Simple Trick to BOOST YOUR POWER CAPACITY! | Power Station Daisy Chain
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You may very well be aware of this method! If you feel you can add anything I missed, please add below!
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I was just wondering if this method will still work if one of the power stations hide lithium-ion chemistry and another one had lithium iron phosphate
@@bigdogfromnj I'll have to give it a try, but I don't think the battery chemistry should make a difference. BTW, Another NJ native here in PA now.
This works fine but it is more efficient to use them one at a time to avoid parasitic power drain through the chain.
Very true!
Go 12 volt right thru to the end. The loss is not too bad unless you involve an inverter.
@@matthoward1174,the downside to charging through 12 volts, it is usually only a fraction of the charging speed that other charging methods allow.
This info can be extremely useful to know though. If you have a limited number of solar panels it may be best to suck up all the sun possible very quickly into the main unit and charge the more portable units from it. This info has various applications in emergency situations. Options are very important and you need to know everything about your setup to be able to apply it if it`s ever needed. A charger can fail, for instance, and another unit may be the only charger you have.
For someone who lives in a country where power outages are quite common (Hello, Philippines!!), this is quite helpful
You're losing about 10 - 15% using one to recharge the other because of efficiency loss from the charging unit's inverter. Use the generators separately
It is not as efficient as using separately, thanks for reminding
If you`re using solar it doesn`t really matter. The large unit can handle much more charging and there are major advantages to this in emergency situations. It`s all about options. For instance, my Bluetti EB70 has a solar limit of about 145 watts, but my "el cheapo" 500w power station can accept 200w of solar input, so I can use pass through charging to transfer most of this into the EB70 with its 200w charger, even with losses, to charge it faster. Sometimes this can be the only chance of getting a full charge like when clouds are expected to move in. Solar is a logistical juggling act.
I did this back in February/March in California when park got flooded I used two 720 and 320 Eco flows powered them with my Prius that kept my trailer fully powered. We were parked on the side of the road with a whole bunch of other rv and trailers. I was the only one prepared no one else had power. I had ppl knocks on my door, asking me to charge their phones. My trailer was lit up like a Christmas tree . I’m very thankful for those power stations and my Prius I definitely want to upgrade to bigger setup later but I did add two 110 solar panels since then
I have a EcoFlow Delta 1000, a River Pro 2 and a River Pro with a spare battery. I also have both a 110W solar panel and a 220W. Either the Delta 1000 or the River Pro 2 can use the 220W panel, but the River pro is limited to using my 110W panel. With the information you just provided I can charge all three at the same time using the 220W panel in series with the 110W panel hooked up to the Delta 1000, something I of which had never thought. I really appreciate that and having stumbled onto your channel and have now subscribed, thanks again.
i bought a 12volt refrigerator to go with my powerbanks so i don't have to have a really large unit with a big inverter.
That is pretty cool. I think I am gonna try that with my River 2 and my Delta Pro.
This does show how versatile the Ecoflow power stations are.
I just use a 12v 260ah (3,328wh) LFP (Lifepo4) battery that stays connected to my solar panels with a 12 to 24 volt step up and a 7 tip adapter so it fits all of my power stations, very little power loss and it works great 😎😎
Seems like a good idea. I think I am gonna try this daisy chain with my Ecoflow power stations. Thanks for the tip.
Have fun!
It's great to practice and play around with charging/extending options.
I can charge my units in my van via the cigarette outlet and c to c cable giving me 112w DC combined charging whilst out working. It does take all day but then ready to use again once home.
Great ideas and very good information. Thanks!
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Great video!!Thank you!😊👌
Thank you too!
Thanks for sharing the video and showing how to do a daisy chain. I think I am gonna do that with my Delta.
Go for it!
I am digging that River 2, looks really small and portable. I could use a power station like that.
Nice I have several power stations to daisy chain if needed. I have 2 EcoFlow Mini’s, 1 EcoFlow River 2, 1 EcoFlow River Mini, 1 Goal Zero Yeti 400 Lithium, 1 Goal Zero Yeti 150, and a GoLabs i200.
I use this same principal with 4 ea. LifePO4 12v 100ah batteries that I can daisy chain with either of my Bluetti ac200p, Anker 535’s or Jackery explorer 500 & 300 for extended use if necessary. I can also charge them quicker using their respective power bricks using a Bestek 300w inverter. I used a NOCO GC018 15A 14AWG 12V Adapter, Heavy-Duty Cigarette Lighter Plug, and Female Socket with Eyelet Terminals for each battery for the Bestek’s as well as other 12v needed items🎉…And yes I have plenty of portable solar panels for each of my portable power stations when the sun shines…I pick what I need for any given project or trip and go….
It’s great having different options for the different scenarios you may face
I liked all your other vids but a 3 way plug or surge would work too. You use power for the unit and when you convert from DC to AC . So will be more power drain. Just some thoughts.
Good tip cris! Thanks as always for adding to the convo
I'm barely a novice but during covid I decided to make my own solar so I understand it within the context of what I buit and found out ty sir for doing these.
That is absolutely the best way to learn this stuff and have it stick. Jump right in and find out!
I'd do it in reverse with the smaller units charging the larger units, since the larger has a more powerful inverter for things like refrigerators.
Great point
Thanks for this..I will try it out on my river pro and river pro 2 ..might get more time running the camping fridge....
I have a 200w solar panel on van roof and a 110w portable panel too....
Batteries can be series or parallel depending on volt watt requirements
I have 4 200 amp AGM batteries hooked to my UPS I have 8 solar panels hooked to my charge controller Those 8 batteries I can run all day my computer my TV Charge my phones. Up until about 11:00 o'clock at night. Then I plug the ups in the wall and it charges all my batteries.
@@elmerwaltermeyer8340 good 👍
power station junkie like me haha
I remember all your videos bringing this topic to the front of your epic survival videos.
When the video first started, the powerstations overwhelmed you in size.
Someone has been doing some purchasing Lol.
Haha there's not enough room in the picture for all of it!
Thanks for watching
@@PracticalPreparedness
these are addictive toys with the addition of survival in mind.
my battalion:
Jackery 1000 explorer. (Flag-ship)!
Enginstar 296wh (This one most used).
Ctechi 320wh (weird capacity, still testing).
Beaudens 166wh (chuck about reliable back-pack beast).
All daisy-chain compatible starting from jackery downwards.
Come on!.... my friends said I need counselling as im addicted to these.
I said: "POSITIVELY, you don't have the CAPACITY to CHARGE my progress in this field"
Bought another two in rebellion to NEGATIVE feedback. Lol
Hahaha I had to start giving mine to family, it is an addiction
@@PracticalPreparedness when you have the knowledge you know what to do. You have been a strong candidate for me to get involved into self sustainability and power management, even though we can survive without it.
We do need a little nudge along the way. Thats why I followed your channel all this time to better myself and be best prepared for changes in our environments. Mentoring guru.
My plan is to use the car cigarette lighter port of the smaller ones to top off a larger one when there is a higher power demand load that I want to keep powered with the larger one.
Heard a good prepper saying, two is one, one is none
Some or the best advice to give.
Hello there! Great video! According to your tips, I could daisy chain a Delta 2 Max and a River 2 Pro together and it would be abble to provide me about 2800wh. Is this correct?
While 2 delta max stations daisy chained for more watt hours can i simultaneously have 400W solar panels plugged into each of them to keep charge? I think the answer would be yes but i wasnt quite clear.
A good video I enjoyed it
Glad you enjoyed it
We are very new to this as a prepper, not so much for weather. We have a fridge in the kitchen and two freezers in the garage (about 70 ft away). Would we want to daisy chain these two locations, or would we be better to use two units separately. We are considering two Eco Delta, or maybe one and then the backup. In summer months we would want to add a fan or two in the living areas and perhaps a smaller generator in the sleeping areas. Also, what about the new EP500? Would you daisy chain from that? Any help is greatly appreciated.
hi can i do this with my 2 1000watt Jackery?
Tks for the video. Can we daisy chain with the smallest battery furthest away and the larger battery closer to the load? I.e the smallest battery is charging the larger battery. Reason for asking is that the load requires 12V DC output 6A, which the larger battery can supply, while the smaller battery DC output is only 12V 3A.
Correct. He did it backwards because the small one would shut down in about 2-3 hours with a 200 watt load and only 100 watts DC coming in.
Had to play this several times but finally got it. This video was fantastic. Now I have a fantastic electric system and I didn’t have to buy anything else. Good job!
Great! Just remember to use DC and not AC to reduce power loss through conversion. AC is not efficient
i do this but i always use the 12volt socket. feels like a waste using the ac charger and going from dc to ac to dc.
It’s definitely not the most efficient.
To use the ac inverters that is
@@PracticalPreparedness i just tried it out dc to dc with the 12 volt was basically 1 to 1. when i used the ac charger i had a 13 watt loss... daisy chaining is awesome just use the dc ciggy plug
@@mitchvaniderstine7059 You are absolutely correct. At last, someone gets it!
You could build a unit with LTO. Cycle life of 10,000+. Toshiba scib cells are in the 30,000 cycle range.
Even safer than LiFeP04 just nowhere near the $100/kwh I look for when buying LiFeP04. (New LiFeP04 usually starts at $200/kwh)
I've seen many videos on piggy backing solar generators but I have not seen a Jackery unit being used??? Why is that?
You are correct but all machines must have pass throughcharging to daisy chain them
What about the watt output limitations on the smallest unit that you are working from
The river has Xboost.. it can put out way more watts than say a jackery etc. Very useful for appliances that have a huge surge.
No, this will not work. The amount of power (Watts) will be limited by the inverter capacity of the last unit in the chain. Also, Watts and Watt-hours are not the same. A Watt is a unit of power. One Watt is one Joule per second. One Watt times one hour is 3600 Joules. A very small number of power stations can be bridged (with special cables) to provide more power, but this is the exception, not the rule.
While you _can_ daisy chain _some_ inverters to extend the run time of the last one, it's not very efficient because of heat losses in converting to AC and back to DC. Note that models with pass-through power will just use up the capacity of the unit upstream. While that may have some use as a pseudo-UPS, the multiple conversions between AC and DC waste energy overall. You'd be far better off just using one, then another rather than daisy chain them. And no, using the DC output is not "far more efficient" as any regulated DC output also loses a fair amount of power to heat. There is no free lunch.
Great call out on the efficiency/heat-loss when converting. Agreed if there is no need to increase capacity collectively, you’re better off using separate.
@@PracticalPreparedness another thing, while electricity is great for a lot of modern tasks, sometimes chemical energy can't be beat. Using a power station to run a resistive heater will deplete the electricity quickly, and not provide much heat. But if you can use the same power station to get your natural gas or propane furnace running, the heat from the gas will be plenty.
The DIY HVAC Guy has done a few videos on retrofitting a furnace with a cord and plug to power the furnace during power outages. And I keep a dozen 1# bottles of propane for my camp stove out in the shed for cooking if the power goes out. Cooking with an electric hot plate would use up a lot of battery power, and I'd rather save mine to keep my radios & flashlights charged, and to run the TV. And lots of spare wool blankets for everyone.
This isn’t bad option, but I just got a 100ah hour battery and using aligator clips to xt60 ..I plug directly into the my flow … cheaper option
I got the 100ah for $169 on eBay
Off chance we have more than 2, we all suffer from solar generator addiction.
Lol I’m not the only one!
Ever forget you MAYbe able to permentatly hook up solar cells to keep the unit “topped off” for free, it all depends on if you an get sunlight near your generators
It’s a great idea. Less you have to do to maintain. I live the units that allow you to cap to 80% to help keep the battery more stable
If you're in a location where you can set up solar and you have sunny conditions. This time of year I'm lucky if I have one sunny day out of 10. Sometimes you need to get creative to keep things running.
Nuts. Just use only one power station at a time.
Definitely not my first go-to. Just thought was an interesting option and has possible use cases, i.e. charging a smaller unit with a larger via DC to avoid power AC loss. Just throwing out options. Thanks for watching
You use two power stations and you telling us is lasting more than one power station?
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I am going to venture a guess that the creator was something..."Patriotic". If so, yeah, I agree. They aren't lying about the features, but those infomercials are misleading in that they don't provide all of the significant information. Every one of those commercials are praying on the ignorance of people to make sales. On top of that, they sell those units at a cost higher than all of the other commercially available units of equal function and feature. Several other YT channels have requested sample units for testing purposes, but have been ignored. They know and fear that the facts and under-performing features will be revealed.