🥣 💐 Deciding which heavy duty stand mixer to purchase for 🥖🍞🥨 bread making is a BIG decision. These are expensive machines, and you want to pick the right one for your needs! ↓ ↓ ↓ ▼ ▼ CLICK “Read more” FOR ADDITIONAL INFO. ▼ ▼ ↓ ↓ ↓ ➡️BLOG POST: kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum You will be taken to a handy SHOPPING COMPARISON with even MORE info, where you can compare the features of KitchenAid, Bosch, and Ankarsrum mixers, side-by-side!! ➡️VIDEO OUTLINE: 0:00 Introduction 1:25 Bread Making Heritage 2:02 Making Bread by Hand and Baker’s Intuition 2:26 KitchenAid Artisan Mixer 3:55 Bosch Universal Mixer 5:58 Ankarsrum Original Assistant Mixer 8:59 Antique Bread Pail 10:24 Pretty Pictures 🛒 Shop for or purchase a heavy duty mixer: (some links are affiliates) ✳️KitchenAid Artisan ~ 102986 ✳️Bosch Universal ~bosch-universal-plus-mixer ✳️Ankarsrum Assistent ~ ankarsrum-swedish-stand-mixer-heavy-duty-kitchen-mixer ⏩ COMING IN MAY 2022 🎥Videos: Matrimonial Rolls in the KitchenAid mixer Matrimonial Rolls in the Bosch mixer Matrimonial Rolls in the Ankarsrum mixer Old Fashioned Buttermilk Bread in the KitchenAid mixer 🌸🏡🌸 Welcome to Chocolate Box Cottage, 🧁 the sweet spot between 🕰 old fashioned values, like gardening and cooking from scratch, and ✨ modern conveniences that make life easier. 🌼 If you’re looking to create your slice of country living with practicality and finesse, you’re in the right place! Find special recipes and simple gardening projects to make your home life more bountiful. 🌼 I’m a functional nutritional therapy practitioner, and have taught basic cooking, gardening, and homemaking skills to families for the last 20 years. Blessings, Michele ♥️ FOLLOW CHOCOLATE BOX COTTAGE ON FACEBOOK! @t ♥️ JOIN THE CHOCOLATE BOX COTTAGE FACEBOOK GROUP! @t... ♥️ FIND ME ON MEWE! @t ♥️ FOLLOW CHOCOLATE BOX COTTAGE ON INSTAGRAM! @t
I can now say that I’ve used all 3. I just got my Ank a few days ago. Without hesitation, I can say that the Ank is in a class by itself. Amazing piece of machinery and the only one I’ll ever use from now on to make bread!!!!
THIS is EXACTLY the video I was looking for, as I haven't yet purchased a mixer yet. Trying to figure out what I need is very confusing. TY for helping make my decision!
So glad to see you again! I've had my Bosch for 32 years and have made MANY loaves of bread with it. I have loved it and found your assessment of it to be quite accurate! It is a very hard working machine. Thank you for this informative video!
32 years!! That is excellent! I have heard of others who have kept them going 25-30 years also, so you're not alone. Good for you, I am sure you have more than gotten your money's worth out of it. 🌸Michele
I've only had a Bosch for 4 years after 35+ years using KitchenAid. My old KitchenAid was great for making cakes and some cookies but too small to make anything but small batches. My newer Artisan KitchenAid is bigger but in 5 yrs I had to change out the inside mechanisms because they break. And it's still not strong enough to make anything but cakes. The Bosch is a workhorse that bakes big batches of cookies and bread. KitchenAid isn't even in the same category as far as I'm concerned.
I just bought a second hand Assistent made in the early forties with a lot of accessories for about $40. Still going strong. My mother bought hers new in the mid fifties and she is still using it.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage have you made any pirogi dough in the ankarsrum. Our family gets together to make them. We tend to make a huge batches enough to last the year and give out to other family, and we are all getting to the point we need electrical help in doing so. The kitchen aid I have barely lets me do quarter bag of AP flour. I love the openness look and the movable arm on the ank, not the pricetag. I made the big mistake on the kitchenaid.
@@deebee533 Hi, yes the Ankarsrum Assistent does a wonderful job with pirogi. My mother's side is German-from-Russia (Ukraine) and I use mine to make kaseknepfla, knoephla, schupfnudla, strudla / strudel (savory dumpling-style, not dessert), kuchen, kechla, etc. Your pirogi would be similar to our family's kaseknepfla. What a blessing to make these special dishes together as a family! Having a freezer stocked with an annual supply of heritage comfort food is a tremendous blessing - you should be proud. Many people love their KitchenAid mixers, but if it does not serve your purpose due to not enough capacity, have you considered selling it? I see used KitchenAids selling for quite a good price on Craigslist and FB Marketplace. Whatever you are able to get back for it could be put towards a savings fund for the one you really want . It is worth saving up for, believe me. Blessings to you! 🌼Michele
Hi Michele...just got my Ankarsrum today!!!! An incredible machine....I truly love how intuitive it makes one as a baker..ie....you really watch how the flour absorbs into the liquid before you keep adding the flour...also how sometimes u don't even use the ammount the recipe calls for..it is so thorough...keep on
Congratulations, Joyce! I am excited for you. The Ankarsrum is a wonderful machine and it sounds like you already have a good grasp of its magic: adding the flour gradually and watching it absorb into the dough. You are right, most times you will use less flour in the Ankarsrum, which results in softer bread.
What an excellent video!!! Wish I had this a few months ago. My 1993 bowl lift KA is getting tired from all my bread baking. It's been a work horse and I love it. Called customer service for advice on repairs and or replacement. I'm not kidding when I tell you I was on the phone with them over a period of 4 days for over 4 hours ! They kept putting me on hold checking with a supervisor etc. They finally convinced me(against my better judgement) to order a reconditioned artisan series. It came and was defective plus it's less strong than my old K A. So I immediately returned it. It took over 5 weeks for them to refund my credit card because they "have to be checked in and they're stuck on the loading dock" My customer experience was so poor i will Never purchase from then again. They do not empower or train their customer service reps. After being a 30 year customer very disappointed. I will keep using it for the meantime. They dont support repair, just want you to spend $$. Been researching Kenwood ( England) or Anskarum (Sweden) My advice: you as a serious baker know what u need and purchase accordingly!!
Oh my, what an experience. That would be disappointing. Your observation about empowering and training customer service reps is right on and I wish more companies understood this. Best wishes as you do your research and make your decision. By the way, what do you usually bake? And in what size batches? 🌼Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Hi Michele Thank you! I bake bread around 2x per week. I use around 6 cups flour. Gonna binge watch your channel for inspiration and more tips!
@@robine916I live in a tourist trap area in Florida. There are some RUclips channels I'm looking at that show about greasing gears etc on a Kitchen Aid.
An absolutely helpful and delightful presentation! I really found the dough pail interesting. My grandmothers always did their breads and pastries (Eastern European) by hand but I can see how they would have loved the Ankarsrum. I will keep an eye on your channel. Thank you! After years of considering my needs for bread dough and puff pastry dough needs, we finally just bought an Ankarsrum and I am so thrilled. I love it. Its as if I had it for years. The engineer who designed this machine was truly blessed by God. Enjoy!
I'm glad it was helpful, Kimberly. That is exactly what I was hoping to do - make it easier for people to choose the right mixer for their kitchen. So thank you for letting me know. It means a lot. 💐 Michele
I love my Bosch. You can make 6 standard size sandwich loaves in one hour. I haven't for several years because I only make sourdough now: but, if I needed fast bread I'd make the six loaves of yeast bread. It can handle a huge batch of gingersnap cookies. I had a Kitchen Aid, but the Bosch is so much better and we bought all the extras that go with the machine; we can do everything. We love our Bosch. We were referred by, Mary's Nest
I'm glad you're making good use of your Bosch. There are a lot of really nice attachments for it! It is a quality machine and a great help in the kitchen. 🌸 Michele
@@rachelr9937 That's the funny thing, I bought the Bosch with all the attachments and started making sourdough the month after; no need for a mixer with sourdough! And, you can make anything with sourdough. I highly recommend the Jovial Foods Sourdough Cookbok. If you are serious about sourdough, you will love that cookbook, it's my favorite of all of my cookbooks. Oh wait, that cookbook is for Ezekiel flour; I grind Ezekial wheat berries as I make my baked goods. The Mockmill is the best for grinding flour. For Hard Red Wheat flour, I would recommend Mary's Nest on RUclips; if you love cooking there's not a question she doesn't answer in her videos and she's as sweet and kind as the day is long.
I owned the Bosch and then bought the Swedish made Ankarsrum and there is no comparison. The Swedish mixer is far superior in every way. The US made mixer is only good for making 3-4 pizza balls and it will walk itself right off the counter. Don’t waste your money. I can make 14#’s of sourdough bread in the Swedish model with power to spare and it can be handed down to your grandkids.
I have the larger kitchen aid with the bowl that drops down. It definitely is better made than the other cheaper style. I’m pretty sure the bowl is larger than 5 quarts and also is make in the US. I don’t think the cheaper one is fully made in the US.
I’ve been using a Bosch for years now. It has never walked off the counter. I will be leaving mine to one of my kids. They are fully reparable, as are the KA mixers which I have also used for many years. I was going to give away the KA but decided to keep it. I use both of them regularly. Maybe if I used the Swedish one I would want it. But, I am 100% satisfied with the Bosch so wouldn’t bother thinking about it. My Bosch has the stainless bowl and came with many attachments. I have a blender attachment and want to get the meat grinder as well. It’s a fantastic machine.
I’ve owned a Bosch for 17 years and my mom and sisters have had Bosch for a lot longer than that. They are excellent machines that have been around a long time. Most people who have Bosch mixers love them and would buy them again if their original mixers ever died though I have yet to meet someone whose Bosch died. The Ankarsrum appears to be a good machine but I disagree it’s that much better than a Bosch.
I owned both and sold the ankarsrum, the Bosch mixes better and attachments don’t require small mortgage. The ankarsrum is incredibly well made but a hefty brute. The Bosch has sticky feet so will not wobble on counter. I found you needed to baby the ankarsrum more.
I think the Bosch is the most versatile and I have one since the 70’s that works beautifully! I may add I love white appliances. They match everything! As a professional chef, I use it the most and actually gave my professional Kitchen Aid mixers to another family who loves it and could not afford one. I love the Assistant in the commercial setting and loved mine very much. When I retired, I kept my Bosch. It will last my life time. Thank you so much for your video. All these machines are quality. Mixers are like perfume; very subjective.
Well said, Vicky, and thank you for the lovely comment! It's nice to hear from a professional chef. I love that you gave your KAs to someone who would use and appreciate it/them. ~Michele
I have both Kitchen and Bosch. I treasure both. I have had my Kitchen Aid for close to35 years and it still works great. The Bosch is about 15 years old and is awesome for making large batches of dough. I have made as many as 10 Loaves. My older model came with two sizes of bowls. One for about 5 loaves, the other for 10. Mixing beaters are different for each bowl.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage, the old Universal, (not plus) has 2 bowls, one looks like your Plus model, and a LARGE stainless steel bowl. That bowl is basically for breads and cookies, only the dough hook works with it. 10 loaves of bread, equals about 20 batches of cookies. steve
I have had the Bosch Universal Plus, and now have an older Bosch. What I would say, is that for bread dough, the steel bowl without the center pole and with a bottom mounted dough hook is the best. By far the best! Why? The dough can not climb up and make a mess to clean. It has more room for larger doughs. It can also knead smaller doughs. The dough hook is machine washable. And when you tip out the dough onto the table, the dough hook will sit on top of the dough instead of underneath it, and can easily be removed without a mess. The dough hook has a scraper that scrapes the sides and bottom of the bowl. I bought an older Bosch that originally had that bowl with the bottom mounted dough hook, because I did not know that I could just buy that bowl from Bosch and use it on a modern Universal Plus. And that is what I highly will recommend for people that bake bread, get that bowl without the center console and every issue and annoying things will disappear. Plus you can make a really huge batch in that bowl, if you wish. It is a fantastic bowl that will make bread baking so much easier for you Bosch users.
I have had all three of the mixers in this video and concur with your findings. The Ankarsrum is by far the best one, aptly named "the assistant," because it will knead while you do other things. I love it. So far it has been a foolproof appliance that does what it says it does. I went thought five KA's (one, with a glass bowl, bounced off the counter and three burned out the motor and/or gears.). The KA was a pain for adding ingredients and handling lots of bread dough. The Bosch didn't last long because it is flimsy plastic - it felt and looked like a toy and did not handle large amounts of bread dough. The steel Ankarsrum has been a staple in many other countries and will last a lifetime because of its construction.
You're welcome! I don't know how common they were in all parts of the country and I would guess many of them have been thrown away over the years, unfortunately. 🌸Michele
Hello , I'm here from Mary's Nest, and I so enjoy when she recommends Channels! I have a KitchenAid, and I so enjoy it ... it looks like " Cast Iron ", which I love. I hadn't seen one like until I got it. Yes, back in my childhood and teenage years, my Grandmother made bread, homemade Cinnamon Rools, and all sorts of biscuits, etc by hand.
You are blessed to have such warm and wonderful memories of your Grandmother. ❤️ And I bet you are an accomplished baker yourself. Thank you for visiting, isn't Mary the sweetest? 🌸Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage ....thank you, for your kind and lovely reply .. Oh, I wouldn't go so far, but that's a nice thought... lol. ..about my baking. She was really a great cook, and the only time she measured anything was baking, she taught me a lot. Yes, nice memories. 😊❤️. I agree, Miss Mary is the sweetest, but again, she has good company. Blessings ~ S.
I've never heard of the ankarsrum mixer. It looks so beautiful. Using less flour sounds ideal. This is definitely a dream kitchen appliance for me! Thank you for your product comparison.
You're welcome and thank you for your kind comment. Here is the link to the printable shopping comparison: chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/ 🌸 Michele
Thank you for the breakdown of each piece of equipment. I’m from ND. My grandma and my mom used the Bosch. My moms gave up its ghost last year. She got hers in the early 1980s when my aunt and uncle were distributors for the company.
What a great testimonial! Forty-some years of use is wonderful! Thank you for your comment. It's so helpful to hear how long the Bosch has lasted. Michele
Excellent review just Hubby and I often make my bread by hand enjoy artisan bread I’ve enjoyed my Kitchen Aid for 40 years cheers from Pennsylvania Blessings 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great video, very informative. I just bought my first KitchenAid 8 quart commercial mixer. I figure go big or go home. Looking forward to using it for these holidays. Thank you for your input on this subject.👍👍😁
Mary sent me! Glad she did! I have a kitchenaid and a Bosch. I use and enjoy both! The KA stays on my counter and the Bosch sits in my pantry until I need to make a large quantity of bread. The ankarsrum is a beauty but pricey! So glad I don’t have to hand crank the old one!!
Hi Pamela, God bless Mary! The KA is such a beautiful piece of kitchen equipment, isn't it? Good for small jobs. The Bosch is great for big batches of bread. I'm glad you are happy with both. And yes, count your lucky stars that we home bakers are not limited to a hand crank bucket for bread making! 🌸Michele
30 yr old universal Bosch mixer has probably made 1000 loaves over its lifetime, the blender is very seldom used. The bowl bulges,but doesnt break. Pros lightweight, splatter shield,secondary cover. Cons center hub isn't easy to clean. 4.5 qt Kitchenade 15 years for general mixing ,but occasionally for bread. Pros open bowl easy to clean,splatter shield, more than 10 accessories like ice cream maker can be added to front of the head. Cons heavy,weaker motor,tall and can hit upper cabinets while tilting. For large batches of bread get the Bosch,for everything else get the larger 6qt Kitchenade in my opinion. Have not tried the Assistant. Nice comparison!
I have had a kitchenaid for 25+ years. I use it for pizza dough but have never used it for bread. I use a no knead recipe for bread and bake it in a dutch oven. It turns out the BEST artisan bread ever!
I have had my kitchen aid for over 50 years and for several years had my own cake business. I also had 6 children and baked my own bread when they were young. Now with only me and my husband I don’t use it much. Make things mostly by hand now.
I was excited to see the antique bread pail. I recently acquired one to go with my antique dough bowl for proofing dough. Made out of the same type of metal as the dough pail. I wasn't sure how many of them were still around and it has all the parts. I am so excited to use it. I love kitchen antiques. Thank you for the info as far as the time periods they were used. Enjoyed your mixer comparison and I am leaning towards the ankarsrum. I have kitchen aids but find with freshly milled flour, the kitchen aid struggles and I have one of the more powerful ones.
It's so nice to hear from someone who appreciates a good old-fashioned bread pail. The antique ones were built sturdy, but as they fell out of favor they have become less common an item to find at yard sales and antique shops. I did recently find a modern version with a plastic bucket and stainless steel dough hook on Amazon. a.co/d/2sRQnrq It doesn't have near the charm of the metal ones, though! Enjoy your kitchen antiques and best wishes on choosing a heavy duty stand mixer that suits your needs. Blessings, Michele
I just found your channel, wanted to get into baking with my wife for a while but never had the motivation to start until watching your channel. Thank you!
@@ChocolateBoxCottage no mixer yet, we were thinking eventually the Ankasrum just because it seems quieter, has a more mechanically simple design for the motor, as well as the 7 year warranty but we decided to also take your advice and bake by hand first to get an understanding of how the dough should feel.
@@nashonabo821 the warranty is hard to beat. You won't be disappointed. It is worth saving up for, since it is a big purchase. Very smart to learn to make bread by hand first. It really helps you get acquainted with the process and that understanding will carry over to when you have a mixer. 🌼Michele
I am glad it was helpful, Audrey. I will add a link to the printable comparison chart for you below! 💐 Best wishes on your decision. Michele chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/
excellent presentation. to the point, no 'fluff" and detailed enough to get some idea of what these mixers have to offer. since you also have individual videos dealing with each mixer, I'll look at those too!
I also have all three of these machines and each one of them performs better at different things. It might seem like overkill for most home bakers, but I don't regret getting any And all but the KA I bought secondhand (as that is how I always try to buy things). I've have them all for over a decade and they all get regular use.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Actually none. I have a mudroom next to the kitchen which is also a pantry of sorts. I have them all on the counter in that room. The one I love the most is the Ank. The Bosch is OK and I have that thing all blinged out with all the accessories (secondhand). I bought the flaker for it, so I flake my own oats. It's probably the one I would keep if I can have only one... I guess? But it's not great for small batches. The KA I find inferior in every way except it's good for making italian meringue. I would NEVER use it for bread. And it's the heaviest!
I have a Bosch. It's amazing how much dough it will handle. Before they made the scraper, it left stuff on the center pillar, but the scraper fixed that. It's wonderful for pizza. You can make dough for lots of pizzas in one batch. You can get a Bosch with a steel bowl. It does a good job with sausage, too. Kitchenaid is warning people that its mixers burn out if dough kneading exceeds two minutes.
Hi, thanks for the comparison. I've been using the "Ank"-- Magic Mill Assistant, for about 20 years. It easily handles 2.2 kilograms of whole grain flour. That's 5 big 850-900 gram loaves in a standard bread pan. 4 1/2" x 8 1/2". Baker's %-the water is variable, not the flour. Plus, that is using professional technique -incorporating ingredients, including DIY, a 30 minute autolyse without salt. Then add salt;- knead 10 minutes. Engineered! Bosch climbs up and gets in the center gear. It has "pinch points." Kitchen Aid is only for cupcakes. Have a friend that got a kitchen aid, and it died on the first batch if bread. They returned it, and called me. After they received their "Ank," they were so glad they invested in the "Ank." I've used it to make 100% sprouted bread also. IMHO, "Ank" is the only one worth it.
I have a cuisinart stand mixer that I use for bread to save wear and tear on my kitchenaid. The only issue I have with it is the paddle and dough hook aren’t very well engineered and leave a lot of unincorporated ingredients in the bottom of the bowl. The kitchenaid always gets everything and it’s pretty and has a ton of great attachments so I end up using it more now but I’m glad to have the cuisinart because the motor is BULLETPROOF.
Lovely video, thank you. One correction though. I have a Bosch mixer that looks just like the one in your video and it is 800 watts--not 325 as stated. The KitchenAid next to it is probably the 325 watt mixer. I've been using Bosch mixers for about 25 years and have had excellent results with baking 4 large loaves of Khorasan wheat bread on a regular basis. I can mix triple and quadruple batches of cookies, etc. The Bosch is highly recommended. Would love to see the Ankasrum in action as it appears to be a high quality machine. Wishing you many blessings!
800 was the old method of evaluating wattage. Today, the same motor is considered 500 watts. Idk why… Edit: actually, I sort of do; they changed the method for ratings in the US recently, but am unsure why they changed that.
Hi Sylvia, our Mary is the sweetest, isn't she? Thank you for coming by. ❤️ I am working on a series of bread making videos, so you can get comfortable with your beautiful KitchenAid mixer. What color do you have?
if you're a KA or Bosch owner, one try with the Ankarsrum and you'll toss the other two. All things considered, from use to clean up, there's no comparison.
Spoken like an Ank owner. Each brand has its fans for sure. I bought my first one (it was called Magic Mill Assistent then) in 1997 and sure have enjoyed it over the years. Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Hell! Just wanted tosay, this KA is'nt the professional model, it's a medium sized model, so clearly it has problems with some doughs. The pfoessional has a 6,9 Liter bowl and costs much more ( between 1.200- 1.490€ !) than this one here. The professional should mix dough without any problems, she's bigger, you cant lift the head, you habe to lift the bowl instead. KA is often better, because of full metal and you can repair it well,all components fit for every model
I have a newer (from the 90s)dough pail. It’s great for kids to crank. Good for off grid or grid down situations. Esp in today’s world! Love my DLX kitchen center. It’s now called Ankarasum but mine was made in Sweden also so I’m guessing it’s the same product. It looks identical but there’s no extra bowl for whipped cream etc. I have tons of accessories too. Great machine. 6 loaves 100% whole grain bread, no sweat. If you have more than 1 or 2 kids buy it, period. Sooooo much you can do with it. Mine sits on my counter.
Really! I didn't know dough pails were still made. How interesting! About your DLX, yes it is the same machine. It has gone through several name changes over the years. It did not used to include the clear bowl or the dough hook.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage I got the dough hook with mine But I might have ordered it with that one attachment. I always used the hook and spatula. But I always make 100% wholegrain. Greatest machine ever! The KA are a joke and I still think the DLX has always been a better machine than the Bosch-all my friends got Bosch as that was well what they all were getting lol I researched more! Check out Urban Homemaker for all things bread and cooking. I think that’s were my dough pail came from, yrs ago. Also The Bread Beckers is a good family company. Excellent cookbook too. Amazon is out right now. I got it out of a library once tho.
I Bought a Kitchen Aide about a year ago (mistake it,s Gutless for 2 loaves of Bread) Bought a Bosh 5/2024 for Mothers day... WOW what a Nice Difference. The Bosh Is a KEEPER / WINNER
I have both the Ankarsrum and the Bosch. I have had them both for a very long time. The Ankarsrum is absolutely wonderful for kneading bread dough. I do not like it for mixing heavy thick cookie dough. I prefer the Bosch for that. For this reason, I believe the Bosch is more versatile, iif you can only afford one or only have room for one. I have even used the dough hook in the Bosch for processing ground venison to make sausage. After all these years, my Ankarsrum can only run at one low speed. If I speed it up even slightly, it speeds up out of control. I wonder if it can be repaired? Maybe it's time to purchase a new one.
That doesn't sound right. You should be able to make cookie dough, mix up meat for giant batches of meatballs and anything you can do with the Bosch using your Ankarsrum Assistent. I'd see about having it repaired. ~ Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thanks for the reply. Maybe I need a tutorial on how to use my Ankarsrum correctly. It has the wire paddles that do not look strong enough for a thick cookie dough. The literature that came with it states that these paddles are for cake batters and whipping cream. I used the dough roller to cream together the sugar and butter on a thick cookie dough. It worked, but not a nicely as the thick strong cookie paddles on the Bosch mixer. Do you know anything about the new mixer put out by NutriMill? It looks very similar to the Bosch but slightly smaller. I would like to see a video on that mixer. Thanks.
My first Kitchen aid lasted so long well over 25 years and never broke down, gave it to my granddaughter and she is still using it but didn't have that kind of luck with two more I had. my Bosch is doing great after 5 years, I never owned a Ankasrum but don't need another mixer, I also use a Cusinart which makes good bread very fast. its over 20 years old and still going.
Thank you! Your review was excellent and informative. I have a much better idea of which machine to get now. really enjoyed learning about the bread pail. ingenious!
I am so glad you found it helpful. A good mixer is worth saving up for. Sharing about the bread pail was fun - I figured many people had never heard of one. It was the first "manual" heavy duty stand mixer! LOL! It works if you work it! 🌸 Michele
I have been making bread with a kitchenaid mixer for almost 5 years, and I've had to get it repaired twice. I'm now told that you shouldn't use it for more than 2 minutes for dough then let it rest for 20 minutes. WHAT no way. Sourdough takes a long time to mix, so for me my KA has just become an expensive bench ornament. I have since purchased a Ankarsrum and I love it, it is a work horse, it is amazing.
which model you used? The professional can do it but not the other, smaller ones. Here in the videothisis'nt aprofessiinal KA mashine, its maybe 6L Artisan or somesimilar.
I have the kitchenaid mixer, just like the one you’ve shown and I love it. I really don’t use it much, unless I want to make bread or rolls. That’s mainly at Holidays. It does the job well. I use my hand mixer more than anything. Just two of us, no need for a bigger one, although if I did, I would buy the Ankarsrum. It’s quite handsome. Thanks for your video. It’s very informative for those that are looking for bigger and better.
Ive owned a kitchenaid 350w Pro 5qt stand mixer for 20 years now ... but I generally dont use it for most styles of bread, which are best fabricated BY HAND. I mostly use my stand mixer for the various attachments I use - grain mill, pasta roller, meat grinder, sausage stuffer, etc. Different styles of bread have different fabrication needs, whereas a stand mixer is only good for mixing and general kneading. Classic artisinal sourdough for example doesnt like excessive kneading - after mixing, the goal is not so much gluten development (much of which happens automatically as a result of enzymatic autolysis) but rather gluten alignment and layering, which must be done by hand via iterative pull & fold motions. A stand mixer cannot do that - it can only mix. The only styles of bread I use the stand mixer for is neapolitan pizza dough, which is unstructured (esp if im making a lot and planning to portion and freeze it) and the initial stages of pita dough.
1 suggestion: anyone planning to use a grain mill attachment should prioritize the power and torque rating. My 350w pro is fine for all uses, but for milling grain it is rather anemic. Chickpeas for example can cause the gears to strip if fed too quickly, so I recommend no less than 500w and preferrably 700w+ for those looking to mill their own grains, pulses and legumes into flour.
You might be surprised. Conventional wisdom says that sourdough must be made by hand, but the Ankarsrum Assistent fitted with roller and scraper does an excellent job gently squeezing dough, which closely mimics human hands. It's hard to describe unless you have seen it. I have a feeling you might like the Ankarsrum. Thanks for watching and for your articulate and thoughtful comments. ~ Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thank you for the informative reply. I would like to add that "squeezing" (sic) has more to do with the mixing I mentioned, and less with the requisite stretch & folding that aligns and layers the gluten structure (to help a sourdough loaf hold onto it's CO2, esp in high hydration doughs). The further you go above say 75% hydration, the less useful a stand mixer is for breadmaking, and the more necessary it is to use good manual technique. All that being said, I look forward to watching the remainder of the vid, as my KSM5 wearing out, and increasingly underpowered for some of my needs. Cheers, and +1
Yes, quote the workout. Maybe they weren't available in Canada? The usual homemaking, gardening, and homesteading tasks/chores are enough to keep a person in shape -no gym membership required!
I've heard that old KA mixers are well worth it, not so modern ones. I have burnt gears on 2 and now I am considering to get an Ankarsrum. Very informative video. Thank you!
I don’t have any experience with the Bosh mixer. The kitchen aid mixer is not what it used to be back when Hobart used to make them. The Ank is a totally different way of making bread. The Ank is a breast of a mixer that has so much more power but it works so much differently.
I agree, Mindy. I have an old Hobart made KitchenAid and will never part with it. The Bosch is different than either KA or Ankarsrum. They each have their own style. Since most of us home cooks learn on a KA, it affects how we approach other mixers and we don't realize it.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage the Ankarsrum mixer scared me bad with making the first bread. I followed the directions and still felt the need to hand knead to make sure I got the window pane lol. I have now learned to trust it but it was a learning experience
@@ChocolateBoxCottagehow would you compare the Hobart KA to the others? Is it capable of more? I have one and am not sure if that means I don’t actually need a Bosch or Ank?
I've decided on the bosch. I've had a kitchen aid, and the lower wattage and how the head bounces around makes me want to go with the bosch. The ankarshrum is out of my budget. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for this information. My KA is 12 years and just started struggling on dough so I ordered the Nutrimill Artiste. Didn't mix my eggs and 2nd time use I had to get in there and work my dough. I just got back from UPS store to return it. I hopefully will receive my Bosch Mixer and my Nutrimill Grinder tomorrow. Both were on sale with accessories for mothers day. All that to say I loved this video and perfect timing! 💖
How disappointing that the first mixer you bought didn't perform. I'm glad you were able to return it and get both a Bosch + a grain mill! You have a lot of baking fun ahead of you! I'm adding videos weekly, so I hope to have more to offer you soon. Thanks for visiting! 🌸Michele
The expected life of a kitchenaid is 10 years? The 20 year old ones we beat the heck out of at the restaurant I worked at and my 30 year old kitchenaid I use at home must be real outliers! I’ve been incredibly fortunate to stumble onto 3 kitchenaids that were so resilient!
Mine is 27 years and going strong, but I just started using FMF to make bread in August and am afraid I might be pushing the limits on my sweet KA classic. My mom's KA is from 1978 and still going strong, tho she only ever makes cookies, cakes, and quick breads in it.
I've been making homemade bread in my grandmother's bread pale since I was little. We made bread homemade bread every week. My Dad and brothers would take turns turning the dough, so Yes!, it is some kind of workout turning it. I do it myself now by wrapping my legs around the pale turn hold it still while cranking it. 😆 I only do this once or twice a year and make about 20 loaves of bread at a time to give to family for holidays. The bread pale is from 1908.🙂
Oh my goodness, I love this! 20 loaves, wow! Your relatives are blessed. ❤️ I'm laughing because what I didn't mention in the video is that I often sat on the kitchen floor with my legs wrapped around the pail, LOL! The clamp didn't work that well so that was my workaround. Have a wonderful evening, blessings to you! Love, Michele
I had the Swedish one a few years ago and just didn’t care for it, I sold it for more then I paid for it. I bought a Viking Mixer and I absolutely love it.
For fresh milled grain dough it is my understanding that the kitchenaid is not good because it is just not strong enough to handle the heavy dough. The best for that are the other two mentioned and nutrimill artiste. They don't have the missing arms on top but in the base making them better suited for bread doughs. Thank you for the information on the ones mentioned though.
Perhaps - the directions that come with the KA machine state it can handle 6 cups of whole wheat flour. I'm just taking them at their word. I have found 6 cups is okay, but wouldn't go over that amount. ~Michele
You're welcome, Renee! If you want more info, you can find a printable side-by-side comparison of the 3 mixers here: chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/ ~Michele
Love this video! This is a great comparison and something no one else has done so concisely. Of course, some of us who are total mixer geeks, own one of each...🙃
Great story about your baking heritage. I too have a German Oma who baked for the family and farm hands in an outdoor wood fired oven when possible and in the house during the winter season. She used a wooden trough that my Opa made and I'm obsessed with that idea. I've learned that hand mixing in a large oval container (2 1/2 gallon rubbermaid found at Walmart) is great for large quantities... the larger the better. I'm on the fence about a mixer as I get older and am wondering.... how much time does using the Akarsrum save you over the course of a week, a month or a year? I find a lot of my time is spent prepping the add ins, like chopping the soaked sunflower and pumpkins seeds, pickled red onions, olives, rosemary and any other thing I want to add. Is owning a mixer really a time saver? I'm 63 and have never owned one, lol.
I've had the entry model Kitchen Aid for over 25 years. Its a good mixer -- will mix the heck out of cake batter and other similar batters. My wife and I have made hundreds, maybe even thousands, of mixes for all kinds of things -- mostly desserts -- and I've made SOME bread in it. However, contrary to any assertion here, it is NOT a bread mixer. It is a poor mixer for bread kneeding. I've never gotten a good bread mix from it and thus bought a bread machine to do the bread mix. However, if you buy a higher end KA mixer -- the one with the SPIRAL dough hook -- I believe that MIGHT work. It will certainly work better. But these last way longer than 10 years. At least, the older ones did. Mine shows no signs of giving up, though I haven't tried to make bread with it in close to 20 years.
I understand what you're saying...many people buy it for bread making. It's great you have one of the older model KAs. They were well-built. Your desserts sound great. Blessings, Michele
wow! lovely comparison of the 3 types of stand mixer. Thank you so very much! I really enjoy knowing something new - Antique Bread Pail, that's so cool! thank you!😊
Thank you, Issy! I'm glad you enjoyed it, along with seeing how the old-school "breadmaker" works. Having used one, it sure makes me appreciate my electric mixer! 💖 Michele
Comparisons of expensive kitchen appliances can be very helpful. In my view the best feature a KitchenAid mixer has over other mixers is, when they break they can be inexpensively repaired and made as good as a brand new mixer. The fact that they are made out of metal instead of cheap plastic makes this possible. Other mixers are generally throw away items and are generally discarded when they break down. The ;most frequent repair item in a KitchenAid mixer is a nylon worm gear that will disintegrate if the mixer is overloaded. This feature saves the motor and other components from being damaged. The gear is readily available and costs less than $10.00. The entire transmission assembly costs around $15.00.
OK, I'm a mechanic, and not just cars. That being said, I don't know if the Bosch is easy to repair. Never seen one that needs it. I'm the second of 7 kids, mom had one, and 5 siblings had Bosch Universal mixers. My holdout brother borrowed one of mine, when his KA died for the third time. He wouldn't give it back! steve
We have a thirty year old kitchen aid with the bowl lift. It been.good but has always struggled with heavier doughs. Good thing I re-fell in love with hand mixing and kneading. I’ve been contemplating increasing my baking production so that I can sell things at the farmers markets in the area not that I’ve retired. The Ankarsrum sounds like the way to go. I’ll keep the KA for whipping cream, egg whites etc. doing those by hand can be too labor intensive. Thanks for the Video.
Do hang onto your older KitchenAid. It's a better, stronger machine than the new ones. As for expanding production and turning your baking into a small business, Ankarsrum is a good choice. You might consider joining the Ankarsrum mixer USA fans group on Facebook (if you use FB). There are several farmers market bakers who can answer questions you have. Best wishes on your baking! Love, Michele
I want a machine that is great for making bread but that i can also use for cookies cakes whipped cream bearing eggs. Something that can handle whatever I need to do in the kitchen! Which brand is best for that? Thanks
Kitchen aid only for my experience. But the first one lasted for I'd guess 40 years. We sold it for what we paid for it used as we got a free upgrade, another Kitchenaid from a pro cook. I had to replace the gears. I think it cost $15 and hope it also lasts another 40 years. I make bread once a week so perfect for me.
i have the electrolux assistant (same constructions as the ankarsrum its from the late 50ies..... still work. still the same tools andni can b ankarsrums newer stuff to it. fantastic machine.
Ohhh, another mixer connoisseur? And you have a pink Ankarsrum? They're rare as unicorns. I bet you're glad you got it while the color was available. Every time I walk in my kitchen the color makes me smile. 💖 Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage yes, the color is smile-worthy! Bought it right before they discontinued the color. (I have a matte pink Kitchenaid, too. ❤️) I hope you will do more videos. Just found you and find them well thought out, clear and encouraging. You’re a good speaker. Please continue to share.
Thank you so much for this video comparing bread mixers. I've been looking to get one as I injured myself by hand mixing, heard something give in my shoulder, and developed a frozen shoulder that took weeks to heal. So, I most definitely need a machine to do the work that I used to be able to do when I was younger. lol I was looking into the Bosch until I started seeing more on the Ankarsrum. After your video, I am now leaning towards the Ankarsrum. I'm new to your channel and have just subscribed.
Welcome, Silli Lilli. 🌺 Making bread dough by hand is a workout, it sounds like you need a kitchen helper. The Ankarsrum Assistent is quiet and capable and does an excellent job kneading. The dough turns out very much like hand kneading, so I think you will be pleased. And thank you for subscribing! Blessings, Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thank you, I'm glad I found your comparison video. I'll have to binge watch your other videos to catch up. I've been baking for over fifty years, yeah, I know I'm aging myself. lol I started in my pre-teens, Mom (RIP) taught me well. P.S. I'm still young at heart.
@@sillililli01 how wonderful to have those memories of your Mom. ❤ ❤ I'm sure you have quite a bit of baking wisdom to share yourself! So your compliment is extra special to me. Thank you for taking the time to write. Blessings, Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage If there is one tip I would give, garnered from my years of baking, is to reduce the sugar in recipes drastically. For instance, I don't put any sugar in my cheesecake recipe, the sweetness comes from any topping. I've never liked the first bite being too much sugar in any dessert, so I started, years ago, reducing sugar. Better for my health, too.
Thank you. The Ankarsrum is worth saving up for. The experience of using the bread pail to bake bread is something I wouldn't trade for anything. It really gave me an appreciation for what my grandmothers did to provide bread for their families. Not to mention the gardening and canning and cooking from scratch they did as there were not grocery stores nearby. 🌷Michele
Oh my goodness I haven’t seen you in forever. I was on the bread making class on FB. Great to see you. I’ve been thinking about getting my mom a good mixer and am thinking about the Ankararum
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Yes it’s on hold. It’s just to hot with the weather right now. I feel more comfortable with the active yeast breads but I want to do more of the sourdough bread. I still have my starter in the refrigerator but to be honest it’s been in there (I say sleeping) for a little bit now. I need to wake it up, feed it and try my hand at it again. With the packets you just open one up but with the sourdough starter what does one packet equate too? Welcome back and I loved the video about the lemon trees. I’m gonna try that now. I love lemons and use them a lot.
@@abbystaggs2794 I understand, I'd rather spend time in the garden than in the kitchen right now myself. It is difficult to give a precise answer about subbing sourdough for yeast packets because it's more than just the yeast. There is the flour and water in the sourdough that need to be taken into consideration. And of course the timetable changes a lot between the two types. If you are reading the dough the way Carolyn teaches those skills carry over and yet look a little different. it's one of those things that you learn by feel. You've already got much of the basics so you will simply build on that foundation. There is no substitute for hands-on experience in baking. So...keep baking! It will fall into place. 🤗Michele
Only Kitchen Aid has the capacity for multi use such as food processor (that chops cubes!) ice cream maker, ice shaver, pasta maker, spiralizer etc…for that reason alone, I love it. If bread maker is the only thing you use maybe the Ankerushim is a better choice. But for all around machine that has mutli funtction Kitchen Aid is the way to go. IMO.
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I thought Bosch was a 500 watt, and is KitchenAid 325 watt?
I can now say that I’ve used all 3. I just got my Ank a few days ago. Without hesitation, I can say that the Ank is in a class by itself. Amazing piece of machinery and the only one I’ll ever use from now on to make bread!!!!
THIS is EXACTLY the video I was looking for, as I haven't yet purchased a mixer yet. Trying to figure out what I need is very confusing. TY for helping make my decision!
So glad to see you again! I've had my Bosch for 32 years and have made MANY loaves of bread with it. I have loved it and found your assessment of it to be quite accurate! It is a very hard working machine. Thank you for this informative video!
32 years!! That is excellent! I have heard of others who have kept them going 25-30 years also, so you're not alone. Good for you, I am sure you have more than gotten your money's worth out of it. 🌸Michele
I've only had a Bosch for 4 years after 35+ years using KitchenAid. My old KitchenAid was great for making cakes and some cookies but too small to make anything but small batches. My newer Artisan KitchenAid is bigger but in 5 yrs I had to change out the inside mechanisms because they break. And it's still not strong enough to make anything but cakes. The Bosch is a workhorse that bakes big batches of cookies and bread. KitchenAid isn't even in the same category as far as I'm concerned.
I have a 7 quart Kitchen Aid mixer my husband bought me years ago and it’s a beast. I do four loaves of bread at a time.
I just bought a second hand Assistent made in the early forties with a lot of accessories for about $40. Still going strong. My mother bought hers new in the mid fifties and she is still using it.
Wow! Twin testimonies to the enduring quality of the Ankarsrum mixer!! Thank you for sharing, that is wonderful. ~Michele
I've had my kitchen aid mixer for 30 years and it has yet to fail me. Thx for the info.
Hi Michele, So HAPPY to see you back on RUclips!! And thank you so much for this overview of these wonderful stand mixers. Love, Mary
I appreciate your encouragement so much!! Thank you for everything!
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@@ChocolateBoxCottage have you made any pirogi dough in the ankarsrum. Our family gets together to make them. We tend to make a huge batches enough to last the year and give out to other family, and we are all getting to the point we need electrical help in doing so. The kitchen aid I have barely lets me do quarter bag of AP flour. I love the openness look and the movable arm on the ank, not the pricetag. I made the big mistake on the kitchenaid.
@@deebee533 Hi, yes the Ankarsrum Assistent does a wonderful job with pirogi. My mother's side is German-from-Russia (Ukraine) and I use mine to make kaseknepfla, knoephla, schupfnudla, strudla / strudel (savory dumpling-style, not dessert), kuchen, kechla, etc. Your pirogi would be similar to our family's kaseknepfla. What a blessing to make these special dishes together as a family! Having a freezer stocked with an annual supply of heritage comfort food is a tremendous blessing - you should be proud. Many people love their KitchenAid mixers, but if it does not serve your purpose due to not enough capacity, have you considered selling it? I see used KitchenAids selling for quite a good price on Craigslist and FB Marketplace. Whatever you are able to get back for it could be put towards a savings fund for the one you really want . It is worth saving up for, believe me. Blessings to you! 🌼Michele
Mary you are the best encourager.
Hi Michele...just got my Ankarsrum today!!!! An incredible machine....I truly love how intuitive it makes one as a baker..ie....you really watch how the flour absorbs into the liquid before you keep adding the flour...also how sometimes u don't even use the ammount the recipe calls for..it is so thorough...keep on
Congratulations, Joyce! I am excited for you. The Ankarsrum is a wonderful machine and it sounds like you already have a good grasp of its magic: adding the flour gradually and watching it absorb into the dough. You are right, most times you will use less flour in the Ankarsrum, which results in softer bread.
What an excellent video!!! Wish I had this a few months ago. My 1993 bowl lift KA is getting tired from all my bread baking. It's been a work horse and I love it. Called customer service for advice on repairs and or replacement. I'm not kidding when I tell you I was on the phone with them over a period of 4 days for over 4 hours ! They kept putting me on hold checking with a supervisor etc. They finally convinced me(against my better judgement) to order a reconditioned artisan series. It came and was defective plus it's less strong than my old K A. So I immediately returned it. It took over 5 weeks for them to refund my credit card because they "have to be checked in and they're stuck on the loading dock"
My customer experience was so poor i will Never purchase from then again. They do not empower or train their customer service reps. After being a 30 year customer very disappointed. I will keep using it for the meantime. They dont support repair, just want you to spend $$. Been researching Kenwood ( England) or Anskarum (Sweden)
My advice: you as a serious baker know what u need and purchase accordingly!!
Oh my, what an experience. That would be disappointing. Your observation about empowering and training customer service reps is right on and I wish more companies understood this. Best wishes as you do your research and make your decision. By the way, what do you usually bake? And in what size batches? 🌼Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Hi Michele
Thank you! I bake bread around 2x per week. I use around 6 cups flour. Gonna binge watch your channel for inspiration and more tips!
Kenwood mixers haven't been made in the UK for years; they're Chinese now.
Have you looked local for an appliance repair business? :D
@@robine916I live in a tourist trap area in Florida. There are some RUclips channels I'm looking at that show about greasing gears etc on a Kitchen Aid.
An absolutely helpful and delightful presentation! I really found the dough pail interesting. My grandmothers always did their breads and pastries (Eastern European) by hand but I can see how they would have loved the Ankarsrum.
I will keep an eye on your channel. Thank you! After years of considering my needs for bread dough and puff pastry dough needs, we finally just bought an Ankarsrum and I am so thrilled. I love it. Its as if I had it for years. The engineer who designed this machine was truly blessed by God. Enjoy!
Thank you for your absolutely delightful comment! 💐 Enjoy your mixer, it will serve you well. ~ Michele
Thank you for the great information. I’ve been leaning toward the Ankarsrum for a while and this demonstration just sealed the deal. God bless you.
I'm glad it was helpful, Kimberly. That is exactly what I was hoping to do - make it easier for people to choose the right mixer for their kitchen. So thank you for letting me know. It means a lot. 💐 Michele
I love my Bosch. You can make 6 standard size sandwich loaves in one hour. I haven't for several years because I only make sourdough now: but, if I needed fast bread I'd make the six loaves of yeast bread. It can handle a huge batch of gingersnap cookies. I had a Kitchen Aid, but the Bosch is so much better and we bought all the extras that go with the machine; we can do everything. We love our Bosch. We were referred by, Mary's Nest
I'm glad you're making good use of your Bosch. There are a lot of really nice attachments for it! It is a quality machine and a great help in the kitchen. 🌸 Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage if the economy gets better I might have to try the Ankus Room.
@@Kathleen67. it's worth saving up for, but if you're happy with your Bosch you're in good shape.
Hi Kathleen! Do you ever use your Bosch to help you with your sourdough bread? I am trying to choose a mixer and I am interested in making sourdough.
@@rachelr9937 That's the funny thing, I bought the Bosch with all the attachments and started making sourdough the month after; no need for a mixer with sourdough! And, you can make anything with sourdough. I highly recommend the Jovial Foods Sourdough Cookbok. If you are serious about sourdough, you will love that cookbook, it's my favorite of all of my cookbooks. Oh wait, that cookbook is for Ezekiel flour; I grind Ezekial wheat berries as I make my baked goods. The Mockmill is the best for grinding flour. For Hard Red Wheat flour, I would recommend Mary's Nest on RUclips; if you love cooking there's not a question she doesn't answer in her videos and she's as sweet and kind as the day is long.
I owned the Bosch and then bought the Swedish made Ankarsrum and there is no comparison. The Swedish mixer is far superior in every way. The US made mixer is only good for making 3-4 pizza balls and it will walk itself right off the counter. Don’t waste your money. I can make 14#’s of sourdough bread in the Swedish model with power to spare and it can be handed down to your grandkids.
I have the larger kitchen aid with the bowl that drops down. It definitely is better made than the other cheaper style. I’m pretty sure the bowl is larger than 5 quarts and also is make in the US. I don’t think the cheaper one is fully made in the US.
I’ve been using a Bosch for years now. It has never walked off the counter. I will be leaving mine to one of my kids. They are fully reparable, as are the KA mixers which I have also used for many years. I was going to give away the KA but decided to keep it. I use both of them regularly. Maybe if I used the Swedish one I would want it. But, I am 100% satisfied with the Bosch so wouldn’t bother thinking about it. My Bosch has the stainless bowl and came with many attachments. I have a blender attachment and want to get the meat grinder as well. It’s a fantastic machine.
Bosch is not, "The US made mixer". See my comment. @@pattymc4726
I’ve owned a Bosch for 17 years and my mom and sisters have had Bosch for a lot longer than that. They are excellent machines that have been around a long time. Most people who have Bosch mixers love them and would buy them again if their original mixers ever died though I have yet to meet someone whose Bosch died. The Ankarsrum appears to be a good machine but I disagree it’s that much better than a Bosch.
I owned both and sold the ankarsrum, the Bosch mixes better and attachments don’t require small mortgage. The ankarsrum is incredibly well made but a hefty brute. The Bosch has sticky feet so will not wobble on counter. I found you needed to baby the ankarsrum more.
I have a pink kitchen aid artisan and i sooo love it ...i made big christmas cakes in it..its marvellous
Pink is so pretty, I bet it looks gorgeous in your kitchen. Your Christmas cakes sound intriguing! 🌸Michele
I think the Bosch is the most versatile and I have one since the 70’s that works beautifully! I may add I love white appliances. They match everything! As a professional chef, I use it the most and actually gave my professional Kitchen Aid mixers to another family who loves it and could not afford one. I love the Assistant in the commercial setting and loved mine very much. When I retired, I kept my Bosch. It will last my life time.
Thank you so much for your video. All these machines are quality. Mixers are like perfume; very subjective.
Well said, Vicky, and thank you for the lovely comment! It's nice to hear from a professional chef. I love that you gave your KAs to someone who would use and appreciate it/them. ~Michele
A "professional chef" using consumer-end appliances... yeah okay.
@ since I no longer need larger commercial size appliances, I simply use what I enjoy for my own needs.
@@vickyburton2434 Kitchen-Aid mixers are not commercial-size appliances.
I have both Kitchen and Bosch. I treasure both. I have had my Kitchen Aid for close to35 years and it still works great. The Bosch is about 15 years old and is awesome for making large batches of dough. I have made as many as 10 Loaves. My older model came with two sizes of bowls. One for about 5 loaves, the other for 10. Mixing beaters are different for each bowl.
The older KitchenAids are superior to the newer models. You'll want to hang onto it! Interesting about the 2 bowl sizes. Thanks for the tip! ~Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage, the old Universal, (not
plus) has 2 bowls, one looks like your Plus model,
and a LARGE stainless steel bowl. That bowl is
basically for breads and cookies, only the dough
hook works with it. 10 loaves of bread, equals
about 20 batches of cookies.
steve
I have had the Bosch Universal Plus, and now have an older Bosch. What I would say, is that for bread dough, the steel bowl without the center pole and with a bottom mounted dough hook is the best. By far the best! Why? The dough can not climb up and make a mess to clean. It has more room for larger doughs. It can also knead smaller doughs. The dough hook is machine washable. And when you tip out the dough onto the table, the dough hook will sit on top of the dough instead of underneath it, and can easily be removed without a mess. The dough hook has a scraper that scrapes the sides and bottom of the bowl.
I bought an older Bosch that originally had that bowl with the bottom mounted dough hook, because I did not know that I could just buy that bowl from Bosch and use it on a modern Universal Plus. And that is what I highly will recommend for people that bake bread, get that bowl without the center console and every issue and annoying things will disappear. Plus you can make a really huge batch in that bowl, if you wish. It is a fantastic bowl that will make bread baking so much easier for you Bosch users.
Great information, thank you! ~Michele
Thank ypu. What Bosch mixer would you recommend?
Ankarsrum was originally Electrolux. My mother had one so I decided to buy one myself. It is the best with its different attachments and accessories.
I just found this. I want to make my own bread at home. I do appreciate your honesty and opinion in this video.. thank you!
I have had all three of the mixers in this video and concur with your findings. The Ankarsrum is by far the best one, aptly named "the assistant," because it will knead while you do other things. I love it. So far it has been a foolproof appliance that does what it says it does. I went thought five KA's (one, with a glass bowl, bounced off the counter and three burned out the motor and/or gears.). The KA was a pain for adding ingredients and handling lots of bread dough. The Bosch didn't last long because it is flimsy plastic - it felt and looked like a toy and did not handle large amounts of bread dough. The steel Ankarsrum has been a staple in many other countries and will last a lifetime because of its construction.
That antique bread pail is so neat! I’ve never seen one of those before. Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome! I don't know how common they were in all parts of the country and I would guess many of them have been thrown away over the years, unfortunately. 🌸Michele
Hello , I'm here from Mary's Nest, and I so enjoy when she recommends Channels! I have a KitchenAid, and I so enjoy it ... it looks like " Cast Iron ", which I love. I hadn't seen one like until I got it.
Yes, back in my childhood and teenage years, my Grandmother made bread, homemade Cinnamon Rools, and all sorts of biscuits, etc by hand.
You are blessed to have such warm and wonderful memories of your Grandmother. ❤️ And I bet you are an accomplished baker yourself. Thank you for visiting, isn't Mary the sweetest? 🌸Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage ....thank you, for your kind and lovely reply ..
Oh, I wouldn't go so far, but that's a nice thought... lol. ..about my baking. She was really a great cook, and the only time she measured anything was baking, she taught me a lot. Yes, nice memories. 😊❤️.
I agree, Miss Mary is the sweetest, but again, she has good company. Blessings ~ S.
@@texasstardust6010 thank you for your sweet comment. Just remember, you're your Grandmother's granddaughter.
Love my ankarsrum!!! My kitchen aid couldn’t keep up with all the bread making!
I've never heard of the ankarsrum mixer. It looks so beautiful. Using less flour sounds ideal. This is definitely a dream kitchen appliance for me! Thank you for your product comparison.
You're welcome and thank you for your kind comment. Here is the link to the printable shopping comparison: chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/
🌸 Michele
Thank you for the breakdown of each piece of equipment. I’m from ND. My grandma and my mom used the Bosch. My moms gave up its ghost last year. She got hers in the early 1980s when my aunt and uncle were distributors for the company.
What a great testimonial! Forty-some years of use is wonderful! Thank you for your comment. It's so helpful to hear how long the Bosch has lasted. Michele
Excellent review just Hubby and I often make my bread by hand enjoy artisan bread I’ve enjoyed my Kitchen Aid for 40 years cheers from Pennsylvania Blessings 🙏🙏🙏👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you, Wanda! I appreciate the blessings very much. Keep baking and enjoying your homemade bread. 🌸 Michele
Great video, very informative. I just bought my first KitchenAid 8 quart commercial mixer. I figure go big or go home. Looking forward to using it for these holidays. Thank you for your input on this subject.👍👍😁
Mary sent me! Glad she did! I have a kitchenaid and a Bosch. I use and enjoy both! The KA stays on my counter and the Bosch sits in my pantry until I need to make a large quantity of bread. The ankarsrum is a beauty but pricey! So glad I don’t have to hand crank the old one!!
Hi Pamela, God bless Mary! The KA is such a beautiful piece of kitchen equipment, isn't it? Good for small jobs. The Bosch is great for big batches of bread. I'm glad you are happy with both. And yes, count your lucky stars that we home bakers are not limited to a hand crank bucket for bread making! 🌸Michele
30 yr old universal Bosch mixer has probably made 1000 loaves over its lifetime, the blender is very seldom used.
The bowl bulges,but doesnt break.
Pros lightweight, splatter shield,secondary cover.
Cons center hub isn't easy to clean.
4.5 qt Kitchenade 15 years for general mixing ,but occasionally for bread.
Pros open bowl easy to clean,splatter shield, more than 10 accessories like ice cream maker can be added to front of the head.
Cons heavy,weaker motor,tall and can hit upper cabinets while tilting.
For large batches of bread get the Bosch,for everything else get the larger 6qt Kitchenade in my opinion.
Have not tried the Assistant.
Nice comparison!
So what you’re saying is… I can bake.. I just haven’t developed my bakers intuition. What a relief. 😮💨
Don't sell yourself short. You have it in you. Regular practice makes you confident. I've seen you bake some beautiful loaves.
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i dont know how to make bread..but when i enrolled my self yesterday.. i was so emotional.. i did it ..
Don't worry, she doesn't have it either if she's talking about "recipes". With true baker's intuition you just throw ingredients in the bowl by feel.
I have had a kitchenaid for 25+ years. I use it for pizza dough but have never used it for bread. I use a no knead recipe for bread and bake it in a dutch oven. It turns out the BEST artisan bread ever!
See? Bread doesn't have to be kneaded. It's the most widely popularized myth, next to waiting 30 minutes to go swimming after eating (also a myth).
I have had my kitchen aid for over 50 years and for several years had my own cake business. I also had 6 children and baked my own bread when they were young. Now with only me and my husband I don’t use it much. Make things mostly by hand now.
@carolhamilton5164
Think of all the happiness that kitchen aid mixer has made over the years. Nice to know you had a part in it!
I was excited to see the antique bread pail.
I recently acquired one to go with my antique dough bowl for proofing dough. Made out of the same type of metal as the dough pail. I wasn't sure how many of them were still around and it has all the parts. I am so excited to use it. I love kitchen antiques. Thank you for the info as far as the time periods they were used.
Enjoyed your mixer comparison and I am leaning towards the ankarsrum. I have kitchen aids but find with freshly milled flour, the kitchen aid struggles and I have one of the more powerful ones.
It's so nice to hear from someone who appreciates a good old-fashioned bread pail. The antique ones were built sturdy, but as they fell out of favor they have become less common an item to find at yard sales and antique shops. I did recently find a modern version with a plastic bucket and stainless steel dough hook on Amazon. a.co/d/2sRQnrq It doesn't have near the charm of the metal ones, though! Enjoy your kitchen antiques and best wishes on choosing a heavy duty stand mixer that suits your needs. Blessings, Michele
I just found your channel, wanted to get into baking with my wife for a while but never had the motivation to start until watching your channel. Thank you!
Welcome aboard, so glad you stopped by. Do you have a mixer or are you contemplating one for baking? 🥣Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage no mixer yet, we were thinking eventually the Ankasrum just because it seems quieter, has a more mechanically simple design for the motor, as well as the 7 year warranty but we decided to also take your advice and bake by hand first to get an understanding of how the dough should feel.
@@nashonabo821 the warranty is hard to beat. You won't be disappointed. It is worth saving up for, since it is a big purchase. Very smart to learn to make bread by hand first. It really helps you get acquainted with the process and that understanding will carry over to when you have a mixer. 🌼Michele
I learned a lot about the different types of stand mixers. I don't have one yet, thank you very much.
I am glad it was helpful, Audrey. I will add a link to the printable comparison chart for you below! 💐 Best wishes on your decision. Michele
chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/
excellent presentation. to the point, no 'fluff" and detailed enough to get some idea of what these mixers have to offer. since you also have individual videos dealing with each mixer, I'll look at those too!
Thank you very much! 🌸 Michele
I also have all three of these machines and each one of them performs better at different things. It might seem like overkill for most home bakers, but I don't regret getting any And all but the KA I bought secondhand (as that is how I always try to buy things). I've have them all for over a decade and they all get regular use.
Another mixer connoisseur. 🍷 I'm curious which one(s) you keep on the counter. Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Actually none. I have a mudroom next to the kitchen which is also a pantry of sorts. I have them all on the counter in that room.
The one I love the most is the Ank. The Bosch is OK and I have that thing all blinged out with all the accessories (secondhand). I bought the flaker for it, so I flake my own oats. It's probably the one I would keep if I can have only one... I guess? But it's not great for small batches.
The KA I find inferior in every way except it's good for making italian meringue. I would NEVER use it for bread. And it's the heaviest!
@@melissasinclair9303 your mudroom/pantry sounds nice. Very handy. I have the flaker for the Ankarsrum and really like it. How old is your KA?
Loved the antique bread pail demo.
Thank you Maam..🥰🙏🏻 i've been confused to buy between bosch or ankarsrum... now i can make a decision 💐
I'm glad it was helpful! They're both wonderful machines. 🥀 Michele
I have oneankarsrum that's 50 years old. still working perfectly, it has been handed down in the family.... quality like they used to do!
I have a Bosch. It's amazing how much dough it will handle. Before they made the scraper, it left stuff on the center pillar, but the scraper fixed that. It's wonderful for pizza. You can make dough for lots of pizzas in one batch.
You can get a Bosch with a steel bowl. It does a good job with sausage, too.
Kitchenaid is warning people that its mixers burn out if dough kneading exceeds two minutes.
Thanks for sharing. I heard that and thought it was sad. KitchenAid was historically a very respected brand.
Hi, thanks for the comparison. I've been using the "Ank"-- Magic Mill Assistant, for about 20 years. It easily handles 2.2 kilograms of whole grain flour. That's 5 big 850-900 gram loaves in a standard bread pan. 4 1/2" x 8 1/2". Baker's %-the water is variable, not the flour. Plus, that is using professional technique -incorporating ingredients, including DIY, a 30 minute autolyse without salt. Then add salt;- knead 10 minutes. Engineered! Bosch climbs up and gets in the center gear. It has "pinch points." Kitchen Aid is only for cupcakes. Have a friend that got a kitchen aid, and it died on the first batch if bread. They returned it, and called me. After they received their "Ank," they were so glad they invested in the "Ank." I've used it to make 100% sprouted bread also. IMHO, "Ank" is the only one worth it.
Thanks so much for this informative video, Michele! You have left me thinking more about the Ankarsrum.
Thank you! I'm glad it was helpful, Sherry. ❤️Michele
Love this video! Thank you for sharing!
You guys are my heroes, thank you so much!
I have a cuisinart stand mixer that I use for bread to save wear and tear on my kitchenaid. The only issue I have with it is the paddle and dough hook aren’t very well engineered and leave a lot of unincorporated ingredients in the bottom of the bowl. The kitchenaid always gets everything and it’s pretty and has a ton of great attachments so I end up using it more now but I’m glad to have the cuisinart because the motor is BULLETPROOF.
Lovely video, thank you. One correction though. I have a Bosch mixer that looks just like the one in your video and it is 800 watts--not 325 as stated. The KitchenAid next to it is probably the 325 watt mixer. I've been using Bosch mixers for about 25 years and have had excellent results with baking 4 large loaves of Khorasan wheat bread on a regular basis. I can mix triple and quadruple batches of cookies, etc. The Bosch is highly recommended. Would love to see the Ankasrum in action as it appears to be a high quality machine. Wishing you many blessings!
800 was the old method of evaluating wattage. Today, the same motor is considered 500 watts. Idk why…
Edit: actually, I sort of do; they changed the method for ratings in the US recently, but am unsure why they changed that.
Hi Michelle, Mary sent me over to your Channel i have a kitchen Aid and I haven't tried baking bread yet so I am so greatful for your tips tfs!
Hi Sylvia, our Mary is the sweetest, isn't she? Thank you for coming by. ❤️ I am working on a series of bread making videos, so you can get comfortable with your beautiful KitchenAid mixer. What color do you have?
@@ChocolateBoxCottage silver, I look forward to your upcoming bread videos.
@@sylviajackson7596 thank you, that means a lot! 🌸
I am in awe of contestant #3. I want one. The bread pail is awesome too.
It's worth saving up for! 🌹 Michele
if you're a KA or Bosch owner, one try with the Ankarsrum and you'll toss the other two. All things considered, from use to clean up, there's no comparison.
Spoken like an Ank owner. Each brand has its fans for sure. I bought my first one (it was called Magic Mill Assistent then) in 1997 and sure have enjoyed it over the years. Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Hell! Just wanted tosay, this KA is'nt the professional model, it's a medium sized model, so clearly it has problems with some doughs. The pfoessional has a 6,9 Liter bowl and costs much more ( between 1.200- 1.490€ !) than this one here. The professional should mix dough without any problems, she's bigger, you cant lift the head, you habe to lift the bowl instead. KA is often better, because of full metal and you can repair it well,all components fit for every model
I have a newer (from the 90s)dough pail. It’s great for kids to crank. Good for off grid or grid down situations. Esp in today’s world!
Love my DLX kitchen center. It’s now called Ankarasum but mine was made in Sweden also so I’m guessing it’s the same product. It looks identical but there’s no extra bowl for whipped cream etc. I have tons of accessories too. Great machine. 6 loaves 100% whole grain bread, no sweat.
If you have more than 1 or 2 kids buy it, period. Sooooo much you can do with it. Mine sits on my counter.
Really! I didn't know dough pails were still made. How interesting! About your DLX, yes it is the same machine. It has gone through several name changes over the years. It did not used to include the clear bowl or the dough hook.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage I got the dough hook with mine
But I might have ordered it with that one attachment. I always used the hook and spatula. But I always make 100% wholegrain. Greatest machine ever! The KA are a joke and I still think the DLX has always been a better machine than the Bosch-all my friends got Bosch as that was well what they all were getting lol I researched more!
Check out Urban Homemaker for all things bread and cooking. I think that’s were my dough pail came from, yrs ago. Also The Bread Beckers is a good family company. Excellent cookbook too. Amazon is out right now. I got it out of a library once tho.
@@YeshuaKingMessiah Urban Homemaker usually has a good sale around Mother's Day. I might go take a peek!
I Bought a Kitchen Aide about a year ago (mistake it,s Gutless for 2 loaves of Bread) Bought a Bosh 5/2024 for Mothers day... WOW what a Nice Difference. The Bosh Is a KEEPER / WINNER
So glad you're happy with your Bosch! 🌸 Michele
I have both the Ankarsrum and the Bosch. I have had them both for a very long time. The Ankarsrum is absolutely wonderful for kneading bread dough. I do not like it for mixing heavy thick cookie dough. I prefer the Bosch for that. For this reason, I believe the Bosch is more versatile, iif you can only afford one or only have room for one. I have even used the dough hook in the Bosch for processing ground venison to make sausage. After all these years, my Ankarsrum can only run at one low speed. If I speed it up even slightly, it speeds up out of control. I wonder if it can be repaired? Maybe it's time to purchase a new one.
That doesn't sound right. You should be able to make cookie dough, mix up meat for giant batches of meatballs and anything you can do with the Bosch using your Ankarsrum Assistent. I'd see about having it repaired. ~ Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thanks for the reply. Maybe I need a tutorial on how to use my Ankarsrum correctly. It has the wire paddles that do not look strong enough for a thick cookie dough. The literature that came with it states that these paddles are for cake batters and whipping cream. I used the dough roller to cream together the sugar and butter on a thick cookie dough. It worked, but not a nicely as the thick strong cookie paddles on the Bosch mixer. Do you know anything about the new mixer put out by NutriMill? It looks very similar to the Bosch but slightly smaller. I would like to see a video on that mixer. Thanks.
Thank you for your time making this video. Me and my wife are trying to find a good one for bread and this helped alot.
Love my Kitchenaid. Especially for brioche dough.
Hi Linda, now there's a luxury bread. YUM.
Bosch has all the attachments you mentioned as well. Bosch is excellent!
I came over here from Mary's Nest. So glad I did. I'm looking forward to learning more!
Why thank you, Veronica! I appreciate your vote of confidence.🌸Michele
Thank you for this video! I just started milling my own flour and my KitchenAid Pro 600 struggles. I had heard of the Bosch but not the Ankersrum.
My first Kitchen aid lasted so long well over 25 years and never broke down, gave it to my granddaughter and she is still using it but didn't have that kind of luck with two more I had. my Bosch is doing great after 5 years, I never owned a Ankasrum but don't need another mixer, I also use a Cusinart which makes good bread very fast. its over 20 years old and still going.
Thank you! Your review was excellent and informative. I have a much better idea of which machine to get now. really enjoyed learning about the bread pail. ingenious!
I am so glad you found it helpful. A good mixer is worth saving up for. Sharing about the bread pail was fun - I figured many people had never heard of one. It was the first "manual" heavy duty stand mixer! LOL! It works if you work it! 🌸 Michele
I have been making bread with a kitchenaid mixer for almost 5 years, and I've had to get it repaired twice. I'm now told that you shouldn't use it for more than 2 minutes for dough then let it rest for 20 minutes. WHAT no way. Sourdough takes a long time to mix, so for me my KA has just become an expensive bench ornament. I have since purchased a Ankarsrum and I love it, it is a work horse, it is amazing.
which model you used? The professional can do it but not the other, smaller ones. Here in the videothisis'nt aprofessiinal KA mashine, its maybe 6L Artisan or somesimilar.
I have the kitchenaid mixer, just like the one you’ve shown and I love it. I really don’t use it much, unless I want to make bread or rolls. That’s mainly at Holidays. It does the job well. I use my hand mixer more than anything. Just two of us, no need for a bigger one, although if I did, I would buy the Ankarsrum. It’s quite handsome. Thanks for your video. It’s very informative for those that are looking for bigger and better.
Thank you for your very kind comments. It sounds like you've got what you need - which is perfect. Blessings, Michele
Ive owned a kitchenaid 350w Pro 5qt stand mixer for 20 years now ... but I generally dont use it for most styles of bread, which are best fabricated BY HAND. I mostly use my stand mixer for the various attachments I use - grain mill, pasta roller, meat grinder, sausage stuffer, etc.
Different styles of bread have different fabrication needs, whereas a stand mixer is only good for mixing and general kneading.
Classic artisinal sourdough for example doesnt like excessive kneading - after mixing, the goal is not so much gluten development (much of which happens automatically as a result of enzymatic autolysis) but rather gluten alignment and layering, which must be done by hand via iterative pull & fold motions. A stand mixer cannot do that - it can only mix.
The only styles of bread I use the stand mixer for is neapolitan pizza dough, which is unstructured (esp if im making a lot and planning to portion and freeze it) and the initial stages of pita dough.
1 suggestion: anyone planning to use a grain mill attachment should prioritize the power and torque rating. My 350w pro is fine for all uses, but for milling grain it is rather anemic. Chickpeas for example can cause the gears to strip if fed too quickly, so I recommend no less than 500w and preferrably 700w+ for those looking to mill their own grains, pulses and legumes into flour.
You might be surprised. Conventional wisdom says that sourdough must be made by hand, but the Ankarsrum Assistent fitted with roller and scraper does an excellent job gently squeezing dough, which closely mimics human hands. It's hard to describe unless you have seen it. I have a feeling you might like the Ankarsrum. Thanks for watching and for your articulate and thoughtful comments. ~ Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thank you for the informative reply.
I would like to add that "squeezing" (sic) has more to do with the mixing I mentioned, and less with the requisite stretch & folding that aligns and layers the gluten structure (to help a sourdough loaf hold onto it's CO2, esp in high hydration doughs). The further you go above say 75% hydration, the less useful a stand mixer is for breadmaking, and the more necessary it is to use good manual technique.
All that being said, I look forward to watching the remainder of the vid, as my KSM5 wearing out, and increasingly underpowered for some of my needs.
Cheers, and +1
Good job and good information. Love that antique bread mixer - I did not know there was such a thing. I could see it being a workout!
Yes, quote the workout. Maybe they weren't available in Canada? The usual homemaking, gardening, and homesteading tasks/chores are enough to keep a person in shape -no gym membership required!
I've heard that old KA mixers are well worth it, not so modern ones. I have burnt gears on 2 and now I am considering to get an Ankarsrum. Very informative video. Thank you!
I don’t have any experience with the Bosh mixer. The kitchen aid mixer is not what it used to be back when Hobart used to make them. The Ank is a totally different way of making bread. The Ank is a breast of a mixer that has so much more power but it works so much differently.
I agree, Mindy. I have an old Hobart made KitchenAid and will never part with it. The Bosch is different than either KA or Ankarsrum. They each have their own style. Since most of us home cooks learn on a KA, it affects how we approach other mixers and we don't realize it.
@@ChocolateBoxCottage the Ankarsrum mixer scared me bad with making the first bread. I followed the directions and still felt the need to hand knead to make sure I got the window pane lol. I have now learned to trust it but it was a learning experience
@@Mindy56743 that's a good point. Learning to trust that the mixer is doing its job is a big step! 🙂 Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottagehow would you compare the Hobart KA to the others? Is it capable of more? I have one and am not sure if that means I don’t actually need a Bosch or Ank?
Best mixer by far is the Kenwood chef. Owned the same one and made bread regularly for 45 years.
I have heard good things about the Kenwood Chef, also.🌷 Michele
ive got one of those too and i absolutely love it, also love the sleek design :)
I've decided on the bosch. I've had a kitchen aid, and the lower wattage and how the head bounces around makes me want to go with the bosch. The ankarshrum is out of my budget. Thanks for the video.
Great video. Loved the pictures that were added to the video.
Oh yes, editing...my favorite part. LOL!! I'm not a tech girl, you know me, but I am having to figure it out as I go! 🌸Michele
Thank you for this information. My KA is 12 years and just started struggling on dough so I ordered the Nutrimill Artiste. Didn't mix my eggs and 2nd time use I had to get in there and work my dough. I just got back from UPS store to return it. I hopefully will receive my Bosch Mixer and my Nutrimill Grinder tomorrow. Both were on sale with accessories for mothers day. All that to say I loved this video and perfect timing! 💖
If you ever replace the Nutrimill you might want to try the Mockmill; it's amazing.
How disappointing that the first mixer you bought didn't perform. I'm glad you were able to return it and get both a Bosch + a grain mill! You have a lot of baking fun ahead of you! I'm adding videos weekly, so I hope to have more to offer you soon. Thanks for visiting! 🌸Michele
@@Kathleen67.yes the mockmill is amazing. Whenever I see videos reviewing the nutrimill it seems so much harder to use then my
Mockmill.
The expected life of a kitchenaid is 10 years? The 20 year old ones we beat the heck out of at the restaurant I worked at and my 30 year old kitchenaid I use at home must be real outliers! I’ve been incredibly fortunate to stumble onto 3 kitchenaids that were so resilient!
You are fortunate to have an older model KitchenAid. The new ones have a shortened life expectancy. ~ Michele
Mine is 27 years and going strong, but I just started using FMF to make bread in August and am afraid I might be pushing the limits on my sweet KA classic. My mom's KA is from 1978 and still going strong, tho she only ever makes cookies, cakes, and quick breads in it.
What kind of backyard bootleg "restaurant" doesn't own a Hobart?
You should really do these videos more often. This should be used as an example on videos to compare products. Just perfect thanks
Lexie, thank you for your very nice compliment! ~Michele
I've been making homemade bread in my grandmother's bread pale since I was little. We made bread homemade bread every week. My Dad and brothers would take turns turning the dough, so Yes!, it is some kind of workout turning it. I do it myself now by wrapping my legs around the pale turn hold it still while cranking it. 😆 I only do this once or twice a year and make about 20 loaves of bread at a time to give to family for holidays. The bread pale is from 1908.🙂
Oh my goodness, I love this! 20 loaves, wow! Your relatives are blessed. ❤️ I'm laughing because what I didn't mention in the video is that I often sat on the kitchen floor with my legs wrapped around the pail, LOL! The clamp didn't work that well so that was my workaround. Have a wonderful evening, blessings to you! Love, Michele
Mary suggested your channel and glad I stopped by!
Thank you, Linda! I appreciate your visit!
I had the Swedish one a few years ago and just didn’t care for it, I sold it for more then I paid for it. I bought a Viking Mixer and I absolutely love it.
I'm glad you found the mixer that suits you best. 🌼 Blessings, Michele
I am used to my Kitchen Aid - it's okay...I used my Ankasrum today for the first time to make some scones - it was really quick and easy
Thank you for making this comparison. Great info and I love your aunt's pail. :)
For fresh milled grain dough it is my understanding that the kitchenaid is not good because it is just not strong enough to handle the heavy dough. The best for that are the other two mentioned and nutrimill artiste. They don't have the missing arms on top but in the base making them better suited for bread doughs. Thank you for the information on the ones mentioned though.
Perhaps - the directions that come with the KA machine state it can handle 6 cups of whole wheat flour. I'm just taking them at their word. I have found 6 cups is okay, but wouldn't go over that amount. ~Michele
Thank you for the comparaison! Very interesting!
You're welcome, Renee! If you want more info, you can find a printable side-by-side comparison of the 3 mixers here: chocolateboxcottage.tv/videos/kitchenaid-vs-bosch-vs-ankarsrum/
~Michele
Love this video! This is a great comparison and something no one else has done so concisely. Of course, some of us who are total mixer geeks, own one of each...🙃
Not naming any names though! Haha!
Great story about your baking heritage. I too have a German Oma who baked for the family and farm hands in an outdoor wood fired oven when possible and in the house during the winter season. She used a wooden trough that my Opa made and I'm obsessed with that idea. I've learned that hand mixing in a large oval container (2 1/2 gallon rubbermaid found at Walmart) is great for large quantities... the larger the better. I'm on the fence about a mixer as I get older and am wondering.... how much time does using the Akarsrum save you over the course of a week, a month or a year? I find a lot of my time is spent prepping the add ins, like chopping the soaked sunflower and pumpkins seeds, pickled red onions, olives, rosemary and any other thing I want to add. Is owning a mixer really a time saver? I'm 63 and have never owned one, lol.
I've had the entry model Kitchen Aid for over 25 years. Its a good mixer -- will mix the heck out of cake batter and other similar batters. My wife and I have made hundreds, maybe even thousands, of mixes for all kinds of things -- mostly desserts -- and I've made SOME bread in it. However, contrary to any assertion here, it is NOT a bread mixer. It is a poor mixer for bread kneeding. I've never gotten a good bread mix from it and thus bought a bread machine to do the bread mix. However, if you buy a higher end KA mixer -- the one with the SPIRAL dough hook -- I believe that MIGHT work. It will certainly work better. But these last way longer than 10 years. At least, the older ones did. Mine shows no signs of giving up, though I haven't tried to make bread with it in close to 20 years.
I understand what you're saying...many people buy it for bread making. It's great you have one of the older model KAs. They were well-built. Your desserts sound great. Blessings, Michele
wow! lovely comparison of the 3 types of stand mixer. Thank you so very much!
I really enjoy knowing something new - Antique Bread Pail, that's so cool! thank you!😊
Thank you, Issy! I'm glad you enjoyed it, along with seeing how the old-school "breadmaker" works. Having used one, it sure makes me appreciate my electric mixer! 💖 Michele
Comparisons of expensive kitchen appliances can be very helpful. In my view the best feature a KitchenAid mixer has over other mixers is, when they break they can be inexpensively repaired and made as good as a brand new mixer. The fact that they are made out of metal instead of cheap plastic makes this possible. Other mixers are generally throw away items and are generally discarded when they break down. The ;most frequent repair item in a KitchenAid mixer is a nylon worm gear that will disintegrate if the mixer is overloaded. This feature saves the motor and other components from being damaged. The gear is readily available and costs less than $10.00. The entire transmission assembly costs around $15.00.
My kitchen aid mixer higher speed gears went after weekly 1 loaf bread for 3 years. The repair cost is over $300. Sooo I upgraded to a Bosch….
OK, I'm a mechanic, and not just cars.
That being said, I don't know if the Bosch
is easy to repair. Never seen one that needs it.
I'm the second of 7 kids, mom had one, and
5 siblings had Bosch Universal mixers. My
holdout brother borrowed one of mine, when
his KA died for the third time. He wouldn't
give it back!
steve
Thank you so much for this video. It helps a lot when looking for a mixer.
We have a thirty year old kitchen aid with the bowl lift. It been.good but has always struggled with heavier doughs. Good thing I re-fell in love with hand mixing and kneading. I’ve been contemplating increasing my baking production so that I can sell things at the farmers markets in the area not that I’ve retired. The Ankarsrum sounds like the way to go. I’ll keep the KA for whipping cream, egg whites etc. doing those by hand can be too labor intensive. Thanks for the Video.
Do hang onto your older KitchenAid. It's a better, stronger machine than the new ones. As for expanding production and turning your baking into a small business, Ankarsrum is a good choice. You might consider joining the Ankarsrum mixer USA fans group on Facebook (if you use FB). There are several farmers market bakers who can answer questions you have. Best wishes on your baking! Love, Michele
Really love your home, so wonderful landscape
Thank you!
Thank you so much! Michele
Good job of showing the comparisons and capabilities that should be considered before such a purchase. 🍞
I am inclined towards the Swedish mixer.🎉😊
I want a machine that is great for making bread but that i can also use for cookies cakes whipped cream bearing eggs. Something that can handle whatever I need to do in the kitchen! Which brand is best for that? Thanks
Thank you so much, I loved your video, it's very informative.
Kitchen aid only for my experience. But the first one lasted for I'd guess 40 years. We sold it for what we paid for it used as we got a free upgrade, another Kitchenaid from a pro cook. I had to replace the gears. I think it cost $15 and hope it also lasts another 40 years. I make bread once a week so perfect for me.
i have the electrolux assistant (same constructions as the ankarsrum its from the late 50ies..... still work. still the same tools andni can b ankarsrums newer stuff to it. fantastic machine.
This was a pleasure to watch, thank you
I have the pink Ank… LOVE IT for large bread batches! Love a Bosch, too, but, sold it……and love my KA for other things.
Ohhh, another mixer connoisseur? And you have a pink Ankarsrum? They're rare as unicorns. I bet you're glad you got it while the color was available. Every time I walk in my kitchen the color makes me smile. 💖 Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage yes, the color is smile-worthy! Bought it right before they discontinued the color. (I have a matte pink Kitchenaid, too. ❤️) I hope you will do more videos. Just found you and find them well thought out, clear and encouraging. You’re a good speaker. Please continue to share.
@@robininva oh my, your comment just made my day! Blessings to you, Michele
This is a great video, Michele! Thank you!!
Ohhh thank you so much! Blessings to you! 🌸Michele
This was such a sweet and simple review video!! Thank you so very much! Blessings❤
Thank you for your kind words! 🌸 Michele
Thank you so much for this video comparing bread mixers. I've been looking to get one as I injured myself by hand mixing, heard something give in my shoulder, and developed a frozen shoulder that took weeks to heal. So, I most definitely need a machine to do the work that I used to be able to do when I was younger. lol I was looking into the Bosch until I started seeing more on the Ankarsrum. After your video, I am now leaning towards the Ankarsrum. I'm new to your channel and have just subscribed.
Welcome, Silli Lilli. 🌺 Making bread dough by hand is a workout, it sounds like you need a kitchen helper. The Ankarsrum Assistent is quiet and capable and does an excellent job kneading. The dough turns out very much like hand kneading, so I think you will be pleased. And thank you for subscribing! Blessings, Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Thank you, I'm glad I found your comparison video. I'll have to binge watch your other videos to catch up. I've been baking for over fifty years, yeah, I know I'm aging myself. lol I started in my pre-teens, Mom (RIP) taught me well.
P.S. I'm still young at heart.
@@sillililli01 how wonderful to have those memories of your Mom. ❤ ❤
I'm sure you have quite a bit of baking wisdom to share yourself! So your compliment is extra special to me. Thank you for taking the time to write.
Blessings, Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage If there is one tip I would give, garnered from my years of baking, is to reduce the sugar in recipes drastically. For instance, I don't put any sugar in my cheesecake recipe, the sweetness comes from any topping. I've never liked the first bite being too much sugar in any dessert, so I started, years ago, reducing sugar. Better for my health, too.
@@sillililli01 very good tip. Once taste buds have adjusted, we don't miss it. Thank you.
Great teaching, thank you for the comparison. I'm interested in the ankarsrum assistent. I wish I could experiment with the antique bread pail.
Thank you. The Ankarsrum is worth saving up for. The experience of using the bread pail to bake bread is something I wouldn't trade for anything. It really gave me an appreciation for what my grandmothers did to provide bread for their families. Not to mention the gardening and canning and cooking from scratch they did as there were not grocery stores nearby. 🌷Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage You're so right. This generation is very spoilt with options.
Great video, super informative professionally done
Such a kind comment, thank you very much! 🌻 Michele
Oh my goodness
I haven’t seen you in forever. I was on the bread making class on FB. Great to see you.
I’ve been thinking about getting my mom a good mixer and am thinking about the Ankararum
I knew immediately your name sounded familiar! How is your baking journey progressing? Is it on hold due to summer weather? 🌸 Michele
@@ChocolateBoxCottage Yes it’s on hold. It’s just to hot with the weather right now. I feel more comfortable with the active yeast breads but I want to do more of the sourdough bread. I still have my starter in the refrigerator but to be honest it’s been in there (I say sleeping) for a little bit now. I need to wake it up, feed it and try my hand at it again. With the packets you just open one up but with the sourdough starter what does one packet equate too?
Welcome back and I loved the video about the lemon trees. I’m gonna try that now. I love lemons and use them a lot.
@@abbystaggs2794 I understand, I'd rather spend time in the garden than in the kitchen right now myself. It is difficult to give a precise answer about subbing sourdough for yeast packets because it's more than just the yeast. There is the flour and water in the sourdough that need to be taken into consideration. And of course the timetable changes a lot between the two types. If you are reading the dough the way Carolyn teaches those skills carry over and yet look a little different. it's one of those things that you learn by feel. You've already got much of the basics so you will simply build on that foundation. There is no substitute for hands-on experience in baking. So...keep baking! It will fall into place. 🤗Michele
Only Kitchen Aid has the capacity for multi use such as food processor (that chops cubes!) ice cream maker, ice shaver, pasta maker, spiralizer etc…for that reason alone, I love it. If bread maker is the only thing you use maybe the Ankerushim is a better choice. But for all around machine that has mutli funtction Kitchen Aid is the way to go. IMO.