Been watching this AVR for awhile but finally made the jump when this deal came out. At $1999 its well beyond anything else on the market at that price.
I switched from Denon to the RZ50 two years ago. Still a huge Denon fan, but the value was tough to beat making the jump to ATMOS. I run it as a processor (though I don't believe I have the preamp only mode in the RZ50). As you say Gene, I wish it was a 6 channel atmos platform. I was nervous jumping from Denon, but I have been surprised. With current pricing, huge value prop.
@@tomhermann6558 Yeah I just got the RZ50 and at $999 on Amazon it’s the best bang for my buck. I’m running the Emotiva XPA DR3 for my front stage but had to use my old Denon to run rear surrounds in order to have rear height speakers connected to the internal amp channels on the Onkyo RZ50. Just seeing if it’s worth the $1k jump in cost to get into the RZ70.
Thank you Gene for posting detailed videos about this Onkyo receiver a couple of weeks ago, here in Perth Western Australia it was on sale at West Coast HiFI stores for $3,748 normally $5,000 , it’s replacing my Onkyo TX-NR708. I am redoing my home theatre room, I wish I Knew, what I know now about 24 years ago when I had my home built, I included a dedicated room for home theatre, I would have gone 500 millimeters larger, and added stud walls to soundproof it, we build double brick exterior and single brick interior walls, I went with 2.5 metre high ceilings, which is 30 courses of brick, instead of the standard 28 courses. Thank you again, I’ve watched a lot of your videos and learn’t some interesting information. Take care, Gary 😊
+1 on the wishlist to remove zones in favor of more processing channels and adding manual PEQ. Would also love the ability to select other speaker options beyond Klipsch (I'm using Polk). Thanks for the great video, Gene!
Please always change the passwords, the receiver might not be interesting in itself, but it might have access to other devices on your network, enabling a hacker to use it as a proxy. The proxy can then be used to attack other things in your network, which eventually might result in access to your computer for example.
Can someone tell me if the Onkyos behave the same way as other AVRs, such as the Denons, when it comes to sound modes and the way they behave with certain codecs? I just set up a Denon x2800 as a former diehard Onkyo fan, and I can't get my head around the way I have to switch sound modes via the remote with every disc I play (if I watch a disc that doesn't make the Denon drop back to the last mode used). I can't stand how you have to switch to a different correct mode for every new piece of content; but is this just the way the new AVRs work now because of the Dolby Surround and DTS Neural upmixers? I'm used to my old Onkyo 605 using Pro Logic II for two channel signals while auto switching for all appropriate surround modes....do the new Onkyos behave this way via the remote as well?
Do you recommend upgrade my Onkyo tx-rz1100 for rz70, my 1st priority is sound quality no extra chanels needed, I already have a OSD amplifier that let me run 7.2.4. Thanks
Dzięki Tobie zdecydowałem się i dziś zapłaciłem za Onkyo rz70 w Niemczech 2500euro.U nas w Polsce to tylko ceny dla bogaczy 3700 dolarów za Onkyo rz70.Naprawdę zarabiamy po 5dolarów na godzinę a za Onkyo rz70 płacimy prawie 2razy tyle co w Ameryce.Fajnie macie😂😂😂
With regard to Speaker Virtualizer - does this affect the Dolby Surround upmixer when both are engaged in a 5.1 system and you play a non-Atmos track? I only have a 5.1 setup with surround speakers in the ceiling above us, but I don't want the upmixers to mess with the normal 5.1 tracks on discs, yet from what I'm told, the upmixers don't engage - even though they light up on the front of the AVR - when it's a 5.1 system, because there's really nothing to "upmix" to. Does the Virtualizer affect this in any way?
Gene, Could you touch on something for me when you have a second? I used to be a diehard Onkyo fan, but lost interest in their AVRs when they made two changes: dropping the "IntelliVolume" input leveling system, and removing the front display's ability to show both the source name and sound mode at the same time. I ended up going with a Denon x2800 because of this to replace our old Onk TX-SR605. I was aware of the "My Input Volume" feature on newer Onkyos, and I thought this was meant to replace IntelliVolume - but I was under the impression that this didn't work the same way as IntelliVolume, instead being used as a way to set individual sources' starting volume. Does My Input Volume actually work like other input level adjustment systems, where you can "boost" or "cut" the input trim, like a power amp's input level control?
Hey Audioholics, i am trying to access this receiver through the web ip but i am only getting a screen to Device Information, Control4, Firmware Update and to adjust some Network settings :/ i am not getting the same screen/Menu as you. can you please help me out what am i doing wrong :/ ?
Have both, running external amplification in both cases. I would say it depends on how much control you need over your subwoofers. Do you need separate sub outs? Do you want Dirac Live Bass control? If the answer is yes to those two questions then get the 70, if not you may be better off with the 50, depending on the amps you use externally.
Comparing the Onkyo TX-RZ70 with Yamaha A6A/A8A, the Yamaha has "Surround AI" which seems to override standard Atmos processing when enabled. Assuming my understanding is correct, does the Onkyo have anything equivalent to "Surround AI" and, if not, is it losing anything as a result. Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am overwhelmed by all the processing options and marketing gobbledegook in modern surround sound processors, This video is extremely helpful BTW. Thanks.
Hello sir Gene, i want this avr rz70 but I'm always thinking/worried about the hdmi board issue/problem of onkyo's avr in the past. I want avr to last at least 10 years or more is better. Any opinion for this rz70? Thank you.
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Has anyone who owns Onkyo Rz70 compared it with Onkyo rz3100 rz3400 class D??? I don't know if the change in my case will be a big plus, I only have 5.2.2. Generally, I'm talking about Xbox SX and Ps5.
If you're going to troll a channel to get your 2 seconds of fame, at least do some basic research first 🤔 before you say something that isn't accurate or really doesn't contribute anything informative to the conversation. If you are so triggered on the price of this product, then buy something that's more in your budget. Wow, what a concept 👏 unless you do it to just crave attention from anyone?
@@Audionut74 oh yeah stop screwing people onkyo junk. Everybody knows that. The worst products you can buy. People pay a lot of money in two years, have to look for Repair look in history onkyo after they star making home theater receivers look on RUclips people used to use hairdryer warm up the chip to get it back to work shut up
Gene, Great review and demo. I had one quick question: Do you know of a site that has all of the previous firmware files for the RZ70? I am reluctant in doing any updates without having a previous firmware file. Thank You
VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION! IF I have a amplifier hooked up to my three fronts let's say two fronts are SVS Towers Tower speakers that can handle 200 Watts how can I get 200 Watts to those speakers when the Onkyo only puts out 140 per Channel 2-channel driven thanks.PLEASE HELP !!!!!
You don't need to match power ratings of a speaker with output power of your amplifier. The Onkyo will deliver 170 watts/ch 2CH driven at 8 ohms and close to 300 watts @ 4ohms which the SVS towers are. You've got plenty of power to drive them well.
@@Audioholics Yes sir but the TXRZ50 doesn't have the correct amount of voltage our power if you will in the pre-out department. I love Onkyo always have however my testing on the pre-outs are not up to the correct voltage for proper amplification.
Gene...about that preamp mode. I'm looking for it in the manual and can't find it. I was wondering if selecting front only turns off the front L/R or is it L/C/R? Would be nice if you could do L/C/R for people that want equal power across the front 3 channels. Otherwise you're stuck with only having a 2 ch for front L/R or needing to externally amplify all your channels if you turn the preouts off. Its probably splitting hairs on whether you'll hear a difference if you leave the preamps all on or turn off the ones needed by still would be nice to have individual control.
Is there a way to just use the internal amps for only the height channels? I have a 7 channel external amp and only need the internals for the .4. This is a deal breaker if not. If preamp mode is set to 2 channel, does that disable every other pre out?
🙄 I have a 20 year old AVR that's connected to the internet so you're kinda late for that argument. Do you only pay with cash and live off grid as well?
AV receivers have been networked for like a decade now. And routers have had LAN web interfaces for multiple decades, still only protected by simple default text passwords to this day. Nothing is ever completely safe, but I don't see how this is any less safe than literally any other networked device of any kind.
I've never had a security issue on my home network adding audio gear using default passwords but feel free to change them in your system if that's a concern.
I wish vlan configuration was easier, and getting streaming to work across vlans with proper cross-vlan multicast wasn't a pain. I've got all my media devices on a separate vlan, but getting chromecast across vlans is something of a pita.
@DavidCNavas DLNA streaming works great. I use minimserver on a laptop and it seems to be rock solid. My old RZ630 could never access all the folders over DLNA servers, but the RZ70 seems to work fine. Never need to leave the Onkyo app or turn on the screen to access and play anything. The Onkyo app can handle Atmos in Amazon Music, now, too. I actually have repurposed my theater's Wiim streamer to the whole-house speakers, because the built-in stuff on the RZ70 works just as well.
I’m just getting tired see people get ripped off, paying too much money for junk in two years or less you be looking for Repair even onkyo they ignore you because you got your money. Send your finger in the mail.
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$1,999.00 whoa
Onkyo is a total different build by Kliptch no more HDmi boards problem
Been watching this AVR for awhile but finally made the jump when this deal came out. At $1999 its well beyond anything else on the market at that price.
I switched from Denon to the RZ50 two years ago. Still a huge Denon fan, but the value was tough to beat making the jump to ATMOS. I run it as a processor (though I don't believe I have the preamp only mode in the RZ50). As you say Gene, I wish it was a 6 channel atmos platform. I was nervous jumping from Denon, but I have been surprised. With current pricing, huge value prop.
@@tomhermann6558 Yeah I just got the RZ50 and at $999 on Amazon it’s the best bang for my buck. I’m running the Emotiva XPA DR3 for my front stage but had to use my old Denon to run rear surrounds in order to have rear height speakers connected to the internal amp channels on the Onkyo RZ50. Just seeing if it’s worth the $1k jump in cost to get into the RZ70.
Thank you Gene for posting detailed videos about this Onkyo receiver a couple of weeks ago, here in Perth Western Australia it was on sale at West Coast HiFI stores for $3,748 normally $5,000 , it’s replacing my Onkyo TX-NR708. I am redoing my home theatre room, I wish I Knew, what I know now about 24 years ago when I had my home built, I included a dedicated room for home theatre, I would have gone 500 millimeters larger, and added stud walls to soundproof it, we build double brick exterior and single brick interior walls, I went with 2.5 metre high ceilings, which is 30 courses of brick, instead of the standard 28 courses.
Thank you again, I’ve watched a lot of your videos and learn’t some interesting information. Take care, Gary 😊
+1 on the wishlist to remove zones in favor of more processing channels and adding manual PEQ. Would also love the ability to select other speaker options beyond Klipsch (I'm using Polk). Thanks for the great video, Gene!
Please always change the passwords, the receiver might not be interesting in itself, but it might have access to other devices on your network, enabling a hacker to use it as a proxy. The proxy can then be used to attack other things in your network, which eventually might result in access to your computer for example.
Thank you for this advice 😊
When can we expect to see your listening review?
Danny's back! See what he says about the Cornwall
Just FYI, the pre-pro mode actually started by Pioneer Elite about 10-12 years ago, they simply never use it as a selling point.
@DavidSusiloUnscripted Yamaha RX-Z7 had it too back in 2009. But, now it's all the rage after I convinced Marantz and Denon to add it 😉
@@Audioholics Pioneer also had web interface way back in 2010, my now ancient (but still working) SC-37 has it.
Can someone tell me if the Onkyos behave the same way as other AVRs, such as the Denons, when it comes to sound modes and the way they behave with certain codecs?
I just set up a Denon x2800 as a former diehard Onkyo fan, and I can't get my head around the way I have to switch sound modes via the remote with every disc I play (if I watch a disc that doesn't make the Denon drop back to the last mode used).
I can't stand how you have to switch to a different correct mode for every new piece of content; but is this just the way the new AVRs work now because of the Dolby Surround and DTS Neural upmixers?
I'm used to my old Onkyo 605 using Pro Logic II for two channel signals while auto switching for all appropriate surround modes....do the new Onkyos behave this way via the remote as well?
Hi there could i add a grafhic equalizer for the front channels for music? thank you
Do you recommend upgrade my Onkyo tx-rz1100 for rz70, my 1st priority is sound quality no extra chanels needed, I already have a OSD amplifier that let me run 7.2.4.
Thanks
Hello, I have the same dilemma, rz1100 vs rz70. I test both at home, rz70 is better mainly because of calibration. What do you think?
Dzięki Tobie zdecydowałem się i dziś zapłaciłem za Onkyo rz70 w Niemczech 2500euro.U nas w Polsce to tylko ceny dla bogaczy 3700 dolarów za Onkyo rz70.Naprawdę zarabiamy po 5dolarów na godzinę a za Onkyo rz70 płacimy prawie 2razy tyle co w Ameryce.Fajnie macie😂😂😂
With regard to Speaker Virtualizer - does this affect the Dolby Surround upmixer when both are engaged in a 5.1 system and you play a non-Atmos track?
I only have a 5.1 setup with surround speakers in the ceiling above us, but I don't want the upmixers to mess with the normal 5.1 tracks on discs, yet from what I'm told, the upmixers don't engage - even though they light up on the front of the AVR - when it's a 5.1 system, because there's really nothing to "upmix" to.
Does the Virtualizer affect this in any way?
Gene,
Could you touch on something for me when you have a second?
I used to be a diehard Onkyo fan, but lost interest in their AVRs when they made two changes: dropping the "IntelliVolume" input leveling system, and removing the front display's ability to show both the source name and sound mode at the same time.
I ended up going with a Denon x2800 because of this to replace our old Onk TX-SR605. I was aware of the "My Input Volume" feature on newer Onkyos, and I thought this was meant to replace IntelliVolume - but I was under the impression that this didn't work the same way as IntelliVolume, instead being used as a way to set individual sources' starting volume.
Does My Input Volume actually work like other input level adjustment systems, where you can "boost" or "cut" the input trim, like a power amp's input level control?
Hey Audioholics, i am trying to access this receiver through the web ip but i am only getting a screen to Device Information, Control4, Firmware Update and to adjust some Network settings :/ i am not getting the same screen/Menu as you. can you please help me out what am i doing wrong :/ ?
I tried using that on a Sony STRAN 1000 it won’t let me send it to the receiver. Maybe can you do a video on that?
Gene, an RZ50 with all channels driven externally, would that give me an experience that rivals the RZ70?
Have both, running external amplification in both cases. I would say it depends on how much control you need over your subwoofers. Do you need separate sub outs? Do you want Dirac Live Bass control? If the answer is yes to those two questions then get the 70, if not you may be better off with the 50, depending on the amps you use externally.
I feel pretty good about how my subs are calibrated with minidsp and can manually adjust if needed. Appreciate the input very much.
I had the rz50 with all channels driven. I still got the rz70 a week ago. Has better dacs and internals.
Thanks!
Comparing the Onkyo TX-RZ70 with Yamaha A6A/A8A, the Yamaha has "Surround AI" which seems to override standard Atmos processing when enabled. Assuming my understanding is correct, does the Onkyo have anything equivalent to "Surround AI" and, if not, is it losing anything as a result.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am overwhelmed by all the processing options and marketing gobbledegook in modern surround sound processors,
This video is extremely helpful BTW. Thanks.
nope ! surround AI works with atmos metadata ! even on mine old yammy 3080 ^)
Hello sir Gene, i want this avr rz70 but I'm always thinking/worried about the hdmi board issue/problem of onkyo's avr in the past. I want avr to last at least 10 years or more is better. Any opinion for this rz70? Thank you.
@marconista5390 based on how this thing is designed, I'm pretty confident it will be a lasting one.
@@Audioholicsthank you sir gene, I'll get this rz70 soon.
Can this process 13.2 channels on the preamp outs
No 11.2 & plus stereo reciever 2Zone.Pionnier &Integra 11.4 plus 2x st. Reciever Zone2& Zone3.
Does this work on the TX-RZ50 as well?
@@haftarun8 yes
on Amazon today is just 1,999 us dollars brand new 😍
@mauriciob8260 Our channel partner Audio Advice has the same sale, offers great customer support, and you support our channel by buying through them using our links.
Has anyone who owns Onkyo Rz70 compared it with Onkyo rz3100 rz3400 class D??? I don't know if the change in my case will be a big plus, I only have 5.2.2. Generally, I'm talking about Xbox SX and Ps5.
Is only$2300 you guys, funny how much you get pay for advertisement for onkyo Stop bullshitting people
@abdelzidan8189 Onkyo has never paid us a dime. This review is costing me money, so stop bullshitting yourself.
If you're going to troll a channel to get your 2 seconds of fame, at least do some basic research first 🤔 before you say something that isn't accurate or really doesn't contribute anything informative to the conversation. If you are so triggered on the price of this product, then buy something that's more in your budget. Wow, what a concept 👏 unless you do it to just crave attention from anyone?
@@Audionut74 oh yeah stop screwing people onkyo junk. Everybody knows that. The worst products you can buy. People pay a lot of money in two years, have to look for Repair look in history onkyo after they star making home theater receivers look on RUclips people used to use hairdryer warm up the chip to get it back to work shut up
@@Audioholics oh yeah, get real job. You sit in your ass on microphone all fucking day.
How does it sound compared to other pre-pros? I can’t wait for the listening test video.😊
I don't even need an AVR, but between your initial review and Audio Advice awesome price,$2000 i want to buy one. Thanks Gene for all your efforts.
It would be great if pioneer or onkyo made a processor like the anthem AVM70.
Gene, Great review and demo. I had one quick question: Do you know of a site that has all of the previous firmware files for the RZ70? I am reluctant in doing any updates without having a previous firmware file. Thank You
I guess I'm in the minority as I like having zones on my Denon. I have zone 2 setup and stream music using HEOS. Planning to add zone 3 soon as well.
For an RZ50 an old amplifier would be a good match? Just saw the HTD you just reviewed on sale.
Does the Onkyo rz50 have online also?
yes
@@Audioholics thank you
VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION! IF I have a amplifier hooked up to my three fronts let's say two fronts are SVS Towers Tower speakers that can handle 200 Watts how can I get 200 Watts to those speakers when the Onkyo only puts out 140 per Channel 2-channel driven thanks.PLEASE HELP !!!!!
You don't need to match power ratings of a speaker with output power of your amplifier. The Onkyo will deliver 170 watts/ch 2CH driven at 8 ohms and close to 300 watts @ 4ohms which the SVS towers are. You've got plenty of power to drive them well.
@@Audioholics Yes sir but the TXRZ50 doesn't have the correct amount of voltage our power if you will in the pre-out department. I love Onkyo always have however my testing on the pre-outs are not up to the correct voltage for proper amplification.
Gene...about that preamp mode. I'm looking for it in the manual and can't find it. I was wondering if selecting front only turns off the front L/R or is it L/C/R? Would be nice if you could do L/C/R for people that want equal power across the front 3 channels. Otherwise you're stuck with only having a 2 ch for front L/R or needing to externally amplify all your channels if you turn the preouts off.
Its probably splitting hairs on whether you'll hear a difference if you leave the preamps all on or turn off the ones needed by still would be nice to have individual control.
@@808lublabs4 I show how to find preamp mode in the video. You can apply it to the front LR channels or ALL channels.
Is there a way to just use the internal amps for only the height channels? I have a 7 channel external amp and only need the internals for the .4. This is a deal breaker if not. If preamp mode is set to 2 channel, does that disable every other pre out?
@@patrickcoonan143 Yes you can use it that way
So now your AV receiver has been added to the list of COMPLETELY INSECURE DEVICES on your personal network. You go.
🙄 I have a 20 year old AVR that's connected to the internet so you're kinda late for that argument. Do you only pay with cash and live off grid as well?
AV receivers have been networked for like a decade now. And routers have had LAN web interfaces for multiple decades, still only protected by simple default text passwords to this day. Nothing is ever completely safe, but I don't see how this is any less safe than literally any other networked device of any kind.
I've never had a security issue on my home network adding audio gear using default passwords but feel free to change them in your system if that's a concern.
I wish vlan configuration was easier, and getting streaming to work across vlans with proper cross-vlan multicast wasn't a pain. I've got all my media devices on a separate vlan, but getting chromecast across vlans is something of a pita.
@DavidCNavas DLNA streaming works great. I use minimserver on a laptop and it seems to be rock solid. My old RZ630 could never access all the folders over DLNA servers, but the RZ70 seems to work fine. Never need to leave the Onkyo app or turn on the screen to access and play anything. The Onkyo app can handle Atmos in Amazon Music, now, too. I actually have repurposed my theater's Wiim streamer to the whole-house speakers, because the built-in stuff on the RZ70 works just as well.
I’m just getting tired see people get ripped off, paying too much money for junk in two years or less you be looking for Repair even onkyo they ignore you because you got your money. Send your finger in the mail.