWD movie until I found out it was meant to have no dialogue at all until some dumb executive thought that they wouldn't be relatable if the dinos didn't talk
I love Dinosaur. It's one of my favorite Disney movies. But the missed potential of a dino-doc like film with that animation quality gives me mixed feelings.
There are a few “sound effects only” edits of Dinosaur scenes. All we need now is for someone to sync the music, and we can get a glimpse of how it could’ve looked as a no-dialogue final product.
@deldante dialogue-free storytelling has been proven to be successful in the past; just look at many of the Pixar shorts, or again, the Prologue & Desert Crossing scenes from Dinosaur.
I can definitely see the appeal: ppl have seen talking animals done to death, and "dino nature documentaries" (esp those of quality) are few & far btwn, so any opportunity to see one would be highly welcome.
Besides, do you think everyone enjoyed hearing "mr love monkey" thru out the film??
@deldante the adults cant enjoy the amazing visuals if the characters are making them exhausted just by existing
I’ve been thinking of both this film and the WWD film and I can say without a doubt the Disney film is so much better in that it takes itself seriously and isn’t dumbed down in dialogue like WWD was, which really sucks because WWD looked great visually, but it ended up becoming a worse “remake” (of sorts) of Dinosaur….
I have no idea why to this day big budget movie studios still believe people wouldn't get behind a docu-style dinosaur movie with no talking animals, and trust me I can go on all day about this stupid aspect. But I guess the best we got to this day is Prehistoric Planet (which btw GOOD LORD THEY BETTER NOT MAKE THAT A MOVIE! 😤)
Not bad of the video of Dinosaur 2000, one of my favorite dinosaur movies and Disney movies of all time and a huge part of my childhood.
That was great of you adding great points and explanation of the Behind the Scenes and the project of Dinosaur 2000.
Overall, not bad but good video.
Nice to see all this in one place! I had to search all over the internet for most of this after I found Will Stout's blog several years ago.
Brian Franczak will be greatly missed. He was my favorite paleoartist
“Why did they make a big deal out of talking dinosaurs?”
Because the filmmakers didn’t want them to talk. That’s it. Movies and shows without dialogue exists and most are pretty damn good.
The topic of dinosaurs aren’t exclusively for kids, and people/media/companies need to stop thinking that it is.
I’ll end this by saying: I grew up with this movie and I still love it. I’ve played the ps2 game and I love it. But the fact remains that what could and should have been was invalidated and changed, against the filmmakers will, is kind of upsetting
Disney needs more dinosaur movies who's with me
Dinosaur Completely redeems that lion king remake they made. Dinosaur was just a prequel to that movie.
@@christianali5431 wat
I’m with you partner and I pretty much agree with you that Disney should do more dinosaur movies, television series and other media but they’ll do them soon.
We just need more movies with dinosaurs in general
@@christianali5431 some say it’s a prequel to The Lost World
Thanks for making this. Dinosaur is my favorite Disney film but I never actually bothered to look into the making of it. This was very insightful.
I genuinely believe the project would've greatly benefited from a, for a lack of a better term, "Ghibli" approach to it's story: Mundane is beautiful. Trying to force the project into these pre-existing formats and have love interests, comedy reliefs and action scenes.. just made everything feel that bit more artificial and redacted from the atmosphere surrounding the actual animals, the dinosaurs.
The mystery & majesty is the biggest allure in knowing dinosaurs were once real, and art should appreciate that, instead of trying to shoehorn it into something we have conventionalized and normalized. I don't by any means dislike the final product, but it's a pale shadow of the immense potential they had on their hands. Disagreements over the dinosaurs talking vs. not talking seems to me like a culmination of these clashing perspectives.
At around 8:00 when talking about NOT using the trex as the main villain, I’m glad they used the Carnotaurus. Rexy would’ve definitely be overused had they went that route
And I fell in love with the devil horned Carnotaurus that they brought us. He was a big, mean, scary bully. It like the makes wanted to make sure that Rexy was out of our minds when watching this movie
This was a great mini documentary. You should do more documentaries like this on other trouble production films.
I agree.
So basically, they took a film that was meant to be experimental and for adults, turned it into another conventional kids film, and then blamed its unremarkable outcome on being too adult-oriented? The absolute nerve.
Tibbet should not have gone to Disney. Instead, he should have chosen or optioned other animation studios.
We know Disney will never ever accept this kind of concept and idea.
Tibbet should try reconsidering his plot and concept. It's an artistic masterpiece and the story, the plot, the characters and the transition in the ending are undoubtedly creative and compelling!
Honestly, Dinosaur 2000 was one of my favorite, childhood movies. But Dinosaurs by Phil Tibbet is now my current, compelled, dinosaur film, that I will pay for to watch and see how it executes well.
Please, Tibbet.. reconsider your conceptual masterpiece and make that stop motion film! I want to watch it. Even though I'm the first and, currently, the only movie fan, who wants to watch your film, I'm certain and sure.. that everyone else, who had discovered your concept for this film, are interested and intrigued too.
I hope you will still make this film in the future. It's not too late.
We NEED and WANT a dinosaur film that is not kid-friendly. I'm sorry for the kids, okay? But it's time for the dinosaurs to entertain the matured ones, who perceive great, artistic masterpiece. Fortunately, I'm one of them.
I like Disney's Dinosaur since I was toddler and younger ages in 2000s. Born on September 23rd, 1997.
I wish Disney would revisit Dinosaur these days or in the future for a sequel or remake. In fact there’s a lot of Disney films like the Black Cauldron that I wish got remakes in this age of sequels and reboots. These films never did quite well and deserve a second chance to give people something different.
However it doesn’t seem like Disney will ever do another dinosaur themed film ever again. With the revival of the Jurassic Park franchise and the failure of the good dinosaur, a dinosaur film by them isn’t guaranteed to be the success they would want it to be.
I just realised that we really only have 2 dinosaur films from the biggest company on earth. That’s just mind boggling to me.
16:33 This is so funny to me, because even as a kid, I thought the first 6 minutes of the movie were the best part, and everything went downhill the second the lemurs were introduced. The Carnosaurus chase sequence on its own thrilled me and had me on the edge of my seat, wondering if the little dinosaur contained within the egg would survive to adulthood if its existence was under such threat before it was even born.
Disney really underestimated how many kids LOVE nature documentaries, BECAUSE of all their drama and violence, not despite it. Survival horror as a genre is super compelling, and the prehistoric world as re-imagined and reconstructed by humans minds is the best setting I can think of for such a film. What a shame that the only animation studios large enough to undertake a mature story just wanted to dumb it down "for kids." :/
Kids can feel it when adults condescend to them, and movie plot lines are no different. I certainly noticed. Bambi and Fantasia were among my most rewatched movies in elementary school; I would have adored a no-dialogue animated movie about Dinosaurs in a similar vein as presented in the trailer. Hell, I'd enjoy that now too, lol.
The first revision with the Styracosaurus sounds AWESOME. I can't believe that got pushed down in favor of a more generic, kid-friendly approach.
Seriously nothing about the movie we got was 100% child friendly it still was pretty serious, mature and dramatic.
You want generic and kid friendly bullshit there's the 2013 Walking with Dinosaurs with its poop jokes and non stop voice over.
@@kennethsatria6607 Disney's Dinosaur was very much intended for the family-friendly audience, with some elements of cheeky humor and a rather generic "don't give up" plotline. And while Kron and the Carnotaurs did give the film a touch of dark drama, there were lots of other segments that felt overly bubbly, and I personally don't think it mixed well.
2013 Walking with Dinosaurs is just worse in every way, no argument. But comparisons aside, Dinosaur had a lot of potential it didn't tap on.
Glad I found this video, I’ve been seeing a lot of videos reacting or analyzing this movie recently and I’m happy that you showed the lengthy development of this movie. I always found this movie’s production to be Fascinating and just how much it changed from a stop motion film to cgi animated film. I genuinely had no idea that two people died during the filming of the live action segments of the film, was not expecting that part at all lol.
Absolutely great work! 👍
I loved this movie as a kid. I watched it over and over until my parents were too tired of the same movie. Seeing it today brings me lots of good memories and nostalgia. And as you’ve pointed out: the visual are astonishing, but taking emotions aside, the story is not the greatest. I would’ve loved to see the version in which there is no dinosaur dialogue at all… Great video mate!
Yeah it exists, its called walking with dinosaurs.
Yeah the story is not the greatest but that's hardly criticism as most stories aren't the greatest.
It seems like both Disney’s Dinosaur and the more recent Walking With Dinosaurs film had the same thing going on behind the scenes.
Both were films that were meant to be visually told stories, with no voices whatsoever, and with the use some of the most amazing effects ever put to film, but then some creatively bankrupt studio executive came in and said “No, you need to make them talk and/or sing because it makes us money”, thus taking what was being made and watering it down in some way with voices and dialogue.
I gotta say, though, I can forgive the Disney film, not because it’s something I have fond memories of, but at the very least the voices and dialogue were delivered with sincerity and it took itself seriously, and any semblance of jokes, while they weren’t the best, were nothing cringeworthy either.
That and the voices were all unique and fun to listen to.
Can’t say the same for WWD, which arguably put a lot more effort in using the knowledge known at the time (since the knowledge we had back in 2013 was a far cry from what we had back in 2000), but because of those previously mentioned studioexecusaurus boomerensis doing what they do best, we ended up getting a film with super annoying voices and dialogue that was the complete opposite: Absolutely watered down garbage dialogue with some of the stupidest most below basic jokes, all of which just looks down on its target audience like they’re society’s biggest idiots.
It’s really a shame that we had this whole process going on *TWICE* and it only got worse the second time….
Honestly, we really do deserve better with dinosaurs in movies like this (and in general).
I won’t lie I would like to see Phil Tippet make his dinosaur movie, without having creatively bankrupt money-eaters standing over him, or anyone who wants to try it.
Jesus this was amazing, great work dude
Disney really should come out with part 2. One of the most underrated Disney films of all time
I agree I would love to see a sequel to this movie. In my opinion I'm upset the trex wasn't the antagonist of the film because trex is my favorite dinosaur. I like Carntaurus but trex to me would have been a better antagonist, also Carntaurus was to big. They only grow up to 12 feet tall if they wanted to use a dino that was big that wasn't trex they should have used giganotosaurus in my opinion, because they can get to 18 to 20 feet tall. I would also love to see a dinosaur film where the trex is the protagonist or a twist hero, because I'd love to see the whole blood thirsty monster stereotype flipped on it's head while still showing trex was a hunter that's not to be messed with.
@@ashtonsherrod7824 I wouldn’t mind a film with T-Rex as the protagonist, for a change.
@@ashtonsherrod7824 I think the reason why Disney didn’t use Trex as the Main Antagonist of the Film was because they didn’t want to make it too much like Sharptooth from “The Land Before Time” from 1988 since “Dinosaur” was already feeling too much like from the Movie & didn’t want to use have a Trex in it to make it similar to Sharptooth by stealing the same Dinosaur to put in it & wanted to use a different Dinosaur of a Carnotaurus which were 2 of them as the Main Antagonists just to make the Movie different than “The Land Before Time”. It’s my own Theory to why I believe is the real reason why Trexs was not in “Dinosaur” in my honest opinion.
Dinosaur was a box office hit when it was released.
Good video mate, I had forgotten all about the movie. Good choice of music too.
well at least it wasn't as big of a disappointment as walking with Dinosaur's 3D
yep
I'm 100% positive if they weren't talking, then an equally big portion of the audience would have been horrified to realize Disney wants them to look at a silent movie for 2 hours. Be happy no singing occurred, alright?
The Lion King, now that's a true stupid story... directly photo realizing a cartoon, H-WHYY???
The movie would be better if they just took it seriously and played it straight as a survival tale. It was basically another land before time only with less compelling characters
This was not the thing to watch if you're already feeling a little down....This really kicks you in the spirit!
This movie is ride of nostalgia and good feelings when I watch it. It’s just as good and holds up pretty well 20 plus years later. I love Disney’s Dinosaur like it’s a family member to me.
Love seeing more people making videos on Dinosaurs. Thank you
Happy 21st Anniversary of Disney's Dinosaur 2021.
It could've been something truly incredible, but as it stands, I don't think any other film really has that feeling that Dinosaurs inspires in me.
It was art at several stages of its production, but still, we should be thankful for every beautiful frame that did survive.
The story with the 2 Brothers did sound better than the final product. Shame. The final product ended up being too similar imo to Land Before Time but with less emotion and characterization.
both movies are better than the newer jurassic world movie
This was really well done, thank you for this
god this concept art is something else. i've got to check out the book to see if it's got all this art
I enjoyed this movie alot as a kid. It was easy to watch and had fun characters to root for. The carnotaurus was badass tho
This is the most underrated Dino film dude it was so good the cgi still holds up well today and the story was also great
While I don’t mind the final product, had the film dealt with dialogue like the Proof of Concept Test I think that would’ve been a nice medium
This is one of my favorite movie of all time. I loved to see dinosaurs talking as a kid. It was just PERFECT. I never loved stupid princess movies this much.
It's Nice that the Main Character was a Styracosaurus (I think later this would be Eema).I think Surrey was the first Plan of the "Ancient Lemurs" ,"Surrey was like based on a Ancient Rat.(This Narrator was also used later for Walking with Dinosaurs 3D.)
The original sounds like a full version of the ‘Rite of Spring’ segment of Disney’s Fantasia.
Can’t believe Disney can’t grow a pair and show children that the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows I would of loved to of seen the dark details to this film
That’s old Disney they had to scare kids back then
I love that movie and its music.Childhood movie
If Phil Tippett & Paul Verhoeven's *"DINOSAURS"* was made, who do
you think would be the composer?
Basil Poledouris or Jerry Goldsmith?
Hey man, thanks for the video, really great one, hope you make more content like this. I really love this movie and i don't care what people are saying about it, I just love it and the concept art that were made for this movie. If anybody wants to find these concept art, you can go on Pinterest.
i love how they hated the dino with lips idea but is now thought as truth
Dinosaurs having lips is true for Saurischian dinosaurs like Sauropods like Brachiosaurus & non avian Theropods like T. Rex, avian Theropods like modern birds do have beaks on the other hand, but for Ornithischian dinosaurs like Iguanodon they have evidence for beaks, so that’s why it’s still weird to put lips on an Iguanodon in that sense.
Don't know why the crew and audiences were making such a fit over not wanting the dinosaurs to speak. I mean it's not like you can't have a mature story with talking dinosaurs. Those aren't mutually exclusive things.
Before I watch… I just wanna say… I don’t know if I will ever understand why people don’t like “Dinosaur”. I have loved that movie since I was a little girl…
Awesome video! Keep up the good work!
The movie definitely would have been better if the dinos didn’t talk, didn’t scrap some scenes and stick with one of the old plots
Another example of how petty Katzenberg can be.
Nice!
Where did you get that animation test in 12:16?
taken from ruclips.net/video/4nwwu57NsLo/видео.html
Dinosaurs talking gives me brain damage. If I had the talent and resources, I would make a dinosaur epic so realistic and brutal it would give little brats nightmares. No music at all, just the sounds of nature in all its glory.
the worst part of this whole thing is that yeah, it could've been pulled off, it really could've. all the pieces were there, but disney just had to strip everything out. like i would've killed to have that river crossing scene in there that would've been amazing. it really really is a shame. i love this movie, but it was really just dealt a bad hand honestly... if only though.
Someone looking into the history of Dinosaur should probably also try to check up on the history of this film I found on DVD about a Styracosaurus that gets separated from his herd and has to rebuild one of his own… I think he also loses some dinosaurs he’s close to when a meteor strikes if I remember right… and the film features no dialogue. I forgot what the title was but I had it on DVD before I moved.
I think it should also be noted, the fact that one of the directors of Dinosaur, was also behind the clustf**k that was We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (Which had a whopping FOUR DIRECTORS making the movie). So I feel that this movie was a much more improvement that before, and the director learned from his mistakes a bit.
It's weird to think Disney had two chances to have their own dinosaur IP they could profit off of like crazy like what Universal does with Jurassic Park but somehow managed to fuck it up TWICE with Disney's Dinosaur and Pixar's THE GOOD Dinoasaur
Prehistoric planet definitely has showed that people still have an appetite for dino documentaries just as long as they are done right unlike Netflix dynasty issue
Like I can see on Wikipedia, the movie was a success. It made more than the budget
I loved Dinosaur as a kid. But now I know it could have been so much better
There were more animals living with dinosaurs than people want to accept
I want to go to every other time line to see how things in this movie could have been
I love this movie anyway. It's relatively dark and gritty and has no singing. The soundtrack is phenomenal! It's monumentally better than the Walking with Dinosaurs movie, which I found an insult to watch.
At least it's nice you were able to actually scour up more details about the many alternate storylines. Sure it does feel like a missed opportunity, but at the same time you can't really expect everything to be an original creation. I feel too many people have put their expectations too high or sometimes I feel like they want to pander to the high-elite snobs who need to think everything needs perfection or everything needs to be original. At least this movie still takes itself seriously and does know when to be intense when it needed to, and at least this was more better executed compared with the Walking with Dinosaurs 2013 film.
exactly
Sorry for the pun, but I guess you could say that the potential went extinct
Did not expect that floral shoppe track in the beginning
geez it seems they just axed every interesting thing in the movie but the producers were so diehard on making it on par with a land before time sequel. (singing and little seriousness)
At least there was no singing here xD
What can you say about the fight between Aladar and Kron?
Another great video. Pretty sad that disney forced the producers to make the dinosaurs talk.
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies of all time and I’m so glad that Disney made it. But the one thing that I don’t get why did people make a big deal over the dinosaurs talking?
Maybe it was the popularity of JURASSIC PARK. The hyperrealistic dinosaurs from that film gave audiences an enormous expectation in terms of what to expect from dinosaurs in live-action films.
"You loved the dinosaurs in JURASSIC PARK, right? Now imagine exoerieng what their lives had been like before their extinction."
No matter what you guys think of the movie it's still a thousand times better than the new jurassic world trilogy
It's pretty sad this movie never got a sequel.
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies that also inspired me to become a 3D animator, the only tragedy here is that all the good movies like this one have already been made, and I won't ever get to work on anything like it. Also Talking Dino's are infinitely better than the ones that don't speak, I am the opposite of the people in this video, I get discouraged when they don't talk!
These backplates are also shot in Florida, Australia, and Samoa.
I remember when PayPerView had 10 minute sneak previews.
Little did they know that was all we needed from Dinosaur 😉 😂😂😂
Amazing video!!!
7:34 That's never a good sign for any production, but especially in animation.
Great animation of the dinosaurs! Unfortunately, geologic reality completely torpedoed any "happy ending" to these characters.
I want a sequel
Where did you find those pictures of the storyboards from the Verhoeven version? The one at 3:35?
That first song that came up is from Diplodocus
Damn. As much as I have a soft spot for this movie, I'm not gonna lie, I would have adored to see Paul Verhoeven's version. I've actually come to dislike the decision to make the dinosaurs talk the more I re-watch Dinosaur.
That's silly, having them talk gives them character and emotions. Its like the land before time but cg.
@@lampad4549 Pretty sure that can also be accomplished with no dialogue. I'm well aware that decision wouldn't exactly been the best box office wise, but as an artistic experiment it would have been quite interesting.
no matter what you think of the movie it's still way better than the new jurassic world movie
@@SIMBA-tq2ch Oh god yes. I can't even begin to tell you what a colossal disappointment Dominion was. But within the JP fandom, I appear to hold the unpopular opinion here lol
So much amazing lore to a somewhat forgotten film
still love the movie as it is, it's what awakened my love for dinosaures as a kid XD. still didn't lost hope to see a sequel. XD
If I ever have a few free years and a blender account I’m going to make a movie like what this movie should have been
when i was a small kid i really disliked the movie because of the talking dinosaurs and the human story. also the lemurs. they are in the wrong place and the wrong time. the visuals are great i give them that but these animals dont act like animals, they act like generic movie protagonists and antagonists and there is so many outdated and inaccurate details in this movie that i still believe, this is a bad movie.
I loved the movie we got growing up and still enjoy it greatly, but I feel as if we were robbed of all the interesting depictions and influences from extant animals that Ricardo Delgado used in his concept art. (Black Crowned Crane Ornithomimus, Wild Dog Utahraptor, Anteater Nanshiungosaurus, etc.)
11:32 Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates in a nutshell!