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Native Watercraft Titan X Fishing Kayak | Full Walkthrough with Greg Blanchard
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That be something I'd like to do next summer got me thinking chad
Would love to if I ever get to Alabama.
2 of my favorite fishing guys. Thanks for sharing the Titan with us!
Thank you and thanks for watching
Greg B is everywhere! No one know better than Greg!
He definitely knew this boat very well
Greg is an absolute treasure! As an owner of an Old Town AP136, all I see in this display is an example of Native moving the ball forward in a number of areas. When the time comes, I'm definitely going to be considering what Native has to offer.
Thanks for you response. Well said
I sold a 136ap and I'm now looking heavily at this unit...
FINALY a large kayak with tremendous features at a resonable price. Hobie would be charging 7k easy for this boat.
Not really
Like anything, wait till you price out the basic model with the price of things you want to add - it can easily add up to 5k or even 7k
I can’t wait to see what new kayak they come out with
Based on what I have seen to date, it seems like the X is going to be a great kayak. It is the kayak i plan on purchasing when they are more available. Native feel free to release the weight. The kayaks are now for sale. What's the hold up...? As usual, these kayak companies seem to be scared to death of giving out the true weight of their units. Bot sure why. We care in a time where consumers understand that a large fishing kayak is going to have some heft. Also the price for this boat is in line with the built-in features it comes with. If the performance matches up with everything else, Native has a home run.
Greg is the man! Some of the best kayak fishing content and production.
And a good dude!
My 2 all time favorite kayak anglers right here! I'd love to see the 2 of you get on the water together!
Thank you. It’s going to happen
@ChadHooverFishing, I wish I could join lol. That would literally be a dream come true, lol
Followed Greg for years. Titan looks pretty sweet. $3600 base price, sticker shock would be if you had all those gadgets included lol 😮
Gregs buff dude. Arms for days
I know right. Bro went to Swole City since the last time I saw him
He has to be so he can get that kayak to the water 😂😂😂
I am sold,,,cant wait till i get my hands on this yak i am glad i waited to buy one,,wow,just wow the two best guys in the business
Thanks. I think you will like it
Thanks for the reply been watching alot of your vids and Greg's for a wile i was mostly bank fishing if it was in a boat it was with my dad wich isnt with us anymore,,,thankyou for all the info that you guys put out there i also like the bonafide yaks its a tos up witch one i like the most,,once again thanks
Two of my favorite RUclipsrs
Thank you!
This is going to take over the big water kayaking field. Cannot wait to get my hands on one.
This was the most exciting thing about iCast. This is the first kayak that has me seriously thinking about moving to a different platform from my Nucanoe Unlimited. The weight will probably be the deciding factor.
Same, I was thinking they took a lot of ideas from the Unlimited, but then went above and beyond it. I love mine also, but really contemplating switching to the Titan now.
Native Watercraft has most definitely knocked this one out of the park. I have used a couple of different brands over the years and this kayak is unbelievable. To have a kayak that has been designed and rated to have bow and stern mounted motors at the same time, low center of gravity storage compartments for batteries and sacrificial plates to run your wiring through is unheard of until now. The options are almost unlimited. The Native Titan X 12.5 is on my list of next tournament kayaks for me.
Thanks for the response Mike
3600$?? Wow - that is a deal. Chad and Greg - two da best
After their release video I ordered it. So pumped for it!🤘🏼
Hope y’all enjoy them
Can't wait for these to come out
Definitely getting one
Same here. I have the gray one on pre-order, and I can't wait to pick it up. The nice thing with this one is I don't think there be mods to do
@@cindyschnelland if you mod it, not having to drill is game changing. Doesn't depreciate the value of the kayak bc no one wants to buy a used kayak that's been drilled into haha
Can’t wait to get mine. Already pre ordered it on day one. For a dude that uses a motor this boat is a dream come true. The price is perfect as well.
Super excited to see how Greg sets his up too
Yeah, I'm with you on that about Greg
Nice. Once you get it report back and let us know what you think!
Two Legends, just full of knowledge, and very respected, as you guys, are the face of our sport. Yes, my favorite angler is GB. And I would love to see Greg with spot lock, a power pole, and his live scope. As for the Titan X. They really just designed an awesome, and amazing fishing vessel. She's just beautiful. All They've done for us, with all the options that are set up for you, the swivel seat, storage, the deck, how it's ready to easily make a fishing machine. I could just go on and on! $3600.00 I think is extremely a perfect price point for this boat. I love my 12ft fin drive, with all my accessories, NK, and next season I'll add my Xi3. Great review, from you guys. And Greg, is extremely creative with his Titan he just not long ago had the wizard design for him. 🙏 🌊 🎣 🛶
Thank you
I have a ‘21 Titan 10.5 and this made me drool all over again!!
Those plates, battery placements, wiring design, seat and balance is game changing.
Not having to drill instantly ups the value of this kayak as you can re-sell it easy for a new model 5-10 years later. Seen nice kayaks that people had to get rid of, but they've drilled into it for some kind of mod and instantly loose interest even at a decent price.
That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out
I’m a Hobie guy and is currently on my third kayak the PA14 360. Got the 360 as an upgrade but after seeing this video and the Old Town video I will say I’m done with Hobie and I think Hobie is done for if they change. I will probably end up buying this Native Titan X when it becomes available. Great job to Native Watercraft and Old Town for listening to their customers.
I honestly believe we are seeing more kayaks coming out because of the aluminum shortages with jon boats. After buying a jon boat recently its 1000x better than my kayak was and basic same price
1000 times better than what kayak? Isn't a new Jon boat like 4500?
Nice video, for sure, Chad. So glad you got that little feller (Greg Blanchard) to explain everything to us, too! (Hey! Greg is the one that talked me into a Titan 10.5 over 5 years ago, and it's STILL going Strong...!).
As soon as I saw the video that Greg posted on the New Titan X, I went down to our dealer and Ordered one (might even get it before Next Fishing Season, they said!). Have 4 'Yaks now, so what's another one matter? Haha!
Thanks for making this video, 'cause lots of us out here are "Drooling" over the New Titan X's).
Thanks, that’s awesome. Brother man has been in the gym so he such a little feller any more
This is probably the only boat that could entice me into selling my Oldtown PDL 120. I love all the storage and gear tracks and accessory options.
Greg is the man!! One of my favorite RUclipsrs
I run with dual power pole on my BigRig. Best thing ever.
Pretty sure this will be my next boat, thanks Chad for the great video, cant wait to test this bad boy out!
Thank you and thanks for watching
Either you want horizontal rod storage or foot control. One or the other. Other than that? It's gonna be a good boat for sure.
Yeap, just like most things there are trade offs
Beyond anything I could have imagined!
Eight years ago, I went from fishing for Bass in Tennessee to fishing for Giant Snakeheads in Thailand. I wish something like that was available here. Here, you have one choice, Feelfree. If you're rich, you can get a Hobie here. There is one place in the country that sells them. After the 30% minimum import tax and the mark-up, you can get one for around $7,000. Not happening.
Chad you asked the one question no one else did in any other coverage on this boat. This boat can do both bow and stern mount at the same time.
Great viseo Chad and Greg. Nice yak but the pedal drive takes up to much of the standing space and the foot controls get in the way of the horizontal rod storage. Horizontal rod storage is a must for me. Don't like rods standing up behind me. Overall very nice yak.
You can take the foot pedals off the tracks and don’t use them. The pedal drive takes up less of the standing space than any other pedal drive that I’ve seen, relative to the size of the boat overall. Thanks for watching and for the comment 👊🏻
The foot control would be awesome feature !
For jump shooting / kayak hunting goose.
Both hands on the gun and steer with the foot!
Be careful, in most places you can shoot migratory waterfowl while “under power” or any momentum resulting from power
Greggggg! Quit being nervous. You’re the pro! We all know it!!!
Nice rig with all the bells and whistles well done
Looks like the Nucanoe Fusion seat with a different mount. I can fish all day on mine. Really comfortable
For everyone that says that here is the actual answer. NuCanoe uses a seat from a company called Millennium and the seats are available for a ton of watercraft. NuCanoe popularized them for kayaks, but Native and NuCanoe are both getting them from Millennium.
millenniummarine.com
Awesome rig , it would need to be trailered or a fork lift, what a beast
Yeap, that’s one of the trade offs for “having it all” LOL
That is a monster yak! If I win a tournament it's going to be what I purchase!!
I remember Chad Hoover (you) from that one video where you had an altercation with another guy while kayak fishing. Hope you’re doing well!
Thanks. I’m doing well.
It has almost everything you need. Does it come with navigation lighting ready? It's practically almost perfect. Please add the ability to be navigation ready!!
No, but it does come setup for a host of easy to install electronics upgrades
Yes that has been thought out and no one has showcased it. There’s a small area under the bow mount in the drain channel and will allow you to mount navigation lights. We got that covered!
This definitely became my dream yak as soon as i found out about it🥵🤤 💯
It’s a beast for sure
Greg is lifting some big bass and has the guns to prove it
Yes he has been
Would love to have that seat on my Slayer Max!
Good morning Indonesian time, greetings always healthy and thank you for the very good video
I been thinking about getting one and if I do get it would be this one!💪🏽💯
It would be a solid choice for sure
Shipping in a week I would like to see the weights posted. Nice Vid Chad thanks!
Thanks brother. I’m pretty sure they are updating it when they have it official
Best deal around in that price range 👌
Is there an on the water video for this yak? I would like to see one fully loaded going through both calm and rough water with a 200lb guy riding in it. The options and built in features look fantastic!
Just the promo video. This boat was still the first gen prototype so I doubt they are taking it out fully loaded in rough water
Great kayak. Can you give more information on the lighting panel system!!
What more information do you need?
Man I wish titan would make a tandem version of these so I could take my son out.
Well thought out rig
Pretty neat Rig, however I'm more of a miminalist and have no desire for electronics or motors so I'll stick to my Titan 12. Besides I'm going to have to go with DYI because apparently not a lot of people are trying to mount lights and a bow mount to accommodate for Bow fishing.
👍
We have a CrossBar in the works that will do just that
@@ChadHooverFishing Sounds like a plan.
2 of my fave kayak dudes.
Thank you
Have they done anything about the water coming into footwells with these kayaks? Native is notorious for a wet kayak.
I asked that question when I saw the water coming off the boot in the promo video and I was told that it was because they had the scuppers in and it was raining. The Native rep told me that this boat will be dry and that they put effort towards that in the design process.
So, while I haven’t been in it and can’t confirm it 100% personally, I was told it wouldn’t be an issue with this kayak, at least not in the 12.5, I honestly didn’t ask about the 10.5
I'd like to know if "BEST OF SHOW" is voted by patrons or companies who grease the ballot box? Like the auto companies, i question everything because everyone gets a trophy with money.
This is my personal Best of Show. The official one is subject to the things you are alluding to and over the years I’ve always chosen my own.
Often times I’ve chosen companies that are direct competitors to the companies that I’ve partnered with. So, for this one, the only outside influence is my experience and my instincts about the sport and the industry as a whole.
I would have gone this one if I had not already had my Hobie PA14
I wonder how a side wind effects these kayaks having the flatter bottom?
I’d think they would be more susceptible to being blown around in circles.
Not as much as you think with the rudder and pedal drive creating enough drag to prevent any from happening
Question the fish finder mount for native x coming soon? What date release? The 2 fish finder mount?
Not sure on my end. I’m sure they will announce all of that very soon or you can likely contact your nearest dealer and they will have the most up to date information on anticipated release and availability dates and times.
Awesome, how did you conceal the transducer wire running from the dry pod to the unit? Did you have to drill into the hull for that? I would like to get that double graph setup
Im not 100% sure but I will get with them and find out and get back to you.
I need one of those very nice boat
Nice, GB is the man!
Nope on running bow mount on that particular boat from the battery in the back as its 36v and motor guide is 12v. Unless they have a voltage conversion module installed.
The voltage conversion is you put whatever battery to want. The wiring is rated for 36V so it will be more than adequate for 12V
wish they would sell it without the propel drive and id go buy one tmw.
Be sure to bring this up to your local dealer.
@@ChadHooverFishing I did, hoping we can work something out.
You know one thing that they haven't talked about is where is the transducer located? Is it in the same spot as the other Native kayaks?
Pretty much. We will cover that when we get the boat out where we can flip it over and do the hull walkthrough
Awesome boat!!
Isn’t that a Nucanoe seat?
Only if the NuCanoe seat is the seat from every bass boat and pond boat that used it before. But I know what you mean. Native had a spin around seat a long time ago on one of their Paddleboard kayak hybrids, Diablo had one, Jackson has it on the BlueSky, etc. It’s just hard when people say this stuff when it’s all been done before in other places. It’s the evolution of the sport
@@ChadHooverFishing You’re right. I actually did see one of those seats on Amazon but under a different name.
Hey guys! Can anyone tell me, the hull Design is same as Titan 12 or 13.5? How deep is it sits in water? I mean the water line is same as at the earlier modells when scuppers are unplugged?
Thanks
Why does this not have Hobie's fin style pedal drive? The patent expired, Pelican is now using it for example.
Well, there are several reasons.
1. Native developed this well before the patent expired and they were the first with reverse.
2. This pedal drive is vastly superior in the reliability department.
3. Many people love the instant reverse without have to pull a cord or anything like that.
4. Some companies have integrity that extends beyond whether it’s “legal” to do something
5. Hobie has patent extensions on the reverse and other improvements so it would be like going back to not having reverse at all after you are the company that touted “First with Reverse” for over a decade.
6. Because they have improved this drive to the point where it works flawlessly with their hulls and systems and it’s very durable and maintenance free for the most part
7. Because companies like Pelican, Lightning and a bunch of other Alibaba boats are already doing it like you said.
Do any modern kayaks use a stabilizer similar to a hawaiian canoe? To keep it from tipping.
No, because the stability is built into the hull and those outriggers make it difficult to navigate most of the places that we fish in kayaks. There are some aftermarket versions, but with the stability of most modern fishing kayaks they are not needed.
@@ChadHooverFishing so do you fish blue water? Nobody cares about stability in a lake or backwater estuary where its always flat. Out in the deep ocean is where u need stability. Swells, wind, tiger sharks. Thats the environment im talking about. I know there are hulls that are proven in blue water but curious about the newest super big wide hulls. They are beautiful with all the amenities and space for gear.
suggestion...i will put a prop ontop
Huh?
I wish someone closer to me sold these . Any find them anywhere to get an in person look at one / sit in one .
Jump on the KBF Group and make a post and see if there is a member near you.
@@ChadHooverFishing I’ll give it a shot . Thank you. I was about to pull the trigger on a new PA14 but really want to see the Titan x first considering the savings .
Chad as a fan, help me pick out my next kayak! Hobie PA14 360 or Titan X?
I kinda think I just did. 😜
The price of the kayak is $3,600.00. With all the accessories they have on this I think the total price would be close to $10,000. You can get a decent used bass boat for that price.
But then you still have a bass boat. We fish out of these kayaks for what they offer in access and control and even if a “bass boat” was cheaper it’s not the point. And you are pricing out all the stuff new and then comparing it to something you can buy used which isn’t an apples to apples comparison. If you bought this boat new, then shopped for the motor and other parts used you wouldn’t be anywhere near $10,000. Also, this boat was setup over the top to show off for ICAST, most people aren’t putting a bow mount and stern mount and two Power Poles
I’d be interested in switching from my Hobie Pa12 360 to the Titan X. There’s no dealers in the Phoenix area though. Kinda hate the thought of driving 6 hours to the closest dealer just to look at it.
Where did you get the Hobie?
@@ChadHooverFishing A dealer here in Phoenix.
Wow!
What’s your favorite feature?
Can you control the rudder with foot steering is the question?
I don’t think so. I mean, you me able to set it up that way, but it’s not set up that way at the factory.
Just curious. I've been searching your videos... What pfd are you using now? Fixing to upgrade mine and have been watching your reviews. Thanks for all the great videos
Thanks. It’s the Stohlquist PiSEAS
@@ChadHooverFishing thought so but wanted to make sure. Thanks again Chris
I can't decide between this and the Feelfree Dorado 12.5 V2. Any thoughts?
Greg is the best.
He’s such a good dude
Where did you get the graph mount
That’s something that Native is developing
I need to upgrade my sidekick wheels..where do you get the lighter version like in this video?
Pretty cool yak
Curious as to how sidekick wheels deploy...is it lift each side and swing down lock into place or more like a cart where you have to offload some weight & gear to get it up on the cart correctly? Basically do the wheels get you off the landing and back to the truck as easily as 1,2,3?
Most people rotate them down and into position while still on the vehicle or trailer. But you can raise the kayak and deploy them on the ground. Once in the water the kayak floats up and you stow them, coming back to the ramp you just do the opposite.
Does the 10.5 come with the same swivel and height seating?
I've got a vibe shearwater and the features of this kayak are awesome. But that price wow that's rough. I thought my shearwater was high but man 3600 is a lot. Does that include a motor?
No, it just includes the pedal drive.
How much does it weigh?
Awesome 👍
👊🏻
Hull speed is 1.4 x the square root of the waterline. 1.4 x 3.4=4.8 mph. To get a boat go faster then hull speed it would have to plane.
That’s true in a planing hull situation and with a fixed “load”. You can’t make a general statement like that about a displacement hull and you can’t get a defined waterline number from a boat with an adjustable seat and payload
@@ChadHooverFishing The math equations 1.4 can vary between 1 and 1.4 based on the shape of the displacement hull. My point is a 10 ft kayak will be slower than a 12 ft kayak. All 12 ft kayak will have the same hull speed.
Hey Chad, glad you kept calling it a boat. In my opinion it's not a kayak. It's a tiny boat.
Cool, you can call it whatever you want. I’m not sure why people get so wrapped around the axle about this though honestly. Once you go down that road if it’s not seal skin stretched over a hand made frame is it really a kayak?
@@ChadHooverFishing no one is wrapping around any axles. I just like telling it like it is and thats a tiny boat.
Fully loaded like that were you able to use those sidekick wheels or is it to heavy where the screws may pull out?
You can use them according to Native. They have the tracks specifically set up for it
i will like to know how good is offshore
I will find out very soon. Can’t imagine that it’s not going to do very well, but we will put it through the paces to make 100% sure
Ok, let us know about,i live in tampa bay and i want to go on the gulf.
I love it
👍
Chad thanks for a great showing of this kayak you nailed it but I have one question will 2 torqeedo batterie fit in the box behind the seat? I have one on pre order and I want to put both of my torqeedo batterie there so do you think they both will fit thanks
Yes it will
@ChadHooverFishing great. I can't wait to get mine. I know what parts I will be taking off my P127 for this new beast. the only thing that has me a little concerned is the weight. Also, I did not know you took people out on the water. I mean, I seen you do it on your RUclips channel, so now you have me thinking of doing this next spring or summer for vacation time
Does have spot lock
Spot lock is a feature of the motor, not the kayak
How much ?
LoL brother just looking for that 5ft wide 150 hp kayaks the price of kayaks are out of hand you don't need all that stuff to catch fish think about it
Cool. Go do that then. There are actually more cheap kayaks now than there have ever been. Just because some have gotten expensive doesn’t mean it’s “out of hand”
Just giving you a hard time keep up the good work 👍
Awesome kayaks! I know the weight on the website says the weight it TBD, but do you have a guess one as to what the 10.5 weights?
Tx 12 will be around 10 lbs less than current Titan 13.5.. this is from Native rep who answered my question on their initial Titan X video with GB.. hope this helps
I hear what you are saying, but even the reps don’t really know until they finish rotomolding some and measuring thicknesses and then adjusting hull shot weight until they find the sweet spot
$4k out the door; NO FRIGGIN WAY! Not many of us can afford or justify the expense.
Yeap. That’s part of it. Not every product is for everyone
Chad, can you let us know what they used for the center console on that new native? I Just talked with yakattack, and they said native piece it together. I see they use the locknload bace and 2 of the 90-degree angles, but what did they use to go across? If you answer that, that be awesome and did you say the tub is already there for the feet steering? Been rewatching the viedo to see if any one said it but has not heard hope u can help me out has everything else already ordered for the new native thanks in advance if you have answer
The tube is already there for the foot steering and so are the foot braces. As for the CrossBar they just pieces that together and it’s not an actual product. However, I’m working with a company that will officially launch soon called OPS (Outdoor Product Solutions) that will offer a number of solutions similar to this
@ChadHooverFishing great I'll keep my eye out for I really want a center console for my 2 ff and a few other things