Pro-tip to fight the Illuminate: Punisher and Grenade launcher. The Punisher has better range and thus better able to knock out Watchers. Their pellet pattern makes them ideal for killing shields AND the unit before it can respond. This goes for EVERY lesser Illuminate. Now for bigger boys, Obelisks, Tripods and Council Members, you use the grenade launcher. Knock out the shield and deal a ton of damage really fast so it can't respond. So I would imagine an ideal loadout to look something like this. Punisher, Redeemer, Impact or High Explosive grenade. Armor of choice, though recon might prove invaluable. Eagle Cluster Bomb to quickly clear fields of grunts and patrols. Orbital Airburst Strike to nail down larger targets with bursts of damage. Grenade Launcher for aforementioned uses. Shield Generator to prevent mind control effects and not die to particle shots from across the map.
Their tech wasn’t “taken” as in it was removed from them, it was more like adopted from them through intel from war. They can be using same or even more tech.
over a 100 years of exile, i bet these guys are absolutely pissed at Super Earth. If i remember the lore they were friendly but Super Earth was afraid of their tech & attacked them first.
If you boys think bots are hard, just wait for these bastards. They were the worst in HD1. Invisible fast melee groups, one shot snipers, tons of shields, AOE slow, walling off teams. Its gonna be extremely difficult now.
I love watching the new players freak out about the Illuminate. Trust me, it's waaay worse than you think. But at the same time, easier than most Vets paint it. Pro-tip: Punisher and Grenade Launcher. You're welcome.
@@pretentiousdude the saving grace of fighting illuminate was you didn't need antitank. They were not armored, just shielded, so guns with a high rate of fire or spread damage were good
if you think the rocket destroyers are bad; the illuminate apprentice can snipe you from across the entire map. Though they telegraph their attack with a beam of light
It’s really cool in the first game the illuminate gave off that they had really clean and advanced technology but these unites they look biomechanicle like the technology they had in the first game has merged with their bodies. The tripod in the first game looked purely mechanical but in these leaks they look fleshy or with a organic carapace
One critical thing the illuminates had that made them much weaker than the other two factions is that NONE of their units had heavy armor. Gatling sentries could chew through their shields and then their units, and you’d never need to bring EATs or the Recoilless unless you wanted to rapidly pop a shield down. The trade off was their shielding and their battlefield manipulation, but I can imagine medium penetration weapons such as the machine gun, HMG emplacement, and laser cannon will absolutely shred through these guys. Oh, and those walkers basically served as their frontline infantry, keeping you away from the council members and such.
@@NaregChakhbasian Doesn't look like it will have shields. It's clearly organic with no powered backpack/electronics to house a shield generator. Absolutely no doubt it will be heavily armored but MAYBE slightly less than a charger.
@@michaelkaufhold3126 LOL, speculating on leaked pictures and this guy has the audacity to say "clearly" and "absolutely." Lil bro, you know exactly as much as we do.
With the illuminates get ready to deal with a lot of cloaking (like the Stalkers) even the patrol units from Helldivers 1 had cloaking (little flying eyeballs), and sniping lots and lots of sniping
@@pyerackI'd be not against some kind of night/thermal vision on certain helmets to help in their territory. From what I remember, they enjoy two type of environment : ocean and jungle planetoïds. So, visibility close to zero, especially with their cloaking devices.
Would be cool if we could have missions where both factions would be fighting eachother and we have to get in and out of a huge war. Like the clankers vs the bugs and we are trying to steal data and get out. Something that would benefit you not to engage head on every fight.
That sounds like the perfect context for stealth missions....they have a lot of really cool avenues to explore with this game. I hope the popularity of it helps them make their wildest ideas come to life.
Glad to see someone else thinking of the tripod from the war of the worlds as i thought the same but I've played the first Helldiver's and uh im not excited to fight these guys again as they are harder then the cyborgs as their strategy is more controlling and ambushing than outright frontal assault and i bet its gonna play out the same as we need diversey in our tactics to handle our foes@@opticaljoystick6016
Your counter to shielding in HD1 was rate of fire. Illuminate shields were able to shrug off large, singular attacks like stratagems, grenades and missiles, but with an automatic weapon and disciplined fire you could drain it pretty quick, then drop them with a quick followup attack. I would often take a machine gun to wear down groups before calling down a strafing run, as their armor plating was pretty thin in comparison.
Just remember people: There is a loading screen tip about cooking your grenades to allow for airburst explosions THERE IS NO REASON TO CARE ABOUT AIRBURSTS RIGHT NOW
There is, actually. For one, an airbursted grenade will spread out MUCH more shrapnel than one on the ground, not to mention it exploding around head level makes it much more lethal. Two, you can time an airburst so it hits critical things much easier than if you just threw it at the ground, such as killing a Walker's occupant or blowing the rockets off a Devastator.
yeah but impacts have a much different use style than regular grenade and an impact must hit a target to detonate whereas a cooked regular grenade is on a timer. big difference @@tone-vz2qo
Helldiver 1 veteran here. To break their shielding you need lots of bullets, then switch to the EAT and the walkers and council should be fine to beat. Don't use laser weaponry. They are very fragile to Projectile based weapons even with the shield. Grenades also work wonders against them. Iam very curious how this Berserker type enemy will behave. That guy is definitely new
It's probably going to have both armor and shield and a shit ton of health, I mean it has to be strong now since 4 mechs it making helldive look easy now.
Clearly the warmap was designed to get 4 faction but it would be pretty cool if on some border sector they would fight one another like the automaton against the illuminate when taken sector are neighbouring and could take sector from the other from planet to planet.
It would be cool to get a special type of mission where helldiver team must complete objectives on the active war zone between two factions. My videocard would probably start pissing blood though...
Getting Chappie is honestly the biggest part of this entire leak, I’m assuming they might be AI teammates for solo players, like Bosco in Deep Rock Galactic.
The return of Illuminates is going to be one hell of a skill check As if we didnt have enough people complaining about how the hard the hardest difficulty in the game is
Honestly, if they touch the current difficulty, I won't touch this game anymore. The game was hard because we didn't have much antiarmor options but now with mechs, helldive is way easier and even the hardest missions are doable now. Wait until they add more weapons, belldive will become more like level 5 or 6 and we will need a new difficulty.
Damn the illuminate look really cool, honestly wasn’t sure how they’d make them look in this, but they def give me sorta starcraft protoss/halo covenant vibes
@@VisceralCarbonthose giant worms were boss fights for the bugs in hell divers 1. I think seeing their bodies in hd2 is a tease that we may be able to fight them again
Stim packs are syringes with ibuprofen. Considering how expendable Helldivers are, it only makes sense to nub the pain at maximum and in case if they survive, patch them up properly on the ship
I'm actually wondering if there may be 4 factions eventually since the galaxy appears that it's coordinated off into 4 different sectors that seem to put Super Earth in the middle of it. 🤔
That would be sick because it would be completely brand new. It would be sick if it was just another human faction. Or sea creatures and the whole planet is shallow water.
They have definitely been updated from the prior installment. For one, no flying bugs I ever saw, so this will be new. Illuminate had a lot of hovering units, wouldn’t be a stretch for some to be higher and considered flying. Like the new infantry models for illuminate. Gives a more culty feel but they’re clearly still packing some high tech gear Holly shit that tripod got big, it was a lot smaller in HD1 and usually came in packs of 3, and they were shielded. That cannon was a short range arc cannon. You did not want these things getting close. Very interested to see how differently/similarly they play, since most enemies have been fairly close to their original counterparts so far.
@@michaelkaufhold3126 May have been. Been a while since I've really "dove" back into HD1. They do have one in HD2 though I just encountered yesterday. Tough bastard to take down
The Illuminate were rough in the first game. They had shields, loads of area control/ denial style weapons, snipers, turrets, drones, and units that could interrupt your controls. True hard mode drops when this lot shows up.
The hooded enemy is not apprentice, it's a hunter - the sniper enemy with electrostatic glove. The second one doesn't look like anything from the first game, it's either an illusionist or something new judging by size. The third one is definitely either council member or illusionist. The forth one seems to be the apprentice or the outcast, judging by more ornate armor than the hunter. The fifth one is definitely the apprentice. The sixth one looks like something new. 7th one can be anything, might be vehicle crew. 8th one is totally new, nothing like it in the first game. 9th one is the tripod, but very big. 10th one got no equivalent. 11th one if the observer, scout unit.
@@pyerack Illuminates don't have traditonal sort of guns. The closest thing they have is electrostatic glove that hunter uses. They rely on their psyonics and electrical weapons arc gun-style.
Bro imagine a bile titans walking around the corner of a sky scraper at night. Would be sick as hell. I kind of want a few like darker maps where I have to us my flash light. Maybe tone down the spawns for those types of missions
This game is great. The potential is crazy. They already added stuff in the first month in other games I would if waited years for like weather hazards
Im considering the Logic of Other games but, Energy Weapons are usually the call for Destroying Shields, Interesting enough the next warbond is only Energy weapons mmmm....
Okay so, I have been thinking about it for a while and if it ends up being as I thought, things can get pretty exciting. Okay so, to begin with, I didn't play HD2 from the very beginning, so idrk, but if both factions bots and bugs started invading planets from the ends of the stellar map, (which I believe it was that way since the Malevolon Creek invasion) this lead me to the next conclusion. Lets say that all the factions always start from the edges of the stellar map right? Okay, Bots and Terminids they have been invading territories rapidly, thus approaching the Super Earth, while for us it is more difficult to contain the advances. Now the Illuminate will come, who seem to be quite difficult enemies and another faction to deal with. If to all this, the developers add a 4th faction, and the pace of enemy conquest continues advancing as for now, I am afraid that the super earth would also be in danger of Invasion. That would be the most epic moment for all Helldivers to finally have the support of Xbox players.
Yup. Most of them are from Helldivers 1. Hell for super earth. Those illuminate are the nightmare. Shield and stealth are their strongest. The droid ball is the one we need to destroy them first before the reinforcements come. They're all use teleport
Thank you for apologies. I just really tired of this Helldivers 2 news RUclipsrs that seems to have no damn clue that there is Helldivers and talking about mechs like they wasnt ever a thing in Helldivers and no one knows how they will look like, but they talk like damn experts
Tbh the illuminate remind me of the combine from hl2 they both have very advanced tech and got their asses kicked by earth but are still very much a massive threat and the weird strider looking thingy at 9:56 they straight up took the design and changed it a bit and most of them look like the beta design for the combine
The game already has that, we're playing as that big threat :) We're literally the big evil empire that has been ruling with an iron fist for a full century, all these other enemy factions are rebellions. The automatons used to be human The bugs were literally being kept in farms like cattle And the Illuminates were practically banished They're all trying to end Humanity's tyrannical regime
Hope we are going to get some sort of anti-aircraft turret stratagem or something like that. When you take into consideration how chaotic the Terminids missions are on higher difficulties, keeping track of both land AND air just won't be possible...
Get your Shotguns, Stalwarts & heavy machine gun ready cause these will be your best options to eliminate the Illuminate shields quickly. Once you remove their shield than you can quickly dispach them since they have no armor. These guys are no jokes. Don't rely on the Railgun or 1 hit stratagems like the 500kg bomb cause the Illuminate shield will absorb that 1st hit & shrug it off.
I hope they tease it out like how they're doing w/ illuminate snipers and shriekers. My friend and I both got simultaneously sniped while we were on the terminid planet (i have a clip of it), we both had shields gen on but it def got hit. It would be so cool to see, esp a illuminate terminid alliance until we get attacked from another front
flying bugs were kinda a given in my mind. when tf do you ever look up for anything but a bile or to throw something? they gonna need shoulder swapping n a bunch of other things at that rate, though, which they won't do 💯
I almost want to guarantee they won't add shoulder swapping, but at the same time, with only the shield pack existing. I can guarantee, is that the game will get too hectic to a point, some kind of movement is needed.
Oh man, it has been so long that i totally forgot about the "box in" mechanic for the illuminati. I remember that the meta was piercing long range ballistic weapons to kill observers before they could sound the alarm. Those big three legged things attacked with electicity like the arc thrower.
My guess is the illuminates are going to appear at the southern front. Why? Because cyberstan is towards the northern front and I believe that either they will come back as their own faction who allies with the automatons or they’ll be counted along with the atomatons (so the automatons would basically be half the war map)
Illuminates in HD1 weren’t so strong, you just had to be fast and run past them or away. However it seems like there are more classes and some are missing (like the big “wall globe”) and it would be so cool if they’re now in fact less advanced than before as their technology got stolen
Vet from helldivers 1 here! Some illuminates are similar to the ones from the first game, other are completely brand new, looking forward to see them in action! Nice video, and keep bringing democracy guys!
Love the new take on Iluminates, more alien less flashy in aesthetic, but sticking to the original shapes and hierarchy. Like the bugs and automatons they've basically taken the original concept to the extreme and removed the cartoony bits to make them more menacing.
The scout guys for the illuminates are basicly observers the protoss use from starcraft. Those council member guys in the floating char used to cast mind control blasts at you and reverse your controls and you would jump into enemies/stratagems good times haha.
1:55 correct me if I am wrong, but I believe those are terminid pouncers and hunters, which will leap REALLY far to just to remove half your health bar and apply slow on you.
These are still all very tiny enemies compared to what is coming. Bile Titans are going to be a minor inconvenience. What is exciting is that we will also get heavier weapons and vehicles to deal with them. I can't wait to be walking around in a 150 foot tall exosuit!
I just hope they give us a strategem to call down a squad of AI controlled regular super earth troopers. You forget helldivers are only special forces units.
I just bought this game yesterday and haven't even gotten used to the bugs and automotans yet...😅 played for like 5 hours with a random group I met from South Africa. It was a great time.
Fighting this faction will be complete hell. I have also heard a fan theory, that the illuminate is a real antagonists for Super earth. They have helped cyborgs to become automatons and start full-scale war against humanity to return their world + captured or had agreement with terminids queen to do same thing
honestly i really disliked illuminates in helldivers 1 because it looked like different game, its looked like some space pong, fight against space balls evading space balls and beams.. the models were not scairy at all and i just didnt get the feeling of dread from fighting them... hopefully something changes in Helldivers 2
The illuminates’ shielding typically wasn’t a super big deal, as any weapon or explosive would could deal pretty good damage to any unit’s shielding The purpose of the shields was to provide regenerative capability to squishy units, and also completely nullify the effects of fire, poison, acid, and it lowered laser based weapon damage It became a really big issue when dealing with monsters like the Illusionist, Obelisk(orb thing I think), ETC The more shield they had, the harder it was to use weapons that would otherwise slow down or harm the unit Though, one thing I found absolutely effective was a mixture of high explosives, shotguns, and a lot of poison and acid. Weapons like the fully upgraded RUMBLER, the FLUX(?) acidthrower, and other weapons capable of doing high damage up close would absolutely melt shields, flesh, and teammates alike, while also dealing with any snipers hiding off screen or any cloaked units.
I feel as though the warbond "Cutting Edge" that is going to be released is just subtly hinting that we should be learning how to use energy weapons effectively without killing our teammates is going to be vital to the BS we will be faced with soon
The Iluminates destroyed several Super Earths in the past. Since they are so difficult to fight a lot of divers were dedicated to only fight bots and bugs, and would not play against Illuminates, rather allowing the current Super Earth to be destroyed so new bugs could be spawned in.
Gonna call it now. Shortly after release these will be by far the least played planets IF they play like in HD1. They look cool but were a pain in the ass in Helldivers 1 especially if you get hit with that orb that reverses all your controls so up is down and left is right etc etc. Still very cool that they are coming all the same but me thinks ill be sticking with bugs lol
These illuminate, especially the beefy white one, reminds me of timesplitter's (the creatures) The tripod looks very half-life strider or war of the worlds. These should be very interesting enemies, and will probably coincide with vehicles as they sound tough.
I was expecting some more flying enemies to be introduced. Not just because of the S.A.M. base secondary objective but the recently leaked yellow mech looks like it might be an anti-air unit.
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Can't hide behind your railgun and backpack shield meta anymore. Going to need to put effort in the more this game gets updated.
Pro-tip to fight the Illuminate: Punisher and Grenade launcher. The Punisher has better range and thus better able to knock out Watchers. Their pellet pattern makes them ideal for killing shields AND the unit before it can respond. This goes for EVERY lesser Illuminate. Now for bigger boys, Obelisks, Tripods and Council Members, you use the grenade launcher. Knock out the shield and deal a ton of damage really fast so it can't respond. So I would imagine an ideal loadout to look something like this.
Punisher, Redeemer, Impact or High Explosive grenade.
Armor of choice, though recon might prove invaluable.
Eagle Cluster Bomb to quickly clear fields of grunts and patrols. Orbital Airburst Strike to nail down larger targets with bursts of damage. Grenade Launcher for aforementioned uses. Shield Generator to prevent mind control effects and not die to particle shots from across the map.
wish i could like the chappie time stamp
I need the game and something to play it on lol
They were no flying bugs in HD1. This game is truly a sequel it seems, the illuminate have become rapid mutant freaks since their tech was taken.
They're like a weird mix between the Covenant and the Combine now
They remind me of Xcom elders and their genetic experiments.
Their tech wasn’t “taken” as in it was removed from them, it was more like adopted from them through intel from war. They can be using same or even more tech.
over a 100 years of exile, i bet these guys are absolutely pissed at Super Earth. If i remember the lore they were friendly but Super Earth was afraid of their tech & attacked them first.
@@izumolee6714merely propaganda
If you boys think bots are hard, just wait for these bastards. They were the worst in HD1. Invisible fast melee groups, one shot snipers, tons of shields, AOE slow, walling off teams. Its gonna be extremely difficult now.
Imagine a difficulty 15 illuminate run in HD2 with 5 objectives per mission lmao
mind control. The mind control was the worst.
Also teleporting and inverts your movement controls
@@lrdeldric oh god I forgot about that, that WAS the worst thing. I must have repressed that memory.
Don’t forget their mind control abilities to scramble your controls. Can’t wait!
OMG... Terminids and Automatons was just the warm up before the real invasion began! DAMN YOU, JOEL!!!!!
Of course it was just a warm up. Can't expect to take on the real deal if you can't fight some bugs or build-a-bots.
FOR THE WARMASTER JOEL!
I love watching the new players freak out about the Illuminate. Trust me, it's waaay worse than you think. But at the same time, easier than most Vets paint it. Pro-tip: Punisher and Grenade Launcher. You're welcome.
@@pretentiousdude the saving grace of fighting illuminate was you didn't need antitank. They were not armored, just shielded, so guns with a high rate of fire or spread damage were good
Can't imagine how hard it will be to extract civilian from illuminate planets
All fun and games until the illuminate teleport a meteor on you
The illuminate will have to extract me from their planet let me at em
Bruh that whole mission needs a redo, it's so retardedly chaotic and easy to mess up.
Let's just say these bastards can Teleport to your face have fun 😂
@@NaregChakhbasianyeah and it's not even like skill, you either have a team that presses buttons or you lose. And most people don't press buttons.
if you think the rocket destroyers are bad; the illuminate apprentice can snipe you from across the entire map. Though they telegraph their attack with a beam of light
halo 2 legendary jackal snipers flashbacks
SNIPER!!!!!!
The illuminate were ambush specialists imo
Its pretty hard to die to these guys. As you said they alarm you before actually shooting. Its more annoying when they 2-shot your turrets
Wait the apprentice uses melee isn’t it the hunter with the beam it death
It’s really cool in the first game the illuminate gave off that they had really clean and advanced technology but these unites they look biomechanicle like the technology they had in the first game has merged with their bodies. The tripod in the first game looked purely mechanical but in these leaks they look fleshy or with a organic carapace
an exiled race that had to improvise, and maybe genetic modifications too on the heavy guy
Yeah but now they are probably much stronger than they were before and I think they will become the worst enemy of super earth
Like I said in another comment section, they're like a mix of the Covenant and Combine now.
We took their weapons
Look like the combine from hl2 ngl
One critical thing the illuminates had that made them much weaker than the other two factions is that NONE of their units had heavy armor. Gatling sentries could chew through their shields and then their units, and you’d never need to bring EATs or the Recoilless unless you wanted to rapidly pop a shield down.
The trade off was their shielding and their battlefield manipulation, but I can imagine medium penetration weapons such as the machine gun, HMG emplacement, and laser cannon will absolutely shred through these guys.
Oh, and those walkers basically served as their frontline infantry, keeping you away from the council members and such.
As long as the devs don't go "oops, all heavy armor", thingsll be fine
Yeah but hd2 seems to have newer unit types, that giant one looks like it will probably have armor and shields.
@@NaregChakhbasian Doesn't look like it will have shields. It's clearly organic with no powered backpack/electronics to house a shield generator.
Absolutely no doubt it will be heavily armored but MAYBE slightly less than a charger.
@@michaelkaufhold3126 can I strip the armour with the nerfed railgun is the question, that would make it meta again, atleast against illuminate
@@michaelkaufhold3126 LOL, speculating on leaked pictures and this guy has the audacity to say "clearly" and "absolutely." Lil bro, you know exactly as much as we do.
With the illuminates get ready to deal with a lot of cloaking (like the Stalkers) even the patrol units from Helldivers 1 had cloaking (little flying eyeballs), and sniping lots and lots of sniping
Anti Material Rifle: Now this looks like a job for me
if this is the same cloaking as the Stalkers, it's going to be easy on certain planets, but much harder on others
Allegedly the Helldivers are going to get silenced weapons and other stealth stuff.
@@pyerackI'd be not against some kind of night/thermal vision on certain helmets to help in their territory. From what I remember, they enjoy two type of environment : ocean and jungle planetoïds. So, visibility close to zero, especially with their cloaking devices.
@@sirjazz5776 Swamps, I remember a lot of Swamps infested with them.
Would be cool if we could have missions where both factions would be fighting eachother and we have to get in and out of a huge war. Like the clankers vs the bugs and we are trying to steal data and get out. Something that would benefit you not to engage head on every fight.
Could happen, tian Kwan had bug bodies in a few spots that I saw myself
That sounds like the perfect context for stealth missions....they have a lot of really cool avenues to explore with this game. I hope the popularity of it helps them make their wildest ideas come to life.
100% plus we could watch the Enemy AI fight echuther.
then they start teaming up on us... automatons riding on the back of chargers and bugs being outfitted with weaponry...
@@ciderrss9020 metal shields over bile titans heads would make the rail gun almost useless. Lol
the illuminates had tripod walkers before, but uh... that's a LOT bigger.
that looks like stryder from HL2 or tripod from wor of the worlds
@@opticaljoystick6016 I thought the exactly same thing when I saw it!
Glad to see someone else thinking of the tripod from the war of the worlds as i thought the same but I've played the first Helldiver's and uh im not excited to fight these guys again as they are harder then the cyborgs as their strategy is more controlling and ambushing than outright frontal assault and i bet its gonna play out the same as we need diversey in our tactics to handle our foes@@opticaljoystick6016
someone call gordan freeman
They also had way fancier looking tech in HD1
Your counter to shielding in HD1 was rate of fire. Illuminate shields were able to shrug off large, singular attacks like stratagems, grenades and missiles, but with an automatic weapon and disciplined fire you could drain it pretty quick, then drop them with a quick followup attack. I would often take a machine gun to wear down groups before calling down a strafing run, as their armor plating was pretty thin in comparison.
Just like the player shield in HD2. It can tank a 500kg bomb but rapid fire shuts it down
The rate we’re getting content at is just fantastic
Seems like it was pre-planned.
There's no way in hell they did all new stuff when we play the game.
@@LaserTractorof course. Every game that comes out has almost at least 6 months worth of content ready that they will release later or dlc
@@LaserTractorof course, launching a live service without a bunch of content cooked up for the future would be a horrible idea lol
@@CrispyMuffin2unless the live service wasn’t well planned, but helldivers is not a corporate greedy cash grab like suicide squad and skull and bones
Yeah it's cool but i'd rather have all the bug fixed, the game actually optimised, and the weapons/armors/stratagems truely ballanced.
Illuminates were my favourite faction to fight back in H1. Laser weapons worked very well against their shielding.
sounds like dune lol
@@hippoacein dune lasers made shields explode like nukes
@@shiggermetimbers sounds about right...mini nukes aint no stranger to helldivers lmao
The new warbond is laser weapons and electric damage defense
I hope the tripods make war of the world horn noises
That would be super badass and super terrifying
or the reapers noises from mass effect
Could you imagine 😂
@@dabbingraccoons6416Qusar Cannon my beloved
theres so much potential here
Just remember people: There is a loading screen tip about cooking your grenades to allow for airburst explosions
THERE IS NO REASON TO CARE ABOUT AIRBURSTS RIGHT NOW
There is, actually. For one, an airbursted grenade will spread out MUCH more shrapnel than one on the ground, not to mention it exploding around head level makes it much more lethal. Two, you can time an airburst so it hits critical things much easier than if you just threw it at the ground, such as killing a Walker's occupant or blowing the rockets off a Devastator.
dropships lol
They have impacts lol
yeah but impacts have a much different use style than regular grenade and an impact must hit a target to detonate whereas a cooked regular grenade is on a timer.
big difference @@tone-vz2qo
Idk it's great against clearing hordes of squishy enemies.
Looks like they've been working on this for minute. Best $40 game I've ever played
Helldiver 1 veteran here. To break their shielding you need lots of bullets, then switch to the EAT and the walkers and council should be fine to beat. Don't use laser weaponry. They are very fragile to Projectile based weapons even with the shield. Grenades also work wonders against them. Iam very curious how this Berserker type enemy will behave. That guy is definitely new
It's probably going to have both armor and shield and a shit ton of health, I mean it has to be strong now since 4 mechs it making helldive look easy now.
Damn, looks like I finally have to hang up my laser cannon
i used the ac-22 dum dum and that worked like a charm against the council members.
9:53 looks like a War of the Worlds reference. That thing is gonna be terrifying
Hoping it makes a similar horn sound when it spots you.
back then it was a fairly common unit. . . .I only hope that with such scale, it is not. x)
@@pyerackYes!!!
it looks like a half life strider to me
@@therealgrass1016glad I’m not the only one who thought this too
Can't wait for illuminates to invert my aiming axis, it's going to be so fun lmao
Clearly the warmap was designed to get 4 faction but it would be pretty cool if on some border sector they would fight one another like the automaton against the illuminate when taken sector are neighbouring and could take sector from the other from planet to planet.
It would be cool to get a special type of mission where helldiver team must complete objectives on the active war zone between two factions. My videocard would probably start pissing blood though...
we probably will see that, not for now since both fronts are on the opposite side, but we could see a planet being disputed between 3 factions
@@nicolaspeigne1429Cyborgs. Automatons are heading for CYBERSTAN.
I’m hoping for a human rebel faction
yeah not gonna lie it would be fun mowing down dozens of imperial guardsman like units @@zinthos0019
Getting Chappie is honestly the biggest part of this entire leak, I’m assuming they might be AI teammates for solo players, like Bosco in Deep Rock Galactic.
The return of Illuminates is going to be one hell of a skill check
As if we didnt have enough people complaining about how the hard the hardest difficulty in the game is
Yup Helldivers ain’t for everyone
@@Xenoxz83_"A game for everyone is a game for no one"_ ~ Arrowhead Studio.
This will never ring so true.
Honestly, if they touch the current difficulty, I won't touch this game anymore. The game was hard because we didn't have much antiarmor options but now with mechs, helldive is way easier and even the hardest missions are doable now. Wait until they add more weapons, belldive will become more like level 5 or 6 and we will need a new difficulty.
@@sirjazz5776I hope helldivers will retain their hardcore aspect, otherwise, it will die out in a few months
@@NaregChakhbasian i wouldnt be surprised if they brought back difficulties 10-15 once they bring back the more fucked up enemy types
Damn the illuminate look really cool, honestly wasn’t sure how they’d make them look in this, but they def give me sorta starcraft protoss/halo covenant vibes
I like the design more then hd1 illuminates
illuminate in helldivers 1 looked like the normal protoss from starcraft, the illuminate in helldivers 2 look like the dark templar protoss.
Honestly I was wondering where the flying bugs on the cover where.
Or what about those giant worm carcass that I've been seeing on certain planets
@@VisceralCarbonthose giant worms were boss fights for the bugs in hell divers 1. I think seeing their bodies in hd2 is a tease that we may be able to fight them again
@@VisceralCarbon Those are the Hive Lords from HD1, and like @richardm.6515 said, they were boss fights.
Stim packs are syringes with ibuprofen. Considering how expendable Helldivers are, it only makes sense to nub the pain at maximum and in case if they survive, patch them up properly on the ship
"lets take ibuprofen together"
Seems like you’re bad mouthing democracy, Stolas. We have your daughter.
That makes sense.
"Let me stop my heavy bleeding injury with some blood thinners"
It’s a speedball of amphet and morph
I always assumed Stims were nano tech stolen from the Illuminates. Wouldn't be the first piece of technology we steal from them.
That first one doesn't look like an Apprentice, that looks like a Hunter, the enemy type that uses Electro-Pulse gloves
I'm actually wondering if there may be 4 factions eventually since the galaxy appears that it's coordinated off into 4 different sectors that seem to put Super Earth in the middle of it. 🤔
Zombies
Human commies
@@mindsablaze221omg please
That would be sick because it would be completely brand new. It would be sick if it was just another human faction. Or sea creatures and the whole planet is shallow water.
Events or Crossover races would be cool to say if they did the Killzone one they mentioned on twitter and that last qtr of the galactic map
Illuminate is basically the protoss from starcraft
Protoss from StarCraft, Tau from Warhammer 40k, Covenant from Halo, the Citadel from Mass Effect, etc
Combine from Half Life 2 (sort of)
@@Jerome18921I can 100% see the Combine inspiration with that literal tri-pod walker enemy.
@@pyerack The first one is def an HL:OF shocktrooper
@@Jerome18921
They do resemble combine synth units
They have definitely been updated from the prior installment.
For one, no flying bugs I ever saw, so this will be new.
Illuminate had a lot of hovering units, wouldn’t be a stretch for some to be higher and considered flying.
Like the new infantry models for illuminate. Gives a more culty feel but they’re clearly still packing some high tech gear
Holly shit that tripod got big, it was a lot smaller in HD1 and usually came in packs of 3, and they were shielded. That cannon was a short range arc cannon. You did not want these things getting close. Very interested to see how differently/similarly they play, since most enemies have been fairly close to their original counterparts so far.
Wasn't there an even tougher Charger (Tank?) that had complete armor protection that didn't have a soft spot in the back?
@@michaelkaufhold3126 May have been. Been a while since I've really "dove" back into HD1. They do have one in HD2 though I just encountered yesterday. Tough bastard to take down
@@michaelkaufhold3126 the behemoth? It had tentacles on its face and only could be hit when it dug the tentacles into the floor to attack
The Illuminate were rough in the first game. They had shields, loads of area control/ denial style weapons, snipers, turrets, drones, and units that could interrupt your controls. True hard mode drops when this lot shows up.
Super Earth is clearly still behind in advanced warfare, even after 100 yrs that's for sure. We are clearly outmatched
The hooded enemy is not apprentice, it's a hunter - the sniper enemy with electrostatic glove. The second one doesn't look like anything from the first game, it's either an illusionist or something new judging by size. The third one is definitely either council member or illusionist. The forth one seems to be the apprentice or the outcast, judging by more ornate armor than the hunter. The fifth one is definitely the apprentice. The sixth one looks like something new. 7th one can be anything, might be vehicle crew. 8th one is totally new, nothing like it in the first game. 9th one is the tripod, but very big. 10th one got no equivalent. 11th one if the observer, scout unit.
Third one I would say for sure is a Council Member, on account of the 'halo' of metal around their chair, which the Illusionist does not have.
@@All_Mighty672 Well, council member is also red and not blue.
@@BIGESTblade I haven't really seen red on any of the enemies shown, they may have just changed part of the color pallet.
I'm assuming the second one is going to be some kind of normal ground troop with a gun.
@@pyerack Illuminates don't have traditonal sort of guns. The closest thing they have is electrostatic glove that hunter uses. They rely on their psyonics and electrical weapons arc gun-style.
For anyone unfamiliar with the first game, they rock laser weapons. Should be fun.
I hope we get a change of scenery like fighting the illuminates in cities or near colonies
Bro imagine a bile titans walking around the corner of a sky scraper at night. Would be sick as hell. I kind of want a few like darker maps where I have to us my flash light. Maybe tone down the spawns for those types of missions
@@roguerex292a Bike Titan in a city scenario would be sick, maybe they could even make other Titans, like a Skate Titan and a Rollerblade Titan too.
@@gabzsy4924 lmfao
Dis update should get named SHITS ABOUT TO GET REAL
Lmfao imagine that flyer grabbing your friend or something
@@roguerex292 HES MINE GIVE HIM BACK
@@JINQ_vyHES MINE!!!
This game is great. The potential is crazy. They already added stuff in the first month in other games I would if waited years for like weather hazards
Im considering the Logic of Other games but, Energy Weapons are usually the call for Destroying Shields, Interesting enough the next warbond is only Energy weapons mmmm....
Oh christ, I remember that bot ! It was the tutorial unit in Helldivers 1 ! Only, back then, it was just a head on a pod... but hat's him.
The counter to shielding in Helldivers is fast attacks, things like machine guns and strafing runs
Okay so, I have been thinking about it for a while and if it ends up being as I thought, things can get pretty exciting.
Okay so, to begin with, I didn't play HD2 from the very beginning, so idrk, but if both factions bots and bugs started invading planets from the ends of the stellar map, (which I believe it was that way since the Malevolon Creek invasion) this lead me to the next conclusion.
Lets say that all the factions always start from the edges of the stellar map right? Okay, Bots and Terminids they have been invading territories rapidly, thus approaching the Super Earth, while for us it is more difficult to contain the advances. Now the Illuminate will come, who seem to be quite difficult enemies and another faction to deal with. If to all this, the developers add a 4th faction, and the pace of enemy conquest continues advancing as for now, I am afraid that the super earth would also be in danger of Invasion. That would be the most epic moment for all Helldivers to finally have the support of Xbox players.
9:53 looks exactly like the Striders from Half Life 2
9:52 oh shit strider from halflife
Yup. Most of them are from Helldivers 1. Hell for super earth. Those illuminate are the nightmare. Shield and stealth are their strongest. The droid ball is the one we need to destroy them first before the reinforcements come. They're all use teleport
We've had robot Nam, bug Afghanistan, so what's next? Psyker Stalingrad? Well to be fair, fighting in urban/cities areas would be pretty damn sweet.
Between robo-nam, bug-istan, and illumigrad, I don’t know how I’m going to survive
Thank you for apologies. I just really tired of this Helldivers 2 news RUclipsrs that seems to have no damn clue that there is Helldivers and talking about mechs like they wasnt ever a thing in Helldivers and no one knows how they will look like, but they talk like damn experts
Not only that alot of these Helldivers reporters have never played H1. Maybe watch videos of H1 or play the game and then do news reporting lol smh
Tbh the illuminate remind me of the combine from hl2 they both have very advanced tech and got their asses kicked by earth but are still very much a massive threat and the weird strider looking thingy at 9:56 they straight up took the design and changed it a bit and most of them look like the beta design for the combine
i hope they add a fourth faction that is such a big threat the whole galaxy needs to work together to fight back against
We are the fourth enemy 😂
@@TheEmpireAnimationsgreat point
That's us. We're the baddies. Accept the lore.
The game already has that, we're playing as that big threat :)
We're literally the big evil empire that has been ruling with an iron fist for a full century, all these other enemy factions are rebellions.
The automatons used to be human
The bugs were literally being kept in farms like cattle
And the Illuminates were practically banished
They're all trying to end Humanity's tyrannical regime
Like human faction of rebels.
*I actually posted about the flying bug on reddit on the game cover,i think i was one (if not the first) that posted about them a long time ago*
Seems like big boi gonna be running at you and throw you like an ragdoll
Man we are cooked. Boi may pick us up and yeet us
Hope we are going to get some sort of anti-aircraft turret stratagem or something like that.
When you take into consideration how chaotic the Terminids missions are on higher difficulties, keeping track of both land AND air just won't be possible...
I saw an anti-air turret in a robot outpost yesterday
They look like Race X from Half-life opposing force or like XEN creatures
I despise the illusionist. One tracking orb from them, you get temporary inverted controls and you've pretty much sealed your fate when in a breach.
they look like the Fallen from Destiny
would make sense since it's an exiled faction
illuminate 2 might be a sniper from hd 1 that stays far back and uses a type of railgun to snipe you out
Man we are cooked
Get your Shotguns, Stalwarts & heavy machine gun ready cause these will be your best options to eliminate the Illuminate shields quickly. Once you remove their shield than you can quickly dispach them since they have no armor. These guys are no jokes. Don't rely on the Railgun or 1 hit stratagems like the 500kg bomb cause the Illuminate shield will absorb that 1st hit & shrug it off.
Thankfully the breaker is my fav gun so far. Achieving a never seen 80% accuracy with it, haha. (Steam deck with ps5 controller)
I hope they tease it out like how they're doing w/ illuminate snipers and shriekers. My friend and I both got simultaneously sniped while we were on the terminid planet (i have a clip of it), we both had shields gen on but it def got hit. It would be so cool to see, esp a illuminate terminid alliance until we get attacked from another front
flying bugs were kinda a given in my mind.
when tf do you ever look up for anything but a bile or to throw something?
they gonna need shoulder swapping n a bunch of other things at that rate, though, which they won't do 💯
I almost want to guarantee they won't add shoulder swapping, but at the same time, with only the shield pack existing.
I can guarantee, is that the game will get too hectic to a point, some kind of movement is needed.
or things better than the shield. there's a jetpack. idk, I bet they could make some goofy speed boots or sum.
Oh man, it has been so long that i totally forgot about the "box in" mechanic for the illuminati. I remember that the meta was piercing long range ballistic weapons to kill observers before they could sound the alarm. Those big three legged things attacked with electicity like the arc thrower.
My guess is the illuminates are going to appear at the southern front. Why? Because cyberstan is towards the northern front and I believe that either they will come back as their own faction who allies with the automatons or they’ll be counted along with the atomatons (so the automatons would basically be half the war map)
The 4 armed charger equivalent looking thing reminds me of the Berserker from gears of war, imagine if it had those mechanics lol
can't believe they added mahoraga to helldivers
All of the enemy factions represent various other factions from other ips, and I love that.
Illuminates in HD1 weren’t so strong, you just had to be fast and run past them or away.
However it seems like there are more classes and some are missing (like the big “wall globe”) and it would be so cool if they’re now in fact less advanced than before as their technology got stolen
Vet from helldivers 1 here! Some illuminates are similar to the ones from the first game, other are completely brand new, looking forward to see them in action! Nice video, and keep bringing democracy guys!
Love the new take on Iluminates, more alien less flashy in aesthetic, but sticking to the original shapes and hierarchy.
Like the bugs and automatons they've basically taken the original concept to the extreme and removed the cartoony bits to make them more menacing.
10:53 looks like something flying and carrying in a soldier to drop it off
They have to add the trumpet sounds from the War of the Worlds to the tripod 😭
These things look terrifying.
9:51 couldn't think of anything other than the strider from the Half Life Series
10:00 It resembles the Tripod for HD1, and the 'main cannon' was an arc gun that shoots electricity.
And yes, it does have a shield :P
The scout guys for the illuminates are basicly observers the protoss use from starcraft. Those council member guys in the floating char used to cast mind control blasts at you and reverse your controls and you would jump into enemies/stratagems good times haha.
Its impresive how their doing more and better things than other games from bigger companys
1:55 correct me if I am wrong, but I believe those are terminid pouncers and hunters, which will leap REALLY far to just to remove half your health bar and apply slow on you.
These are still all very tiny enemies compared to what is coming. Bile Titans are going to be a minor inconvenience. What is exciting is that we will also get heavier weapons and vehicles to deal with them. I can't wait to be walking around in a 150 foot tall exosuit!
the game giving the players so much food lately can't wait to join in
Very cool, thanks for sharing the leaks mate!
it's wild that the flying bugs on the cover of the game... but everyone was shocked when the flying bugs showed up
Illuminate stole combine's strider blueprints.
Here's hope they bring back some of the old ost. The Illuminate difficulty nine theme made you feel like a total badass
9:28 "Covering up his doodee. Yeah.. It looks pretty huge." Might need some context with that one.
I have noticed flocks of something flying overhead on one of the planets. Couldn't shoot em, looked to be just background ambience.
I just hope they give us a strategem to call down a squad of AI controlled regular super earth troopers. You forget helldivers are only special forces units.
I just bought this game yesterday and haven't even gotten used to the bugs and automotans yet...😅 played for like 5 hours with a random group I met from South Africa. It was a great time.
I cant wait man this game keep getting better!
Fighting this faction will be complete hell.
I have also heard a fan theory, that the illuminate is a real antagonists for Super earth. They have helped cyborgs to become automatons and start full-scale war against humanity to return their world + captured or had agreement with terminids queen to do same thing
honestly i really disliked illuminates in helldivers 1 because it looked like different game, its looked like some space pong, fight against space balls evading space balls and beams.. the models were not scairy at all and i just didnt get the feeling of dread from fighting them... hopefully something changes in Helldivers 2
Flying enemies? Amazing! Now we will have another option of where to aim and spend 2 mags to kill 4 new types of bugs :D
“He has a little cloak there covering his duty. Yeah, It looks pretty huge”
Lmfao
The illuminates’ shielding typically wasn’t a super big deal, as any weapon or explosive would could deal pretty good damage to any unit’s shielding
The purpose of the shields was to provide regenerative capability to squishy units, and also completely nullify the effects of fire, poison, acid, and it lowered laser based weapon damage
It became a really big issue when dealing with monsters like the Illusionist, Obelisk(orb thing I think), ETC
The more shield they had, the harder it was to use weapons that would otherwise slow down or harm the unit
Though, one thing I found absolutely effective was a mixture of high explosives, shotguns, and a lot of poison and acid. Weapons like the fully upgraded RUMBLER, the FLUX(?) acidthrower, and other weapons capable of doing high damage up close would absolutely melt shields, flesh, and teammates alike, while also dealing with any snipers hiding off screen or any cloaked units.
Pretty neat, they definitely fit their sountrack found in the gamefiles
I remember Jumpack saved me a lot with Illuminate in Helldivers 1.
I don't think Helldivers 2 jump pack will save me from Illuminate ...
I feel as though the warbond "Cutting Edge" that is going to be released is just subtly hinting that we should be learning how to use energy weapons effectively without killing our teammates is going to be vital to the BS we will be faced with soon
Holy shit. That flying bug looks like a giant winged hunter. My god... have mercy.
The Iluminates destroyed several Super Earths in the past. Since they are so difficult to fight a lot of divers were dedicated to only fight bots and bugs, and would not play against Illuminates, rather allowing the current Super Earth to be destroyed so new bugs could be spawned in.
Gonna call it now. Shortly after release these will be by far the least played planets IF they play like in HD1. They look cool but were a pain in the ass in Helldivers 1 especially if you get hit with that orb that reverses all your controls so up is down and left is right etc etc. Still very cool that they are coming all the same but me thinks ill be sticking with bugs lol
These illuminate, especially the beefy white one, reminds me of timesplitter's (the creatures)
The tripod looks very half-life strider or war of the worlds. These should be very interesting enemies, and will probably coincide with vehicles as they sound tough.
The "Chapie" looking robot may be the "deployable infantry" strategem that's coming.
Ive been excited for these guys more than anything, didnt think we'd be seeing them so soon
11:05 this looks like things in matrix…
You mean the sentinels.
I was expecting some more flying enemies to be introduced. Not just because of the S.A.M. base secondary objective but the recently leaked yellow mech looks like it might be an anti-air unit.