I almost literally can not believe that ending. I thought it was over for sure after the comeback and then the second comeback. That was just insane plays by the winner and perfect for showing why you don't give up until your Commander is at 0 hitpoints.
@@hurrdurr7119 happy to spread the joy, specially on a Monday, also, you got to drop a Dr Brackman impression every now and again. Forged alliance Forever!
@@TheMrVallex sort of doubt it - he scouted the commander with a t3 scout a while back I think. Probably just didn't think he could take him out with the czars, until he was forced to use them or die.
from the wiki Personal Cloaking Generator: "This upgrade renders the unit invisible to all units except those with Omni capability at an energy drain of 3000. Sonar will detect the ACU if it travels underwater."
How many replays have we seen Pros just bail out when thinks get hard? Way to many and we were just shown anything is possible. Amazing job and demo. More More
Hm, quite a bit of misplay here. First of all: Erica seems to decide by her own not to bother about her side of the map and instead go into to other direction. While double pushing Kavat might have been a viable strategy this would have required both ACUs to press, but Erica kept her ACU just for keeping middle basically just taking mass that would have one to her Teammate else) Then GingerbreadMan fails to punish this. Bascially Ericas lack on her own side would have allowed GingerbreadMan to quickle take control of the bottom triangle and maybe even raiding Erica’s base very effectively, gaining eco, doing damage and basically locking Team 1 out of the bottom triangle. And instead then he get’s pushed back by Erica. Then Team 1 had two large armies in front of GingerbreadMans base. I’m pretty sure they could have done a push together before GingerbreadMan could have finishes his GC. Next of course Erica going Mavor is a big misplay. You can see that Mavor just eats up some maybe 20K mass she had in her bank. Better choice would have been Fatboy, as they are quite a good counter against Snipers and Harbingers. Also Erica dying to the GC is really dumb. Then Raider goes for RAS SCUs, which is a completely nonsensical move. Basically a RAS SCU needs about 10 minutes to pay off. So the first SCU that come out at around minute 25 will start at about minute 35. Considering the game takes about 40 minutes this means that Raider most of the time had *less* eco than what he’d have had if he hadn’t build SCUs. People see Yudi’s meme plays where he gains ridiculous eco by exclusively spamming RAS SCUs, but what they forget is that most of these SCUs never pay of. Then they are confused how Yudi can loose with such a high mass lead ... But building RAS SCUs for eco is only viable if you think the game will take a long time.
Boy, GingerbreadMan put on one hell of a showing, this is the first replay I've seen in a long time that made me stop what I was doing and *only* watch the replay.
It was sad to see, target priority was good, and the pullback to consolidate was spot on. Once it was just the GC they should have retired back to base!
Oh my goodness what an absolutely wack match. First it looks like GingerbreadMan is done for, then he claws it back, then he's done for again, and then he drops a freaking Czar on Raider! Also some absolute Gigachad moves from Erica, starting a Mavor in a 2v2 and then staring down a Colossus.
The Diffrence Between FAF Develop and FAF Beta is FAF Develop is for all the new Imporvemnts/Feature to the game where as FAF beta is for new Balance changes testing.
I can't believe how clutch this game was. I was rooting for Gingerbread Man the whole second half. But to see that clutch win was a massive surprise. I thought he was dead when he sent the colossus on a do or die attack honestly.
I always enjoy watching from the "big map" (when you zoom out, I don't know if it has some technical name) when there are tons of engineers reclaiming stuff, it's look like there are explosion everywhere.
so happy gingerbreadman won this one, after raider and erica stopped pushing and doing nothing instead for a while never actually cheered when someone won one of these before this one lol
It feels like Gingerbread man was feeling very passive and uncertain for large parts of that - He made the right call with the 1st Tsar going deep but was it just me or did it feel like it was under-committed? Had he dived deep, for eco or build power in the support commanders then the damage would have prevented the later snowball of Mega's that the triple GC push fell against
I wondered the sake thing for the first Czar. I'm not sure, but it looked like there were SAMS in the main base. Could have been why he skirted the edge when leaving that side.
he also wasted time with the first czar in the south west corner, going after T1 mex, where he could have used it to decimate the Army with the Mega+FB
Ericas passiv gameplay was so painfull to watch, she had the adwanted for like 20min and jsut stood there AND then gets killed beause of all units she sends here ACU into the GC. Bruh how is she 1600 ?
Hah, first! Gotta love it. I hope this match is as great as the last one! Edit: Stupid new youtube app comment system… I was not first, only second. Well, I am feeding the youtube algorithm (with gibberish) nevertheless.
GAAAAAH NO DISCOOOOOORD!!!!! GRAAAH GYLE YOU UTTER NOOOOOOB!!!! I summoned my inner Hun for this... quite exhausting. Was that abuse good enough? WOOOW; WHAT A GAME!!! XD
The Czar spent too much time raiding unimportant things like T1 engineers and mexxes. Using it to raid T3 mex and T3 power is worth it, but it could have been way closer if they'd been more focused on the high-value stuff.
I do wonder sometimes, if FAF players are too eager to swap into shiny experimental production. I haven't sandboxed it myself, but it feels like you can get a LOT of T3 (exact numbers at the end) for the price of direct fire T4s, and overkill applies more often so you're gifting less mass in T3 wrecks while attacking than with T4s. Obviously something like a fatty with its monstrous range or a Ythotha with its death weapon are another matter, because they provide a unique benefit like huge arty DPS or kamikaze destruction, but the regular direct fire T4s seem like another matter. What're the benefits to these big hulking T4s that I'm missing? For the cost of a monkeylord (20k mass/45kHP/4250dps) you can get 16 siege bots (20480M/~115kHP/~5k dps), or 21 (26880M/~155kHP/6-6.5k dps) for the cost of a GC (27.5k/2500dps + arms=??). Aeon equivalent is about 35 sniper bots (28kM/what HP lol/5k dps with 33k alpha) or 33 harbies (27720M/150kHP/10.5k dps) for a GC, and 3/4 of that for a spider. Megalith (37.5kM/110kHP/2500 dps) goes vs double the T3: 30 percies/bricks, 47 aeon/43 sera snipers (which still outrange), or 45 harbies.
less pathfinding issues, less micro management, more range, no drop in DPS when losing hitpoints. Mass is only dropped on death, not when individual units die. And you can build anywhere, not just in T3 factories. They can me hidden much easier than a 30+ unit army. The classic "one mega unit vs. swarm" case. If it was so simple as numbers (T3 vs. T4) then top players wouldnt build T4.
My understanding (nonplayer but watch a lot) is that loyalists are good at early T3 when they can be deployed much quicker due to build time / cost / movement speed, and also on large open maps where roving around fast is valuable. But when it's big armies and constrained avenues of attack, then bricks are better because they are just better as a sledgehammer in term of cost / damage / durability.
On the one hand, I really really wanted to watch the video, on the other hand the smile thumbnail send me straight to hell fire. Tough choice. No. 1 won.
UNRELATED but I have been trying to find a MOD I used years ago called something like micro\mini commander that made all units 1/2 or maybe 1/4 scale which makes small maps play bigger. but I cant find it anywhere!!!
After watching a couple of cast, I'm wondering why the player don't use the fatboy to produce unit? Doesn't it produce unit 3x faster than a t3 factory.
Man , i'm going to sleep after i rooted for team 1 all the damn game ... completely bamboozled ... The teams i rooted for in Gyle casts before , never won .. I don't know wtf .. Anyway , good night ya'll wherever you are :)
I almost literally can not believe that ending. I thought it was over for sure after the comeback and then the second comeback. That was just insane plays by the winner and perfect for showing why you don't give up until your Commander is at 0 hitpoints.
As a former Cybran enthusiast i can't help but let out a "hey!" each time Gyle makes fun of Cybrans, but he's kinda right i suppose.
Former?!
@@mikeg8564 haven't played in ages
@@hurrdurr7119 sorry to hear that, but cybran are family, and you never leave the family, oh yes, always family
@@mikeg8564 Haha thanks man, its nice to know some things last forever. Cheers for the wholesome giggle you just gave me!
@@hurrdurr7119 happy to spread the joy, specially on a Monday, also, you got to drop a Dr Brackman impression every now and again.
Forged alliance Forever!
I think the Czars have a very small omni radar beneath them, so once they hovered over the commander in the water, they could see him.
Yes, I believe it is the orange circle.
to me it looked like the teammate ghosted the replay to tell ginger where the acu was to look for it
@@TheMrVallex Nah, the Czars were clearly skirting around the edge of the SAM radius.
@@TheMrVallex sort of doubt it - he scouted the commander with a t3 scout a while back I think. Probably just didn't think he could take him out with the czars, until he was forced to use them or die.
from the wiki Personal Cloaking Generator: "This upgrade renders the unit invisible to all units except those with Omni capability at an energy drain of 3000. Sonar will detect the ACU if it travels underwater."
How many replays have we seen Pros just bail out when thinks get hard? Way to many and we were just shown anything is possible. Amazing job and demo. More More
Honestly, not how I thought this game would end. Fantastic game!
Most of this match made no sense to me. xD
This looks like the replay that got many reviews in the client.
GUYS, use replay review syste, and rate replays if you think that game was epic
Hm, quite a bit of misplay here. First of all: Erica seems to decide by her own not to bother about her side of the map and instead go into to other direction. While double pushing Kavat might have been a viable strategy this would have required both ACUs to press, but Erica kept her ACU just for keeping middle basically just taking mass that would have one to her Teammate else)
Then GingerbreadMan fails to punish this. Bascially Ericas lack on her own side would have allowed GingerbreadMan to quickle take control of the bottom triangle and maybe even raiding Erica’s base very effectively, gaining eco, doing damage and basically locking Team 1 out of the bottom triangle. And instead then he get’s pushed back by Erica.
Then Team 1 had two large armies in front of GingerbreadMans base. I’m pretty sure they could have done a push together before GingerbreadMan could have finishes his GC.
Next of course Erica going Mavor is a big misplay. You can see that Mavor just eats up some maybe 20K mass she had in her bank. Better choice would have been Fatboy, as they are quite a good counter against Snipers and Harbingers. Also Erica dying to the GC is really dumb.
Then Raider goes for RAS SCUs, which is a completely nonsensical move. Basically a RAS SCU needs about 10 minutes to pay off. So the first SCU that come out at around minute 25 will start at about minute 35. Considering the game takes about 40 minutes this means that Raider most of the time had *less* eco than what he’d have had if he hadn’t build SCUs.
People see Yudi’s meme plays where he gains ridiculous eco by exclusively spamming RAS SCUs, but what they forget is that most of these SCUs never pay of. Then they are confused how Yudi can loose with such a high mass lead ... But building RAS SCUs for eco is only viable if you think the game will take a long time.
Great summary! Exactly my thoughts
Hell yeah! I'm in need of some Gyle cast! it's a good relaxing end to the week!
31:10 hell yeah black forest. The real stuff though. Homemade!
Boy, GingerbreadMan put on one hell of a showing, this is the first replay I've seen in a long time that made me stop what I was doing and *only* watch the replay.
Just wonderful seeing Czars used to effect! So rare! ^^ Very nice replay and presentation, Gyle!
It's funny how you are suprised by Erica, as she's been on Gylecast before if my memory is correct
Ah Friday evening, a cold one and some chips + SupCom. Nice
Woot! Now this is the sort of sports broadcast I can get behind. Gyle you teadrinker you, you've made my day!
What on earth was Erika doing? Chasing down a GC with your com when you have a massive army.
It was sad to see, target priority was good, and the pullback to consolidate was spot on. Once it was just the GC they should have retired back to base!
Oh my goodness what an absolutely wack match. First it looks like GingerbreadMan is done for, then he claws it back, then he's done for again, and then he drops a freaking Czar on Raider! Also some absolute Gigachad moves from Erica, starting a Mavor in a 2v2 and then staring down a Colossus.
In terms of decision making and management gingerbread was 7 parallel universes ahead of other players
Amazing play by GingerbreadMan. Glad he was able to win considering it looked like his teammate Kavat intentionally threw the game early on.
What. A. Game.
My wife couldn't figure out why I aghast for a good 20 seconds.
The Diffrence Between FAF Develop and FAF Beta is FAF Develop is for all the new Imporvemnts/Feature to the game where as FAF beta is for new Balance changes testing.
Damnn one hell of a fight, and the irony of Gingerbreadman using doughnuts is the best.
Wow, this game was crazy! Thanks, Gyle!
OH MY GOD what!!!!! that ending was INSANE!
Great cast gyle. Didn't see that ending coming.
The last part is definitely a Supreme Commander Epic.
Yes, that's a map feature. Every pond has something different to say.
Another amazing game and an amazing turn around
Was searching for new video of Gylecast...BAM! Cought it 39 min after upload. HOOAH!
Wow! Been awhile since I've seen someone snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory that crazy.
I can't believe how clutch this game was. I was rooting for Gingerbread Man the whole second half. But to see that clutch win was a massive surprise. I thought he was dead when he sent the colossus on a do or die attack honestly.
What a fantastic game. Great commentating Gyle.
What a fantastic comeback! Also the could messages were a bit eerie, you missed a lot of them ;-)
I love watching these, and I don't even play the game, but it does make me want to play Dyson Sphere Program lol.
I always enjoy watching from the "big map" (when you zoom out, I don't know if it has some technical name) when there are tons of engineers reclaiming stuff, it's look like there are explosion everywhere.
The map overview is called the Strategic Zoom as I understand.
so happy gingerbreadman won this one, after raider and erica stopped pushing and doing nothing instead for a while
never actually cheered when someone won one of these before this one lol
It feels like Gingerbread man was feeling very passive and uncertain for large parts of that - He made the right call with the 1st Tsar going deep but was it just me or did it feel like it was under-committed?
Had he dived deep, for eco or build power in the support commanders then the damage would have prevented the later snowball of Mega's that the triple GC push fell against
I wondered the sake thing for the first Czar. I'm not sure, but it looked like there were SAMS in the main base. Could have been why he skirted the edge when leaving that side.
@@Stratobrick not initially, the Sam's came up because he didn't commit.
While he skirted up behind the base SACU's threw up about 10 sams
Yep deffo. Also if he had used the 3 GC's on base defense he could of kept his base.
he also wasted time with the first czar in the south west corner, going after T1 mex, where he could have used it to decimate the Army with the Mega+FB
Sir, you have cunningly forgotten the Discord link
Nice Team 1 throw! Idjits! They got too ballsy. That mavor. That commander push against a colossus... that Air-Suicide....
wonderful gameplay! love it! thx for commenting this game!
Its nice to see somene Ctrl-K a Czar onto an ACU :) This should be a book move.
Hahaha, what a great game, twists and turns everywhere!
20 minutes in it looked like this would wrap up quick but then I noticed the video wasn't even half over.
Ericas passiv gameplay was so painfull to watch, she had the adwanted for like 20min and jsut stood there AND then gets killed beause of all units she sends here ACU into the GC.
Bruh how is she 1600 ?
What a ridiculous ending! I thought it was over for Team 2 for sure...
I hate the emoji faces but then realize thats the point and have grown fond of chuckling in rage at them lol
Whoa, that finish. And the fact that it was the fallen Tzar that basically did the job.. o.0
We miss u buddy , more cast plz lol
Doesn't get much more epic than that.
Hah, first! Gotta love it. I hope this match is as great as the last one!
Edit: Stupid new youtube app comment system… I was not first, only second.
Well, I am feeding the youtube algorithm (with gibberish) nevertheless.
It's strange that Gingerbread didn't use his com's build capacity so late in the game.
Keep up the great work, Gylecast!
Top 5 of longest single czar duration?
Yeah team one eventually lost all power great job gingerbread person
Ya all can keep ur fancy lasers and stuff. Nothing like a hard 1tonne shell shot from UEF perfection
Awesome game, great commentator!!!
Incredible comeback, love it. What rts is all about. A lesser man would have suicided, but no; Gingerbreadman hunts with no base
This is why scouting is important. Team 2 had this game in the bag.
That ending was glorious
GAAAAAH NO DISCOOOOOORD!!!!!
GRAAAH GYLE YOU UTTER NOOOOOOB!!!!
I summoned my inner Hun for this... quite exhausting. Was that abuse good enough?
WOOOW; WHAT A GAME!!! XD
Absolute Chad win by GBM.
That's what I love about this game.
It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.
The Czar spent too much time raiding unimportant things like T1 engineers and mexxes. Using it to raid T3 mex and T3 power is worth it, but it could have been way closer if they'd been more focused on the high-value stuff.
that looked familiar, seen if from supreme derp i think
Now this is pod racing
I do wonder sometimes, if FAF players are too eager to swap into shiny experimental production. I haven't sandboxed it myself, but it feels like you can get a LOT of T3 (exact numbers at the end) for the price of direct fire T4s, and overkill applies more often so you're gifting less mass in T3 wrecks while attacking than with T4s. Obviously something like a fatty with its monstrous range or a Ythotha with its death weapon are another matter, because they provide a unique benefit like huge arty DPS or kamikaze destruction, but the regular direct fire T4s seem like another matter. What're the benefits to these big hulking T4s that I'm missing?
For the cost of a monkeylord (20k mass/45kHP/4250dps) you can get 16 siege bots (20480M/~115kHP/~5k dps), or 21 (26880M/~155kHP/6-6.5k dps) for the cost of a GC (27.5k/2500dps + arms=??). Aeon equivalent is about 35 sniper bots (28kM/what HP lol/5k dps with 33k alpha) or 33 harbies (27720M/150kHP/10.5k dps) for a GC, and 3/4 of that for a spider. Megalith (37.5kM/110kHP/2500 dps) goes vs double the T3: 30 percies/bricks, 47 aeon/43 sera snipers (which still outrange), or 45 harbies.
less pathfinding issues, less micro management, more range, no drop in DPS when losing hitpoints. Mass is only dropped on death, not when individual units die. And you can build anywhere, not just in T3 factories. They can me hidden much easier than a 30+ unit army. The classic "one mega unit vs. swarm" case. If it was so simple as numbers (T3 vs. T4) then top players wouldnt build T4.
What an excellent game
Is this some reupload or is this just a very old replay I already watched a cast of some months ago somewhere else? Feels like I remember this game.
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Gyle said it was from july
First a like, then watch, it never disappoints!
That Jonathan ross moment had me cwying lmfao
Are Bricks just better than Loyalists? As I never see them in these games.
My understanding (nonplayer but watch a lot) is that loyalists are good at early T3 when they can be deployed much quicker due to build time / cost / movement speed, and also on large open maps where roving around fast is valuable. But when it's big armies and constrained avenues of attack, then bricks are better because they are just better as a sledgehammer in term of cost / damage / durability.
On the one hand, I really really wanted to watch the video, on the other hand the smile thumbnail send me straight to hell fire. Tough choice. No. 1 won.
when you eat ya salat while enjoying some SCFA and Gyle starts to talk about feet... YUM :D
what an epic final :D
Right by the "EPIC" sign XD
Where my discord link at Gyle? (j/k, already on it - You can alternatively find the link on their site which is in the description.)
Awesome match!
Hello, how do You display this much stats in a replay? Is it a mod?
LMAO that ending. Amazing.
UNRELATED but I have been trying to find a MOD I used years ago called something like micro\mini commander that made all units 1/2 or maybe 1/4 scale which makes small maps play bigger. but I cant find it anywhere!!!
That was a silly and fun game to watch xP
After watching a couple of cast, I'm wondering why the player don't use the fatboy to produce unit? Doesn't it produce unit 3x faster than a t3 factory.
It also has to stop moving I believe
@@czarus_the_sniper9924 True
best game ever. This is better than roblox, and fortnite. Better than Justin Beiber and BTS.... what other tags can I put in this? Biden? Trump?
lol a very nice win from raider, gingerbreadman hella struggled this entire game to do anything.
You didn't watch till the end :P
Man , i'm going to sleep after i rooted for team 1 all the damn game ... completely bamboozled ... The teams i rooted for in Gyle casts before , never won .. I don't know wtf .. Anyway , good night ya'll wherever you are :)
Most epic comeback since the Polish-Soviet war
Hey. the discord link. Where?!
This was an awesome battle
Great game, loved it!
Cast by willow or dualist. Few weeks ago. Not sure which
Craaaazey! Well done Ginger!
Was this casted on the patreon before it was released to everyone?
Patreon has totally different casts, there is no overlap with the RUclips channel.
epic game! :) Good game
*EPIC* Game! :)
For me was the Cybran Player clearly the winner. WHen you look at the Bases and Eco etc he was top notch. GG my friend
Yay
I have 100 SAM sites and all you have left is 2 Czar so I'll put my commander where none if my SAM can defend it
Guys can you still play online in supcom 2021/2022 ?
Get bigger shoes if its the toenails on your big toes that are ingrown. Trust me on this.
why are there downvotes?
Bloody Good Game...!!!
Lol, where's the discord link?
Love the content ;)
Exceptional play by GingerbreadMan. EricaPwnz and Kavat were both incredibly careless and noobish in how they handled their Commanders. Embarrassing.
epic ending
wow that was amazing