Update: due to a recent discovery, Pokemon Emerald is no longer required to guarantee the Lati fight, meaning a second GBA/link cable is also not required to do this hunt. I'll be putting out an update video soon detailing how to do this with only one console or game!
@@kidix7 On his 2020 video with the shiny swampert, he stated that the Latias does not reappear after killing it, so theoretically the method isn't repeatable on a single save file
I mainly play with the PS Vita since I am busy nowadays, but I still want to revisit the GBA Pokemon games. Pokemon generations 3 to 5 are my favorites. That's why I still have Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon FireRed. It's a good thing that I got them before COVID-19. The prices for old-school GBA and DS games are going up.
Things I wish I new at a much younger age... who am I kidding, I wouldn't have the patience back then to perform this God tier shiny method. Great video my dude!!
Some really weird stuff happend to me while trying this like a year ego. I used the record exchange to give change the feebas spawning spots from my emerald game to my saphire then when i was hunting for shinies in the battle tower I found a shiny tyranitar with a nickname, it was my own shiny tyranitar from emerald and it was part of the team i used in the battle tower, I found that you when you exchange records you save a version of your last/best run of the battle tower to your other game. Suprised about it and wondering what would happen I died and trigger the roaming lati fight, when I found my pokemon i masterball it but it turned into a bad egg. I dunno why. But hey, it was a pretty wacky experience.
I have been trying this occasionally for a few months now and I recommend using Surf over EQ on Poliwrath. Primarily for Counter Heracross who lives +6 Brick Break. But also for Blaziken and Regirock. You can chip them down safely with a Surf so that even if Poli dies to a crit, Latios or Metagross can hopefully pick them off. So far, my best streak with the team was 325 wins.
Gen 3 was the first Pokémon gen I played excessively. When I was 6 yesrs old I got Pokémon Emerald and fell in love with it. I had hundreds of hours of play time and had my starter and my first Pokémon caught, Blaziken and Linoone, at Level 100. Unfortunately I never encountered a shiny Pokémon, neither in my Emerald nor in my Sapphire version which I got after my Emerald version. And I also always wanted to obtain all those strong high level Battle Tower or Battle Frontier Pokémon and now you're telling me I can actually do that PLUS I can shiny hunt them?? I wanna try this so bad, I just need a link cable and a second Gameboy. But I don't know if I can do this with my old versions, because their internal batteries have run dry and therefore I can't grow the necessary berries because the day night cycle is broken. I really hope that I can pull this off with my old versions regardless. Thank you so much for your videos it was so fun seeing your reaction and learning the setup of this trick. I'm looking forward to future videos of yours. Good luck with your future hunts!
The crazy thing is I got my copy of Emerald at the same age and played the exact same way, only leveling my starter and a Swellow. Thank you so much for the kind comment, it's so nice to know that I might be able to help someone experience that same nostalgia I felt when pulling this off. Just so you know, the only part of this setup that you would need berries for would be if you wanted to change your shiny's EVs without leveling it past 50, so other than that you would be fine doing this with a dead battery. Somewhat related though, it's important to mention that after you've had your ruby/sapphire save file for a year, all time-based events stop working regardless of whether you have a dead battery. Pretty much the only way to fix this glitch is with save data injection or hooking your GBA up to a GameCube running Pokemon Box. This glitch doesn't exist in Emerald though, so you would be fine growing your berries there if your Sapphire save is older than a year. Anyway, back to what you said about being interested in catching the Pokemon from the Tower and Frontier, I feel like I should mention that there's actually two glitches that are very similar to this that you can use to catch Pokemon you normally cannot. One is the Pyramid glitch, and it's way more well-known. You can use save corruption involving the Pomeg berry in Emerald to smuggle in Masterballs and shiny hunt the wild Pokemon you can find in the Battle Pyramid. The only thing is, you will need to keep your console on for the entire duration of the hunt if you choose to do this without a save-file backup device. I'll link the guide here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/15RNkGdAzbalwlzwijt1E8SnnMX9lHM8i and the targets here (there's some pretty insane ones like Charizard, Metagross, and Blastoise): www.pokebip.com/page/jeuxvideo/dossier_shasse/pokedex_shasse/pyramide/zone/paralysie The other glitch has, as far as I know, only been used by Metarkrai M. Using Pomeg save corruption, you can teach your Smeargle a glitched move that will allow access to your bag (and Pokeballs) within the Battle Pike. I plan on making a video on this one eventually, but I'll link the text guide on how to pull this one off here: pastebin.com/2kJpBQCr The targets here are also pretty cool, the most notable one definitely being wild shiny Milotic: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Pike Hope the info helps, I actually just got a shiny Arcanine yesterday using the Pyramid glitch. Best of luck on all of your hunts!
Amazing guide, great work! I like how you went really in-depth with everything while still keeping the whole tutorial pretty quick overall, would love to see more shiny hunting stuff from you : )
Thank you so much for this video!! The instructions are super clear and thorough. This was my first ever gen 3 hunt and it was primarily because of how unique and exciting it was to watch your original video on the Swampert. I ended up getting a shiny Starmie after ~2,700 knock outs. I'll probably do another phase in the future because of how much fun I had with it. :)
A pretty significant update for performing this glitch is that if you lose in the tower (to any pokemon even not the desired pokemon), encounter the roaming lati, mean look and KO it, and the next pokemon comes out and you let it flee, THEN the next time you try the glitch, you can lose to the desired pokemon even if it's in the first party slot. This increases your odds because 3/3 pokemon are available instead of just the 2nd and 3rd! I found out by accidently letting a swampert I wanted flee, and when I tried again in a desperate attempt to salvage the play through, the first enemy pokemon came out instead of the lati (depsite the pokedex location tracking Lati). I've done it twice and both times have been successful. I was suprised the lati was still roaming after being KO'ed lol
I'll make a video showing my update. It's literally doing exactly what Primal Swampert does, but KO Lati and let the subsequent battle tower pokemon flee. So the Lati will be dead and will never come back, but it's still roaming on the map. Go back to the tower and lose to the desired pokemon (even if in the first slot). Now when you hunt for the roaming Lati, the Tower team will appear with no Lati. But beware about using anything but a Masterball because your level 39 or 40 Smeargle probably wont outspeed the higher level, EV-trained pokemon to then use Mean Look and the desired pokemon WILL flee! (But even then nbd, you can go back to the tower and try again)
@@donlyphans7801 hi I have tested what you said to see if it is actually possible to encounter the Pokémon in the first slot of a battle tower fight by doing the following steps: go into a battle tower fight -> lose it -> encounter a Lati@s -> KO the Lati@s and let the subsequent battle tower Pokémon flee -> go back battle tower and fight until a desired first slot Pokémon shows up (could be any first slot Pokémon anyway) -> lose that fight (without killing any Pokémon) -> track the Lati@s using the Pokédex and encounter it, but the result I got was that only the Pokémon in the 2nd and 3rd slots showed up (no Lati@s as expected but also the first slot Pokémon didn't show up). Please lmk if there's any steps that may have been wrong, hence leading to the wrong result. Currently I'm trying to shiny hunt using this glitch and it would be great if it is possible to catch Pokémon in all 3 slots rather than just the 2nd or 3rd!
I just found a completely new found goal to try on my emerald. It’ll take me a little to set this up since I don’t exactly have the team that’s necessary for this hunt. I just pray that I could find a shiny before march of next year so that I can transfer it to Pokémon home. Thanks so much for a tutorial video on this glitch!! Will rather try this than the pomeg battle pyramid hunt (cause there’s NO videos on how to do it)
Glad I could help out! I'm actually trying to get a shiny Arcanine from the battle pyramid at the moment, there's a really in-depth pdf guide by Olig on RUclips that explained everything really well. I really wouldn't recommend setting that one up on your own unless you have a way to back up your save, but it's a really cool hunt if you're interested in these types of "glitched" shinies. Also, Pokemon bank will become free to use in March (we don't know for how long it'll be up after that) so you're safe for now :)
Tip: teach substitute or belly drum to Poliwrath and make sure it has 4n+1 hp. Use substitute, switch out. Repeat a few times until you are really low hp and die to any attacking move despite leftovers. The AI will use a move that KO's you if it has one.
Smart thinkning, the only issue is it also needs Rest+Bulk Up to live against exploding mons, and you definitely couldn't get away with having no attacking moves on one of your mons. Even two is pretty sketch considering EQ and Brick Break are sponged by flying and ghost types respectively. Belly Drum is definitely a reliable way to kill Poli though, I'll definitely look into it for an updated guide!
@@primalswampert1050 yeah I suppose you are right. It is quite bad to have only one attacking type. Maybe you can improve your reliability by replacing leftovers with chesto berry. I think there are too many things in the frontier who are going to be incapable of killing this poliwrath due to leftovers + defense boosts
I just saw your guide I actually had to reference your original video when I found my shiny kingdra in the battle tower I haven’t seen anyone other than you post a video of this sort of hunt. I wasn’t even prepared I got lucky and the first encounter was my roamer I posted the video on it some time last year. This is a panic inducing hunt I wish to try again but the next time prepared
I wonder if it would be possible to trigger something similar to this on Emerald. It wouldn't really be needed because Glitzer Popping, while unreliable, can be used to generate pretty much any pokemon you need, but it would still be interesting to see. Great video, and I look forward to seeing you make more content in the future.
Being a competitive player since 2009 I think pokesav and pkhex ruined shinies for me forever. I used to be so excited to find one and train them despite being garbage, but ever since Pokemon platinum came out, being able to check a box and have the pokemon be shiny simply ruined it's magic for me. I envy you for being this dedicated to get a legit one, and I wished I didn't ruin shinies for me so long ago 🥺
I mean compare the rarity of actual shinys. To none shinys. It's always exhilarating finding one in the wild. Gts definitely did ruine shinys for me as well but it was mainly shiny legendaries. Take for example some people have played pokemon since the 90s an still haven't found a Shiny pokemon in the wild. My best friend has only found 1 shiny an the rest were given to him. Me on the other hand I've found 9 in total with a mixture of Dumb/Badluck mixed in.
@@defianthound407 GTS never ruined anything. Hacking always has existed with gamesharks and the like. Unless you personally obtain the shiny, there was no effort put in to getting it, and it might as well be hacked for what it's worth. It's about the journey of getting it, not about having a different colored pokemon.
I'm with you. I took a 3 generation hiatus from Pokemon because I got fed up with all of the cheaters in the 4th gen era. Seeing people trading hacked or cloned perfect IV Pokemon while I was meticulously breeding mine was disheartening.
Ah that sucks, if you'd want to go for the reclaim I'm currently going on a Battle Pike shiny hunting guide and going for a shiny Breloom myself! In the meantime here's a text document explaining how: pastebin.com/2kJpBQCr
i'm curious to know how the nature is generated using this glitch. it would be cool if you could combine this glitch with some rng manip to get a desired nature and shininess with guaranteed 6 IVs. i know it can also be a fun way to shiny hunt, but maybe it can also enhance an rng abuser's experience because there's no good way to get a desired TID/SID for wild shiny spreads in gen 3.
The battle tower mons follow the same pattern like Method 1 stationary mons. Because the seed is always 5a0 with dry battery you can use Rng manip these mons to be shiny with desired nature. The problem is that the first pokemon is uncatchable and the creation pattern for backup mons are pretty inconsistent so its hard to find the right TID/SID/appearing mon combo.
I believe that the different natures are caused by the seed of R/S being the same every time you start the game with a dry battery. Hypothetically if you were to do this glitch 2 times on the same save file then I bet you would have 2 shinies with the same nature. My guess is that it gives you the first shiny frame available on that seed. You could actually check this by putting your TID and SID into RNGreporter and looking at your shiny frame.
Question, can you get the Latias to respawn? If you knock out legendaries pre-gen 4, I thought they never respawn. So wouldn't you only be able to use the Latias for this glitch once, and then you forego ever catching the Latias? Or will Latias just continue to roam?
@@lyratogepi9989 sadly yes, although if you get your hands on a ds lite/classic and an r4 card (around $30 on Amazon) you can backup and reload your saves to do the hunt multiple times
I have a blue nds with capture card and 3ds xl with capture card im putting on ebay unless you want to make an offer as the blue nds also plays gba games
If the odds of encountering a shiny pokemon in battle tower is same as in the wild, then the chance of a shiny pokemon is 1/8192. But maybe I'm just super unlucky because I've went on a drought where after seeing two shiny (in the first slot so not catchable) in the battle tower, I've not encountered a single shiny for about 5500 trainers (5500*3 = 16500 Pokemon)
This glitch is really cool and thanks for giving a guide! I have a question though: which is the 'better' evs spread for metagross? I'm slight confused because at 2:46 it is listed as 156HP/252Atk/100Spe, but at 7:28 it is listed 120HP/252Atk/136Spe
Is there a reason that you couldnt use a pokemon with shadow tag instead of smeargle? Couldn't you just start battle with Level 39 Wobbuffet and just wait until the Lati kills then switch in Crobat for free?
This would also work and there’s actually an even easier way with an explosion pokemon that outspeeds such as electrode; the Lati won’t try to flee after blowing up because of the way turn order works in gen 3. I’m putting this strategy in my updated guide as I found it to be the easiest that doesn’t require owning emerald
@@Dockvg currently I have stopped shiny hunting using this glitch for a while now, but back in a few months ago I also only encountered (two) shiny at the first slot, and then I haven't encountered any shiny for about 5500 trainers straight after the second shiny!
I haven't understood a single word but hey youtube recommended me the video and I not dissapointed, good job on performing this method I guess 😅 One question though, are shiny odds the same full odds in the battle tower?
Great video! I do have a question though. How important is having high/max EVs and IVs??? Is it possible to do this method without having EV/IV trained pokemon??
The method is possible and works without high-stat Pokemon, but you will find the battles much more difficult and lose far more often if you do not train a competitive team. Luckily, breeding for high IVs isn't really necessary if you would opt to use the Battle Tower Golduck as your damp user. My advice for doing the least amount of effort for the most consistent team would be to reset/breed the gift Beldum until you get one that is adamant with a high attack IV, reset the roaming Lati until you find one that is modest (IVs are glitched so those wouldn't matter, unless you reset the Eon ticket one as its IVs are normal), and catch a 6IV damp golduck from the tower instead of breeding a Poliwrath. EV training can seem a little daunting to understand at first, but it really doesn't take that long for the benefit that you'll get by doing it. There are plenty of guides and online resources for training, but if you have any questions let me know!
Welp, I guess it's time to replay Sapphire xD Though I'll have to make do with only the Pokémon I can find in sapphire as I don't have a link cable For battle tower, I'd have to use Golduck as my Damp user, and I could probably go with a Calm Mind, Resto/chesto set, with a defensive spread; Metagross is solid. And then I need something good that's not a Lati twin, probably a D dance salamence As for catching, I could have two crobats, one at level 40 with maximum speed investment and then a high levelled one, and finally a Wobbufet
Glad you’re gonna give this a shot! I’m making a guide soon on how to do this with only RS, but you’re pretty much right on the money. Instead of a level 40 golbat, you can actually use a level 40 electrode with explosion or self destruct (no speed investment required) and blow up on the Lati. If you don’t kill it you can send in your level 100 Crobat next. If it does kill, just make sure to say “yes” to sending in a new Pokemon both times (it’ll ask you twice, if you say no either time it’ll end the battle). There’s also a way to get a golduck with good stats easier, I’ll go into more details in the guide but putting certain pokeblock colors in the safari zone feeder can actually influence the nature of any wild encounters you get near it! Also one more thing, since the game kinda freaks out when a Pokémon that’s not the roamer can run away, for whatever reason, shadow tag DOES NOT WORK on the Pokémon that are sent in after Lati. Just a heads up!
@@primalswampert1050 thanks for the extra advice. Especially good to know about Shadow Tag quirk, saves me the trouble of training up a useless mon xD Also, I don't know if it's just me, but the thought of exploding against Lati@s just sounds hilarious (especially when it's a one per save file legendary) I'll also have figured out which TMs to use on which Pokémon, especially the ones for Earthquake and Brick Break
You'd need a mean to do a dump of your savefile before you do this. A dumper or if you have a ds/lite with a R4 you can use a program for that. You can also restore the roamer/Legendary/event flag of your save by using a program like pkhex and put it back in your cartridge.
This is erally cool, but I gotta ask; if you have to knock out the roaming legendary, does that mean that in theory, you only get 1 perfect IV shiny Pokemon glitch per save file? As you wouldn't get a chance to take out the roaming legendary again after this
Yep! Only thing is with a dried battery you can't soft-reset shiny hunt, but hunts like this where you leave your system on for more than an hour at a time are fine
I had a question regarding this. I was going to use this method to get version exclusives that I can't get in ruby, lunatone, serviper ect. but if I have to knock out latios, doesn't that mean I can only do this method once per save?
So for what I understand, if the pokemon I want is in slot 1 I can roar him to change the 1st slot with another one so i can catch the one I want after?
Got a question, what if I encountered the lati earlier and got it to low HP. Then I do this glitch and start off with an attack, KO-ing the lati before it can flee? Does that actually work?
Honestly, I don't see why not. The problem would come with the fact that the Pokemon you use for the KO on the Lati would need to be level 40 to guarantee the encounter and still get the outspeed and kill, but then the Battle Tower mon that would get switched in would likely be able to outspeed and run away before you could mean look it. You COULD master ball the shiny as it gets switched in, but this would create issues if the non-shiny is switched in first. This happens if you lose the battle to the other slot non-shiny, which you may need to roar in or might get switched in by the AI. So as of right now, I would say this strategy wouldn't work. (Side note: as I'm typing this, I did come to a realization that if you killed the Lati AND knocked your level 40 lead out with a recoil move, you would theoretically be able to switch in your level 100 Crobat, and mean look whatever comes in to make the catch possible. I do not know if the battle would end upon your lead fainting but I will test this ASAP, because if this is not the case, then you could potentially perform this glitch without a copy of Emerald!)
@@primalswampert1050 Also if recoil isn't possible due to pokemon being healed (I forget if the battle tower heals your entire team or just the battle team), then a fast exploder like Electrode could work.
@@Protofall just tested, knocking out your own level 40 mon with recoil lets you continue the battle, regardless of whether it also kills the Lati or not! This is huge as now Emerald is not required to perform the glitch, thank you so much for commenting I'll definitely put out an update for the guide soon
Great video! I would like to know though, why is the copy of firered or Leafgreen needed? couldn’t this be theoretically done on just one copy of sapphire or ruby? sorry if you explained I listened thru 2x and still don’t understand why the extra games are necessary outside of the game you perform the glitch on.
EDIT: Emerald is required regardless, as Smeargle is unavailable in Ruby/Sapphire and required for reliably trapping the roaming Lati. Thanks! The copy of FRLG is just highly reccomended, as it's the only way to get Poliwrath which is the optimal damp user set with the proper IVs and EVs. You would need Emerald for breeding the Poliwrath, as for one, magma armor/flame body only doubles the hatching speed in Emerald, and additionally, the Everstone only has the 50% chance to pass down the female pokemon/ditto's nature when breeding in Emerald. If you were to go with the alternative strategy involving catching the Battle Tower Golduck to use instead, you would still need Emerald in order to change Golduck's EVs via the EV reduction berry+vitamin strategy I gave an example of in the video. Technically, you could still perform this glitch with only a copy of Ruby or Sapphire using a sub-optimal damp Pokemon, or no damp Pokemon at all, but this creates additional risk in the event of finding an explosion-using shiny.
Oh yeah, and if you were to use the Battle Tower Golduck strategy, you would also need a second game of any kind and a link cable to trade the Golduck over to, because the glitch can only be performed once per save file :)
Can you actually catch latias even if you have already defeated it in battle and performed the glitch correctly and have already caught one of the pokemon from the battle tower.
I'm curious about the first Pokemon being uncatchable. Is it possible that if it's roared out and then one of the back 2 Pokemon are KOd, would the battle, when continued in the wild from the roaming Pokemon, have the two non-KOd Pokemon?
I personally tested this, and whichever Pokemon was sent out first will always be missing from the glitched Lati fight, regardless of whether you roar it out or not
Hey again, I've been messing around this this and I've got a few comments - I completely forgot about shedinja until I saw it. My team isn't the same as yours since I didn't have enough prep time, so metagross didn't have shadow ball, but I did have toxic which was my only answer for shedinja. But both of our teams would lose if Metagross is already dead, which happened often enough in my runs (I led with Meta since my Latios has bad IVs) - For the lv 40 smeargle method, I don't think baton pass is mandatory? In one of my trial runs I used mean look, then switched out to another pokemon and the Lati stayed. I then went to throw a ball and after it broke out, it fled. But I suspect if my new pokemon used mean look, it would have stayed. If so, a fast lv 40 golbat could be an easy to obtain entry pokemon, use mean look (Learn as Zubat lv 36) and pivot to a lv 100 gengar/crobat with mean look. - Set mode isn't required. I forgot about this step and actually had it on Shift and they never fled (Aside from the case I mentioned above). With the lv 40 Electrode/Self-Destruct method it was weird, when I fainted it asked me to switch so I chose Crobat, then it asked me to switch again (???). I said no and it said "Can't Escape". So I guess if I said no to the first one, then it would have fled? - I can't remember if you said, but I tested this and its safe to use the PC box between losing the battle tower and encountering the Lati. I used it to box my lv 50's and pull out my HM slave and more Crobats. Tried it twice and it went fine. - Is there any info on how the game decides what pokemon a battle tower trainer has? I know some of it is floor based (Eg I never see a lati before the 43th battle and I only see Metang on the first few floors), but I just had a run where I won 67 battles and I encountered about 5 Latias-es and 0 Latios-es, which was annoying since a non-shiny perfect IV Latios was my target XD. Fortunately I lost to a (Timid) Latias, so I just gave up and caught it. I'll use it in the next savefile to make my team more reliable. Maybe I'll also Glitzer Pop myself a Soul Dew to make it more reliable.
Hey thanks for following up, to address some of your comments: -Shedinja was never really an issue for me, sweeping with a set-up Lati pretty much always worked out and left Metagross alive on the off-chance there was a shedinja in the back -Baton pass isn't mandatory because of electrode but I had a feeling mean look worked out that way, nice to have that confirmed now though -The set mode thing is interesting, I was relaying something from the thread I went off of when I included that in the guide but set mode effectively doesn't matter as long as you don't hit "no" to the send in a new mon prompt. About the electrode blowing up, that second prompt showing up is basically asking you if you want to run away or not, after you clicked "no" you lost the chance to escape and so the battle continued. As long as you click "yes" using explosion works fine, I made sure to include that in the update video that I'm working on editing atm -Using the PC box is safe, you pretty much just can't get into an encounter or save and quit -Bulbapedia did actually update their page on battle tower trainers, there are certain pokemon that can't be found anymore past a certain winstreak like Metang, and now we have complete data on it so I'll link it below. You did get a little unlucky with not finding a Latios, as my highest winstreaks were several hundred battles and I found plenty of both Latis. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Battle_Tower_Trainers_(Ruby_and_Sapphire) Thanks for checking back in!
@@primalswampert1050 Ah neat, I wasn't aware of that other bulbapedia link. That'll help. Yeah, your lead is most likely to die before the match ends, so it makes sense to put the Shedinja handler in slot 2 or 3. Also re:Electrode method, I discovered if you use a good attack and speed IV/EV electrode with self destruct and the choice band, you can get a guaranteed KO on either Lati with max health. This way you don't need to use the move tutor to learn explosion and is self-contained in Ruby/Sapphire.
@@Protofall the electrode actually doesn’t even need to kill the Lati for the glitch to work, also I forgot to mention but the soul dew has its effect nullified in the battle tower unfortunately
@@primalswampert1050 Ah cool, I just assumed if the Lati was still standing it would attempt to flee.That makes this easier. Weird, I knew the soul dew was banned in future games, didn't realise it was silently nullified in gen 3.
Sorry if I am late to this post If I kill Lati@s then i have to use again Mean Look to the second or the third pokemon so i can catch them? Will they flee if I dont use Mean Look?
What happens if the shiny is in the third slot? Can this still work if you kill the first two and successfully lose to the shiny? Also is the possibility of a shiny appearing based on the battery not being dry?
Thanks for the feedback! In order for this glitch to work, it is important that you lose to your opponent without the shiny knocking itself out. So, effectively, what you need to do is ensure that explosion mons use all of their explosion move PP. Since the moves the AI chooses are completely random, if you have a damp user sent out, the AI has a 1/4 chance to try to use explosion each turn, wasting 1 PP. If an exploding shiny is sent out, you’ll want to immediately switch to your bulky damp user. Count each time the AI tries to use explosion, and after 5 times you can be confident the shiny cannot blow up anymore. Waiting out this process, your damp user will likely take a lot of damage from the exploding shiny’s other moves. This is why it’s important for your damp mon to be very bulky, having a healing move and a defensive setup move to spam. After doing a lot of Pokémon damage calcs, I found that the poliwrath set from this video is the bulkiest damp user available. If you cannot obtain this poliwrath, or don’t have the patience to breed for good IVs/nature/ability, you can catch a 6IV damp golduck from the battle tower (using the same glitch this video covers) as a substitute. The golduck EV spread shown in the video is likely not optimal (and does not account for the random natures of battle tower mons), so if you choose to go through this route let me know so I can provide a more detailed guide on how to do damage calcs. Back to the battle though, after stalling out your opponent’s 5 explosion PP, you’ll want to go through the process of losing the battle normally. Just like if you were to find any shiny in the second slot, your safest way to go about this against a second slot shiny is to switch into your Lati and use roar, as you may still complete the glitch if you lose the battle to the third slot non-shiny. The reason why you wouldn’t want to roar an exploding shiny immediately (as you would with a normal second slot shiny) is because roar always goes last, regardless of speed, giving the exploding shiny a chance to blow up on your Lati. With that in mind, if your damp user dies before stalling out all 5 of the explosion PP, and the exploding shiny is in the second slot, you should switch in your Lati in a last ditch effort to save it by roaring it out. This obviously would not apply if the shiny is in the third slot. I know this is a lot so let me know if you need further clarification :)
@@primalswampert1050 thank you, this was perfect. I will be heading back here when I start hunting this. I'll attempt a 4x setup and it'll be a live shiny I'll upload to this channel! This method of hunting is so unique it deserves much more attention!!
Unfortunately since you need to trade certain Pokémon from emerald, you need two GBAs and a link cable. I’m currently working on a workaround for needing emerald however so I will definitely update this guide if I can figure out how to do it with only one GBA
If you have a means of dumping you could simply use a vbalink like function of emulator to trade between your saves and then put your savefile back in your cartridge afterwards. Do avoid capturing stuff with emulator if you don't want to wreck your PID though (it will be detected as non legit despite not being hacked).
I got some years ago on cartridge a shiny female modest heracross with 14 IVs in all stats. Only 14 because it was from one of the first towers, maybe the second (trainers 8-14). I also found a shiny luvdisc but it fainted before I could lose on purpose. I had Tyranitar in the first slot, I wasn't shiny hunting.
@@primalswampert1050 Well, I did play lots of battle tower to get some 31 IVs Pokémon. Got some nice ones like Registeel, Latias, Wobbuffet. I can't really export the save files on my cartridges, but I can upload photos. I'll try doing that. Can I post the link in the RUclips comments? I also did some shiny hunting with rng manipulation and some Glitzer Popping at the time, and somehow managed to turn my perfect modest Latias into an egg of itself. I tried replicating that with many mons and corruptors, but to no avail. Oh and about that heracross, it's nice that it shiny, but apart from that, it's pretty useless unfortunately. 14 IVs and modest... heh. And lastly, nice videos you make!
@@primalswampert1050 I took the photos, so here's the proof, your honor. :P I included a glitzer popping egg and the mew that came out of it, and those Registeel and Latias I was talking about. There are 15 links. Not knowing whether RUclips likes them, I'll write them in a clever way. "ibb", full stop, "co", slash. After that I'm afraid you'll have to copypaste the following 15 strings of text one by one: ckyB3Qf; PDnvbPW; 2jVXh3j; 0JBCwVC; gVBQsVM; SBdsBDY; b61rpTy; rFNt0rc; 0DmWpZr; kxTXDf2; 9NVZMvj; JkxdHgR; sWJrJ4S; Tv5140v; ck2W8HJ. Fun fact: I did glitzer popping when more or less only Metakrai was talking about it, reading their french pastebin :D I'm from Italy so it wasn't impossibily hard. There were a couple of videos form Chickasaurus as well, I believe, but not about the more complex stuff they did later. With Glitzer I managed to get to Southern Island, get unobtainable items and other easy things, but I never tried Arbitrary Execution Code and the likes. I also RNGed some 30-31 IV (30 for Hidden Power) eggs, but never tried shiny ones.
I didn't understand the Lv40 Smeargle part. Why can't it go further? In the other footage with the Sceptile they have a Lv100 Smeargle and doesn't nullifies the Battle Tower battle. Kinda got lost in that part
The level 40 smeargle at the front of your party guarantees you can do a repel trick to encounter the Lati without finding anything else on the route, because getting into a random wild battle will stop the glitch from working. As I just found out, however, you can use any level 40 Pokémon with self-destruct/explosion that is faster than the Lati to get your crobat in safely, meaning you don’t actually need the smeargle
Update: due to a recent discovery, Pokemon Emerald is no longer required to guarantee the Lati fight, meaning a second GBA/link cable is also not required to do this hunt. I'll be putting out an update video soon detailing how to do this with only one console or game!
HECK YEA! :D
let's goooo
Thanks mate!
Is it possible to do this glitch multiple times ?
@@kidix7 On his 2020 video with the shiny swampert, he stated that the Latias does not reappear after killing it, so theoretically the method isn't repeatable on a single save file
The amount of length players go through to obtain "Legitimate Perfect IV" pokemon is absurd but impressive.
Yeah… to me a shiny doesn't have to be perfect. Just being shiny is good enough to me… it's already boring enough to hunt for one as is.
@@soto9128 What's absurd is that this is still easier than the way the devs intended
Ye it's called autism
I mainly play with the PS Vita since I am busy nowadays, but I still want to revisit the GBA Pokemon games. Pokemon generations 3 to 5 are my favorites. That's why I still have Pokemon Emerald and Pokemon FireRed. It's a good thing that I got them before COVID-19. The prices for old-school GBA and DS games are going up.
@@soto9128 shiny hunting is like meditation for me
Things I wish I new at a much younger age... who am I kidding, I wouldn't have the patience back then to perform this God tier shiny method.
Great video my dude!!
Damm I still don't believe that after playing this game for so many years I never heard about something so impressive. Good job dude!
This is really really cool!! Thank you so much for making this guide, I am definitely going to try this soon!!
Glad I could help out, can't wait to see what shiny you get! (love your content btw)
This guide turned out great - well done! I like a lot of your additions. Will definitely update my team when I do the next BT hunt
Glad I could help out, thank you so much for the footage!
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Some really weird stuff happend to me while trying this like a year ego.
I used the record exchange to give change the feebas spawning spots from my emerald game to my saphire then when i was hunting for shinies in the battle tower I found a shiny tyranitar with a nickname, it was my own shiny tyranitar from emerald and it was part of the team i used in the battle tower, I found that you when you exchange records you save a version of your last/best run of the battle tower to your other game.
Suprised about it and wondering what would happen I died and trigger the roaming lati fight, when I found my pokemon i masterball it but it turned into a bad egg.
I dunno why. But hey, it was a pretty wacky experience.
Likely because it doesn’t share your Trainer ID because it’s from your emerald save.
@@ketaminefanatic7755 that makes sense, thank you ketamine fanatic
Gen 3 continues to amaze me. Thank you for showing me something new and cool in these games like 2 decades later!
I have been trying this occasionally for a few months now and I recommend using Surf over EQ on Poliwrath. Primarily for Counter Heracross who lives +6 Brick Break. But also for Blaziken and Regirock. You can chip them down safely with a Surf so that even if Poli dies to a crit, Latios or Metagross can hopefully pick them off. So far, my best streak with the team was 325 wins.
Gen 3 was the first Pokémon gen I played excessively. When I was 6 yesrs old I got Pokémon Emerald and fell in love with it. I had hundreds of hours of play time and had my starter and my first Pokémon caught, Blaziken and Linoone, at Level 100. Unfortunately I never encountered a shiny Pokémon, neither in my Emerald nor in my Sapphire version which I got after my Emerald version. And I also always wanted to obtain all those strong high level Battle Tower or Battle Frontier Pokémon and now you're telling me I can actually do that PLUS I can shiny hunt them??
I wanna try this so bad, I just need a link cable and a second Gameboy. But I don't know if I can do this with my old versions, because their internal batteries have run dry and therefore I can't grow the necessary berries because the day night cycle is broken.
I really hope that I can pull this off with my old versions regardless.
Thank you so much for your videos it was so fun seeing your reaction and learning the setup of this trick. I'm looking forward to future videos of yours. Good luck with your future hunts!
The crazy thing is I got my copy of Emerald at the same age and played the exact same way, only leveling my starter and a Swellow. Thank you so much for the kind comment, it's so nice to know that I might be able to help someone experience that same nostalgia I felt when pulling this off. Just so you know, the only part of this setup that you would need berries for would be if you wanted to change your shiny's EVs without leveling it past 50, so other than that you would be fine doing this with a dead battery. Somewhat related though, it's important to mention that after you've had your ruby/sapphire save file for a year, all time-based events stop working regardless of whether you have a dead battery. Pretty much the only way to fix this glitch is with save data injection or hooking your GBA up to a GameCube running Pokemon Box. This glitch doesn't exist in Emerald though, so you would be fine growing your berries there if your Sapphire save is older than a year.
Anyway, back to what you said about being interested in catching the Pokemon from the Tower and Frontier, I feel like I should mention that there's actually two glitches that are very similar to this that you can use to catch Pokemon you normally cannot. One is the Pyramid glitch, and it's way more well-known. You can use save corruption involving the Pomeg berry in Emerald to smuggle in Masterballs and shiny hunt the wild Pokemon you can find in the Battle Pyramid. The only thing is, you will need to keep your console on for the entire duration of the hunt if you choose to do this without a save-file backup device. I'll link the guide here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/15RNkGdAzbalwlzwijt1E8SnnMX9lHM8i and the targets here (there's some pretty insane ones like Charizard, Metagross, and Blastoise): www.pokebip.com/page/jeuxvideo/dossier_shasse/pokedex_shasse/pyramide/zone/paralysie
The other glitch has, as far as I know, only been used by Metarkrai M. Using Pomeg save corruption, you can teach your Smeargle a glitched move that will allow access to your bag (and Pokeballs) within the Battle Pike. I plan on making a video on this one eventually, but I'll link the text guide on how to pull this one off here: pastebin.com/2kJpBQCr The targets here are also pretty cool, the most notable one definitely being wild shiny Milotic: bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Battle_Pike
Hope the info helps, I actually just got a shiny Arcanine yesterday using the Pyramid glitch. Best of luck on all of your hunts!
Yo, this is crazy! This is crazy!! I remember when I had to fight a shiny in the Battle Tower back then and I wasn't able to catch it... :0
great stuff i'm excited to try it out after all these years
Eyyyy its astari. Lowkey been thinking the same thing lmao
Really neat guide, thanks for being so in-depth, i look forward to seeing you catch more shinies in this way
I'm never going to do this I don't think but dude your prep section is so well made and helpful I'm almost tempted
Only two videos and both have a reasonably big amount of clicks! Also you seem to have a natural talent for it, you should definitely keep going
Thank you for bringing groundbreaking information to the forefront. This is gonna be replayed a bunch I appreciate this
Amazing guide, great work! I like how you went really in-depth with everything while still keeping the whole tutorial pretty quick overall, would love to see more shiny hunting stuff from you : )
I remember watching your video and just how impressed I was you pulled it off. Its great to see such an easy to follow guide on youtube. Well done!
Thank you so much for this video!! The instructions are super clear and thorough. This was my first ever gen 3 hunt and it was primarily because of how unique and exciting it was to watch your original video on the Swampert. I ended up getting a shiny Starmie after ~2,700 knock outs. I'll probably do another phase in the future because of how much fun I had with it. :)
Congrats on your Starmie and I'm glad I could help!
@@primalswampert1050 The game give and take. I found another shiny at 5,200 encounters but it was a first slot Latias RIP.
A pretty significant update for performing this glitch is that if you lose in the tower (to any pokemon even not the desired pokemon), encounter the roaming lati, mean look and KO it, and the next pokemon comes out and you let it flee, THEN the next time you try the glitch, you can lose to the desired pokemon even if it's in the first party slot. This increases your odds because 3/3 pokemon are available instead of just the 2nd and 3rd!
I found out by accidently letting a swampert I wanted flee, and when I tried again in a desperate attempt to salvage the play through, the first enemy pokemon came out instead of the lati (depsite the pokedex location tracking Lati). I've done it twice and both times have been successful. I was suprised the lati was still roaming after being KO'ed lol
what im so upset i lost a shiny milotic because it was in the first slot can you link more info on this?
I'll make a video showing my update. It's literally doing exactly what Primal Swampert does, but KO Lati and let the subsequent battle tower pokemon flee. So the Lati will be dead and will never come back, but it's still roaming on the map. Go back to the tower and lose to the desired pokemon (even if in the first slot). Now when you hunt for the roaming Lati, the Tower team will appear with no Lati. But beware about using anything but a Masterball because your level 39 or 40 Smeargle probably wont outspeed the higher level, EV-trained pokemon to then use Mean Look and the desired pokemon WILL flee! (But even then nbd, you can go back to the tower and try again)
@@donlyphans7801 hi I have tested what you said to see if it is actually possible to encounter the Pokémon in the first slot of a battle tower fight by doing the following steps: go into a battle tower fight -> lose it -> encounter a Lati@s -> KO the Lati@s and let the subsequent battle tower Pokémon flee -> go back battle tower and fight until a desired first slot Pokémon shows up (could be any first slot Pokémon anyway) -> lose that fight (without killing any Pokémon) -> track the Lati@s using the Pokédex and encounter it, but the result I got was that only the Pokémon in the 2nd and 3rd slots showed up (no Lati@s as expected but also the first slot Pokémon didn't show up). Please lmk if there's any steps that may have been wrong, hence leading to the wrong result. Currently I'm trying to shiny hunt using this glitch and it would be great if it is possible to catch Pokémon in all 3 slots rather than just the 2nd or 3rd!
Nice i need to try this out on my two copies of Sapphire thank you for providing this video
I just found a completely new found goal to try on my emerald. It’ll take me a little to set this up since I don’t exactly have the team that’s necessary for this hunt. I just pray that I could find a shiny before march of next year so that I can transfer it to Pokémon home. Thanks so much for a tutorial video on this glitch!! Will rather try this than the pomeg battle pyramid hunt (cause there’s NO videos on how to do it)
Glad I could help out! I'm actually trying to get a shiny Arcanine from the battle pyramid at the moment, there's a really in-depth pdf guide by Olig on RUclips that explained everything really well. I really wouldn't recommend setting that one up on your own unless you have a way to back up your save, but it's a really cool hunt if you're interested in these types of "glitched" shinies. Also, Pokemon bank will become free to use in March (we don't know for how long it'll be up after that) so you're safe for now :)
can't wait to see the next guide
This is delightfully complicated and I love it (even if I will probably never try it)
Tip: teach substitute or belly drum to Poliwrath and make sure it has 4n+1 hp. Use substitute, switch out. Repeat a few times until you are really low hp and die to any attacking move despite leftovers. The AI will use a move that KO's you if it has one.
Smart thinkning, the only issue is it also needs Rest+Bulk Up to live against exploding mons, and you definitely couldn't get away with having no attacking moves on one of your mons. Even two is pretty sketch considering EQ and Brick Break are sponged by flying and ghost types respectively. Belly Drum is definitely a reliable way to kill Poli though, I'll definitely look into it for an updated guide!
@@primalswampert1050 yeah I suppose you are right. It is quite bad to have only one attacking type. Maybe you can improve your reliability by replacing leftovers with chesto berry. I think there are too many things in the frontier who are going to be incapable of killing this poliwrath due to leftovers + defense boosts
This is so interesting!! I didn't know this was possible in R/S. Great tutorial man you earned a sub and looking forward to your next vids!
This is one of the most fantastic pokemon videos I've ever seen. I love it so much. Thank you so much for making it !!!
I just saw your guide I actually had to reference your original video when I found my shiny kingdra in the battle tower I haven’t seen anyone other than you post a video of this sort of hunt. I wasn’t even prepared I got lucky and the first encounter was my roamer I posted the video on it some time last year. This is a panic inducing hunt I wish to try again but the next time prepared
I wonder if it would be possible to trigger something similar to this on Emerald. It wouldn't really be needed because Glitzer Popping, while unreliable, can be used to generate pretty much any pokemon you need, but it would still be interesting to see. Great video, and I look forward to seeing you make more content in the future.
Awesome video!!
Being a competitive player since 2009 I think pokesav and pkhex ruined shinies for me forever. I used to be so excited to find one and train them despite being garbage, but ever since Pokemon platinum came out, being able to check a box and have the pokemon be shiny simply ruined it's magic for me.
I envy you for being this dedicated to get a legit one, and I wished I didn't ruin shinies for me so long ago 🥺
I mean compare the rarity of actual shinys. To none shinys. It's always exhilarating finding one in the wild. Gts definitely did ruine shinys for me as well but it was mainly shiny legendaries.
Take for example some people have played pokemon since the 90s an still haven't found a Shiny pokemon in the wild. My best friend has only found 1 shiny an the rest were given to him. Me on the other hand I've found 9 in total with a mixture of Dumb/Badluck mixed in.
@@defianthound407 GTS never ruined anything. Hacking always has existed with gamesharks and the like. Unless you personally obtain the shiny, there was no effort put in to getting it, and it might as well be hacked for what it's worth. It's about the journey of getting it, not about having a different colored pokemon.
@@krakenattackin7617 that's just an opinion. Like what I said. Gts ruined shinys for me
I'm with you. I took a 3 generation hiatus from Pokemon because I got fed up with all of the cheaters in the 4th gen era. Seeing people trading hacked or cloned perfect IV Pokemon while I was meticulously breeding mine was disheartening.
@@cruziero15 you know cheating has always been around. It's just that you didn't see it before the GTS.
I'm saving this because I'm stuck with Xurkitree atm but I will try eventually
Awesome title. Also we d love to see your streams!
this is pretty cool
im gonna sub to you, i have been hunting for a sceptile and i got it today ! im so stoked thanks for the video.
That’s sick congrats on your sceptile!
I found a shiny dusclops in the battle pike forever ago and was so mad I couldn’t catch it. It’s such a cool shiny
Ah that sucks, if you'd want to go for the reclaim I'm currently going on a Battle Pike shiny hunting guide and going for a shiny Breloom myself! In the meantime here's a text document explaining how: pastebin.com/2kJpBQCr
TRM - team rocket method
when the hero becomes the villain xD
I can't wait for these games to end up on the switch
Are you kidding, we still find incredible and useful glitches in these versions?!
i'm curious to know how the nature is generated using this glitch. it would be cool if you could combine this glitch with some rng manip to get a desired nature and shininess with guaranteed 6 IVs. i know it can also be a fun way to shiny hunt, but maybe it can also enhance an rng abuser's experience because there's no good way to get a desired TID/SID for wild shiny spreads in gen 3.
The battle tower mons follow the same pattern like Method 1 stationary mons. Because the seed is always 5a0 with dry battery you can use Rng manip these mons to be shiny with desired nature. The problem is that the first pokemon is uncatchable and the creation pattern for backup mons are pretty inconsistent so its hard to find the right TID/SID/appearing mon combo.
@@piupiupiu5779 no use huh. oh well, thanks for the answer though.
the fact that it requires the lati@s battle to work means it can be done only once per save file, right? :/
Sadly yes, but for a 6IV shiny? I’d say it’s worth it
4:04 Choice Band Metagross with Scary Face?
Each Pokémon needs a non-attacking move in case it’s the last one left against a shiny you’re trying to catch, so you’re not forced to kill it
You are such a legend bro come on
I believe that the different natures are caused by the seed of R/S being the same every time you start the game with a dry battery. Hypothetically if you were to do this glitch 2 times on the same save file then I bet you would have 2 shinies with the same nature. My guess is that it gives you the first shiny frame available on that seed. You could actually check this by putting your TID and SID into RNGreporter and looking at your shiny frame.
Question, can you get the Latias to respawn? If you knock out legendaries pre-gen 4, I thought they never respawn. So wouldn't you only be able to use the Latias for this glitch once, and then you forego ever catching the Latias? Or will Latias just continue to roam?
Unfortunately, legendaries do not respawn after knocking them out in gen 3
@@primalswampert1050 Dang, so it's only one hunt per save file? Wow
@@lyratogepi9989 sadly yes, although if you get your hands on a ds lite/classic and an r4 card (around $30 on Amazon) you can backup and reload your saves to do the hunt multiple times
@@primalswampert1050 maybe with the pomeg glitch its possible? reactivating latias/latios´ flag?
yoo, sick thumbnail bro!!!!
This is really cool.
8:30 Is there a good reason to take the 1 in 4 explosion chance instead of just immediately switching into our damp user?
If you’re going to go through the effort of bringing a damp user, you might as well not take the 1/4 risk to lose your shiny unless you have to
I have a blue nds with capture card and 3ds xl with capture card im putting on ebay unless you want to make an offer as the blue nds also plays gba games
I might be interested in the blue nds! Would you mind shooting me an email with the details at primalswampertyt@gmail.com?
holy crap... that was a ton of information to take in.
So when you do this can you no longer catch the lati twin after getting 1 shiny? If so it sounds not worth using vs just normal shiny hunting
the point of this is that its a legit shiny with 6 perfect IVs which is insanely hard otherwise
@@randomshs it could be worth it if u have two game boy advances or sp and two copies of the game. but does this work with emerald though?
@@randomshs If you call using a glitch to get a shiny legit sure.
Dumb question but is it a one time thing? I don't remember if you K.O. the roaming legendary can you can encounter it again after that?
It disappears after doing the glitch unfortunately
@@primalswampert1050 I wasn't sure, thank you!
I'm gonna do the Rocket method right now.
Wish me luck
Thanks for the guide! How many battles do you need to fight on average in the battle tower for a shiny to occur?
If the odds of encountering a shiny pokemon in battle tower is same as in the wild, then the chance of a shiny pokemon is 1/8192. But maybe I'm just super unlucky because I've went on a drought where after seeing two shiny (in the first slot so not catchable) in the battle tower, I've not encountered a single shiny for about 5500 trainers (5500*3 = 16500 Pokemon)
There it is! :)
HECKIN' BASED MY FRIEND THANK YOU
why does it work like that tho, spaghetti code?
No clue I would ask Metarkrai M, I just followed his forum post haha
Youre making me wanna go back to my moms house and try and find my sapphire version
This glitch is really cool and thanks for giving a guide! I have a question though: which is the 'better' evs spread for metagross? I'm slight confused because at 2:46 it is listed as 156HP/252Atk/100Spe, but at 7:28 it is listed 120HP/252Atk/136Spe
Is there a reason that you couldnt use a pokemon with shadow tag instead of smeargle? Couldn't you just start battle with Level 39 Wobbuffet and just wait until the Lati kills then switch in Crobat for free?
This would also work and there’s actually an even easier way with an explosion pokemon that outspeeds such as electrode; the Lati won’t try to flee after blowing up because of the way turn order works in gen 3. I’m putting this strategy in my updated guide as I found it to be the easiest that doesn’t require owning emerald
just found a shiny Milotic, but it was the first pkmn on the party, damn it
another shiny at first slot (Ludicolo) Why so f*cking unlucky????!!
another shiny today, a Raichu, and guess what? AT FIRST SLOT AGAIN!!!
I think my game is broken, I just found the 4th shiny today (a sweet Metagross) AND IT WAS AT FIRST SLOT AGAIN!!!
@@Dockvg currently I have stopped shiny hunting using this glitch for a while now, but back in a few months ago I also only encountered (two) shiny at the first slot, and then I haven't encountered any shiny for about 5500 trainers straight after the second shiny!
I haven't understood a single word but hey youtube recommended me the video and I not dissapointed, good job on performing this method I guess 😅 One question though, are shiny odds the same full odds in the battle tower?
Yep, the full 1/8192
Great video! I do have a question though. How important is having high/max EVs and IVs??? Is it possible to do this method without having EV/IV trained pokemon??
The method is possible and works without high-stat Pokemon, but you will find the battles much more difficult and lose far more often if you do not train a competitive team. Luckily, breeding for high IVs isn't really necessary if you would opt to use the Battle Tower Golduck as your damp user. My advice for doing the least amount of effort for the most consistent team would be to reset/breed the gift Beldum until you get one that is adamant with a high attack IV, reset the roaming Lati until you find one that is modest (IVs are glitched so those wouldn't matter, unless you reset the Eon ticket one as its IVs are normal), and catch a 6IV damp golduck from the tower instead of breeding a Poliwrath. EV training can seem a little daunting to understand at first, but it really doesn't take that long for the benefit that you'll get by doing it. There are plenty of guides and online resources for training, but if you have any questions let me know!
Welp, I guess it's time to replay Sapphire xD
Though I'll have to make do with only the Pokémon I can find in sapphire as I don't have a link cable
For battle tower, I'd have to use Golduck as my Damp user, and I could probably go with a Calm Mind, Resto/chesto set, with a defensive spread; Metagross is solid. And then I need something good that's not a Lati twin, probably a D dance salamence
As for catching, I could have two crobats, one at level 40 with maximum speed investment and then a high levelled one, and finally a Wobbufet
Glad you’re gonna give this a shot! I’m making a guide soon on how to do this with only RS, but you’re pretty much right on the money. Instead of a level 40 golbat, you can actually use a level 40 electrode with explosion or self destruct (no speed investment required) and blow up on the Lati. If you don’t kill it you can send in your level 100 Crobat next. If it does kill, just make sure to say “yes” to sending in a new Pokemon both times (it’ll ask you twice, if you say no either time it’ll end the battle). There’s also a way to get a golduck with good stats easier, I’ll go into more details in the guide but putting certain pokeblock colors in the safari zone feeder can actually influence the nature of any wild encounters you get near it!
Also one more thing, since the game kinda freaks out when a Pokémon that’s not the roamer can run away, for whatever reason, shadow tag DOES NOT WORK on the Pokémon that are sent in after Lati. Just a heads up!
@@primalswampert1050 thanks for the extra advice. Especially good to know about Shadow Tag quirk, saves me the trouble of training up a useless mon xD
Also, I don't know if it's just me, but the thought of exploding against Lati@s just sounds hilarious (especially when it's a one per save file legendary)
I'll also have figured out which TMs to use on which Pokémon, especially the ones for Earthquake and Brick Break
Hi! since I wanted to use the files you uploaded to shiny hunt, wanted to ask how I use sv2 or sa1 files, do I have to convert them to sav?
So cool
Is this only able to be done only one time? You get this shiny instead of a lati twin, right?
Correct
@@primalswampert1050 that's kind of sad x. X
But oki
If you knock out the roaming pokémon, will it respawn? If it won't respawn, then you can only do this once per cartridge or save file, correct?
The roamer disappears so you are correct
9:58
Can't you use acrobatic bike and jump with the B until the roaming poke appears to avoid all these repellents (just need one)?
That works as well
So, you can do this only once per savefile because you have to kill the roaming legendary?
You'd need a mean to do a dump of your savefile before you do this. A dumper or if you have a ds/lite with a R4 you can use a program for that. You can also restore the roamer/Legendary/event flag of your save by using a program like pkhex and put it back in your cartridge.
Only once per save sadly
Hey if you save before catching your shiny, will the glitch still work if you mess it up and softreset?
This is erally cool, but I gotta ask; if you have to knock out the roaming legendary, does that mean that in theory, you only get 1 perfect IV shiny Pokemon glitch per save file? As you wouldn't get a chance to take out the roaming legendary again after this
Yes, sadly this only works once per save and deletes your roaming legendary
Isn’t this just a one time thing because you kill the wild latios
Correct
Does this work even if the battery dried up? I know the Pokemon Emerald cloning glitch still works with a dried up battery.
Yep! Only thing is with a dried battery you can't soft-reset shiny hunt, but hunts like this where you leave your system on for more than an hour at a time are fine
What do you have to do to encounter Latios/Latias again? Is it a glitch? Is it possible to do it the emerald game? Thank you!
1) The Lati disappears after doing this
2) Yes this is a glitch
3) No this doesn't work in Emerald
I had a question regarding this. I was going to use this method to get version exclusives that I can't get in ruby, lunatone, serviper ect. but if I have to knock out latios, doesn't that mean I can only do this method once per save?
Correct
I’m just about to start my first emerald playthrough. Is this only for ruby/Sapphire or can I do it on emerald too
So for what I understand, if the pokemon I want is in slot 1 I can roar him to change the 1st slot with another one so i can catch the one I want after?
Got a question, what if I encountered the lati earlier and got it to low HP. Then I do this glitch and start off with an attack, KO-ing the lati before it can flee? Does that actually work?
Honestly, I don't see why not. The problem would come with the fact that the Pokemon you use for the KO on the Lati would need to be level 40 to guarantee the encounter and still get the outspeed and kill, but then the Battle Tower mon that would get switched in would likely be able to outspeed and run away before you could mean look it. You COULD master ball the shiny as it gets switched in, but this would create issues if the non-shiny is switched in first. This happens if you lose the battle to the other slot non-shiny, which you may need to roar in or might get switched in by the AI. So as of right now, I would say this strategy wouldn't work.
(Side note: as I'm typing this, I did come to a realization that if you killed the Lati AND knocked your level 40 lead out with a recoil move, you would theoretically be able to switch in your level 100 Crobat, and mean look whatever comes in to make the catch possible. I do not know if the battle would end upon your lead fainting but I will test this ASAP, because if this is not the case, then you could potentially perform this glitch without a copy of Emerald!)
@@primalswampert1050 That side note is actually genius. Would also be cool for those who don't have Emerald.
@@primalswampert1050 Also if recoil isn't possible due to pokemon being healed (I forget if the battle tower heals your entire team or just the battle team), then a fast exploder like Electrode could work.
@@Protofall that could also potentially work! I will definitely test on emulator soon
@@Protofall just tested, knocking out your own level 40 mon with recoil lets you continue the battle, regardless of whether it also kills the Lati or not! This is huge as now Emerald is not required to perform the glitch, thank you so much for commenting I'll definitely put out an update for the guide soon
Epic dude
Great video! I would like to know though, why is the copy of firered or Leafgreen needed? couldn’t this be theoretically done on just one copy of sapphire or ruby? sorry if you explained I listened thru 2x and still don’t understand why the extra games are necessary outside of the game you perform the glitch on.
EDIT: Emerald is required regardless, as Smeargle is unavailable in Ruby/Sapphire and required for reliably trapping the roaming Lati.
Thanks! The copy of FRLG is just highly reccomended, as it's the only way to get Poliwrath which is the optimal damp user set with the proper IVs and EVs. You would need Emerald for breeding the Poliwrath, as for one, magma armor/flame body only doubles the hatching speed in Emerald, and additionally, the Everstone only has the 50% chance to pass down the female pokemon/ditto's nature when breeding in Emerald. If you were to go with the alternative strategy involving catching the Battle Tower Golduck to use instead, you would still need Emerald in order to change Golduck's EVs via the EV reduction berry+vitamin strategy I gave an example of in the video. Technically, you could still perform this glitch with only a copy of Ruby or Sapphire using a sub-optimal damp Pokemon, or no damp Pokemon at all, but this creates additional risk in the event of finding an explosion-using shiny.
Oh yeah, and if you were to use the Battle Tower Golduck strategy, you would also need a second game of any kind and a link cable to trade the Golduck over to, because the glitch can only be performed once per save file :)
Can you actually catch latias even if you have already defeated it in battle and performed the glitch correctly and have already caught one of the pokemon from the battle tower.
But wont latias/os be ded forever so u can only catch ONE shiny?
Correct, you can only do this once per save file
I'm curious about the first Pokemon being uncatchable. Is it possible that if it's roared out and then one of the back 2 Pokemon are KOd, would the battle, when continued in the wild from the roaming Pokemon, have the two non-KOd Pokemon?
I personally tested this, and whichever Pokemon was sent out first will always be missing from the glitched Lati fight, regardless of whether you roar it out or not
@@primalswampert1050 That's unfortunate, but is good to know cause I was gonna test it out myself. Guess I'll just get right into hunting then. Tyty~
Hey again, I've been messing around this this and I've got a few comments
- I completely forgot about shedinja until I saw it. My team isn't the same as yours since I didn't have enough prep time, so metagross didn't have shadow ball, but I did have toxic which was my only answer for shedinja. But both of our teams would lose if Metagross is already dead, which happened often enough in my runs (I led with Meta since my Latios has bad IVs)
- For the lv 40 smeargle method, I don't think baton pass is mandatory? In one of my trial runs I used mean look, then switched out to another pokemon and the Lati stayed. I then went to throw a ball and after it broke out, it fled. But I suspect if my new pokemon used mean look, it would have stayed. If so, a fast lv 40 golbat could be an easy to obtain entry pokemon, use mean look (Learn as Zubat lv 36) and pivot to a lv 100 gengar/crobat with mean look.
- Set mode isn't required. I forgot about this step and actually had it on Shift and they never fled (Aside from the case I mentioned above). With the lv 40 Electrode/Self-Destruct method it was weird, when I fainted it asked me to switch so I chose Crobat, then it asked me to switch again (???). I said no and it said "Can't Escape". So I guess if I said no to the first one, then it would have fled?
- I can't remember if you said, but I tested this and its safe to use the PC box between losing the battle tower and encountering the Lati. I used it to box my lv 50's and pull out my HM slave and more Crobats. Tried it twice and it went fine.
- Is there any info on how the game decides what pokemon a battle tower trainer has? I know some of it is floor based (Eg I never see a lati before the 43th battle and I only see Metang on the first few floors), but I just had a run where I won 67 battles and I encountered about 5 Latias-es and 0 Latios-es, which was annoying since a non-shiny perfect IV Latios was my target XD.
Fortunately I lost to a (Timid) Latias, so I just gave up and caught it. I'll use it in the next savefile to make my team more reliable. Maybe I'll also Glitzer Pop myself a Soul Dew to make it more reliable.
Hey thanks for following up, to address some of your comments:
-Shedinja was never really an issue for me, sweeping with a set-up Lati pretty much always worked out and left Metagross alive on the off-chance there was a shedinja in the back
-Baton pass isn't mandatory because of electrode but I had a feeling mean look worked out that way, nice to have that confirmed now though
-The set mode thing is interesting, I was relaying something from the thread I went off of when I included that in the guide but set mode effectively doesn't matter as long as you don't hit "no" to the send in a new mon prompt. About the electrode blowing up, that second prompt showing up is basically asking you if you want to run away or not, after you clicked "no" you lost the chance to escape and so the battle continued. As long as you click "yes" using explosion works fine, I made sure to include that in the update video that I'm working on editing atm
-Using the PC box is safe, you pretty much just can't get into an encounter or save and quit
-Bulbapedia did actually update their page on battle tower trainers, there are certain pokemon that can't be found anymore past a certain winstreak like Metang, and now we have complete data on it so I'll link it below. You did get a little unlucky with not finding a Latios, as my highest winstreaks were several hundred battles and I found plenty of both Latis.
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Battle_Tower_Trainers_(Ruby_and_Sapphire)
Thanks for checking back in!
@@primalswampert1050 Ah neat, I wasn't aware of that other bulbapedia link. That'll help.
Yeah, your lead is most likely to die before the match ends, so it makes sense to put the Shedinja handler in slot 2 or 3.
Also re:Electrode method, I discovered if you use a good attack and speed IV/EV electrode with self destruct and the choice band, you can get a guaranteed KO on either Lati with max health. This way you don't need to use the move tutor to learn explosion and is self-contained in Ruby/Sapphire.
@@Protofall the electrode actually doesn’t even need to kill the Lati for the glitch to work, also I forgot to mention but the soul dew has its effect nullified in the battle tower unfortunately
@@primalswampert1050 Ah cool, I just assumed if the Lati was still standing it would attempt to flee.That makes this easier.
Weird, I knew the soul dew was banned in future games, didn't realise it was silently nullified in gen 3.
I wish I knew this before it's interesting method good thing I didn't kill or catch roamers in my 3rd gen games I might do this one day
make a video with the berry glitch for milotic please
If you defeated the roaming Pokémon to activate the desired Pokémon, doesn’t that mean if can only do this once per save file?
Sadly only once per save file, definitely worth it for a 6IV shiny though haha
so ur telling me u can only do this once per game save file? you have to sacrifice a legendary every time you do this?
Correct, you can do this once per save and the roamer disappears. Pretty worth it for a 6IV shiny tho imo
@@primalswampert1050 ye i been trying to shiny hunt a shiny mudkip starter in emerald and no luck, so you might be onto something.
Maybe I misunderstood, but since you defeat the Lati, can you do this only once?
Correct
I'm assuming the it gets the preset nature that was determined by the Lati@s seed?
Almost feels like setting up for a heist, so team rocket method is an apt name for it.
Sorry if I am late to this post
If I kill Lati@s then i have to use again Mean Look to the second or the third pokemon so i can catch them? Will they flee if I dont use Mean Look?
found this through a random word generator. liked
What happens if the shiny is in the third slot? Can this still work if you kill the first two and successfully lose to the shiny? Also is the possibility of a shiny appearing based on the battery not being dry?
great video! can you go a little bit more in depth on how to deal with explosion mon shinies? thanks. this hunt is pretty sick
Thanks for the feedback! In order for this glitch to work, it is important that you lose to your opponent without the shiny knocking itself out. So, effectively, what you need to do is ensure that explosion mons use all of their explosion move PP. Since the moves the AI chooses are completely random, if you have a damp user sent out, the AI has a 1/4 chance to try to use explosion each turn, wasting 1 PP. If an exploding shiny is sent out, you’ll want to immediately switch to your bulky damp user. Count each time the AI tries to use explosion, and after 5 times you can be confident the shiny cannot blow up anymore. Waiting out this process, your damp user will likely take a lot of damage from the exploding shiny’s other moves. This is why it’s important for your damp mon to be very bulky, having a healing move and a defensive setup move to spam. After doing a lot of Pokémon damage calcs, I found that the poliwrath set from this video is the bulkiest damp user available. If you cannot obtain this poliwrath, or don’t have the patience to breed for good IVs/nature/ability, you can catch a 6IV damp golduck from the battle tower (using the same glitch this video covers) as a substitute. The golduck EV spread shown in the video is likely not optimal (and does not account for the random natures of battle tower mons), so if you choose to go through this route let me know so I can provide a more detailed guide on how to do damage calcs. Back to the battle though, after stalling out your opponent’s 5 explosion PP, you’ll want to go through the process of losing the battle normally. Just like if you were to find any shiny in the second slot, your safest way to go about this against a second slot shiny is to switch into your Lati and use roar, as you may still complete the glitch if you lose the battle to the third slot non-shiny. The reason why you wouldn’t want to roar an exploding shiny immediately (as you would with a normal second slot shiny) is because roar always goes last, regardless of speed, giving the exploding shiny a chance to blow up on your Lati. With that in mind, if your damp user dies before stalling out all 5 of the explosion PP, and the exploding shiny is in the second slot, you should switch in your Lati in a last ditch effort to save it by roaring it out. This obviously would not apply if the shiny is in the third slot. I know this is a lot so let me know if you need further clarification :)
@@primalswampert1050 thank you, this was perfect. I will be heading back here when I start hunting this. I'll attempt a 4x setup and it'll be a live shiny I'll upload to this channel! This method of hunting is so unique it deserves much more attention!!
@@Sleep133 Glad I could help, I'm definitely subbing to see what shiny you pull!
Hi you mentioned needing two game boys is using the ds lite fine as well?
Unfortunately since you need to trade certain Pokémon from emerald, you need two GBAs and a link cable. I’m currently working on a workaround for needing emerald however so I will definitely update this guide if I can figure out how to do it with only one GBA
If you have a means of dumping you could simply use a vbalink like function of emulator to trade between your saves and then put your savefile back in your cartridge afterwards. Do avoid capturing stuff with emulator if you don't want to wreck your PID though (it will be detected as non legit despite not being hacked).
I got some years ago on cartridge a shiny female modest heracross with 14 IVs in all stats. Only 14 because it was from one of the first towers, maybe the second (trainers 8-14). I also found a shiny luvdisc but it fainted before I could lose on purpose. I had Tyranitar in the first slot, I wasn't shiny hunting.
That's pretty awesome that someone managed to catch a shiny this way before me! I'd love to check out the save file if you have a way of exporting it
@@primalswampert1050 Well, I did play lots of battle tower to get some 31 IVs Pokémon. Got some nice ones like Registeel, Latias, Wobbuffet. I can't really export the save files on my cartridges, but I can upload photos. I'll try doing that. Can I post the link in the RUclips comments?
I also did some shiny hunting with rng manipulation and some Glitzer Popping at the time, and somehow managed to turn my perfect modest Latias into an egg of itself. I tried replicating that with many mons and corruptors, but to no avail. Oh and about that heracross, it's nice that it shiny, but apart from that, it's pretty useless unfortunately. 14 IVs and modest... heh.
And lastly, nice videos you make!
@@primalswampert1050 I took the photos, so here's the proof, your honor. :P I included a glitzer popping egg and the mew that came out of it, and those Registeel and Latias I was talking about. There are 15 links. Not knowing whether RUclips likes them, I'll write them in a clever way. "ibb", full stop, "co", slash. After that I'm afraid you'll have to copypaste the following 15 strings of text one by one: ckyB3Qf; PDnvbPW; 2jVXh3j; 0JBCwVC; gVBQsVM; SBdsBDY; b61rpTy; rFNt0rc; 0DmWpZr; kxTXDf2; 9NVZMvj; JkxdHgR; sWJrJ4S; Tv5140v; ck2W8HJ.
Fun fact: I did glitzer popping when more or less only Metakrai was talking about it, reading their french pastebin :D I'm from Italy so it wasn't impossibily hard. There were a couple of videos form Chickasaurus as well, I believe, but not about the more complex stuff they did later.
With Glitzer I managed to get to Southern Island, get unobtainable items and other easy things, but I never tried Arbitrary Execution Code and the likes.
I also RNGed some 30-31 IV (30 for Hidden Power) eggs, but never tried shiny ones.
@@DarkBlazeLeggendaxu sure feel free to post the pics, thank you for the support!
@@primalswampert1050 The links are in my third comment, in this chain.
Are they transferable to the newer generations?
Yep! My swampert is duped and in sword and shield haha
@@primalswampert1050 awesome! Thanks for responding
Does this glitch work with lvl 100’s in battle toeer?
I didn't understand the Lv40 Smeargle part. Why can't it go further? In the other footage with the Sceptile they have a Lv100 Smeargle and doesn't nullifies the Battle Tower battle. Kinda got lost in that part
The level 40 smeargle at the front of your party guarantees you can do a repel trick to encounter the Lati without finding anything else on the route, because getting into a random wild battle will stop the glitch from working. As I just found out, however, you can use any level 40 Pokémon with self-destruct/explosion that is faster than the Lati to get your crobat in safely, meaning you don’t actually need the smeargle