With repeated use; does the grinder “walk” at all on the counter top? Does the portafilter ever walk off the forks? Can you use a naked portafilter? If yes, does it ever walk off during grinding? How messy is it? Does it spit any grinds on the counter top? I notice you didn’t test that. Im not impressed with the fasteners (screws) used. Everyone could learn from the ECM espresso machines (all stainless metric Allen bolts of the same size. (No screws. No Philips heads …; especially that fork adjustment…) Does it fault at all ever ? Like no start; or not zero properly? If it does spit on the counter occasionally; could it be used with an attached magnetic style dosing funnel? Or it really doesn’t need it? Thanks for the introductory review!
Drooling at these. Not having to weight before grinding is such a time saver. I have the mignon oro and I'm pretty happy with it but I'm considering replacing it. Initially I was considering the mignon zero but maybe I save more for one of these 😊
Great video and well timed for my google search to watch a review. I think I’ll be buying this over the e65s gbw which just seems a bit overkill for home use.
Was looking at buying either the 65W or the 75W! Great professional video and right on time. These look build like a tank. I noticed that the speed and sound does not differ that much between the two. Amazing that you included those measurements. I only make 4-6 shots a day. Why should I upgrade to the 75W over the 65W? Does the bigger burr size really make a difference in the cup? Does it have a better flavour profile?
Hi there. I did not find any life-altering difference in the cup between these two grinders. The larger burr set is going to mostly just make a difference in grind speed and will also technically have a longer life span. --BRYAN
I'd go with the W65 for home use. I just got the W75, and I think it's overkill. About 5 seconds for a 18.8g dose. I would think the W65 would also be faster than my Mazzer Mini E (12 seconds), and the shorter size of the W65 would actually fit under my kitchen cabinets.
I like the noise of the Atoms a lot but one thing I am missing at this grinder is the possibility to fast switch between filter and espresso setting. With the Mahlkönig GBW I can just jump quickly between them but with Eureka I need to act like "5 turns right, 5 turns left" right?
Please answer my question: What hooper did you use on the atoms? is that a regular 300 gram from the previous generation? will 60 atom 300 gram hooper attach too ? please !
Thanks for the review. I was wondering for the distance between the upper and bottom part of the fork. Can the bottom part of the fork can be moved down for about 50 mm? I saw 4 phillips head screws in the middle of the fork. What's their purpose? Is it possible the top part of the fork to be moved up? I'm asking because I use a La marzocco 7 g. basket that needs a funnel for smooth coffee distribution and tamping with a 41 mm tamper.
Hi there. You are correct in your assumptions. The difference in taste between the W65 and the W75 would be negligible. The main differences would be in grind speed and overall performance. --BRYAN
😢 I literally just got the Atom Excellence 65! It only grinds by timer! The price difference was only 300 between EX and the W version. I guess I will just need to buy a single dose bellow and weight the beans on scale….
I just bought the X65 as well. The Libra GBW was having some issues at the store. Not sure I wanted a built in scale that could be problematic. Wonder why they gave grind by time as an option with these grinders if the grind by weight works perfectly?
@@3rd-Wave_RebelI'll get the EX65 dialed in with my scale and then just weight doses once a week to be sure it is still close. A bigger issue with all of them is the dial creep I have heard of from the torque of the 75 motor.
@@briansmith2624The W version is over 3 grand where I lived and whereas the Excellence series is under 2k. I bought mine with 15% discount, it comes to 1621.32!
Does it still jerk on the counter like some of the previous versions of the 75 or is it pretty stable? Also do you know if it’s the same hopper lid as the previous Atom 75? (There are some folks that make custom wood lids and wondering if they’re the same fit/size). Thanks!
Hi there. In my experience with the grinder, it does not shift at all during operation. The "short hopper" on the old Atom 75 is the same hopper as these new models. --BRYAN
In a day and age where higher end grinders have tool-less access to the internals for cleaning, Eureka continues with it's three-different-tools requirement to do the same. The video doesn't even show cleaning access to the grind chute and de-clumper. While their grind by weight feature and grinding capability appear state of the art for the price range, these grinders fall behind the competition when you consider maintenance. And why is there no discussion in the video about the burrs?
@@rohanlg790 Different burrs produce different flavour profiles and/or are better suited for different brew methods. (For example, what about pour overs?) Nothing was said in the video what the Eureka burrs offer. They also didn't indicate whether the burrs can be changed with different ones (I suspect not, but don't know for certain). Cheaper grinders than these Eurekas offer these features.
I own a W 65. Nice grinder for demanding users, be it home-baristas or professional users. Unfortunately it is nearly impossible to keep your counter clean. If you grind more than 15 grams, it will get messy. I bought the Eureka funnel but that one doesn't fit (too high). That's 37 euros down the drain. If someone has another solution, please let me know.
Like you I also grind more than 15 and there's lot of mess! BUT I have a solution for you to try: 1)Take a dosing ring and put it on the portafilter after you insert it to the machine, put it on the other side of the portafilter and lift it up a bit so the grind can proccess while the ring sits there. 2)Take a dosing ring and cut it in exactly half so it could attach to the second side of the portafilter 3)Use a dosing cup 4)Order from Etsy a ring and ask the supplier to create 50% dosing ring instead.
I've been using my new W75 for a couple days, and I have almost zero mess. I grind to 18.8g, and it's not messy at all. Unfortunately the gbw feature is not very consistent so far, and I think the W65 is a better value for home use .
Would it be possible to compare it against Eureka Mignon Libra?
Awesome work reviewing these grinders. Thanks !
No problem 👍
I like these. I also like using tools to open them. Feels hands on.
Amazing grinder, I had Atom Spec 65 and really love it cause to it silent and less retaintion ❤
Hi sd, Thanks for the comment!
Very good looking. Ohh,and the grinder looks nice too 😊
Superb review, thanks a lot !!
Glad you liked it!
I hope there’s a comparison of this and Fiorenzato sense
For me i prefer the atom way much
Grind by weight it is definitely the way to go, these both look really good....
With repeated use; does the grinder “walk” at all on the counter top?
Does the portafilter ever walk off the forks?
Can you use a naked portafilter? If yes, does it ever walk off during grinding?
How messy is it? Does it spit any grinds on the counter top? I notice you didn’t test that.
Im not impressed with the fasteners (screws) used. Everyone could learn from the ECM espresso machines (all stainless metric Allen bolts of the same size. (No screws. No Philips heads …; especially that fork adjustment…)
Does it fault at all ever ? Like no start; or not zero properly?
If it does spit on the counter occasionally; could it be used with an attached magnetic style dosing funnel? Or it really doesn’t need it?
Thanks for the introductory review!
Will it fit a bottomless portafilter? looks great!
Drooling at these. Not having to weight before grinding is such a time saver. I have the mignon oro and I'm pretty happy with it but I'm considering replacing it. Initially I was considering the mignon zero but maybe I save more for one of these 😊
Using a settee 270 WI at the moment, this looked like a really good upgrade..
Great video great grinder !
wanna see it against Mahlkonig W
We shall see!
Thanks. While gringing can i remove the portafilfter to shake the coffee then resume it to grind remaining? Or wil start over again?
Cant wait for mine!
thank you ! what about retention ? Better in cup with 75 or 75 and 65 is same on this point ?
Great video and well timed for my google search to watch a review. I think I’ll be buying this over the e65s gbw which just seems a bit overkill for home use.
Me too. I skipped the e65s and pre order w75. Even though the price in my country not so big. But yeah bigger burrs and better user experience
The e65s has too much features i don't really need. Except the burrs space detection i really liked.
@@mryoyo7741 Exciting! Let me know what you think when it arrives.
@@mryoyo7741 yes that would’ve been a good feature. The tiny adjustment wheel on the Eureka could certainly have been improved.
What about the deviation from the weight you choose?
Thank you very much for the review! Are there any measurements for the retention? In my opinion, this will determine its suitability for home use.
I don’t think retention matters when using hopper filled. I care for me with single dose
Was looking at buying either the 65W or the 75W! Great professional video and right on time. These look build like a tank. I noticed that the speed and sound does not differ that much between the two. Amazing that you included those measurements.
I only make 4-6 shots a day. Why should I upgrade to the 75W over the 65W?
Does the bigger burr size really make a difference in the cup? Does it have a better flavour profile?
Hi there. I did not find any life-altering difference in the cup between these two grinders. The larger burr set is going to mostly just make a difference in grind speed and will also technically have a longer life span.
--BRYAN
I'd go with the W65 for home use. I just got the W75, and I think it's overkill. About 5 seconds for a 18.8g dose. I would think the W65 would also be faster than my Mazzer Mini E (12 seconds), and the shorter size of the W65 would actually fit under my kitchen cabinets.
I like the noise of the Atoms a lot but one thing I am missing at this grinder is the possibility to fast switch between filter and espresso setting. With the Mahlkönig GBW I can just jump quickly between them but with Eureka I need to act like "5 turns right, 5 turns left" right?
Please answer my question: What hooper did you use on the atoms? is that a regular 300 gram from the previous generation? will 60 atom 300 gram hooper attach too ? please !
Hi T, These are the hopper which ship with the grinders in North America. May be different sizes in other countries.
@@Wholelattelovepageu can get small or large, tint with or no blow up system. Really good 👍
Thanks for the review.
I was wondering for the distance between the upper and bottom part of the fork. Can the bottom part of the fork can be moved down for about 50 mm?
I saw 4 phillips head screws in the middle of the fork. What's their purpose? Is it possible the top part of the fork to be moved up?
I'm asking because I use a La marzocco 7 g. basket that needs a funnel for smooth coffee distribution and tamping with a 41 mm tamper.
Grinding by weight would be a sweet wake up call in the morning! Instead I have to punch the bellows of my Specialty!
Where did you get that hooper ?~! they didn't sell that one with the Atom W
Its not an special atom w part you can buy it from de previous versions online its made for 300g
Can you put a funnel on the portafilter while dosing? I have a fairly tall one I use.
hi 1101n, The "W" (weighing) versions of the Atom grinders do not have enough clearance in the portafilter suppoort to operate with a dosing funnel.
@@Wholelattelovepage can it gbw to 22g without spilling everywhere?
I think if the just put grind burrs detection to show you burrs space in mm
With 65 and 75 particle distribution is very close, would there be a big difference in the taste profile?
Try and tell us
Hi there. You are correct in your assumptions. The difference in taste between the W65 and the W75 would be negligible. The main differences would be in grind speed and overall performance.
--BRYAN
😢 I literally just got the Atom Excellence 65! It only grinds by timer! The price difference was only 300 between EX and the W version. I guess I will just need to buy a single dose bellow and weight the beans on scale….
I just bought the X65 as well. The Libra GBW was having some issues at the store. Not sure I wanted a built in scale that could be problematic. Wonder why they gave grind by time as an option with these grinders if the grind by weight works perfectly?
@@briansmith2624 so they can charge you more moola for extra feature. The W65 or W75 can weight by time as well.
@@3rd-Wave_RebelI'll get the EX65 dialed in with my scale and then just weight doses once a week to be sure it is still close. A bigger issue with all of them is the dial creep I have heard of from the torque of the 75 motor.
@@briansmith2624The W version is over 3 grand where I lived and whereas the Excellence series is under 2k. I bought mine with 15% discount, it comes to 1621.32!
Silly question, but these grinders can not be used for pour over ciffee grinding?
Hi there. Not a silly question. These grinders are designed to be espresso only grinders.
--BRYAN
Does it still jerk on the counter like some of the previous versions of the 75 or is it pretty stable? Also do you know if it’s the same hopper lid as the previous Atom 75? (There are some folks that make custom wood lids and wondering if they’re the same fit/size). Thanks!
Hi there.
In my experience with the grinder, it does not shift at all during operation. The "short hopper" on the old Atom 75 is the same hopper as these new models.
--BRYAN
In a day and age where higher end grinders have tool-less access to the internals for cleaning, Eureka continues with it's three-different-tools requirement to do the same. The video doesn't even show cleaning access to the grind chute and de-clumper. While their grind by weight feature and grinding capability appear state of the art for the price range, these grinders fall behind the competition when you consider maintenance. And why is there no discussion in the video about the burrs?
What about the burrs?
@@rohanlg790 Different burrs produce different flavour profiles and/or are better suited for different brew methods. (For example, what about pour overs?) Nothing was said in the video what the Eureka burrs offer. They also didn't indicate whether the burrs can be changed with different ones (I suspect not, but don't know for certain). Cheaper grinders than these Eurekas offer these features.
I am interested what are serious competitors besides this grinder and this price range?
I own a W 65. Nice grinder for demanding users, be it home-baristas or professional users. Unfortunately it is nearly impossible to keep your counter clean. If you grind more than 15 grams, it will get messy. I bought the Eureka funnel but that one doesn't fit (too high). That's 37 euros down the drain. If someone has another solution, please let me know.
Like you I also grind more than 15 and there's lot of mess!
BUT I have a solution for you to try:
1)Take a dosing ring and put it on the portafilter after you insert it to the machine, put it on the other side of the portafilter and lift it up a bit so the grind can proccess while the ring sits there.
2)Take a dosing ring and cut it in exactly half so it could attach to the second side of the portafilter
3)Use a dosing cup
4)Order from Etsy a ring and ask the supplier to create 50% dosing ring instead.
I've been using my new W75 for a couple days, and I have almost zero mess. I grind to 18.8g, and it's not messy at all. Unfortunately the gbw feature is not very consistent so far, and I think the W65 is a better value for home use .
@@erik5024 Do you have by chance any idea how to cancel the hands free function ? I prefer not to use it
@@Terexzes I haven't looked into it yet. The default seems to work for me so far.
Libra is more beautiful and less than half the cost