I'm glad that plastic shelf didn't fall over! And that the IIci didn't contain a leaky Max-Swell, unlike my recent iMac G3 pick-up... which I went full-send on (and got the matching smells of shorting electronics) as I didn't have this video as a reference to tell me not to!
Complete with "Louisiana Fairy Tale" by Fats Waller playing faintly in the background. "Hi. I'm Bob Vila..." 🤣🤣 I actually had an idea to make a show like that for old computers and call it "This Old Mac/Computer", but then I'd have to deal with copyright issues, getting sued, etc, it's just not worth it. Nice idea, though...
I've gotten really lucky, then. I got a handful of computers whose original PRAM batteries from 1991 were perfectly in tact. I still removed them immediately, but I was surprised and felt grateful.
All these tips are just as important for old PCs as well, especially those from 386-pentium as they could have nicad barrel batteries that like to leak.
Very cool and informative! While I haven’t really done much with classic Mac OS systems, they are awesome machines. Sure it’ll take some work and maintenance, but it’s definitely worth doing especially if the battery hasn’t caused damage. Speaking of which, you got super lucky, that’s really clean logic board! Great video!
I had a bit of a reorganise of one of my storage units, and found 6 boxes of logic boards (yes, 6 boxes) that I had stripped from some old Macs. I found 23 batteries and not one had swollen, but how many have 3.6v of charge?
Also 80-90's Apple, if I recall correctly told you to drop your computer from a certain height if it stopped working, that was due to cracks in the solder
@pablogirol The Apple /// had instructions like that given by computer shops but there is some confusion on if that was official Apple directions or not. Poor Apple ///!
Hey Steve - in some cases I have noticed that old capacitors with diminished capacitance need some power running through them for a while before they stabilize. If that's the case, and there is no leakage found, is it still dangerous to power on the system?
It really depends on the capacitors and the system. In some cases, like high end AV equipment - older caps which were made to higher standards can last longer and can be “reformed” and work okay. However, it is always wise to carefully inspect these things. I’ve witnessed caps that looked okay leak before my eyes due to the age of the seal keeping in the corrosive contents inside.
1:47 that's a Service Source original Apple Service Provider's only manual; before 2000 they came in CDs and were very comprehensive in taking apart every Mac model up to date; the troubleshooting section was so-so, as it only covered module replacement mostly. Overall good video, and let me add another must-have step: ESD measures.
What is the easily servicable and non AIO vintage 68k pre 1993 macintosh you would recommend to first time tinkerers? (no CC because that has 99% of the time dead CUDA chips)
I go over a few systems in my Vintage Apple Basic #1 video. The Centris/Quadra 650 isn’t bad - has plenty of expandability and the logic board is free of leaky caps. The LC series are okay too, but the Centris is way faster.
@@Mac84 Ah thanks. here in my country Sri Lanka a vintage mac is near impossible to find, the mostly used ones were the LC's and IIcx's it seems, and hopefully I find one without a stupid tadiran or maxell bomb inside it
Hey, I know this is a bit of s stretch, but i just recently got 2 iicis and one of them was kaput from an exploded battery, but the other wasn’t, but the rtc chip appears to be dead(wont show boot off known good hdd), after recapping with all tantalum’s, and even replacing the 32khz oscillator, and swapping chips from the bombed one. Is there potentially something I am missing?
Yes. You'll need to check and see that the traces on the top side of the logic board aren't damaged, which prevents the circuits from working right. If you have a multimeter, set it to "continuity test" and start probing around the board from point to point. Do this without hooking up the board to any power. If everything checks out, you might be OK. I'd recommend watching one of the videos from this channel or Branchus Creations that covers all this during a live stream to help with how to do proper checks on a damaged board. Both are very informative and thorough on the details of what to check and how to fix.
@minty_Joe my next video has a lot of random shuffling around in it. But it want done on purpose, it was because I needed to re-film things and bumped the camera a few times too 🤣
@@Mac84 It's like in Young Frankenstein, where the hump on I-gor's shoulder keeps switching sides. Or in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, the mole on Prince John's face keeps moving to different places.
@@Mac84 I believe the XPS used the same chassis, the round bits on the hinges made me think about it as I scrapped out a dead Studio 17 at work with the same screen
Steve, you just made my childhood come back to me! This machine was my first computer ever of my own! It was my dad's first, but then he got a Power Mac 8500 (of which as you may know/remember I have a version of and it's ULTRA upgraded.. I've not touched it in ages though). 13 year old me played many many hours of SimCity 2000 as well as messing with ResEdit and swapping out sounds in random apps. I also remember early audio editing with SoundEdit... I remember splicing together an audio clip of Mozart's Eine Kleine Nact Musik with clips from the movie "Amadeus" and a fart sound. Use your imagination and you'll be able to figure out what edit I made those many years ago. I miss those days. Thanks for this informative video.
Hello... is there a way to revive an old IIcx? I see a momentary green light, and then it powers down. I've looked inside, and as far as my inexperienced eyes can tell, there is no damage to the motherboard. Again, as far as I can see. (I also have no monitor for this thing.) Tanx!
I’d check out TinkerDifferent.com as the comments section is different to provide support in. It could be a bad power supply, it could be aging capacitors, it could be a short, many possibilities.
Thanks! I was using this adapter that lets me use an ATX PSU with the Mac IIci and similar models. anserine.co/products/beigeatx Also the shirt I’m wearing is available here: shop.mac84.net
RIP Ron. He died as he lived.
he lived, but then he didnt.
Thank you for once again including me in the fun!
6:56 i think i know wwhat went wrong you need a moniter
The modem was plugged into the printer port
That was a hoot! 😂
It's like the scene in Rick and Morty...
"And we have 1 screw turn, and 2 screw turns, aaannd..." *KABOOM!*
Love these collaboration videos always a fun time
As a leaking battery enthusiast, I am very offended
I'm glad that plastic shelf didn't fall over! And that the IIci didn't contain a leaky Max-Swell, unlike my recent iMac G3 pick-up... which I went full-send on (and got the matching smells of shorting electronics) as I didn't have this video as a reference to tell me not to!
Gotta love the Ron cameo! How many ImageWriters was Ron’s pay?
One for now, but I’ll send more soon!
Gives me “this old house” vibes. Just need a flannel shirt!
Complete with "Louisiana Fairy Tale" by Fats Waller playing faintly in the background.
"Hi. I'm Bob Vila..." 🤣🤣
I actually had an idea to make a show like that for old computers and call it "This Old Mac/Computer", but then I'd have to deal with copyright issues, getting sued, etc, it's just not worth it. Nice idea, though...
🔋You won the battery lottery! 🪫
Damn I get so triggered when I watch people with perfectly looking machines doing "smoke test" on 30+ year old systems and if it blow it blow WTF.
never seen a battery not explode in an old computer. you got lucky
Very lucky - I’ve had computers newer than this have exploded batteries!
I've gotten really lucky, then. I got a handful of computers whose original PRAM batteries from 1991 were perfectly in tact. I still removed them immediately, but I was surprised and felt grateful.
@@Mac84 Hello, it's possible that it was replaced before or there is any date that match the age of the computer.
I feel like I’ve been here before 😅
All these tips are just as important for old PCs as well, especially those from 386-pentium as they could have nicad barrel batteries that like to leak.
Oh certainly - we focus mainly on Macs here but it’s always good to lift the hood being plugging things in.
Very cool and informative! While I haven’t really done much with classic Mac OS systems, they are awesome machines. Sure it’ll take some work and maintenance, but it’s definitely worth doing especially if the battery hasn’t caused damage. Speaking of which, you got super lucky, that’s really clean logic board! Great video!
The IIci/cx were the best looking and most versatile form factor Apple has ever made.
I had a bit of a reorganise of one of my storage units, and found 6 boxes of logic boards (yes, 6 boxes) that I had stripped from some old Macs. I found 23 batteries and not one had swollen, but how many have 3.6v of charge?
RIP Ron. Dibs on his stuff
I can't love this video enough!
Babe wakeup, new Mac84 Vid ❤❤❤
90s Apple told you how to open your computer to fix it if it breaks. 2020s Apple just tells you how to open your wallet to buy a new one instead 🤑
Also 80-90's Apple, if I recall correctly told you to drop your computer from a certain height if it stopped working, that was due to cracks in the solder
@pablogirol The Apple /// had instructions like that given by computer shops but there is some confusion on if that was official Apple directions or not. Poor Apple ///!
Yeah, poor Apple /// it hurts to think someone did it and broke their computer
Hey Steve - in some cases I have noticed that old capacitors with diminished capacitance need some power running through them for a while before they stabilize. If that's the case, and there is no leakage found, is it still dangerous to power on the system?
It really depends on the capacitors and the system. In some cases, like high end AV equipment - older caps which were made to higher standards can last longer and can be “reformed” and work okay.
However, it is always wise to carefully inspect these things. I’ve witnessed caps that looked okay leak before my eyes due to the age of the seal keeping in the corrosive contents inside.
He said kill
1:47 that's a Service Source original Apple Service Provider's only manual; before 2000 they came in CDs and were very comprehensive in taking apart every Mac model up to date; the troubleshooting section was so-so, as it only covered module replacement mostly.
Overall good video, and let me add another must-have step: ESD measures.
yoooo its the poorly lit garage 🔥
Who all is here because Action Retro streamed this vid for all of 5 seconds? :D Cool! Another good retro channel to watch. :D
My check to Sean must have cleared, score!
Greg told us to come watch your video on his livestream so I subscribed
What is the easily servicable and non AIO vintage 68k pre 1993 macintosh you would recommend to first time tinkerers?
(no CC because that has 99% of the time dead CUDA chips)
I go over a few systems in my Vintage Apple Basic #1 video. The Centris/Quadra 650 isn’t bad - has plenty of expandability and the logic board is free of leaky caps. The LC series are okay too, but the Centris is way faster.
@@Mac84 Ah thanks. here in my country Sri Lanka a vintage mac is near impossible to find, the mostly used ones were the LC's and IIcx's it seems, and hopefully I find one without a stupid tadiran or maxell bomb inside it
Hey, I know this is a bit of s stretch, but i just recently got 2 iicis and one of them was kaput from an exploded battery, but the other wasn’t, but the rtc chip appears to be dead(wont show boot off known good hdd), after recapping with all tantalum’s, and even replacing the 32khz oscillator, and swapping chips from the bombed one. Is there potentially something I am missing?
Yes. You'll need to check and see that the traces on the top side of the logic board aren't damaged, which prevents the circuits from working right. If you have a multimeter, set it to "continuity test" and start probing around the board from point to point. Do this without hooking up the board to any power. If everything checks out, you might be OK.
I'd recommend watching one of the videos from this channel or Branchus Creations that covers all this during a live stream to help with how to do proper checks on a damaged board. Both are very informative and thorough on the details of what to check and how to fix.
@@minty_Joe Ah gocha, much appreciated, Ill do that when i get the chance
5:46 I think you had Clarus the Dogcow looking over right shoulder, probably giving you some good luck...
Steve should pull a Mel Brooks and move things like that into random spots during the video shoots, just to mess with us and see if we notice. 😂
@minty_Joe my next video has a lot of random shuffling around in it. But it want done on purpose, it was because I needed to re-film things and bumped the camera a few times too 🤣
@@Mac84 It's like in Young Frankenstein, where the hump on I-gor's shoulder keeps switching sides. Or in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, the mole on Prince John's face keeps moving to different places.
Was that a Dell Studio laptop above your head on that shelf?, I swear it looks familiar to me
It could have been my wife’s old XPS laptop, but I’m unsure if that’s what you’re referring to.
@@Mac84 I believe the XPS used the same chassis, the round bits on the hinges made me think about it as I scrapped out a dead Studio 17 at work with the same screen
Steve, you just made my childhood come back to me! This machine was my first computer ever of my own! It was my dad's first, but then he got a Power Mac 8500 (of which as you may know/remember I have a version of and it's ULTRA upgraded.. I've not touched it in ages though). 13 year old me played many many hours of SimCity 2000 as well as messing with ResEdit and swapping out sounds in random apps. I also remember early audio editing with SoundEdit... I remember splicing together an audio clip of Mozart's Eine Kleine Nact Musik with clips from the movie "Amadeus" and a fart sound. Use your imagination and you'll be able to figure out what edit I made those many years ago. I miss those days. Thanks for this informative video.
Hello... is there a way to revive an old IIcx? I see a momentary green light, and then it powers down. I've looked inside, and as far as my inexperienced eyes can tell, there is no damage to the motherboard. Again, as far as I can see. (I also have no monitor for this thing.)
Tanx!
I’d check out TinkerDifferent.com as the comments section is different to provide support in. It could be a bad power supply, it could be aging capacitors, it could be a short, many possibilities.
@@Mac84 Yes, I know, it could be anything, and I'm no expert in this. But thanks for the link!
👍 Make a post there and I’m sure some smart folks will help with good advice
@@Mac84 Grassy ass!!
Enjoyed Steve nice Mac
Great video Steve! And I love that t-shirt! Can you use an AT or ATX power supply with any old Macs that are as big as the IIci?
Thanks! I was using this adapter that lets me use an ATX PSU with the Mac IIci and similar models. anserine.co/products/beigeatx
Also the shirt I’m wearing is available here: shop.mac84.net
OK, thanks!