Who Needs Solar Panels? Bluetti Charger1 Alternator Charger
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- I never bother to charge my power stations through the 12 volt accessary outlet while I'm driving, it takes too long! Not anymore with this new product from Bluetti which charges your power stations fast.
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A lot of folks are worried about damaging the alternator by using this DC to DC charger. You really can't overstress the alternator, it puts out what it's designed to and that's it. The thing is that it puts out a lot more than is needed to run the car and recharge the car's battery. DC to DC chargers have been in use for many years, this one is just designed specifically for power stations and is made to be easy to install.
When the battery reaches full charge and the demands of any accessories are met, the ecu regulator reduces the field current on the alternator to produce a voltage slightly below the battery level. Essentially the alternator is free wheeling. 60 amp alternator requires about 1 hp to produce max load output. (1.84hp for 80 amp) The ECU ability to control the load on the alternator from practical 0 amps to 60 greatly reduces fuel consumption and excess wear. Excess energy does not exist in modern day vechicles.
van conversions have been using this form of charging for years and one of the things that have come to light is this form of charging is it is hard on factory alternators so the vans will install a heavy duty or even a second alternator.Alternators are designed to increase output as engine speed increases, i would be testing how this affects my battery while it is actually charging the power station at idle and find out what my alternators max output is......this is a good option but i am not sure it is a magic bullet. i also question the value of running a car engine instead of a small gen to charge a power station, is convenience that important?
It's going to so most of the work while you are driving the car for normal errands, but on a rainy day you could idle the car for while to keep the refrigerator going if you wanted to. The refrigerator is only drawing about 45 watts while it's running so there is plenty left over to recharge your power station.
Good revue, but being on the cautious side and having a newer vehicle I would not install this item. Run a test with an amp clamp on meter and see how much stress it puts on the alternator, I am sure it is considerable.
You really can't overstress the alternator, it puts out what it's designed to and that's it. The thing is that it puts out a lot more than is needed to run the car and recharge the car's battery. DC to DC chargers have been in use for many years, this one is just designed specifically for power stations and is made to be easy to install.
The Tacoma (2021 TRD PRO) alternator is rated at 170A at idle. I added a Victron 12-24 DC/DC and adjusted the Victron output voltage to limit the input current
@@hemobreak the alternator on my Honda doesn't put out anything at idle, kicks on about 2000 RPM.
@@gsp49 Are you really saying that if you turn on your headlights and idle your Honda, it will drain your 12V battery until dead, and never use the alternator to keep it charged? Is it totally only going by engine rpm, or is it also triggered by a dropping battery voltage? I assume the latter, in which case this would work just fine.
@@EfficientRVer I'm guessing it will kick in if it detects low battery voltage. I've never seen one that puts out at idle speed.
Gamechanger Rick! Thanks for keeping us up to date on these things! Stay Safe!
Excellent review as always. I used this all weekend to power my all electric kitchen gear and it topped everything off every day. Another win for Bluetti.
Been charging my 2nd battery while driving for years now. No damage to alternator or batteries for a lot less money than these things. When in camp I use solar.
Great to see more of your tips and info on your equipment that
you take with you on your travels and everything that you need
to know about them especially with the Bluetti Charger1 there
and as always another great video thank you Rick and Linda
have a wonderful week.☕🍩👋🇺🇲
Great idea. Probably not something we would purchase, but really is a great idea. I think the best feature is that you can adjust the voltage it puts out so you can charge any brand/size.
I would bring my generator on the first test run if it was me 🤔
. . . . and my solar panels. (which he has on the roof, so he's covered I guess.)
Your vehicle already is a generator. Worst case, you have to run your car engine more than you wanted, but it is not going to be an emergency. Check that it works before taking your trip, and ditch the generator.
Thanks 😊
A DC to DC charger is just a step up/down transformer, depending on application, to provided the correct voltage to the item being supplied. This is just matching the solar input voltage for faster charging. This is a slick set up but are DIY amazon solution: transformer $25 C/B $17 wires $50 approx.
I have a 12 to 24 Buck inverter, but I also own three EB3a's and two Ac180's. The App is slick because you can dial in what your power station model is. and it's got a built in fan. Those buck inverters can get pretty hot. I need to see a price drop before I pull the trigger.
WHAT!!!!
WHAT!!!!!
This is earth shattering!!! No more weak solar panels charging!!!!
Unless one is by some natural disaster (roads washed out) stranded in one spot for a week or three. I will be quite happy to have that 500 watts of solar up on the roof. The neat thing is that one can have as many charge sources as one likes, all connected to one's battery bank, but use only one type of charger at any time. Nothing else connected will blow up; it's just not being used. Cheers.
@@applesbighatranch6906 I have two 175 watt renogy flex panels and don’t get enough charge as fast as I would like it, this charger should eliminate being without a viable second option!!
Great video. do you just have the power cord running down the side of the inside of your car? do you just on hook everything when you're ready to drive? can you do a video on how everything is hook from the battery? thanks.
The cable runs inside of my car and under the trim or carpet. It stays hooked up and you can turn it on or off using the switch on the circuit breaker that's near the power station.
Very nice.. Thanks Rick.
: ) THANKS MUCH for sharing a better way to charge power stations... just a little too expensive for me :( May another type of DC to DC charger would be more affordable for us part timers : ) ALL the BEST and ENJOY! Cheers ! ! : )
I just checked it out and Bluetti is sold out of the Charger 1 Kit. You can buy a Buck inverter, which I have but those features in the App make it so I want one.
Were you ever a teacher? Just kinda familiar delivery, thoughtfully organized, as though from a syllabus.
You hit the highlights, laid-down some important secondary details - all under 10 minutes.
I know these can take a lot of time to polish this well - thanks so much.
Now I want Bluetti to bundle AC200L with this Charger1 and then I'll jump all over that.
But I still need my portable panel, because I do not wish to drive. I want to arrive at destination and if enjoying, staying as long as possible.
Even still, if the unit and install kit is under $400 and life of the product..., seems like something a lot of campers, van dwellers should do. Because it adds another very viable method to charge... days of overcast, but YOU still leave your gen at home 😃
You are the first one on RUclips that I have seen show what comes in the kit. Good job. Rick, reckon this would work helping charge my batteries on my travel trailer? I have a 12v 200 amp hour batteries. I'm a travel nurse, so I stay in Walmart parking lots as I travel from point A to B, the overnight stays don't pull the batteries down to much most of time, but string two or three stops together, and the battery can get down fairly low. I have portable solar (not enough)but nothing on the roof, but where the solar connects is an mc4 connection next to the tongue jack. If I had this charger, I was thinking I could connect it there. Seems doable, what do you think?
That is great info Rick. I have an Li-BIM to charge my house battery in the van. Hmmm.... I'm wondering if you could stick this in too just for the power station. As you know I have that Bibene 500w 614wh power station. It is still such a part of my power equipment. (I guess they are Oukitel these days) I guess it is research time. LOL
Thanks again for all the information your videos provide. Excellent stuff!
Great video as always. Using a DC2DC charger is the safest way to go when mixing battery types. Speaking for myself, my diesel truck's emission hardware, (DPF/SCR) doesn't like excessive idling. I carry a small Sportsman 800watt inverter generator to recharge the batteries when days and/or sites aren't conducive for solar. No more idling of the truck.
Wow. That’s a great idea from Bluetti. Most of the cigarette lighter plugs are 12v & 10 amps so the most you’d ever get would be 120 watts. That alternator completely changes that. 500 watts seems like a big load. It doesn’t damage the car alternator or battery?
It can damage the alternator. Some alternators are not capable of handling that load.
No, it's fine, the alternator is putting out power 100% of the time that your car is running.
@@gonagain Some modern cars completely shut off the alternator under many conditions, such as when the car battery is fully charged and the car is idling. But most of those, still make sure to protect the car battery if the car battery starts draining much, so this scheme still works. It would pay for everyone to read their owner's manual, or find the detailed tech info about their car's charging system.
The simplest test is to turn on your headlights and other electrical loads, or better yet, drive a 500W load off your car battery, maybe an inverter clamped onto your car battery via jumper cable clamps. Let it run a few hours and see if the alternator keeps up the battery voltage or not while idling. If not, find a way to trick your alternator into running.
As always, great info. It's amazing to me how all this works and can make life easier living on the road or camping. I've always had pretty good mechanical aptitude but when it comes to electrical I must admit I'm a dummy. You make it look easy! Thanks Rick!
You will be wearing out your alternator at an accelerated rate.
The alternator is always turning and producing power as you drive. If it wasn't you'd just be running off of your battery. This just utilizes the excess power that's available. Not just that, but it's only doing so for a short duration until the power station is charged.
@@gonagain not accurate, the alternators output is adjusted by a built in regulator or by the engine ECU , in either case it puts a significant load on the charging system and will cause excel excess wear.
@thompsonjerry3412 exactly correct. When the battery reaches full charge and the demands of any accessories are met, the ecu regulator reduces the field current on the alternator to produce a voltage slightly below the battery level. Essentially the alternator is free wheeling. 60 amp alternator requires about 1 hp to produce max load output. (1.84hp for 80 amp) The ECU ability to control the load on the alternator from practical 0 amps to 60 greatly reduces fuel consumption and excess wear. Excess energy does not exist in modern day vechicles.
This sounds awesome. Comes at a great time too. I, just this weekend, experienced what you said. It would seriously take 12 hrs of continuous driving to successfully charge an AC180. This is definitely something we’ll be looking into. Thanks for sharing
Great product just ordered mine thanks again
I'm gonna tell everyone in my "Ham Radio" club about this next week at our "Field Meeting".
Good luck when the grid is down and it's shtf time.
As usual a very good and educational video. Thank you!
Like bluetti buti don't like anything that you can only control through a app. 👎
It just keeps getting better all the time, doesn’t it?
Looks like you have a motorcycle shop now!
Great review, thanks Rick ✌️
Here.😊
Well, hot damn, Rick. That's exactly what I've been looking for. I currently use a Victron DC-to-DC converter and I can only get 225 watts out of it. Yet, my Bluetti AC180 can take up to 500 watts. This should fit the ticket. Let us know how hot it gets, would you? Thanks for posting this video. Cheers!
It runs cool and also has a cooling fan that you can hear, but it's not loud.
Question: Will fast charging your power pack shorten the life of the battery?
That isn't a fast charge for the power station.
Good tip Rick, I know that this might sound a little peculiar but if anyone asks you to ride with them in a motorcycle side car and film.... Don't do it! Don't ask me why.... Just don't. Safe Travels
Ok, I'm going to avoid doing that!
I don't drive a car i don't have a truck don't have a alternator u are assuming everybody has a RV car truck van . I do have Solar panels and inverter different types of batteries small medium big and 3 charge controllers 2 30amp 1 10 amps hm ok.
Thanks for sharing the info
What a great product! Thanks for the review. I'm so glad the options for power have changed so much over the last 10 years. It was my biggest anxiety about travel and the functional space in my van - how do I keep the things I like to use charged? It doesn't look like there's any need to create a full electrical system anymore. These power station options - and now this charger - really keep it simple. Thanks so much!
Exactly, and this is a good tool to have in the kit.
"don't have to bring a generator and breathe in the fumes" then suggests to idle larger vehicle at camp. hahaha smack head
Nah, the point is that you can charge while just driving to the store or other errands, but if you have to you can idle the car. Either way I don't need to haul around the generator.
Great tip Rick,
I bought a 400W inverter that plugs into the 12v cigarette lighter in my truck. Jo-Ann and I would plug our Inergy Apex into that to charge it on travel days.
The Inergy Apex spec is that 120V charging is at 500W. I fail to see how the usual 12V 10A wiring to a lighter socket supports a 500W load plugged into a 400W inverter plugged into the socket.
Tyvm Rick for the information on this amazing product. What a great breakthrough Bluetti has came up with here.
Breakthrough? DC-DC chargers have been around for a very long time. The only slight difference here, is making it very user friendly for use with power stations that have varying input voltage limits, rather than with just a battery of a fixed voltage.
If your vehicle battery goes dead, you will need the generator to get it started.
Name me a RUclipsr who hasn't received a free lithium jump starter pack. Carrying a generator in a vehicle, to start a dead-battery car, or even carrying jumper cables in 2024, is crazy. Personally, I just upgraded from a jump starter pack to one that's combined with a good little 160psi air compressor. Uibi X7, paid $71 on sale on Amazon. 24,000mAh = 89Wh, so it's still under the 99Wh limit for carrying onto an airplane.
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Hey, do you have any cycles??? hahahahahaha, you're gonna need a barn to house all of those steeds...
I just added a Harley!
With Taj-Ma-Haul, since I have 2.7kWatt/hrs of exposed Solar in transit... I've never felt the need to rely an alternate charging method like the car alternator. But this is handy for those who can take advantage of charge-while-traveling.
My Bluetti will not charge off of a generator, or a panel over 100 watts.
How many volts will you Bluetti accept? Even the old Bluetti AC50 will take up to 40 volts and this Charger1 can be set as low as 15 volts.
@@gonagain I ordered a Dokio 200 watt suitcase style panel, neither the EB3A or the AC180 recognizes it. But it's works OK for everything else. Also neither recognize my Chinese 2 stroke generator. I was wanting a faster way to charge the 180 when out in the desert , other than household current that gets it up to 650 watts input, and works ok. Both work fine off of various cheap 100 watt panels, but its so slow. About 60 or 70 watts max.
Excellent info Rick! Thanks 😊
Be careful. I like Rick and appreciate his information but I don't think this is completely right on. There's a limit to what an alternator can do and adding a 500 watt draw on a system just seems like too much to me. We'll see, I guess!
The smallest alternator you are likely to find on a car puts out over 1800 watts of power and most pickups and SUVs have larger alternators than that, putting out 2500 to 3500 watts. The alternator is mostly only working for a short time to replace the energy that you used to start the car and after that is just coasting while running the ignition and the vehicles accessories. The charger is not going to affect it at all.