The internet was a good call but I'd say more for us amateur cyclists as we can watch a RUclips video and then learn how to do various maintenance tasks ourselves whereras in past it might have required a costly trip to LBS. I do all my own maintenance and have to say watching videos has been a huge help. Kudos to GCN for these of course.
This is the second time we’ve heard Calvin Jones, the oracle of bike repair, extolling the virtues of the WH-1 in a GCN video. That’s all the convincing I need to order one!
Those two guys are great, they work off each other so well. I've seen the older gentleman in fix-it videos before, and his knowledge and ability to convey it are close to if not legendary. Great show guys!
I have merino jerseys and they are great for transitional seasons and winter to regulate the body temperature and breath well and stay smell free for multiple rides. Those properties makes them perfect for commuting rides as there is a need to reuse without washing. Also my merino jerseys are stretchy and close fitting. Yes they have rougher surface compared to lycra but with such stretchy and close fitting, I do not think the speed penalty is huge.
Best internal routing tools are a brake cable and a spoke with lots of associated techniques. I have a whole pile of Park cable routing kits on my bench that I don't use.
Man, I'd "always wanted" one of those Park Tool wheel holder things, but I just couldn't justify the purchase....until I saw this video. If Calvin says I need one, I need one. Thank you GCN, Park Tool, and Calvin!
As a DIY'er with older gear I'm in agreement with many of the mechanics' insights. Repair stand, Threadless HS, Wheel truing/building stand, etc. I'll add few others: cartridge BB's, "quick links" for chains, the proliferation of stainless spokes and cables over galvanized, etc. Calvin touched on a retrograde development: one piece cockpits. I'd also include the mania for clean lines and internal cable routing, what a PITA. I have to add that I'm ambivalent about the popularity of discs on road bikes: they add complexity and expense with marginal benefits (depending on context).
... changed cycling,* safer shifting* and braking. But correct, integrated shifters (not only Shimano's STI but also Campagnolo's Ergopower and Sram's double tap/Etap) made road cycling so much more enjoyable.
For me #1 has got to be compact geometry, such a simple thing but it did so much. Lighter, stiffer (where it counts), more complaint (where it counts), more responsive, more adjustability, fewer frame sizes (if only we could standardize it across brands!), shorter riders, which includes me and I think fair to say over half of female cyclists, no longer need to drop a wheel size, ride horrible flexy step through "girls frames", suffer from massive toe overlap, or risk playing the "Nutcracker Suite" (or what ever the female equivalent would be) on the top tube. I do like the look of a traditional geo bike though. And #2 (brace for the dog pile) Tubeless tyres, they don't seem to work for everyone, and maybe I've just been lucky, but I ride 20,000 km+ a year road and gravel, several different, tyre, rim, and sealant combos and I just dont get punctures (that I have to deal with) anymore. And if the retro grouches dont already hate me enough, Di2, Hydro Disc brakes, carbon (in general but especially rims), would definitely all be in my top 10.
Thru axels are definitely superior for stiffness. It’s not often mentioned in the rims vs disc debate. We’re not world tour wheel changers, kind of the only downside.
Two more downsides: there's many different thread pitches and sizes making them harder to replace. The other thing is a bigger issue; if you don't insert them properly you might end up destroying your frame and fork.
Thru axles have the disadvantage that they are separate from the wheel and can be lost in transit. Quick release axles don't creak, stay with the wheel, and work brilliantly with rim brakes.
Definitely? ruclips.net/video/KMdsSuXGniU/видео.html They may have benefits for location, but stiffness is a myth, no matter what ever-repeated bro science says.
I remember a bike shop startup in Atlanta GA back in the day that had no work stand. Instead they strung to strap from the rafters with hooks to hang the front & rear of the bike.
Saw that Wheel Holder recently and it looks a pretty amazing solution. Zero chance spending money it though when you could press some metal (or even drill a block of wood!!) to do exactly the same thing.
Greatest bike tech innovations: #1 (by a wide margin) Integrated shift-brake levers #2 clip-less pedals #3 ahead-sets and stems #4 carbon forks (not possible without #3) #5 TPU tubes and (honorable mention, because not for road bikes): hub dynamos.
I know GCN was recently divested of by a deep pockets company, but this is the best quality video that can now be produced? Give that poor intern her iPhone back!
Calvin Jones is like. "The biggest innovation has to be... The wheel. Without the creation of the wheel we wouldn't have bikes." Just kidding. Love this guy. He has single handedly helped me fix everything for the past 7 years. Haven't been in a shop since forever.
WH-2 Wheel Holder is the tool you need after you've covered your clothes in sealant. Sure you could spend a couple of hours making one that sort of works but the WH-2 works really really well.
For me threadless headset is number one. It might not be such a great innovation, it's just threaded headsets were so atrocious. It was so hard to tighten them correctly. And the handlebar mount was not rigid enough, you could turn handlebar separately from your wheel with a little bit of force.
Also, full carbon fork that are not only lighter but provide so much more ride comfort than metal forks, would not be possible without the ahead (threadless) headset, because you can't cut threads into carbon.
An awesome collab between two of the best bike-tech channels on RUclips, though the production value on the GCN side seems a bit low compared to the Park Tool guys (and to nearly all other videos on GCN Tech).
Pedro's Vise Whip 1 & 2, Pedro's Tutto Chain tool 1 & 2. I own a fair few Park Tool tools, but these two from Pedro's run rings round Park's offerings.
I think a great internet innovation would be for a manufacturer of an electronic groupset (like one of those Chinese brands) open source all their software for the control of their electronic derailleurs. The users and other developers could then modify the source code to make improvements and extend compatibility. The manufacturer could then take improvements made by the community of users and more rapidly incorporate them into the application for their product and there would be no security issue as you'd only download the software you want. Same could be done for some computers as well. This would really shake up things for the big manufacturers and possibly even reduce prices for consumers.
I am surprised that a media company like PlaySports struggles so much with audio and video issues in studio shoots. Their outdoors stuff is so much better in both audio and video. What's the issue? Other indoor RUclips channels have no problems like these, even little one-person channels.
One question I’ve been dying to ask - do I need to reduce the torque value for a greased bolt? There seems to be so much contention on whether or not torque values are adjusted for grease (particularly when the installation manual tells you to grease it).
As a new cyclist with a cheap used first bike, I’ve actually had much use of Chat GPT to discuss upgrades and such. And just asking about terms or things I don’t grok.
I'm curious about those Park Tool branded pegboards. I've looked and I can't find them for sale on Park's website, are they even available? Every youtube bike channel seems to have them.
Probably because Alex says that they’ll see them at EUROBIKE, which takes place in Frankfurt. I’m guessing that Calvin & co. don’t visit German-speaking places often, so hearing EUROBIKE might make them think particularly about hearing lots of German and using some basic tourist phrases.
Integrated cockpits are nothing more than a conspiracy by the bikelluminati to sell more cable routing kits. Funny to think how normalized things like a bikestand are at this point, even for a home mechanic. It makes working on or cleaning the bike 100x easier than without.
As much as I respect Calvin Jones...this should be marked as a paid promotion for Park Tool? As a mechanic I get where he's coming from with thru-axle but as a bike user the things are a PITA! Old-school bike stands/roof racks are obsolete, bikes almost have to be transported with both wheels on (and if you don't you risk bent brake rotors) and too few standardize the things so (unlike the old daze) any wheel can be fit onto any bike. I feel sorry for the neutral support guys at races...how many variations do they have to carry around these daze?
I do want to wear wool again. There's so much plastic already, and recycled plastic is only a partial band aid instead of a real solution. I'm thinking of trying to find my next jerseys in wool at least.
What’s up with your audio? It’s like your normal studio was being used, so you and Oli grabbed a tool peg board and leant them against the wall in the toilet 😂. Im glad no one flushed, mid interval.
If have an old one (no meters) and its out of alignment from the factory so i have to put masking tape on one side to get the wheel centered but it was only $65 20y ago (new).
@@dgillies5420 A little late here but you could call up your lbs to ask if they have the alignment tool for the TS series. You could probably arrange to take your TS in there and for a nominal fee they could tune it up. It's possible it was out of alignment when it left the factory, but there's also a number of user-introduced ways for them to get out of whack. Unless you're good with the tape method.👍
Calvin Jones is a legend
definitely
His mustache is a legend on its own
Truly!
Sometimes I think the internet was a mistake. Then I remember Calvin Jones and I'm reassured that it wasn't.
He's the real deal.
Ollie hungover and Alex sunburnt. Looks like a typical Sunday!
and proper cyclist sunburn too!
The Park guys were thrown a softball to plug their products and instead they plugged what was really useful. Kudos to them.
These guys were really thoughtful. They gave answers you’d not expect, but were obvious when said.
That’s how you know you’re talking to someone who knows their stuff
The internet was a good call but I'd say more for us amateur cyclists as we can watch a RUclips video and then learn how to do various maintenance tasks ourselves whereras in past it might have required a costly trip to LBS. I do all my own maintenance and have to say watching videos has been a huge help. Kudos to GCN for these of course.
Loving the Park Tool MS-1 mic stand featured by Calvin, along with the matching blue WS-1B windshield 😏
You know it!
This is the second time we’ve heard Calvin Jones, the oracle of bike repair, extolling the virtues of the WH-1 in a GCN video. That’s all the convincing I need to order one!
Seth from Bern Peak also talked about how he wasn't expecting WH-1 to be very useful, but it turned out to become one of his favorite tools.
Just ordered one myself!
6:03 hahaha Alex walked right into that 😂
I love the mic holder 😎
Nothing beats finding an unexpected use for tools.
Wooo! Calvin! The Legend!
What about quick-links?
Those two guys are great, they work off each other so well. I've seen the older gentleman in fix-it videos before, and his knowledge and ability to convey it are close to if not legendary. Great show guys!
Calvin Jones is legend
I like to ride in merino wool jerseys in autumn and winter. Warmer and way less smelly than lycra.
I prefer polar fleece.
But is it close-fitting for aero or loose? 🤓
I have merino jerseys and they are great for transitional seasons and winter to regulate the body temperature and breath well and stay smell free for multiple rides. Those properties makes them perfect for commuting rides as there is a need to reuse without washing. Also my merino jerseys are stretchy and close fitting. Yes they have rougher surface compared to lycra but with such stretchy and close fitting, I do not think the speed penalty is huge.
Best internal routing tools are a brake cable and a spoke with lots of associated techniques. I have a whole pile of Park cable routing kits on my bench that I don't use.
Ollie looks hungover in this video, haha.
They said that he caught a cold. It looks to me like he needs some bed rest and a hearty soup.
He looks terrible.
@@klarkolofsson Ollie drank a whole pint of chain wax, naughty boy 😏
The makeup department did a terrible job.
He’s on the mend and enjoying some hearty soup right now. Thanks for the concern!
Man, I'd "always wanted" one of those Park Tool wheel holder things, but I just couldn't justify the purchase....until I saw this video. If Calvin says I need one, I need one. Thank you GCN, Park Tool, and Calvin!
As a DIY'er with older gear I'm in agreement with many of the mechanics' insights. Repair stand, Threadless HS, Wheel truing/building stand, etc. I'll add few others: cartridge BB's, "quick links" for chains, the proliferation of stainless spokes and cables over galvanized, etc. Calvin touched on a retrograde development: one piece cockpits. I'd also include the mania for clean lines and internal cable routing, what a PITA. I have to add that I'm ambivalent about the popularity of discs on road bikes: they add complexity and expense with marginal benefits (depending on context).
Love Calvin. The perspective and knowledge he always brings - in an informative and entertaining way. More, please!
Calvin flexing, highlight of the weekend. Great video.
Calvin always reminds me of Frank Zappa🎉
Just had to put that out there
To me sti levers changed cycling safer changing and braking
... changed cycling,* safer shifting* and braking. But correct, integrated shifters (not only Shimano's STI but also Campagnolo's Ergopower and Sram's double tap/Etap) made road cycling so much more enjoyable.
Why weren't Ollie and Bob mic'd up? They sounded so much worse than Calvin and Truman.
Also, there's something satisfying about seeing a screw fit perfectly into a slot
@@gcntech What?
True! But who is BoB?!
That google search history is insane.
Love these pro mechanics and the info they provide! Hope Ollie feels better soon!
That laptop almost falling from the table was making me nervous 😨
That was triggering my OCD so much I had to look away 😅
We hadn't noticed 🤣
@@gcntech Monsters. It was killing me every time it came on screen.
For me #1 has got to be compact geometry, such a simple thing but it did so much. Lighter, stiffer (where it counts), more complaint (where it counts), more responsive, more adjustability, fewer frame sizes (if only we could standardize it across brands!), shorter riders, which includes me and I think fair to say over half of female cyclists, no longer need to drop a wheel size, ride horrible flexy step through "girls frames", suffer from massive toe overlap, or risk playing the "Nutcracker Suite" (or what ever the female equivalent would be) on the top tube.
I do like the look of a traditional geo bike though.
And #2 (brace for the dog pile) Tubeless tyres, they don't seem to work for everyone, and maybe I've just been lucky, but I ride 20,000 km+ a year road and gravel, several different, tyre, rim, and sealant combos and I just dont get punctures (that I have to deal with) anymore.
And if the retro grouches dont already hate me enough, Di2, Hydro Disc brakes, carbon (in general but especially rims), would definitely all be in my top 10.
Well said
Thru axels are definitely superior for stiffness. It’s not often mentioned in the rims vs disc debate. We’re not world tour wheel changers, kind of the only downside.
Two more downsides: there's many different thread pitches and sizes making them harder to replace. The other thing is a bigger issue; if you don't insert them properly you might end up destroying your frame and fork.
@@klarkolofssonhow are you gonna damage your frame/fork?
Thru axles have the disadvantage that they are separate from the wheel and can be lost in transit. Quick release axles don't creak, stay with the wheel, and work brilliantly with rim brakes.
@@drooghead You reattach them onto the frame anyway. Provides the lateral rigidity for moving, too
Definitely? ruclips.net/video/KMdsSuXGniU/видео.html
They may have benefits for location, but stiffness is a myth, no matter what ever-repeated bro science says.
These guys are great. Please ask them to do more videos.
I remember a bike shop startup in Atlanta GA back in the day that had no work stand. Instead they strung to strap from the rafters with hooks to hang the front & rear of the bike.
I'd add thread locking compounds. I have 5 different formulations in my shop for various purposes.
Love the cadence between the two dudes from Park Tool. Hope to see them again!
I would love to have that WH-1 wheel holder, but at $130, it's just a bit too spendy for my budget. But a must-have if you have a shop!
Saw that Wheel Holder recently and it looks a pretty amazing solution. Zero chance spending money it though when you could press some metal (or even drill a block of wood!!) to do exactly the same thing.
Greatest bike tech innovations: #1 (by a wide margin) Integrated shift-brake levers #2 clip-less pedals #3 ahead-sets and stems #4 carbon forks (not possible without #3) #5 TPU tubes and (honorable mention, because not for road bikes): hub dynamos.
The GCN Audio 😟
The thread thru BB is more of a innovation they you say. I still use it to fix issues on PF30 frames. It’s so good.
Thank you for your efforts!
I like this, Ollie and Alex as the final word and peanut gallery. 😀
Protect Calvin at all costs.
Love the wheel buddy. Makes life so much easier
I know GCN was recently divested of by a deep pockets company, but this is the best quality video that can now be produced? Give that poor intern her iPhone back!
Calvin Jones is like. "The biggest innovation has to be... The wheel. Without the creation of the wheel we wouldn't have bikes." Just kidding. Love this guy.
He has single handedly helped me fix everything for the past 7 years. Haven't been in a shop since forever.
3:22 - Thru-axle on bmx for decades, rim brakes always until late. Just now starting to do disc. Prefer v brake with a 15 or 20 mm thru.
My wheel buddy is my stomach and any surface 😂
WH-2 Wheel Holder is the tool you need after you've covered your clothes in sealant. Sure you could spend a couple of hours making one that sort of works but the WH-2 works really really well.
For me threadless headset is number one. It might not be such a great innovation, it's just threaded headsets were so atrocious. It was so hard to tighten them correctly. And the handlebar mount was not rigid enough, you could turn handlebar separately from your wheel with a little bit of force.
I totally disagree
Totally agree 👍
Also, full carbon fork that are not only lighter but provide so much more ride comfort than metal forks, would not be possible without the ahead (threadless) headset, because you can't cut threads into carbon.
they look great tho
An awesome collab between two of the best bike-tech channels on RUclips, though the production value on the GCN side seems a bit low compared to the Park Tool guys (and to nearly all other videos on GCN Tech).
SIS, shifters in the brake levers, aero bars, toe clips and straps on pedals, freewheels and derailleurs have to be the best innovations in cycling
Screw internal routing, although it did get me to have a custom Ti frame with external routing last year.
Calvin Jones is my team mechanic 😂
Pedro's Vise Whip 1 & 2, Pedro's Tutto Chain tool 1 & 2. I own a fair few Park Tool tools, but these two from Pedro's run rings round Park's offerings.
This is probably the most expensive (and most ingenious) microphone holder of all time!
Campy used the same tool for cassette and BB
You got the park too handout of free stuff guy on your show. Lol. Awesome
What a collabs🎉
Nice Park Tool advert!
Zoom calls are invariably awkward and unnatural, no matter how much practice people have.
I think a great internet innovation would be for a manufacturer of an electronic groupset (like one of those Chinese brands) open source all their software for the control of their electronic derailleurs. The users and other developers could then modify the source code to make improvements and extend compatibility. The manufacturer could then take improvements made by the community of users and more rapidly incorporate them into the application for their product and there would be no security issue as you'd only download the software you want. Same could be done for some computers as well. This would really shake up things for the big manufacturers and possibly even reduce prices for consumers.
...i still looove my threaded headsets tbh
No one mentioned clip-less pedals???
Apparently, not in the top 10.
@@gcntech Well obviously. Why it was left out is dumbfounding. I realize this is mostly a Park Tools ad but still….
Clicked so fast when I saw Calvin
I want a ‘Tash like Calvin
... 'stache*
Ollie looks wrecked.
He was, but he’s currently in recovery
Ollie and Alex, the popcorn gallery. 😀
2025 here, I'm happy to announce the new TS-4.4 truing stand, finally a truing stand that "works with everything".
Ollie with his classic school playground jokes 😂
Calvin in the thumbnail? I'm watching.
Informative video.
However, sad audio quality, GCN. I'm certain you have better microphones than that.
Take 5 minutes and hook one up, wil you?
I am surprised that a media company like PlaySports struggles so much with audio and video issues in studio shoots. Their outdoors stuff is so much better in both audio and video. What's the issue? Other indoor RUclips channels have no problems like these, even little one-person channels.
One question I’ve been dying to ask - do I need to reduce the torque value for a greased bolt?
There seems to be so much contention on whether or not torque values are adjusted for grease (particularly when the installation manual tells you to grease it).
As a new cyclist with a cheap used first bike, I’ve actually had much use of Chat GPT to discuss upgrades and such. And just asking about terms or things I don’t grok.
I'm curious about those Park Tool branded pegboards. I've looked and I can't find them for sale on Park's website, are they even available? Every youtube bike channel seems to have them.
The online shop function is only available in the U.S version of the website.
@@yonglingng5640 But do you see the product listed? I didn't.
Legend
I don't know why Calvin said WIEDERSEHEN in the end but that made my day :D (German for see ya)
rather German for "good buy"/see you".
@@einundsiebenziger5488 massive difference between see ya and see you I suppose.
Probably because Alex says that they’ll see them at EUROBIKE, which takes place in Frankfurt. I’m guessing that Calvin & co. don’t visit German-speaking places often, so hearing EUROBIKE might make them think particularly about hearing lots of German and using some basic tourist phrases.
This is a great and informative video, but why are you balancing the macbook off the edge of the table?
where else would you put it?
@@winterwatson6437 Fully on the table...
Best company in all of cycling.
Thought id love this, but this video was just awkward, sorry.
How long has the bike stand been around? Is it a recent invention? What were they using before the bike stand?
I have a Park stand that is close to 30 years old; it still works like new.
CJ & Mo-ustache 💪💪
Integrated cockpits are nothing more than a conspiracy by the bikelluminati to sell more cable routing kits.
Funny to think how normalized things like a bikestand are at this point, even for a home mechanic. It makes working on or cleaning the bike 100x easier than without.
As much as I respect Calvin Jones...this should be marked as a paid promotion for Park Tool?
As a mechanic I get where he's coming from with thru-axle but as a bike user the things are a PITA! Old-school bike stands/roof racks are obsolete, bikes almost have to be transported with both wheels on (and if you don't you risk bent brake rotors) and too few standardize the things so (unlike the old daze) any wheel can be fit onto any bike. I feel sorry for the neutral support guys at races...how many variations do they have to carry around these daze?
Calvin and Truman are Top Bike Innovations...
Calvin the Foot.
But repair stands are like a 1970s invention are you talking about portable tripod ones?
The longer the video went on without mention of aero or waxed chains the less interested Ollie looked 😂
Ollie drops a perfectly timed "that's what she said." Brilliant.
I don't think Ollie is hungover , I think he is still pissed
"She said that" XD
love the simplicity of rim brakes and quick release.
Good for you. I don't. Give me disc's any day of the week and twice and Sunday, and through axles make life easier.
What about hydraulic brakes? Definitely, these changed the way people cycling today
I'm suddenly very worried about sloth fever.
I do want to wear wool again. There's so much plastic already, and recycled plastic is only a partial band aid instead of a real solution.
I'm thinking of trying to find my next jerseys in wool at least.
that's what she said went over their heads Ollie
Internal cable routing tools are an engineering solution to a problem caused by marketing. Such problems need not exist.
Imagine Torque/Turning Moment labels being in pounds per square inch instead of Newton-Meters 😂
I found a conversion table online, printed it, and taped it to the shelf on my workbench.
Quick links, man.
What’s up with your audio? It’s like your normal studio was being used, so you and Oli grabbed a tool peg board and leant them against the wall in the toilet 😂. Im glad no one flushed, mid interval.
Too much blush on this video Alex!!!
Sorry, I think the park wheel truing jig is crap!
If have an old one (no meters) and its out of alignment from the factory so i have to put masking tape on one side to get the wheel centered but it was only $65 20y ago (new).
@@dgillies5420 A little late here but you could call up your lbs to ask if they have the alignment tool for the TS series. You could probably arrange to take your TS in there and for a nominal fee they could tune it up. It's possible it was out of alignment when it left the factory, but there's also a number of user-introduced ways for them to get out of whack. Unless you're good with the tape method.👍
Because I notice these things; why were you googling 'sloth fever virus’? 😮
Hydraulic brakes
Berd spokes