FIRST LOOK!! RunCam WiFiLink OpenIPC 🔥🔥🔥

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @AlbertKimTV
    @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +14

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  • @andyvasquez4392
    @andyvasquez4392 2 месяца назад +7

    This is pretty cool, it would be cool to see what the range would be. Thanks for another awesome video, you reviews are very informative and well explained. Thanks again and keep the vids rollin!!

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for watching!

    • @0rbnotacus
      @0rbnotacus 24 дня назад

      Whole reason I came to this video :/

  • @What..a..shambles
    @What..a..shambles 2 месяца назад +17

    It's going to be interesting in 12 to 18 mths 🤞🏻

  • @lameandboard
    @lameandboard 2 месяца назад +5

    This is very interesting its great they finally have an HD product thats open source

  • @vanlifefpv6340
    @vanlifefpv6340 2 месяца назад +14

    This is very interesting and could be a contender if they can improve the latency further. Looking forward to more videos on this tech, thanks. Also, please enter me for the scrubber too.

    • @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542
      @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 2 месяца назад +2

      latency is already under 50ms, just on runcam seems to have some issues. hopefully is just bad config from factory

    • @vanlifefpv6340
      @vanlifefpv6340 2 месяца назад

      @@eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 On what hardware is it under 50ms? Can you be more specific?

    • @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542
      @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 2 месяца назад

      ​@@vanlifefpv6340 sure. on the air side, using an off the shelf SSC338q+imx415 board, and installing openIPC, and using a RTL8812au USB wifi module attached, and on the ground side, using either a Radxa zero 3W and also an RTL8812au USB wifi stick, or a more powerful android device running something like a snapdragon 8 gen 1, and using the same USB wifi stick. we have confirmed latency consistently under 50ms on the bench, using a 1000fps camera and led setup.

    • @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542
      @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 2 месяца назад +1

      ​ @vanlifefpv6340 sure. on the air side, using an off the shelf SSC338q+imx415 board, and installing openIPC, and using a RTL8812au USB wifi module attached, and on the ground side, using either a Radxa zero 3W and also an RTL8812au USB wifi stick, or a more powerful android device running something like a snapdragon 8 gen 1, and using the same USB wifi stick. we have confirmed latency consistently under 50ms on the bench, using a 1000fps camera and led setup.

    • @JoshFPV24
      @JoshFPV24 2 месяца назад

      @@eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 Like Albert said, high-end snapdragon on Android is recommended. So higher-end and more expensive hardware is needed on the receiver and ground station side. At least the air units looks to be pretty cheap.

  • @frankcastillo8869
    @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +3

    They can definitely improve the board designs on this. Looks like they just slapped a bunch of things together without really thinking things through. They will probably be an updated version of this in less than a month. I'm calling it now. Please enter me for the scrubber, thanks.

  • @xavierprimeto1752
    @xavierprimeto1752 2 месяца назад +9

    When will you be testing the EMAX version of this? RunCam should also make the ground station as well. It seems a little hard to get the receiver side to work right now based on your testing. Please enter me for the scrubber, thanks.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +3

      I hope to have the EMAX sample soon!

  • @k0r0e0s
    @k0r0e0s 2 месяца назад +1

    This looks promising! Please do some range and penetration tests (behind trees/buildings) when you get this thing flying!!! 🤩🤩🤩

  • @krazed0451
    @krazed0451 2 месяца назад +5

    The guy doing freestyle with this system is using a self build camera setup linked to a Linux ground station 😊
    That said, I'm seeing claims of 35ms latency with the RadXa VRX, too.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +5

      I believe with faster processing on the receiver side, super low latency is definitely possible. I've been looking for a guide on how to build that Radxa VRX but not having any luck so far...

    • @zandolifpv
      @zandolifpv Месяц назад

      @@AlbertKimTV the link I recently replied with takes you directly to the OpenIPC GitHub with the necessary files and instructions for setting up the Radxa Zero 3W. I don't think it passed your check.

  • @StevePotter
    @StevePotter 2 месяца назад

    Looks very promising. Thanks for trailblazing for us! If you aim the camera at the phone's screen, you can easily judge the latency by seeing how quickly it fills with many smaller feedback images.

  • @testboga5991
    @testboga5991 2 месяца назад +1

    The market clearly needs more competition! Super cool thing!

  • @pandrews01
    @pandrews01 2 месяца назад

    Great intro/review of a new product. Great idea. I can foresee numerous applications.

  • @925fpv
    @925fpv 2 месяца назад +30

    These open source DIY projects are what make FPV interesting. So tired of the BS hdzero hype. This is much better. Like you said, it's still early days so hopefully we will see more options on the transmitter and receiver side. Looking forward to more of your videos and please share the EMAX system ASAP. Finally, please enter me for the scrubber, thanks!

    • @nycfpv
      @nycfpv 2 месяца назад

      @@925fpv they definitely make it cheaper. ELRS modules are packed with tech for $10 and they perform wonderfully

    • @frankcastillo8869
      @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +3

      HDZERO is worthless. I burned 3 VTXes after only a few flights and then when I asked why they told me I must have done something wrong. Worthless products and worthless pilots!

    • @jayb3385
      @jayb3385 2 месяца назад +3

      My hdzero works fine.
      Regardless, definitely following this tech and hope it becomes usable.

  • @BadChad-tn3ii
    @BadChad-tn3ii Месяц назад

    Thanks Albert. I know it's not there yet but I'm excited for open ipc

  • @jlarson42
    @jlarson42 2 месяца назад +2

    Very interesting and exciting to see. I have seen some videos explaining openipc, no where near this level of completeness . For those interested in projects and open source, this could fun.
    It looks like the emax version has a ground station rx. Wondering if it can be linked to goggles or only android phones? 🤔

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад

      Videos I've seen suggest it similar to the setup shown here, using USB OTG cable from VRX to phone currently. But details are short at the moment

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      Their receiver is the same one as you saw in this video. USB Wifi Adapter. It's just packaged a little nicer.

  • @JoshFPV24
    @JoshFPV24 2 месяца назад +4

    Looks like they have half of the equation here. They need googles and a complete ground station solution. Using Android phones as a platform is a bit sketchy since the majority of android hardware is low quality and not very good as you have shown in this video. Also, it looks like the other ground station solutions either don't work or are difficult for most people to set up. Like you said, this is early days so hopefully progress will be quick here. Thanks for the video and please enter me for the scrubber.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +1

      OpenIPC based goggles are in the works

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      @nic_h who or what is working on these goggles? Care to share? Or is this just vaporware?

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +2

      @@AlbertKimTV It was from a reply by MarioFPV in one of his recent videos "Introducing OpenIPC RunCam AIO"
      "We are developing OpenIPC goggles. I posted a video for the honorary members of the first prototype. Cheers mate" MarioFPV
      I wasn't an honorary member and didn't dig into the details further sorry. So currently I think it counts as vaporware, although given the source and likely existence of a prototype it appears to being worked on.

  • @fezfpv
    @fezfpv 2 месяца назад +10

    Future of digital fpv

  • @bretrowlinson
    @bretrowlinson 2 месяца назад +8

    Been watching this project for a while so it's nice to see products coming out. Agreed, early days, but promising. :)

  • @MyTube4Utoo
    @MyTube4Utoo 2 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting! Thanks for the video. (new sub)

  • @NIKOSPORTSreal
    @NIKOSPORTSreal 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks nice!

  • @TheJohnnySaunders
    @TheJohnnySaunders 2 месяца назад

    Im looking at making a wireless hook camera for cranes and long reach excavators and this is perfect .... il be buying this .... got to be better than the analogue system I'm currently using

  • @jaechoe
    @jaechoe 2 месяца назад +3

    Great to see runcam releasing an open IPC beta product. 2 standoff on one side does seem risky 🤔. Sure the next future versions will be better in all ways, the build, latency, and eventually goggles. Maybe a gaming pc might be ideal seems like you need a very capable video processor on you android device. Awesome review and thanks for testing. Will wait for future versions. Please enter me in the scrubber giveaway.

  • @MS-px5ug
    @MS-px5ug Месяц назад

    Hi, what's the type of the flight controller you are using? Can you connect DC power supply directly to the Wifilink? Thanks

  • @dayworkhard
    @dayworkhard 2 месяца назад

    Great to know some opensource solutions. The delay is just too big. It will be improved

  • @Bisofication
    @Bisofication 2 месяца назад +1

    What's the anticipated range with this setup? Just ordered mine :)

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +4

      Not sure. I think it depends on the hardware you have and antennas. I heard someone already attempted 20km with this a couple months ago.

  • @zira_fluff4105
    @zira_fluff4105 2 месяца назад

    Great coverage of this OpenIPC product. Very interesting - glad that you warned people about not putting this on expensive builds as it is early days.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      Well, that's a standard disclaimed because someone will do that of course then blame me that I didn't warn them!

  • @impuls60
    @impuls60 2 месяца назад

    Imagine getting this tech into all those cheap drones sending vid to android phones already just with huge latency. That market is massive and if they could mass produce a simpler smaller version of this whith all done in an Android app this could be BIG. One can now get cheap Orange pi boards with Android as receivers. All we lack now is a miniscule plug'n play TX.

  • @arthurgiourdjian9071
    @arthurgiourdjian9071 2 месяца назад

    Currently I could see this geared towards RC cars and planes. IMO, FPV drones requires goggles and I dont see how this easily integrates into existing goggles even if there was an HDMI option, it would just be too messy. Pretty neat that this even exists and I'm excited to see where it goes. I'd definitely be interested to see what the range looks like. Slap this on a cheap drone haha

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +1

      There are some decent long range flights you can watch. They can definitely get good range with the right setup and conditions

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +2

      I already saw someone make a VRX like the Walksnail one and plugged into his HDZERO goggles via HDMI and he said latency is as good as DJI O3 which is kinda insane.

    • @arthurgiourdjian9071
      @arthurgiourdjian9071 2 месяца назад

      @@AlbertKimTV wow I'll check that out, thanks!

    • @stelic9515
      @stelic9515 2 месяца назад

      If the app have VR mode we can use cheap VR goggles that can be find everywhere

  • @stelic9515
    @stelic9515 2 месяца назад

    Hope this will be "ELRS for FPV video"

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      I guess we will find out in a few months.

  • @pofotiouzois
    @pofotiouzois 2 месяца назад +2

    Can you test it with a newer smartphone and compare the latency?

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +2

      Yes, I'll try but I expect latency to be lower with faster hardware since the decoding is very processor intensive.

    • @Ranavage
      @Ranavage Месяц назад

      I would also really like to see some h264 latency and quality comparison. To my understanding h265 has much higher processing demand and hardware decoding isn’t as widely supported on older hardware.

  • @ShermanKenB
    @ShermanKenB 2 месяца назад

    It might have potential. Osd? Build your own vtx as most fpv pilots don't fly off an android screen and current form factor looks useful for a 5 inch or a wing.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +1

      There are other options like Radxa 3W for the VRX. Also goggles are being worked on

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      @nic.h Where did you see info on goggles? I didn't see it anywhere... please share.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlbertKimTV It was from a reply by MarioFPV in one of his recent videos "Introducing OpenIPC RunCam AIO"
      "We are developing OpenIPC goggles. I posted a video for the honorary members of the first prototype. Cheers mate" MarioFPV

  • @bmudskipper112386
    @bmudskipper112386 2 месяца назад

    Ooh nice, so is this possible to have the phone with a hotspot on the vehicle to go endless distance? Then use another device to pick up the signal from that onboard phone? I'm curious to use this on a long range fpv rc.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад

      That setup sounds strange, not sure I follow.
      There are videos available showing long range flights using OpenIPC. I think 80km was the last one I remember seeing.

  • @ArtemchukOleksii
    @ArtemchukOleksii Месяц назад

    Open Source it's good. ELRS also was a just open source project

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey Albert, about the latency, just some anecdotal evidence here to support what you're talking about...
    I started in FPV using my smartphone as screen, with the Eachine USB video receiver (I forgot the name) and a VR Box... And it worked great at the time, I had a Galaxy Note 4, that was top of the line at the time... Then, when I had to replace it with a cheaper model... It became unusable. The latency went sky high!
    So, even the phone you have can affect your experience, unfortunately. 😕

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 2 месяца назад

      Eachine ROTG01!

    • @Dreinzf
      @Dreinzf 2 месяца назад +2

      most likely the smartphone's usb port capability is the key here

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 2 месяца назад

      @@Dreinzf you could be right...

  • @Dreinzf
    @Dreinzf 2 месяца назад

    i wonder if this will be quite a game changer like expresslrs? I hope so😂
    now it's time to wait

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      We should know more in a few months. RunCam and EMAX are already working on hardware so there's definitely more companies working under the radar on this for sure.

  • @aligate_fpv8561
    @aligate_fpv8561 2 месяца назад

    The Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra has a 14.6 inch oled screen and Snapdragon 8 gen 1, but it’s pretty expensive.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      Ouch... $900! Almost 3X the price of my DJI Goggles Integra!

    • @aligate_fpv8561
      @aligate_fpv8561 2 месяца назад

      @@AlbertKimTV I got it for 750€

    • @frankcastillo8869
      @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +1

      I thought this stuff was supposed to be cheaper? Looks like it will cost more than DJI O3!

  • @pfeerick
    @pfeerick 2 месяца назад +1

    Looks like should be the Radxa Zero 3W/3E is what you want for the receiver / VRX unit, and that gets the latency down to under 50ms... Don't think the raspberry pi has onboard h265 decoder which is why the Radxa is preferred if you want to bring the latency down. This might be interesting to play with on some surface gear... Thanks for the video, looking forward to seeing how this evolves.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, that's the basic premise of this video. Better hardware = better latency. While this combo has the receiver module, the more important and more expensive part is the decoding hardware which will play a big part in the user experience. Perhaps I did not do a good enough job explaining this?

    • @pfeerick
      @pfeerick 2 месяца назад

      @@AlbertKimTV That will probably be more evident in the followup video, when you have the hardware to do the comparison. And necessarily need more expensive hardware, just hardware with the right capabilities. I.e. AI/LLM focused hardware isn't gonna help here when we need hardware GPU stuff. ;)

    • @frankcastillo8869
      @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AlbertKimTV I fully understood what you were saying, don't worry about other people who clearly are not watching the whole video!

  • @GeorgeN49
    @GeorgeN49 2 месяца назад +4

    Where are all the hdzero fanbois now? Even the latency you showed on that pixel looked better than hdzero and it costs so much less. Thanks for the intro and looking forward to more videos on this. Also, please enter me for the scrubber.

    • @frankcastillo8869
      @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +1

      HDZERO is worthless!! Don't buy any HDZERO stuff. I burned 3 vtx after only a few flights. Lost over $500! Don't waste your money!

    • @ThorrFPV
      @ThorrFPV 2 месяца назад

      ​@@frankcastillo8869 To be honest hdzero is great for what it's meant to be used for: racing. And for the rest you can use it, but it's maybe not the best for the other styles of flying.

  • @emotodude
    @emotodude 2 месяца назад

    Is it a routable protocol? I.e. can you stream real-time over a network, VPN, internet, etc?

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      I don't know. Have you taken a look at the wiki page? github.com/OpenIPC/wiki

  • @jasonleesuffolk
    @jasonleesuffolk 2 месяца назад

    👍😎 👏

  • @JuanRodriguezArchitect
    @JuanRodriguezArchitect 2 месяца назад

    This seems very similar to the Siyi HM30. Is that accurate?

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      I have no idea what that is so I wouldn't know.

  • @deadmoo83
    @deadmoo83 2 месяца назад

    Whoa

  • @DarpaProperty
    @DarpaProperty 2 месяца назад

    Is there a way to run Python code inside this platform for object detection and tracking using OpenCV/Yolo/TinyML? Is this too much to ask for now or should I wait until more powerful hardware gets introduced?

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      I would ask a developer since all that stuff is way over my head.

  • @CookeCraft
    @CookeCraft 2 месяца назад

    Interesting content Albert, thank you. Take care

  • @fullhamfpv
    @fullhamfpv 2 месяца назад

    This is looking really promising and hopefully it'll lead to something big in the future, but why all the dunking on HDZero? I never understand why even in such a niche hobby as ours, many people like to put themselves into camps. I currently fly DJI, HDZero, and analog and I think they're all great and mighty fun. After flying some packs on DJI last night I was thinking to myself just how lucky we are that we have all of these innovative options in FPV to make our hobby such a blast. I say stay positive, fly what you like, and ignore all that negative noise, there is too much of it outside our hobby as it is.
    Thanks for the awesome video Albert, love your content ❤

  • @ZipovUA
    @ZipovUA 2 месяца назад

    Hi Albert Kim, thanks for your video. Could you please make a test for distance range that can achieve this system with default antenas and what antenas could be used for 7km distance?

  • @user-om9fu6iw5x
    @user-om9fu6iw5x 24 дня назад

    A latency test would be nice. Maybe just a quick, point the camera at a stopwatch app and show both screens in the video. That way we can pause and figure out the latency.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  23 дня назад

      Already did it in this video... ruclips.net/video/X7U-p4w9MhU/видео.html

  • @RonJarek
    @RonJarek 2 месяца назад +1

    No iPhone support yet? FPV developers must hate Apple.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      Apple is probably just a lot harder to develop for.

    • @HolyOllie
      @HolyOllie 2 месяца назад

      it doesnt support iphone because its locked down, you cant plug in a wifi adapter. it doesnt support that (bad product)

  • @jamesaustin4260
    @jamesaustin4260 2 месяца назад +2

    I heard the latency is better than HDZERO on this with the right equipment.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      Where did you hear that? I heard the best latency is about 32ms. I think that is still slower than HDZERO.

    • @notsogood4321
      @notsogood4321 2 месяца назад

      @@AlbertKimTV on bench tests ive seen some people say they've reached 20ms but honestly 30ms is the realistic top end you should be able to get at best with current best decoders (radxa 3W zero) but that also has some downsides since you would be missing some features to get to the 30ms latency . I hope you havent gotton too many people angrily messaging that you misquoted the latency , some people in the openIPC community can be very protective of the project (to put it nicely) .
      prehaps the OP misrememberd that some people attached the DIY VRx module to HDZERO goggles (since they have a high refresh rate , so you can get better latency/ latency consistency).
      for best performance i would suggest a high refresh rate goggles paired with a DIY radxa 3W VRx , maybe if you ever get the time you can try it out though i will admit the instructions for the DIY VRx module build can be lacking

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic review, Albert! Thanks a bunch!!! 😃
    This is indeed looking great! I'm definitely going to follow the project's development!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @nerdCopter
    @nerdCopter 2 месяца назад +1

    that form-factor (fan/antennas) makes sense for a wing, not a quad... yet.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад +1

      You can split the boards and ditch the fan. Although I'm not sure how well it would handle the heat without it. Like most quads it'll probably be fine in flight with the right setup.

  • @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542
    @eduardoluisbaptistadeolive8542 2 месяца назад +2

    just FYI there seems to be some latency issues on the runcam that are not present on the DIY boards or on the OPenIPC ones, this is being investigated. hopefully is just configuration, and not a hardware issue.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад +1

      Do you have more info on this? Why is it just this RunCam hardware?

  • @andycapusta7572
    @andycapusta7572 2 месяца назад

    Quest 2, Quest 3, Pico 4. All these and some others should work. The app runs on Pico 4.

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      What are all those?

    • @andycapusta7572
      @andycapusta7572 2 месяца назад

      @@AlbertKimTV Standalone VR headsets. With Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (Qust 2 and Pico 4) and Gen 2 in Quest 3. They do h264 and h265 decoding on daily basis for PC connection. Usuall decoding latency 11 ms. Perfect fpv googles. Moreover, with proper software they won't need that usb wifi dongle, they already have wifi 6 inbuilt.

  • @battano
    @battano 2 месяца назад

    HEADS UP! Nice review Albert. Biggest hiccup Ive seen watching various DIY builds on the open source side is that people should really use a RX control link NOT in the 2.4ghz spectrum. So CRSF and 900mhz ELRS work with no issues. However much like with the start of HDZero and other 5.8ghz video systems having your RX control link on 2.4ghz can cause interference with both control and video link.

    • @vanlifefpv6340
      @vanlifefpv6340 2 месяца назад +3

      Wow, so DJI and Walksnail on 5.8ghz can cause interference with ELRS on 2.4ghz? That's news to me... Why have I not heard of this before?

    • @frankcastillo8869
      @frankcastillo8869 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vanlifefpv6340 This is totaly BS, don't listen to this guy.

  • @MatCron
    @MatCron 2 месяца назад

    Very alpha-beta, let's hope it gets better,

    • @AlbertKimTV
      @AlbertKimTV  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, it has potential but it's not quite ready for the masses yet.

  • @GR8SCOTT
    @GR8SCOTT 2 месяца назад

    Only 2 standoffs is a big mistake! The reverse wired cable is a problem too. Thanks for reviewing this new tech! Please enter me for the scrubber.

    • @nic.h
      @nic.h 2 месяца назад

      Think MarioFPV also had the wrong cable provided and said it should be fixed in later versions.