Found a copy of The Myth of Sisyphus at Goodwill that pretty much saved my life, glad you made this video. I always recommend it to friends who are going through hard times.
Thank you so much for this video! I’m new to philosophy and was interested in camus, but i found it very hard to read. So i came here to have a better understanding, and it helped me a lot!
excellent work as always. would really like to see a thorough examination of The Rebel by Camus. I found it really hard to read and i would really like to see some commentary on it. Keep up the good work!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, it's starting to create a psychological distress for me - Nietscheans, existentialists or Camus haven't given life a superior value over death. It's all about if we CAN live despite our knowledge. How can you affirm life if death doesn't matter? I remember Nietzsches thought from his notebook "You have two options - quick death or long love" (translated from German). Is there more to this? How can I fully affirm life if it's all about a groundless choice between two options?
Yes, you are indeed wrong. Don't try to reduce Nietzsche' or Camus' thought to such a simple post-card line, but actually read the rest of their works, which they took the time to think out and write, and you'll likely find yourself in a better perspective
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks for the quick answer! Of course, I simplified this. I understand their life affirmations, yet I see them as POSSIBILITIES, not as giving life a superior value per se. Camus' answer to free chosen death is, in my opinion, not really satisfactory, given the realization and freedom of an absurd man. As far as I understand, he rejects suicide on the basis that he rejects accepting life's meaninglessness from a position alienated to the subject ("objective"). He answers the question if it's NECESSARY to respond to an absurd life with suicide, not that life is MORE valuable than death. It's stupid to denounce life while continuing to exist, yet what if one chooses not to, can we oppose such decision? I lack a solid refusal of death in order to create a Nietzschean tension - let's do it because tomorrow I might be dead and I refuse death. I read Nietzsche's Thus spoke Zarathustra, Ecce homo and now reading "Über die Unschuld des Werdens", from Camus I've read "Myth of Sisyphus" and "Man in Revolt" a few years ago. I'm not really trying to argue, I'm rather looking for help. Thanks in advance of you could clarify or recommend something!
@@patk8530 You'll want to reread. And maybe lower your expectations/demands of what the authors are supposed to provide you a bit. Frankly, I have no idea how you can closely read either author and think they don't view life as having value. I may not be what you consider "value per se" to be, but that's less of a problem with them and more one for you
@@GregoryBSadler I know they see life as valuable, I love their uncompromising life affirmations. I just think in case of life and death one can dig one step deeper and I wonder why or if they didn't do so. I see HOW they affirmed life but no WHY. Maybe I can explain with Epicurus - I get his pragmatic "Death doesn't concern me, when I die, then I'll be dead", but if it wasn't Epicurus, I can imagine a hardcore melancholic saying this too. It is my issue, I'm voicing my opinion, but in a philosophical context, in the context of their philosophies. I'm not a solipsist, so by discussions I'm trying to go further. I value your RUclips channel (like who else reads Shestov?) so I decided to comment with the hope of new perspectives.
Hi, this was very helpful! But I'm a bit confused about what it concretely means to "revolt" against the absurd, or to "say no" to it if you will. Does it mean that you refuse to let it take over you/tear you apart, or more that you try to live as if life wasn't actually absurd?
If the absurd takes you over - at least in some of its forms - on some level you're choosing that. And if life is absurd trying to pretend its not isn't going to be particularly effective
Basically there are 'Martyrs' ones who die for their cause, and then there are people who take their own life when they feel that there is no other possibility to moving on except living a lie.
2019 Sir, you are awesome. May we know what University you graduate from & what course you took & what school are you employed in right now? Hope to attend your lectures. Good day! THANK YOU.
Found a copy of The Myth of Sisyphus at Goodwill that pretty much saved my life, glad you made this video. I always recommend it to friends who are going through hard times.
It was one of the first actual philosophy books I read - my uncle Aime had it, and let me take his copy
Thank you so much for this video! I’m new to philosophy and was interested in camus, but i found it very hard to read. So i came here to have a better understanding, and it helped me a lot!
I've got a whole set on this work
excellent work as always. would really like to see a thorough examination of The Rebel by Camus. I found it really hard to read and i would really like to see some commentary on it. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Thank you prof for the elaboration. Much appreciated.
You’re very welcome!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, it's starting to create a psychological distress for me - Nietscheans, existentialists or Camus haven't given life a superior value over death. It's all about if we CAN live despite our knowledge. How can you affirm life if death doesn't matter? I remember Nietzsches thought from his notebook "You have two options - quick death or long love" (translated from German). Is there more to this? How can I fully affirm life if it's all about a groundless choice between two options?
Yes, you are indeed wrong. Don't try to reduce Nietzsche' or Camus' thought to such a simple post-card line, but actually read the rest of their works, which they took the time to think out and write, and you'll likely find yourself in a better perspective
@@GregoryBSadler Thanks for the quick answer! Of course, I simplified this. I understand their life affirmations, yet I see them as POSSIBILITIES, not as giving life a superior value per se. Camus' answer to free chosen death is, in my opinion, not really satisfactory, given the realization and freedom of an absurd man. As far as I understand, he rejects suicide on the basis that he rejects accepting life's meaninglessness from a position alienated to the subject ("objective"). He answers the question if it's NECESSARY to respond to an absurd life with suicide, not that life is MORE valuable than death. It's stupid to denounce life while continuing to exist, yet what if one chooses not to, can we oppose such decision? I lack a solid refusal of death in order to create a Nietzschean tension - let's do it because tomorrow I might be dead and I refuse death.
I read Nietzsche's Thus spoke Zarathustra, Ecce homo and now reading "Über die Unschuld des Werdens", from Camus I've read "Myth of Sisyphus" and "Man in Revolt" a few years ago.
I'm not really trying to argue, I'm rather looking for help. Thanks in advance of you could clarify or recommend something!
@@patk8530 You'll want to reread. And maybe lower your expectations/demands of what the authors are supposed to provide you a bit.
Frankly, I have no idea how you can closely read either author and think they don't view life as having value. I may not be what you consider "value per se" to be, but that's less of a problem with them and more one for you
@@GregoryBSadler I know they see life as valuable, I love their uncompromising life affirmations. I just think in case of life and death one can dig one step deeper and I wonder why or if they didn't do so. I see HOW they affirmed life but no WHY. Maybe I can explain with Epicurus - I get his pragmatic "Death doesn't concern me, when I die, then I'll be dead", but if it wasn't Epicurus, I can imagine a hardcore melancholic saying this too.
It is my issue, I'm voicing my opinion, but in a philosophical context, in the context of their philosophies. I'm not a solipsist, so by discussions I'm trying to go further. I value your RUclips channel (like who else reads Shestov?) so I decided to comment with the hope of new perspectives.
Hi, this was very helpful! But I'm a bit confused about what it concretely means to "revolt" against the absurd, or to "say no" to it if you will. Does it mean that you refuse to let it take over you/tear you apart, or more that you try to live as if life wasn't actually absurd?
If the absurd takes you over - at least in some of its forms - on some level you're choosing that. And if life is absurd trying to pretend its not isn't going to be particularly effective
Basically there are 'Martyrs' ones who die for their cause, and then there are people who take their own life when they feel that there is no other possibility to moving on except living a lie.
2019
Sir, you are awesome.
May we know what University you graduate from & what course you took & what school are you employed in right now?
Hope to attend your lectures.
Good day! THANK YOU.
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