Crazy Efficient Toothpick! // KababFPV TP3 😲
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Can you please share your rates mine has a lot of bounce back and just isnt locked in at all.
Definitely would love to see you do a tune video for TP3 as well as a video for a TP3 HD. It's so powerful and efficient that it will definitely be able to take on some additional weight. Probably fly even more like a bigger 5 inch quad with higher weight to throw around. It already flies great in its current form.
That’s amazing efficiency! All that efficiency and it still looks plenty fast, that one is a keeper for sure. I’m loving all these ultra light, super efficient, quiet little power houses. Thanks for another great review!
My TP3 is so smooth! I have the 1204 motors waiting on the 1303s to come back in stock. I'd love to see an HD build!
Hey cool drone
I like the fact that you don't put music over your flight videos like all the other reviewers, so you can hear how loud or quiet the quads are when they fly. Kudos Mr. Kim!
Thanks... so many people complain there's no music! Why!!!???
Hopefully there's enough interest I like to see a pid tune video on this...also like to get in these rpm filters..this is my kind of build..I'm always looking for efficient builds
You can count me in brotha!
Agreed!
+1 please!
There's no magic tune, just flash 4.1 and use the defaults, they're wonderful.
Finally a quad with great flight times! The digital era is here and now the long flight time era is arriving! This is what we need.
"The voltage went up...c'mon"...
Had me rolling....
I like this one. My friend gave me the frame. I'll be building one in time!
Wow that’s an amazing flyer , I’m here for the tune video too
Fantastic flying, Albert! Really nice!!! 😃
This little quad seems fun as hell! 😃
Always wanted a toothpick class quad but the sub-5min flight times were a no go, this is brilliant!
Cheers, from one Leaf FPV pilot to another! :)
Dang, that’s impressive. I literally just finished my primo 3 build, and you just convinced me that I have to have the TP3 in my stable too!
building mine up right now with betafpv 12a aoi, betafpv 1205 5000kv, eachine micro vtx, xm+, nano 3 and the same 3016 tris.
Cant wait! Just need all these storms to blow over!
Kudos on that flight time🤘👌
Me from the future🙏
waoo!!! that 's the key, fly time. This is awesome, thanks for sharing 😍
That is the great!!! I really like the long flight time. Gotta build one now.
Parts are on the way thanks for sharing 👍
This is what im going to get next!!! I love the long flight time!!! Thanks so much for this review! Kababfpv is the Man!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great Review And Great Flying!!!!!!!
Great video on the TP3 , Albert! Love those motors. I fly the TP3 (1303 Fpv Cycle) mainly on 2s and it's awesome on 2s as well (especially since space is a premium here).
One of the best quads I have and love to fly. Wait haha I just got done flying mine like 2 mins ago.
Mine has the 1303 motors tho 3s 450.
I can get way over 5 mins with mine even when I bring it down at 3.6v per cell.
Thunk your the only reviewer that has even built one.
Looks good man
Great video and ridiculous flight time! I just got Bob's Baby Tooth frame and am working on a 1-2S build but will definitely check this frame out too!
Awesome flying Albert! Nice lil ripper 👍🏻 Would be interesting to see the HD version. Camera looks pretty good though already.
Damn that flys good. A full build video for the beginners would be great.
See this video for a tear down of a toothpick. They are all pretty similar in the way they are built... ruclips.net/video/mjpeCq2-FvU/видео.html
I've also just got a tp3. Using 550mah 3s gnb battery, because I had them laying around. You should see if fly. I get 8 minutes of flight time with cruising (rest voltage 3,75v), and 5 min of really hard flying. Just amazing. The handling is so good
Luv mine getting 7 min same motors on a heavier build. I could probably get 8 min too if I tone it down a bit.
Video looks great, insane battery life, I like it!
BigD-FPV I agree! I know he said he was using an onboard DVR but, I was keeping an eye on his goggle DVR in the spilt view and it was rocking out pretty good as well.
@@sharkey5150 Yeah definitely was.
Historically - a couple years ago when i paid attention to KV testing.... Tmotor always tested at a higher KV than advertised. Emax always tested lower KV that advertised... so i'm not surprised to hear you think the Tmotors are higher KV than expected.
RE: amazing flight time.... how old is the battery you tested with ? New batteries always have that magic first few cycles where they seem to last forever... then they seem to drop off and settle in at lower flight times for most their life. This effect is especially noticeable when going from all old batteries in your fleet, to new batteries. Definitely long flight times here though and thats awesome!
Great vid, awesome quad! thanks for sharing!
I think the battery I used is at least three years old but used very gently and never over-discharged
Well for one it's one of the lightest whoops out there... running a f4 board with the runcam nano 3 makes it nearly futureproof... perfect for indoor racing (which I would love to do!)... and to add... its freaking awesome looking!
wow! crazy flight time,think i'll build one.thanks for the review.
Thanks for doing this review albert. I got one of these and am going to convert my eachine twig over to it. Should be a fun experience. Definitely interested in a video for bf 4.1 setup for this.
Just follow my BF 4.1 guide... I use the same steps on all my quads. ruclips.net/video/JP88ci9lJ6w/видео.html
Looks great! I need to build one of these. I am loving digital but you can't build something like this quite yet;)
I got one of these in progress with almost the exact same parts - the VTX won't power up when connected to the FC, even though it does on the bench when powered from 5V. Maybe the regulator on the FC is toasted? I don't know.
Anyway, if it flies so long with the 450mAh, maybe with a smaller battery it would have enough excess power to really thrash. Looking forward to finding out.
Awesome frame, One of my favorites. I used the diatone cube canopy Swwet! Ginga !Brown!
Nice build. Would like to see an ultra light toothpick build off the mobula 6 parts.
Michael Reyes I thought Albert built one already? I’ll have to look back on his channel and see. In any event, I agree and would like to see more reviewers try to do a build off using that system to see if it is really worth it. I’m hoping to see some competition between other manufacturers on that type of board. We have what, 1 company right now making such a true all/everything in one board?
@Michael Reyes I already built one... ruclips.net/video/ttBj5d-nPSE/видео.html
Love the performance combined with great flight time. I just would like to see less prop and especially prop hub. Maybe with your HD build it the camera will be pushed up a bit and therefore show a little less prop! I have the 48khz on my Mob6, but not yet on my Diatone Cube229. I'm wondering if you think the 48khz made much difference in the flight time on those motors. My cube has only 1103s of course, and I've seen that joelucid says it makes more difference on smaller motors. Hmmm
Won't make much difference with these larger motors
babytooth is lighter if want unibody.. also you had 8 extra m2 screws on TP3 .. But im Do the ToothPick because he also has 4" arms.. that nameless dvr vtx is awesome.. im try Caddx ANT 4:3
That 8mins was on 3S 450mah.. wow
That's a nice frame
Very nice. For some reason my 5" gets 6-8 minute flights doing freestyle. I and my friends are kind of baffled by the long flight times, but I'm not complaining!
This video is making me want one lol. Built my babytooth 2 months ago and still can’t fly it outside, this dam Chicago weather isn’t cooperating lol
Looks awesome Kabab is the master.
The FPV feed is better than the DVR
Nice! Would love a tune video.
Try some Sugru moldable silicone for custom battery pad. I shaped one right around the screw. Cures in
I finally got around to building my TP3 lol. I used xing 1303 5000kv because they were available and a bit cheaper.
😎
Tune would be awesome Albert!
Thanks for that review!
Albert,
Thank you. How would you compare the efficiency and flight performance with the 1303 5000kv on this TP3 build vs the Brother Hobby 1402 8100KV ? It’s fascinating and fun to push the envelope on these builds. Which motor in your opinion would give best run time vs performance? Thank you again.
Very Best Regards, Jim
I would definitely like to see you do a BF4.1 tune video with this quad!!!
OK
i really love your videos but im wondering why you never calibrate your current sensor?
I'll be sure to turn it off from now on
Just a thought: For me the USPS shipping rates pretty much mean the end of looking. I am sure it is a very nice product and Kabab have spent long hours on developing it but to me being in the UK it means a lot of added cost. A replacement arm is also a no for the same reason. Hopefully some UK store will be selling it soon(?).
Hey Albert ! Love your videos!! I have a tinyhawk s and now looking for more power and fun maybe a 3 inch ... what would you recommend?? Should I build this kebabfpv tp3?? Amazing fly time!
Yeah, this would be a good transition into 3-inch from where you are now. I say go for it.
Albert Kim Great thank you for the response! Do you recommend any other quad? Or should I look in to a 5inch ... I would like to rip and speed more
Dude! Your comments towards the end were priceless. Is it just me? But, do these motors sound eerily familiar? Like, say when you’re in a dentist/oral surgeons chair fix to get a tooth filled. Ha ha ha.... just sayin....?
Mr. Kim Very disappointed in my build on this frame. What say you on the bi blade / tri blade options for these motors . I'm considering 1404 for Biblades because my Run Cam Nano2 , heat shrunk GoKu VTX or TBS Nano VTX and Heat Shrunk arms are contributing to an all up weight of like 110g. I'm removing some excess wire today but still VERY VERY frustrating ...
Why are you disappointed? What went wrong exactly?
Just keeps getting better. 👌🏼
Not only is the flight time insane, the voltage drop on your sustained punch-outs looked like nothing! Does the metering on it seem accurate to you?
The voltage sensor is calibrated right so that voltage sag is correct.
Please make tuning video 👍
Thinking about building one of these. Can it be flown on 2s with those motors? Looking for something tame for the yard.
Yes, 2S works too. It will still be fast for a yard.
@@AlbertKimTV I just noticed there is a babytooth version. Maybe I'll build that first.
Nice litle one,tnx
I'd like to see a 1S babytooth build.
Here ya go... ruclips.net/video/ttBj5d-nPSE/видео.html
That's amazing little quad I built one with the 1303 amaxinno
That motor is also hard to find!
Will this build be even more quiet if you use two blade props ?
Wow that current meter is way off, "748 mAh used" on a 450 mAh battery
Justin Time now that’s some sick efficiency!! Ha ha ha so efficient it’ll charge your battery while you fly. Must be some of that TESLA regenerative braking going on.🤪
regenerative braking!
Unibody for the win. #neverbrokearmclub
Nice!... Im sure I'd snap those arms in about 5 seconds. lol
Amazingly, they have survived a lot of hard crashes. I bought extra arms just in case, but I don't think I'll ever need them!
Have you flown it on 2s yet? I’m wondering how these motors do on 2s. I know their 1204’s did well on 2s.
I have not. I think it will just be slower.
Albert Kim lol yeah I’d assume it would be a tad slower 😝. I’m just wondering the handling of it and how it changes between 2s and 3s. Like my gtb339 I love running 2s mainly bc I only have 2 3s packs and their too big for these new micros but was great on my old tinyhawk r a couple years ago. But anyway the gtb339 on 3s really isn’t much faster than on 2s. Yea top end is a lot higher but the control I get on 2s down low is similar to it on 3s. Was wondering if these 1303’s were similar. Just trying to figure things out for a micro spec class we’re making down here. So far we’re thinking of the diatone gtb339 bc most of ya have one already and running them 2s. Their still plenty fast. I just posted a vid of me tuning mine 2s on falcoX. I don’t really go above about 75% throttle in that vid tho but it’s still movin. 👍👍
Video is working now. Will the Mobula 7 parts fit in this frame and do I need any additional parts like the canopy?
That canopy or rather “camera holder” is one of the best out there, in my opinion, and probably one of the least expensive as well. I bought a half dozen or so from Kabobs FPV cycle site thinking they would probably break fairly easy but, to my surprise they are very strong and to top that they are very light as well. I’m still just a 2 -1/2 year noob but in my experience so far, I’ve learned that Albert and Kabob are honest to a fault. They both always tell it like it is and mostly do it in a professional and respectable manner without burning too many bridges. Well, on second thought kabob has put Caddx on blast more than a few times but, they seem to be responding with better QC bc of it. At least it looks that way.
Any chance to get a BNF of this one? I don’t have time to build. Either this one or the Kira.
It's sold out
Awesome!! 🤩🤗 i would love to see a hd toothpick in this size :/ but for now i stay with my whoop
Amazing flight time. How can I purchase one built already?
It's on their website but it's sold out. Also it's like $500
@@AlbertKimTV damn I can build 2 for that price 😱
How would these motors compare to the BetaFPV 1204 500kv? I'm building one of these up, but with China shut down, it may be awhile before these motors are back in stock. Thanks for the review!
The 1303 motors are more efficient and a little better control feel below 50% throttle. The 1204 will have more top end speed and a little better acceleration.
Do a vista on this
WTH - too funny! Did you fly without Jazz to see if that swaps some power for efficiency? Could shave some weight by using an Eachine VTX without DVR. Frankly I wasn’t impressed by my recorded footage with Runcam nano 3. Might just make that swap myself. Goggle footage is good enough for me. I may just have to try this!!! Cheers.
I'm running 24khz, so it's basically the same as 16.7 just bidirectional dshot has been enabled for RPM filter.
rofl it stays at 11.2 or .3 for like ever. This thing flys great can't wait to see hd tp. Just cruising you could have flown 10 or 12 minutes.
Hey Albert , I have the 1s babytooth and absolutely love it, that being said is the tp3 just insanely faster?
Not sure I would say it's "insanely" faster but faster for sure.
I have an geprc skip 3 with a 1105 motors, but i'm mind blowed about motors, some people think that 1105 are pretty efficient and then i see this with 1303, and other with 1204. Which advantages has them?
Hey, i am planning to build this with the Runcam Hybrid 2.
Would you recommend it, or do you think that the camera size and weight would compromise the advantages of the TP3 ?
My main concern is finding a good and large enough Canopy for the weird sized Hybrid 2.
Any tips?
The extra weight will compromise the TP3 performance and I don't know of any canopy that will work with it. Perhaps everyone knows it won't work on the TP3 so no one has bothered to make a canopy for it.
Hi Albert, please help with PID info on this one.
What kind of problem are you having?
Albert, How would the brother hobby 1402 8100kv compare to the 1303 5000kv on efficiency and performance? Thanks for your input. This is my next build.
I don't think the 1402 will be as efficient. Just my guess. I have not tested it.
cant find these TMotors in 1303 anywhere
they haven't released the final versions yet.
Amazing
This 1303 could be a good upgrade for 1105 about efficiency and torque?
yes
After ldark et115 I brought darwinfpv baby ape and run it on 2s (2s 550 mah battery from et115.) I had the same feeling 😂 after flew almost 9 min on it.
Tried old 1000mah 2s and flew 12min.
So yes I understand the feeling 😂
😁
would like a fully tuned video!
Can you do a review on the Xilo Phreakstyle slam 6s?
Never heard of it... I'll have to Google it.
More flight time = more time to crash.
Please sell me one Albert fantastic looks awesome 👏🏼
this one is a keeper... sorry!
Albert Kim I wouldn’t sell either but I will have to build one damn happy flying Albert
Doing this since 2016... old news looks like he finally “borrowed” the 3”
Oh, nice! Where can I buy your frame? Would love to build one. What motors? Whats the AUW?
I saw an insightful comment on Furadi's first toothpick video. He built a small "toothpick,"quad, 3" or maybe smaller, but it was a chunky little thing. The comment pointed out that what makes a "toothpick," is not just building a small quadcopter, but that the real/unique TP experience was unlocked by actually using the specced parts, and a
heiving an AUW somewhere in the specified range. This sweet spot delivers a unique, and noteworthy flying experience. Anything outside of spec is, well, just a small drone. And while 3" seems to be the sweet spot, recall that this evolved from the original concept of making a small frame that one could migrate all the parts from a bl whoop onto, making a stealthy pocket park flyer, with high performance.
Instead of being bitter about a scenario that you may be over simplifying, build one up, to spec, and then share your informed opinion. For me, this is all about having fun . Im making the assumption that it's the same for you. If that's true, build one of these, for real. Order a Chinese clone frame if that makes you feel better. Just make sure you aren't leaving on the table, the potentially profound experience of what is likely pinacle moment in this niche of the hobby.
I genuinely would appreciate any resources you could share, that would help me replicate one of your past designs/builds. Cheers-
Listen, I believe you when you suggest you were out front with cutting edge micro/nano builds, long before the hyped up movement of today, and Im going to your channel with the sincere mission of gathering the info i need in order to build/replicate one for myself.
Please tell me you have a tune for the tp3! Currently building one and would love to try it out
I flew it on default PIDs. You have to follow the instructions in the 3 videos in the description to match my setup however.
Which capacitor size did you used?
It's the stock one that comes with the board. I think it's 220uF 25v but I'm not 100% sure.
@@AlbertKimTV thanks
Any chance ur gonna review the spcmaker leiteng 115 3 inch toothpick?
Eventually assuming it isn't still vaporware.
Hay do u thank if l put the 1303. 5000kv motors on my sail fly x . l could get longer flight time.
Not sure. The motor is a lot heavier and the prop size is smaller . It's the wrong KV for that prop size too.
Any recommendations on alternative motors for this build?
1204 5000kv (BetaFPV, rcInPower), T-Motor 1303 5100kv
The Xing Nano 1105 6000kv is an excellent alternative.
Also, check out Taco RC for rock bottom price on the pink and blue RCInPower 1204 5000kv (smooooth af.)
Is there any suitable motors to run this on 2s ?
Yes, absolutely. Amaxxino 1103 7500kv make a fantastic build on the modular TP 3 frame, flying on GnB 450mah HV 2S packs. I trimmed weight at every corner for mine, but not because it's imperative. Great performance. In fact it's profoundly easier to wield than a 3S, but still snappy, agile, and flies great indoors.
For some reason mine is flying like shit. Can you show your rates and filtering. I am on the 10.7 4.1.1
Totally stock Betaflight rates and PIDs but I have RPM filter setup. See my tutorial playlist for the video on how to do that.
Agree it's a great concept/drone but they can't keep parts in stock on the website! 😭
It certainly looks that way but, I think it’s a matter of bad timing right now. The Chinese New Year being a 3-4 week holiday combined with the Corona-virus outbreak has slowed things down considerably. Hopefully, the Chinese people can rebound quickly so that all of us FPV Kwad lovers can get our fix.
Can someone provide me a betaflight config dump for this model? Built mine but having issues with it flipping even though the board orientation/ prop directions are correct. Thanks
Do the motor directions match the props? Quads flip over if the board is not oriented correctly, prop are on wrong, motors are going in the wrong direction. It's one of those.
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China New Year
I love the thought of these, but they look so weak
Im assuming you refer to their aesthetic. You can build it to look how you want, while still staying reasonably within spec. Ive built 8 of these, all different styles, none of them look like this one, and none use that bee canopy. (I really dont like that bee canopy lol.) A couple look absolutely fierce, imo, especially my waterproof one (an all black creature.)
If youre interested, I can upload and share my builds.
"Only things I soldered on were the camera... the video transmitter... and the receiver... and the motors..."
So uh, everything?