Great video. I saw this, bought the bits and pieces and went carp fishing for my first time. Made two rigs, had two takes and two caught. Everything worked and was especially pleased that the knots were good too. I don't even have a carp rod, had to use a match rod with great patience! Great video, well presented and all great advice.
Just watched this as I am off to a tricky French water shortly and looking for a rig to fish with wafters. I thought the tweaks you have made are superb. I was reading through the comments section....I have to say you really must need patience when replying to some of the carp trolls that seem to just want to pick holes in everything. Great work Simon.....
ive been doing the same as you with my german for a few years, putty further back, but i use shrink tube on the hook with 1cm bare braid for the movement, made a couple of rigs up for a friend and his catch rate went up, and he laughed when he 1st saw how i make them , we all have our little quirks :P
I use a fox kwik change pop-up weight instead of putty. Positioned an inch behind the hook. No break in the hook link but the hook bead opposite the hook point like you did. Works perfectly for me.
@@SimonDewCarpFishing soft coated hook-links are not that stiff that a carp is not able to pick the bait up in my opinion. The break will help it twist and turn in the carps mouth but it will also make it easier for the carp to spit the whole thing out. Is it because of or despite of you caught the carp? That’s always the question which nobody can answer. I fished with thick amnesia in the past and even that produced lots of carp for me. So many variables in fishing. From which direction does the carp approach the hook bait, Is your hook link straight or not for instance. Coming from the wrong direction it might not be able to pick it up because the hook link is straightened out. Coming from the right direction the carp might hook itself but only if the hook link pulls tight against the lead before the carp can spit it out because it detected something it didn’t like. A carp is a carp but not all carp do feed in the same way. That’s why some get caught very often and some very rare. If you had the opportunity to pre bait and the carp have eaten plenty of your bait without getting hooked it will probably pick your hook bait up with much more confidence than when it has never eaten it before. Nearly any rig will catch in that situation I guess. I really do like your videos especially the one comparing pop-up rigs. It showed that it doesn’t matter what rig you use as long as it is in the right spot it will catch you carp. It’s all about confidence in my opinion. Far to long this answer 😂. Keep on testing and sharing the results mate👍.
@@TheRolf88 It's all I use all my fish in the UK and Europe has come from this rig,so much confidence in it, and if I'm on the fish it hasn't failed me yet.
I had never heard of a German rig till this video appeared on my RUclips homepage. Thing is, I watched you making your version and all the way through I kept thinking “he’s making my version of the Ronnie rig for wafters minus the quick release swivel!”. You then mention the turbo German rig, so I googled it and it’s my version of the Ronnie rig for wafters! I’ve been using this for ages now, the Ronnie is without doubt the best rig for hook placement and a stiff rig for me is essential if you’re not using PVA bags to kick your link away from the weight & leader. Only difference is I don’t use coated braid, I use the Korda Boom stiff link, I find a florocarbon is less visible and crimp it rather than tie it as the crimp hook end is perfect for holding putty in place and stops it sliding down the hook length like it can do on braid when it gets wet.
Stiff fluoro booms are all well and good if the lake bad is flat with no snags at all but as soon as there’s even a broken twig you run the risk of having a poorly presented rig and you’re not fishing. Keep it simple with a KD - gets um every time 😉
@@SPS_survivor I know what you mean, one day ticket I fish has a ton of trees overhanging about 75% of the lake and the lake bed is a mess of branches so my stiff Ronnie just doesn't work, although getting wrapped up in those branches by fish late at night/early morning is more of a problem for me there, not being able to see the snags until you're pulled in them keeps my visits to a minimum.
Fantastic tweak Simon , Thanks for taking the time to make/share the video for us. The Braid scissors look much sharper than the two " branded " pairs I have , what make are they fella ?? Steve M
Hi Simon Iv been using this type of rig for a long time and thought I should be catching more. I now strip the coating off the hook link and tie the knot less knot on the hook and leave approx 5mm of soft braid from the eye of the hook. I wanted to keep the semi stiff hook link so I simply apply 1.0mm dia silicone over the eye and cover the soft section. This allows full rotation of the hook. It’s now the only rig I use for gravel, silt with bottom baits or wafters. My catch rate has gone up tenfold. 👍Dan
@@theharris7207 Hi pal, no just leave 5mm soft section from the eye and slide silicone over this, no shrink tube as this would stop the hook spinning or turning. The hook turns the same as Simon demonstrated but it maintains a semi stiff or stiff hook link depending on what hook link you use.
@@theharris7207 I’ve been using this rig with 12/15mm mainline fruity squid dumbbell wafters or boiles straight out the bag with chops and freebies, just remember to ensure the silicone is the same length as the soft braid so the hook has full rotation and movement, if you need any more help let me know, good luck let me know how it goes
Hi Simon I've just made 1 of these rigs and agree the hook turns anyway. I've been having alot of success with the spinner rig in recent weeks . I've got some nice wafters to try this rig on Friday..
@@SimonDewCarpFishing if you believe that I think you are at the stage of over thinking can be an anglers worst nightmare stick to what you know we all have our own variation but don't get sucked in I been on the bank nearly 30 years I've seen it all
Hey Simon, I use the hook swivel and bead then just tie it as a combi rig, supple braid to something stiffer or do it with a coated braid. Best of both worlds, if you’re breaking the coating as far as I’m concerned it ain’t German 😂 I believe for the issue you’re addressing in this video a standard combi/blowback slip D etc will outperform the German mechanically. Can’t speak for catch rates hook holds etc
Nice one si pal I use the German rig. I usually use them with a snowman presentation and the hook holds are savage. Unfortunately they do cause some mouth damage from time to time. I tried to fish the rig with single bottom baits but lost 3 and the ones I did land weren't hooked quiet as well as the snowman presentation. I am gonna try the adjustments you've shown using a bottom bait see how I get on. Thanks Simon great vid as usual
Hi Guys in true Simon Dew style I have pinched a well established rig made a few adjustments which I like to call improvements and have come up with a much superior rig than the original! What is it I hear you cry...well I have taken the bollox rig and placed it in a pva bag and in honour of Simon I am calling it the Scrotum Rig, Aka " my wrinkled retainer!!!
A wafter of that size why not use a bait screw less fuss. The rig was always used with soft coated braid to make it more cumbersome for the larger carp to deal with, also the putty was strategic in its placement to create the flip and turn effect. The late great Ian macmillan showed this to great effect. The idea with the break in the stiffer material is a nice idea but the putty could be closer.. top angling si
parrot rig for bottom or wafter baits multi for pop ups 2 rigs simple effective easy stop complicating it even a old school knotless knot set up is as deadly
I love the multi rig too the only thing I find is the upright section can slip or loose shape on big casts etc which is why I prefer a shrink tube upright section like the withy pool rig
The turbo German should turn proper. It’s basically a bottom or wafter ronnie 😂😂 I used a ronnie for first time the other day and received a wonderful 7 aborteds. Crackin rig 🤔
Total altering the mechanics of the rig. The hook been prone in the way in? I'm not sure many fish are hooked on the way in. Also reducing blow back effect.
The idea is the hook needs to be hanging down so it's in the right position when it enters the carps mouth therefore more likely to catch hold in the bottom lip. The bait can still be blown back to exactly the same position as the original rig
@@SimonDewCarpFishing It doesn't matter how the hook enters the fishes mouth it won't hook it on the way in. The bait been set so low on the shank it negates the blowback effect
Having a semi buoyant bait near the bend of the hook means it's a lot harder for the hook to turn down and hook the bottom lip. I'm not saying it doesn't work but it's all about percentages. If you can have the hook pointing down to start with then it's already in the right position when it's blown out. The blowback effect relies on the bait being blown back to the eye which it can with my version of the rig 🤷🏻♂️
What an absolute load of rubbish! - the rig you've tied is not a German rig. Carp do not pick-up the bait as you do in your fingers - watch a carp feeding and how the German rig works, I'm sure you'll scrap your version in favour of the original version you showed. I've caught thousands of carp to 63lb on the original German and every hook hold has been perfect with no missed or aborted takes.
You're entitled to your opinion and as stated in the video I know the German rig works but in my opinion this version is better. You say no missed takes well you wouldn't know that unless watching the carp feeding underwater. Even the best rig in the world will have missed takes occasionally. Carp don't always move the lead and register on the alarm when they pick up a bait. I'm just trying to show you can tweak rigs to make them more effective and increase the percentages in your favour. For you to say it's absolutely rubbish is a little over the top 🤷🏻♂️
Complete nonsense , if this was the case the fluro d rig wouldn’t work …. Bro science with rigs … No stuff rig would work if you applied the same thinking 🤔
I'm not say the rig doesn't work I know it does but it's all about percentages, if you add an element of flexibility then the carp can get it in their mouths easier and from any angle. A stiff rig works only if the carp picks the bait up from a certain direction I'd rather have a chance from any direction 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing I don’t agree , and let’s face it we don’t know when we land a fish what direction the fish has picked the bait up from do we , some stiff rigs are flexible hinge stiff rig for instance, an spin as there picked up , You rig in question as all rigs hook on the way out not the way in !, by the nature of how a hook works IMO
4 doubles yesterday and today biggest 19lb 14 oz using this rig with your adjustments Simon. All nailed in the bottom lip!! Thanks.
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That's great to hear mate nice work!
Great video. I saw this, bought the bits and pieces and went carp fishing for my first time. Made two rigs, had two takes and two caught. Everything worked and was especially pleased that the knots were good too. I don't even have a carp rod, had to use a match rod with great patience! Great video, well presented and all great advice.
Awesome mate keep up the good work 👌
learning lots and i am now changing all my rigs and tweaking them up thanks to you plus mostly i tend to use heli rigs
Just watched this as I am off to a tricky French water shortly and looking for a rig to fish with wafters. I thought the tweaks you have made are superb. I was reading through the comments section....I have to say you really must need patience when replying to some of the carp trolls that seem to just want to pick holes in everything. Great work Simon.....
Thanks mate yes it does test my patience sometimes! Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess
Most chilled carper on RUclips and always produces great videos.👍.For that mate thank you.
Cheers fella kind words 👌👍
I think the German rig is one of the best rigs out there, yours is spot on
Cheers fella I'll definitely be trying it more now 👌
Make it a turbo german rig with a quick change swivel through the eye of the hook, works a treat 😉
I just worry the extra metal and weight will be detected by the fish. I'll give it a try though 👌
Trying the turbo German today 💪
You don't strip the coating back on a German rig
Simon use a trimmed 12mm pop up to counterbalance the extra weight of the ring swivel
@@SimonDewCarpFishing Obviously what you do obviously works mate 👍
Some great points you showed there Simon i will give it a try when next on the bank 🎣👍👍
Good man hope it works for you 👌
Another decent vlog, always exploring new ideas as usual bud. I’ll be giving this a go Monday - Friday 👍🏻tight lines
Cheers fella hope it helps you catch a few let us know how it goes 👌
Be using this version for my upstream rod barbel fishing for the winter on a low stocked river
Sounds good mate let me know how you get on 👌
Why anyone would thumb down is beyond me.
Cheers fella can't please everyone but one day I might make a vid that everyone likes 😅
ive been doing the same as you with my german for a few years, putty further back, but i use shrink tube on the hook with 1cm bare braid for the movement, made a couple of rigs up for a friend and his catch rate went up, and he laughed when he 1st saw how i make them , we all have our little quirks :P
It's down to confidence I guess find what works for you and stick with it 😉👌
I use a fox kwik change pop-up weight instead of putty. Positioned an inch behind the hook. No break in the hook link but the hook bead opposite the hook point like you did. Works perfectly for me.
Sounds good mate I just worry they won't be able to pick it up due to the lack of flexibility 👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing soft coated hook-links are not that stiff that a carp is not able to pick the bait up in my opinion. The break will help it twist and turn in the carps mouth but it will also make it easier for the carp to spit the whole thing out. Is it because of or despite of you caught the carp? That’s always the question which nobody can answer. I fished with thick amnesia in the past and even that produced lots of carp for me. So many variables in fishing. From which direction does the carp approach the hook bait, Is your hook link straight or not for instance. Coming from the wrong direction it might not be able to pick it up because the hook link is straightened out. Coming from the right direction the carp might hook itself but only if the hook link pulls tight against the lead before the carp can spit it out because it detected something it didn’t like. A carp is a carp but not all carp do feed in the same way. That’s why some get caught very often and some very rare. If you had the opportunity to pre bait and the carp have eaten plenty of your bait without getting hooked it will probably pick your hook bait up with much more confidence than when it has never eaten it before. Nearly any rig will catch in that situation I guess.
I really do like your videos especially the one comparing pop-up rigs. It showed that it doesn’t matter what rig you use as long as it is in the right spot it will catch you carp. It’s all about confidence in my opinion. Far to long this answer 😂.
Keep on testing and sharing the results mate👍.
Turbo German is the way forward but with a covert dark mugga curve shank never fails to hook and still not lost a fish in 6 months of using it 👍
I've not tried the turbo version yet but I'll give it a go 👌
Switched to it about 4 years ago using a stiff boom and spinner swivel, and all I use now,never fails.
@@jason88580 this will only work if the fish approaches the bait from the front side, not from the rear/led side.
@@TheRolf88 It's all I use all my fish in the UK and Europe has come from this rig,so much confidence in it, and if I'm on the fish it hasn't failed me yet.
I had never heard of a German rig till this video appeared on my RUclips homepage. Thing is, I watched you making your version and all the way through I kept thinking “he’s making my version of the Ronnie rig for wafters minus the quick release swivel!”. You then mention the turbo German rig, so I googled it and it’s my version of the Ronnie rig for wafters! I’ve been using this for ages now, the Ronnie is without doubt the best rig for hook placement and a stiff rig for me is essential if you’re not using PVA bags to kick your link away from the weight & leader. Only difference is I don’t use coated braid, I use the Korda Boom stiff link, I find a florocarbon is less visible and crimp it rather than tie it as the crimp hook end is perfect for holding putty in place and stops it sliding down the hook length like it can do on braid when it gets wet.
Stiff fluoro booms are all well and good if the lake bad is flat with no snags at all but as soon as there’s even a broken twig you run the risk of having a poorly presented rig and you’re not fishing. Keep it simple with a KD - gets um every time 😉
@@SPS_survivor I know what you mean, one day ticket I fish has a ton of trees overhanging about 75% of the lake and the lake bed is a mess of branches so my stiff Ronnie just doesn't work, although getting wrapped up in those branches by fish late at night/early morning is more of a problem for me there, not being able to see the snags until you're pulled in them keeps my visits to a minimum.
Fantastic tweak Simon , Thanks for taking the time to make/share the video for us.
The Braid scissors look much sharper than the two " branded " pairs I have , what make are they fella ??
Steve M
Thank you Simon.
Welcome mate hope it helps 👌
Hi Simon
Iv been using this type of rig for a long time and thought I should be catching more. I now strip the coating off the hook link and tie the knot less knot on the hook and leave approx 5mm of soft braid from the eye of the hook. I wanted to keep the semi stiff hook link so I simply apply 1.0mm dia silicone over the eye and cover the soft section. This allows full rotation of the hook. It’s now the only rig I use for gravel, silt with bottom baits or wafters. My catch rate has gone up tenfold. 👍Dan
So you heat shrink wrap the stripped braid?
Sounds spot on mate 👌
@@theharris7207 Hi pal, no just leave 5mm soft section from the eye and slide silicone over this, no shrink tube as this would stop the hook spinning or turning. The hook turns the same as Simon demonstrated but it maintains a semi stiff or stiff hook link depending on what hook link you use.
@@dannywilson9022 I'll give it a go
@@theharris7207 I’ve been using this rig with 12/15mm mainline fruity squid dumbbell wafters or boiles straight out the bag with chops and freebies, just remember to ensure the silicone is the same length as the soft braid so the hook has full rotation and movement, if you need any more help let me know, good luck let me know how it goes
Hi Simon I've just made 1 of these rigs and agree the hook turns anyway. I've been having alot of success with the spinner rig in recent weeks . I've got some nice wafters to try this rig on Friday..
Best of luck mate 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing well mate the rig did work. 👌 Il be making some more this week.
I'll be trying this tomorrow
Let us know how you get on 👌😉
Great video Simon.
Thanks mate really appreciate it
Ffs keep it simple always worked for me I've used the same rig method as simon crow for donkey's some water's I may use the stiff hinge
This rig is about as simple as it gets mate 🤷🏻♂️
@@SimonDewCarpFishing if you believe that I think you are at the stage of over thinking can be an anglers worst nightmare stick to what you know we all have our own variation but don't get sucked in I been on the bank nearly 30 years I've seen it all
Great vlog keep them coming
Cheers mate there's another video coming next week 👌😉
Cheers Simon very interesting 👍
Welcome mate 👌
Well thought out Simon... Looks a real sticky rig for a carp to try to evade once picked up 👍
Cheers fella much appreciated yeah I think it's going to be a winner. I've already had a few fish with it 👌😉
Spot on buddy 👍👍👍
Cheers fella 👌
Hey Simon, I use the hook swivel and bead then just tie it as a combi rig, supple braid to something stiffer or do it with a coated braid. Best of both worlds, if you’re breaking the coating as far as I’m concerned it ain’t German 😂 I believe for the issue you’re addressing in this video a standard combi/blowback slip D etc will outperform the German mechanically. Can’t speak for catch rates hook holds etc
I'll try it that way mate 👌
I use very similar just instead of the hook bead i use a d on the hook more separation and the curve hook just hangs nice
That sounds mega mate 😉
Is it more prone to tangles on the cast .? Or does it cast OK with the break in the braid coating? Cheers
We’re do you get your scissors from mate also great video always informative 😊
These are the taska ceramic scissors not sure they're still available but search ceramic scissors and I'm sure you'll find similar 👌
Great tip Simon! Shame about the woodpecker at the beginning 😆👌👍
😅I know mate always noisy round that lake
Nice one si pal I use the German rig. I usually use them with a snowman presentation and the hook holds are savage. Unfortunately they do cause some mouth damage from time to time. I tried to fish the rig with single bottom baits but lost 3 and the ones I did land weren't hooked quiet as well as the snowman presentation. I am gonna try the adjustments you've shown using a bottom bait see how I get on. Thanks Simon great vid as usual
Thanks for your comment mate I hope the rig tied in this way makes all the difference. Let us know how you get on 👌
Hi Guys in true Simon Dew style I have pinched a well established rig made a few adjustments which I like to call improvements and have come up with a much superior rig than the original! What is it I hear you cry...well I have taken the bollox rig and placed it in a pva bag and in honour of Simon I am calling it the Scrotum Rig, Aka " my wrinkled retainer!!!
Haha nice one fella 😂
Great video
Thanks mate much appreciated. Hope it helps you catch a few 👌👍
@@SimonDewCarpFishing got any vids on fishing in silt struggling with a certain venue, deep silt mate
Thanks makes perfect sense. Interested in your thoughts on a stiff fluorocarbon d rig. It would probably behave the same as the first rig?
Cheers fella much appreciated. Yes I imagine a similar rig mechanics with fluorocarbon. They do work of course but I think there are better options 👌
I use the German for popups and wafters
I've not tried it for pop ups but it will definitely work this way with a break in the coating 👌😉
A wafter of that size why not use a bait screw less fuss. The rig was always used with soft coated braid to make it more cumbersome for the larger carp to deal with, also the putty was strategic in its placement to create the flip and turn effect. The late great Ian macmillan showed this to great effect. The idea with the break in the stiffer material is a nice idea but the putty could be closer.. top angling si
I guess all variations of this rig will work but results with it fishing this way have been really good so far 👌
parrot rig for bottom or wafter baits multi for pop ups 2 rigs simple effective easy stop complicating it even a old school knotless knot set up is as deadly
I love the multi rig too the only thing I find is the upright section can slip or loose shape on big casts etc which is why I prefer a shrink tube upright section like the withy pool rig
Have you tried it with the coating stripped off for the knotless knot and a little bit of shrink tubing for a kicker ?
Cheers mate.
Hi mate yes I have I've actually done a video on this I think it's called the rig that caught a 60
Just use a ronnie rig with a wafter doesn't matter what way the fish comes in
Turbo German or something isn't it?
Yea something like that but it works a treat
Kind of but same problem hook can spin on swivel everything else still stiff
Simon my syndicate has low weed with 6-8" of silt. Could you use the german rig on a helicopter lead set up?
Yes you can mate although if its weedy a pop up might be better 👍
The turbo German should turn proper. It’s basically a bottom or wafter ronnie 😂😂 I used a ronnie for first time the other day and received a wonderful 7 aborteds. Crackin rig 🤔
I just don't get the appeal if the Ronnie but I still experiment to see if I can improve it 😉
Total altering the mechanics of the rig.
The hook been prone in the way in? I'm not sure many fish are hooked on the way in.
Also reducing blow back effect.
The idea is the hook needs to be hanging down so it's in the right position when it enters the carps mouth therefore more likely to catch hold in the bottom lip. The bait can still be blown back to exactly the same position as the original rig
@@SimonDewCarpFishing
It doesn't matter how the hook enters the fishes mouth it won't hook it on the way in.
The bait been set so low on the shank it negates the blowback effect
Having a semi buoyant bait near the bend of the hook means it's a lot harder for the hook to turn down and hook the bottom lip. I'm not saying it doesn't work but it's all about percentages. If you can have the hook pointing down to start with then it's already in the right position when it's blown out. The blowback effect relies on the bait being blown back to the eye which it can with my version of the rig 🤷🏻♂️
Now dob a tiny bit of putty on the bend........
Will try it mate 👌
What an absolute load of rubbish! - the rig you've tied is not a German rig. Carp do not pick-up the bait as you do in your fingers - watch a carp feeding and how the German rig works, I'm sure you'll scrap your version in favour of the original version you showed. I've caught thousands of carp to 63lb on the original German and every hook hold has been perfect with no missed or aborted takes.
You're entitled to your opinion and as stated in the video I know the German rig works but in my opinion this version is better. You say no missed takes well you wouldn't know that unless watching the carp feeding underwater. Even the best rig in the world will have missed takes occasionally. Carp don't always move the lead and register on the alarm when they pick up a bait. I'm just trying to show you can tweak rigs to make them more effective and increase the percentages in your favour. For you to say it's absolutely rubbish is a little over the top 🤷🏻♂️
Complete nonsense , if this was the case the fluro d rig wouldn’t work ….
Bro science with rigs …
No stuff rig would work if you applied the same thinking 🤔
I'm not say the rig doesn't work I know it does but it's all about percentages, if you add an element of flexibility then the carp can get it in their mouths easier and from any angle. A stiff rig works only if the carp picks the bait up from a certain direction I'd rather have a chance from any direction 👌
@@SimonDewCarpFishing I don’t agree , and let’s face it we don’t know when we land a fish what direction the fish has picked the bait up from do we , some stiff rigs are flexible hinge stiff rig for instance, an spin as there picked up ,
You rig in question as all rigs hook on the way out not the way in !, by the nature of how a hook works IMO