With extreme respect, this may not be a high podium but nevertheless it's an opportunity to enlighten Europeans in a concise and factual way, so well said by Mr Khezmalyan. Thank you both for such wholesome interview ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
Armenians have been present since the dawn of European civilization. They not only maintained ties with early not yet Europe but actively contributed to its development, particularly through as an example, numerous Eastern Roman emperors of Armenian descent. And we all know about Roman Empire’s input in shaping of European civilization. Unlike the s.c. azeris, who emerged from obscurity as complete strangers and, like the turks, antagonistic to Europe, Armenians were integral to its foundation. It’s disheartening that Europeans would even entertain the idea of barbaric states like Azerbaijan as potential European nations.
To some Armenophobes in the comments: Europe is not only GEOGRAPHY, it is also culture, Democracy, history, values, human rights, woman rights( in parliaments and in major government offices ) science, art! With all these regards Armenia is very European and shares similar values, Armenia is also Oriental/Middle Eastern/or West Asian as some like to see, they are influenced by their thousand year ancient neighbors, and also they were the road and connection in ancient times from Armenia to Europe and from there to China the silk road! So before just typing ignorant comments like Armenia is Asian, stop think, read world history,open a book of ethymology ancient countries, check ancient maps, and you will see where ARMENIA stands as an ancient civilasation. Peace from Yerevan to the human species
In an era of disinformation, let's clear that Armenia is not "Caucasus" or "Balkans". Armenians don't speak someone else's language, practice another's religion or claim history without proof. Armenian heritage, art, culture and verifiable history is strewn all over European and world museums. Our values and proven resilience to safeguard them in a sea of enemies, will surely guide us back to where we rightfully belong for millenia. Europe. ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
Armenian people are deeply not European Armenian people have more in common with that with Persians, assyrians and Kurds and pontic Greeks from there traditions and their culture. I don't know why people live under this illusion and think that Armenians are Europeans Armenians are a west Asian people
It’s a nice idea. I only know Armenia through the Armenian diaspora, which is definitely sharing European (Western?) values. That said, the reality of geopolitics on the ground makes a full adhesion difficult as long as Russia is outside and considered an enemy. Maybe there could be some alliance with a free and democratic Russia one day and a larger European zone that includes Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine and Russia.
Brilliant! Hopefully there'll be more videos on Armenia. They are a deeply European people and it is surprising to see how little the general public really knows about them.
Armenian people are deeply not European Armenian people have more in common with that with Persians, assyrians and Kurds and pontic Greeks from there traditions and their culture. I don't know why people live under this illusion and think that Armenians are Europeans Armenians are a west Asian people
@@MrAintGotNoBitches Christian people. They are that old bridge, connecting Europe with its ancient roots originating from that area, plus the key to understand i-e languages as linguists say in the Armenian language.
24:00 Pontos = the point, and it probably relates to the English translation. It used to refer to Crimea and the reference started to include NE Asia Minor and left Crimea. Not solving an issue with diplomatic means and doing a referendum is dangerous and can result in a WW3 (I believe we're already in Cold War 2). It's sad to see that everything achieved after WW2 is threatened today. 😢
In my defence, Google Meets for some reason nukes the brightness of my webcam, it isn't this bad on other livestreams. In any case lighting yes, but a new cam would be even better. Seeing as my boss agrees with you in the previous comment perhaps we can make it happen! ;) - Elliot
@@EUMadeSimple Oh lord they got you using Google Meets! My poor guy! I am sure Lambertus can afford you a new cam with all that patreon money haha. Niet zo gierig doen eh, Lambertus!
~ 37:14, what Mr. Khzmalyan saying about Azerbaijan and Russia is a bit wrong. 1. Russia wanted status quo of the war, so neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia couldn't go past the conflict and needed a mediator (Russia) to solve it, now it's changed, so Russia didn't help the Azerbaijan, rather it was the Turkey.. Also the consequence was that Russians were driven off from Azerbaijan, exactly opposite to what Russia wanted. 2. Russia want's the piece of the border with Iran, because this is the only other country Armenia have access to . Azerbaijan and Turkey are de-facto enemies, Georgia is currently almost controlled by Russia, so in this case Armenia will be locked, also Russia could use this border for some weapon trade with Iran (additionally to the Caspian sea).. 3. Russia could (and already did this) build the pipeline under the Black sea, directly to Turkey, w/o dependency on the political will of Azerbaijan, Armenia or anybody else. Also Azerbaijan oil is a competitor to the Russian oil, so why would Azerbaijan be interested in this? Azerbaijan want's this to have a land corridor to it's excalve - Nakhchivan, which will also serve Russian interests. All in all it's just doesn't adds up.
Only if they can socially liberalize and leave eastern ideas of thinking behind. Conservatism has no place in Europe and it’s still strong the caucus. The main issue with Armenia and Georgia are not how poor they are but rather the way their people think and their politicians behave. And Azerbaijan is a joke and no hope of ever joining for thousands of reasons.
But this guest speaker does give me hope. If only more Armenians were like him. I visited for 2 months last year. Interesting but deeply flawed country.
@@HelloHi-g2uмы вырвались из лап отсталого медведя, пережили очередной геноцид от восточных кочевых варваров и назад пути у нас нет. Нам доказать нечего. В таких условиях вы бы не продержались ни дня, а мы не сдаёмся уже несколько десятков веков. Изучите историю пожалуйста. Откажитесь от стереотипов..
👏👏just one remark. Armenians have a Western mentality. If it weren't so, we wouldn't have problems with Russians and Azerbaijanis. They accuse us of being monoethnic and "not letting them near us". This is an indicator of what our position is. For centuries, we have been accompanied by our ethnic memory. We had Western-type states even when the eastern tribes weren't even nomadic yet. And politicians are temporary. We overthrew the Russians, survived the war, there is no way back for us. What other proof do you need that we are not on the same path with the East🤷😔
😔@HelloHi-g2u we have escaped from the clutches of a backward bear, survived another genocide from eastern nomadic barbarians and there is no way back for us. We have nothing to prove. In such conditions you would not have lasted a day, but we have not given up for several dozen centuries. Please study history. Give up stereotypes.
It is impressive that Armenia keeps wanting to join an organization that gladly funds their main enemy and existential threat while calling it a "trustworthy partner", downplaying its war crimes, and congratulating its leader for "winning" the national elections. But since the other option is Russia I think I can understand.
You mean Turkey or Azerbaijan? And the EU's job is not to choose sides, possibly divide even more. Nobody has any use for that. Diplomacy is the EU's job, and that includes keeping all sides happy. Absolutist views aren't gonna work in politics or diplomacy. And in case you are talking about Turkey, maybe you haven't noticed but there is quite a large Turkish population in Europe. Starting fights with Turkey over small things and upsetting a pretty large portion of your population is not a good idea. edit: also a lot of European countries have recognised the Armenian genocide as true.
@@JaegerDreadful I was talking about Azerbaijan. "And the EU's job is not to choose sides" Oh really? They were very quick to criticize Lugagesnko for "winning" its elections in Belarus and sanctioning the regime. They also recognize Kosovo despite having just as much right to exist as an independent state as Artshak. Or the Ukrainian conflict. Isn't that picking sides? If you want to say this is all just geopolitics and the EU its fighting for its selfish interests that's fine, but they have no right to use the morality argument. Everybody can smell their hypocrisy from miles away.
@@JaegerDreadful How can politicians recognized a historic event that is not reached a concensus by historians ? Elaborate please. Armenian genocide is forced by Asala teror organization to europe. And it is far from being true.
Caucasus is like Balkans. If you want Balkans into EU, then you can have Caucasus too xD Jokes aside, what people think in all 3 South Caucasian countries is not necessarily necessary reflected by the country leaders
The quasi pejorative term "balkans" has no application here. We Armenians don't speak someone else's language, practice another's religion or claim history without proof. Armenian art, culture and verifiable history is strewn all over European and world museums. Our values and proven resilience to safeguard them in a sea of enemies, will surely guide us back to where we rightfully belong for millenia. Europe. ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
The elephant in the room is freedom of expression, including sexual expression. Armenia needs to undergo a sexual revolution before it can be up to par with the European union and legislation needs to nurture and support this. I believe this will inevitably happen but I don't know when. Maybe even after joining the EU
Really? That's the elephant in the room? Survival of the nation, genocide, Russian reliance, energy, security, corruption, wars, and the elephant in the room is sexual liberation? You need a mental check up.
Изучите историю Армении и старинные карты мира, узнайте как европейские крестоносцы добирались на восток и кто в мире принял христианство первым . В истоках Европы большими буквами написано Армения, жаль , что за 300 лет русские дали позабыть о многом...
Armenia is one of the most central european culture historically, the armenian culture is deeply influential in my country France. Nobody here would refuse them, and they totally fit in the idea people make of Europe Things may be harder for Azerbaïdjan as it is for Turkiye because of religious and historical matters. But I do not see why you are skeptical about Georgia and Armenia, it is not more strange than having Spain and Estonia sharing a same Parliament
Guy is talking against Russia throughout all video, it is understandable because of his own politic view, but he literally put the fact aside that without Russia, it would not be Armenia in that territory. Russia has been supporting it militarily, economically more than a century. If Armenia really wants to join EU, it should start to fix problems with neighbours which Pashniyan has been trying to do and reduce dependence from Russia.
@nihadasgerli3947 You interpret and make fake statements about the history of Armenia related to Russia as a KGB agent or as a spokesman for the state propaganda of dictator Aliyev😊.
I did not make any fake statements about Armenia. if "without Russia, it would not be Armenia in that territory" sounds fake to you, I would like to suggest you check modern Armenian history. I am neither KGB agent nor propaganda machine of any state or person. Enjoy your research🙂
"I'm Western European so I can't pronounce your name?" Hé? What nonsense. Since when is there a unified Western European language and set of sounds? The first letter of his last name is exactly how you pronounce "G" in Dutch, a very Western European language
@Peeoto not only. Norway doesn't, neither does Sweden, Denmark Germany, the Netherlands, UK and Ireland. Do you consider any of those countries not Western Europe?
Depends on where you put the line between Europe and Asia. Most people use the caucasus as the line and then follow the shore of the black sea of Turkey till you get to the Bosphorus striate. There is some very interesting video's on it.
Armenia has more Democracy than some European countries. And I can name them as I have lived in some and have travelled many European countries! What is Europe Geography? If so then CYPRUS should not be in Europe as it is not in Europe geographically but in Middle East! So stop the Armenophobia
These kind of people in the comments are just trolls, have you ever read a world history? Europe is not only geography, Armenia as an ancient civilasation shares same values as European values, democracy, first state to adopt Christianity as state faith/religion, ( even though I do not think Europe is religion based ) culture, women right and equality, freedom of speech for all even against the government, strong educational vise, freedom to choose and vote your own government, so if you are closed mind I suggest you to do reaserch before writing things it is in Asia, it is West Asia to begin with, it is Eurasia. All the best
Armenia is a genocided nation, what do you know what Armenia had, how far west it existed and was before we were slaughtered? How would you like to have your Europeaness stolen from you?
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Thank you for the discussion!
With extreme respect, this may not be a high podium but nevertheless it's an opportunity to enlighten Europeans in a concise and factual way, so well said by Mr Khezmalyan. Thank you both for such wholesome interview ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
Well said Dikran, Europe is a civilization and Armenians feel Europeans they do not need to justify it.
Armenians have been present since the dawn of European civilization. They not only maintained ties with early not yet Europe but actively contributed to its development, particularly through as an example, numerous Eastern Roman emperors of Armenian descent. And we all know about Roman Empire’s input in shaping of European civilization.
Unlike the s.c. azeris, who emerged from obscurity as complete strangers and, like the turks, antagonistic to Europe, Armenians were integral to its foundation. It’s disheartening that Europeans would even entertain the idea of barbaric states like Azerbaijan as potential European nations.
To some Armenophobes in the comments: Europe is not only GEOGRAPHY, it is also culture, Democracy, history, values, human rights, woman rights( in parliaments and in major government offices ) science, art! With all these regards Armenia is very European and shares similar values, Armenia is also Oriental/Middle Eastern/or West Asian as some like to see, they are influenced by their thousand year ancient neighbors, and also they were the road and connection in ancient times from Armenia to Europe and from there to China the silk road!
So before just typing ignorant comments like Armenia is Asian, stop think, read world history,open a book of ethymology ancient countries, check ancient maps, and you will see where ARMENIA stands as an ancient civilasation. Peace from Yerevan to the human species
Another symptom of being genocide. No one knows us anymore and much of our genes have been stolen.
In an era of disinformation, let's clear that Armenia is not "Caucasus" or "Balkans". Armenians don't speak someone else's language, practice another's religion or claim history without proof. Armenian heritage, art, culture and verifiable history is strewn all over European and world museums. Our values and proven resilience to safeguard them in a sea of enemies, will surely guide us back to where we rightfully belong for millenia. Europe. ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
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Armenian people are deeply not European Armenian people have more in common with that with Persians, assyrians and Kurds and pontic Greeks from there traditions and their culture. I don't know why people live under this illusion and think that Armenians are Europeans Armenians are a west Asian people
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Tigran Khzmalyan is an example of the gifts Armenia has to offer the world. 🇦🇲🇪🇺
All our best wishes for the European union.
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Well I signed....🎉🎉🎉
It’s a nice idea. I only know Armenia through the Armenian diaspora, which is definitely sharing European (Western?) values. That said, the reality of geopolitics on the ground makes a full adhesion difficult as long as Russia is outside and considered an enemy. Maybe there could be some alliance with a free and democratic Russia one day and a larger European zone that includes Armenia, Georgia, Ukraine and Russia.
This i think its the ultimate goal, a true European utopia. Europe will finally stop being at war with itself.
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Brilliant! Hopefully there'll be more videos on Armenia. They are a deeply European people and it is surprising to see how little the general public really knows about them.
Armenian people are deeply not European Armenian people have more in common with that with Persians, assyrians and Kurds and pontic Greeks from there traditions and their culture. I don't know why people live under this illusion and think that Armenians are Europeans Armenians are a west Asian people
@@MrAintGotNoBitches Christian people. They are that old bridge, connecting Europe with its ancient roots originating from that area, plus the key to understand i-e languages as linguists say in the Armenian language.
24:00 Pontos = the point, and it probably relates to the English translation. It used to refer to Crimea and the reference started to include NE Asia Minor and left Crimea.
Not solving an issue with diplomatic means and doing a referendum is dangerous and can result in a WW3 (I believe we're already in Cold War 2). It's sad to see that everything achieved after WW2 is threatened today. 😢
Elliot mate, a ring light would not be a wasteful purchase. Your lighting is terrible man.
He really does doesn't he 😂
In my defence, Google Meets for some reason nukes the brightness of my webcam, it isn't this bad on other livestreams. In any case lighting yes, but a new cam would be even better. Seeing as my boss agrees with you in the previous comment perhaps we can make it happen! ;) - Elliot
@@EUMadeSimple Oh lord they got you using Google Meets! My poor guy! I am sure Lambertus can afford you a new cam with all that patreon money haha. Niet zo gierig doen eh, Lambertus!
~ 37:14, what Mr. Khzmalyan saying about Azerbaijan and Russia is a bit wrong. 1. Russia wanted status quo of the war, so neither Azerbaijan nor Armenia couldn't go past the conflict and needed a mediator (Russia) to solve it, now it's changed, so Russia didn't help the Azerbaijan, rather it was the Turkey.. Also the consequence was that Russians were driven off from Azerbaijan, exactly opposite to what Russia wanted. 2. Russia want's the piece of the border with Iran, because this is the only other country Armenia have access to . Azerbaijan and Turkey are de-facto enemies, Georgia is currently almost controlled by Russia, so in this case Armenia will be locked, also Russia could use this border for some weapon trade with Iran (additionally to the Caspian sea).. 3. Russia could (and already did this) build the pipeline under the Black sea, directly to Turkey, w/o dependency on the political will of Azerbaijan, Armenia or anybody else. Also Azerbaijan oil is a competitor to the Russian oil, so why would Azerbaijan be interested in this? Azerbaijan want's this to have a land corridor to it's excalve - Nakhchivan, which will also serve Russian interests. All in all it's just doesn't adds up.
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Тряпку Украины убери
ukraine supported azers agains Armenia and Artsakh...
Only if they can socially liberalize and leave eastern ideas of thinking behind. Conservatism has no place in Europe and it’s still strong the caucus. The main issue with Armenia and Georgia are not how poor they are but rather the way their people think and their politicians behave. And Azerbaijan is a joke and no hope of ever joining for thousands of reasons.
But this guest speaker does give me hope. If only more Armenians were like him. I visited for 2 months last year. Interesting but deeply flawed country.
Most of Europe is ran by conservatives.
@@HelloHi-g2uмы вырвались из лап отсталого медведя, пережили очередной геноцид от восточных кочевых варваров и назад пути у нас нет. Нам доказать нечего. В таких условиях вы бы не продержались ни дня, а мы не сдаёмся уже несколько десятков веков. Изучите историю пожалуйста. Откажитесь от стереотипов..
👏👏just one remark. Armenians have a Western mentality. If it weren't so, we wouldn't have problems with Russians and Azerbaijanis. They accuse us of being monoethnic and "not letting them near us". This is an indicator of what our position is. For centuries, we have been accompanied by our ethnic memory. We had Western-type states even when the eastern tribes weren't even nomadic yet. And politicians are temporary. We overthrew the Russians, survived the war, there is no way back for us. What other proof do you need that we are not on the same path with the East🤷😔
😔@HelloHi-g2u we have escaped from the clutches of a backward bear, survived another genocide from eastern nomadic barbarians and there is no way back for us. We have nothing to prove. In such conditions you would not have lasted a day, but we have not given up for several dozen centuries. Please study history. Give up stereotypes.
It is impressive that Armenia keeps wanting to join an organization that gladly funds their main enemy and existential threat while calling it a "trustworthy partner", downplaying its war crimes, and congratulating its leader for "winning" the national elections. But since the other option is Russia I think I can understand.
The EU gives money to Armenia
You mean Turkey or Azerbaijan? And the EU's job is not to choose sides, possibly divide even more. Nobody has any use for that. Diplomacy is the EU's job, and that includes keeping all sides happy. Absolutist views aren't gonna work in politics or diplomacy. And in case you are talking about Turkey, maybe you haven't noticed but there is quite a large Turkish population in Europe. Starting fights with Turkey over small things and upsetting a pretty large portion of your population is not a good idea.
edit: also a lot of European countries have recognised the Armenian genocide as true.
Yea we dont have many options
@@JaegerDreadful I was talking about Azerbaijan. "And the EU's job is not to choose sides" Oh really? They were very quick to criticize Lugagesnko for "winning" its elections in Belarus and sanctioning the regime. They also recognize Kosovo despite having just as much right to exist as an independent state as Artshak. Or the Ukrainian conflict. Isn't that picking sides? If you want to say this is all just geopolitics and the EU its fighting for its selfish interests that's fine, but they have no right to use the morality argument. Everybody can smell their hypocrisy from miles away.
@@JaegerDreadful How can politicians recognized a historic event that is not reached a concensus by historians ? Elaborate please. Armenian genocide is forced by Asala teror organization to europe. And it is far from being true.
Is the country of Armenia now going to come under Europe?
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Caucasus is like Balkans. If you want Balkans into EU, then you can have Caucasus too xD
Jokes aside, what people think in all 3 South Caucasian countries is not necessarily necessary reflected by the country leaders
The quasi pejorative term "balkans" has no application here. We Armenians don't speak someone else's language, practice another's religion or claim history without proof. Armenian art, culture and verifiable history is strewn all over European and world museums. Our values and proven resilience to safeguard them in a sea of enemies, will surely guide us back to where we rightfully belong for millenia. Europe. ❤️🇦🇲🇪🇺🇺🇲❤️
Why not Manchuria ?
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The elephant in the room is freedom of expression, including sexual expression. Armenia needs to undergo a sexual revolution before it can be up to par with the European union and legislation needs to nurture and support this. I believe this will inevitably happen but I don't know when. Maybe even after joining the EU
Really? That's the elephant in the room? Survival of the nation, genocide, Russian reliance, energy, security, corruption, wars, and the elephant in the room is sexual liberation? You need a mental check up.
Although I feel sympathy for these countries I do not see any of them joining the EU, that’s stretching the idea of Europe too far
Изучите историю Армении и старинные карты мира, узнайте как европейские крестоносцы добирались на восток и кто в мире принял христианство первым . В истоках Европы большими буквами написано Армения, жаль , что за 300 лет русские дали позабыть о многом...
No.
The received the resilience fund already
@@annamkhitaryan9470why are you writing in Russian?
Armenia is one of the most central european culture historically, the armenian culture is deeply influential in my country France. Nobody here would refuse them, and they totally fit in the idea people make of Europe
Things may be harder for Azerbaïdjan as it is for Turkiye because of religious and historical matters. But I do not see why you are skeptical about Georgia and Armenia, it is not more strange than having Spain and Estonia sharing a same Parliament
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Guy is talking against Russia throughout all video, it is understandable because of his own politic view, but he literally put the fact aside that without Russia, it would not be Armenia in that territory. Russia has been supporting it militarily, economically more than a century. If Armenia really wants to join EU, it should start to fix problems with neighbours which Pashniyan has been trying to do and reduce dependence from Russia.
@nihadasgerli3947 You interpret and make fake statements about the history of Armenia related to Russia as a KGB agent or as a spokesman for the state propaganda of dictator Aliyev😊.
I did not make any fake statements about Armenia. if "without Russia, it would not be Armenia in that territory" sounds fake to you, I would like to suggest you check modern Armenian history. I am neither KGB agent nor propaganda machine of any state or person. Enjoy your research🙂
"I'm Western European so I can't pronounce your name?" Hé? What nonsense. Since when is there a unified Western European language and set of sounds? The first letter of his last name is exactly how you pronounce "G" in Dutch, a very Western European language
Weatern european use the “Romance” language group 🙂
@Peeoto not only. Norway doesn't, neither does Sweden, Denmark Germany, the Netherlands, UK and Ireland. Do you consider any of those countries not Western Europe?
@@aregginosian4896 I thought we’re talking about western europe.
Not central europe.
@@aregginosian4896 English is technically partly romance. As it is a combination of french and anglo-saxon.
@@aregginosian4896 sweden, denmark, germany are not western Europe according to French education system. So…
Да ты гонишь между Турцией Ираном и Азербайджаном...Европа😅😅😅😅.....Давай и Иран в Ес😂😂
They are in Western Ásia, as well Cyprus, Israel, Turkey, Lebanon, Curdistan, etc
The Caucasus are still considered in Europe.
Russia are in Asia too .
Depends on where you put the line between Europe and Asia. Most people use the caucasus as the line and then follow the shore of the black sea of Turkey till you get to the Bosphorus striate. There is some very interesting video's on it.
@JaegerDreadful Urals Moutains & river, and Caucasus moutains!
@sevakpanosyan2711 Sibéria is in Ásia!
No, that's Asia
It's partly in Europe and Asia.
Armenia has more Democracy than some European countries. And I can name them as I have lived in some and have travelled many European countries! What is Europe Geography? If so then CYPRUS should not be in Europe as it is not in Europe geographically but in Middle East! So stop the Armenophobia
These kind of people in the comments are just trolls, have you ever read a world history? Europe is not only geography, Armenia as an ancient civilasation shares same values as European values, democracy, first state to adopt Christianity as state faith/religion, ( even though I do not think Europe is religion based ) culture, women right and equality, freedom of speech for all even against the government, strong educational vise, freedom to choose and vote your own government, so if you are closed mind I suggest you to do reaserch before writing things it is in Asia, it is West Asia to begin with, it is Eurasia. All the best
Armenia is a genocided nation, what do you know what Armenia had, how far west it existed and was before we were slaughtered? How would you like to have your Europeaness stolen from you?
Georgia Yes, Armenia and Azerbaijan No.
Why
Yaeh why?
What do you mean why. Becuse Armenians and Turks are not European
Who told you you have to be European to make part of the EU?))) Most of EU countries will be dominated by foreign ethnicities within 30-40 years.
As long as they're Christians or even muslim but don't apply islamic law to me they can join
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