COKE LA ROCK, A DJ WITH KOOL HERC.. INSPIRED BY THE LAST POETS... "I INTRODUCED HERC TO THE STREETS"
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- (FULL DISCUSSION) Coke La Rock ...the Original "La Rock"... "Bronx Born" performed at.. Taft High School...Dodge High School .....Burnside ave/Jerome ave ... The Twilight Zone... The Executive Playhouse.. Mt. Eden... The Hevelow ...Coke La Rock and Kool Herc took HIPHOP to another level.. Coke La Rock and Kool Herc REVOLUTIONIZED HIPHOP because (before Coke and Herc) teenagers had to wait for the "breakbeat" part of the song to do their special dance moves.. Kool Herc saw that, then began to put the "breakbeat" together with other breakbeats... that "merry go round" technique REVOLUTIONIZED Breakdance!! allowing the teens more time to do their special dance moves during the "breakbeat"... dropping down dancing on the floor etc... Coke La Rock was on the microphone while the B.Boys danced...Coke La Rock was also a DJ at many of the parties.. Also Coke La Rock and Kool Herc REVOLUTIONIZED nightclubs making a way for the teenagers to come in the nightclubs wearing sneakers etc
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All due respect to the campaign but I don't get how it's a problem to discuss La Rock's weed selling history but its cool to talk at length about the gang shit?? "Gang shit" is cool for kids?? 🤔
Mista KFresh... we never said discussing weed is a problem... We discussed weed in the past and we may discuss it again...but this channel wants to promote SOBER... more of us being sober... we feel our people are amazingly great!! and we feel our main obstacle (as a group of people) in America ..has been ..and still is.. drugs and alcohol !!.. YOU SAID..."GANG SHIT" IS COOL FOR KIDS?? 🤔... no!! .. but however UNIFIED YOUNG people can do great and powerful things.... IMAGINE if more of our young people was completely sober.. those "gangs" as you call them ... probably would transform themselves into powerful organizations!!... think about it.. most "gangs" as you call them... are young INTOXICATED PEOPLE!! ...Show me a "gang" with members thats completely sober... you probably won't find one.. so really.. drugs and alcohol is our issue
@@TheCulture..Started1971 I hear you brother 👊🏿👊🏿
@@TheCulture..Started1971 In ur opinion, Where did Hip hop fashion come from, NYC or somewhere else?
@Michael smith... hiphop fashion came from the young bronx teenagers who was buying clothes mainly from Harlem
@@TheCulture..Started1971 I challenge that respectfully, u been woefully misinformed My bro.
I'm a second generation Haitian immigrant, and Hip Hop has been a staple of my childhood being raised in Miami. Much love and RESPECT to the Foundational Black American fam for creating Hip Hop and all the rich cultural traditions that preceded it (Jazz, Funk, Disco, Rock, R&B, and Blues). We all one people, but we still need to acknowledge the work done by each part of the black family, and FBAs are the cultural progenitors and direct creators of Hip Hop.
No tf we are nit all one people you are Caribbean we are Black Africans are Africans we are delineating island boi
@@Mia-840 We ARE one people. Where do you think Foundational Black Americans, Haitians, Jamaicans, Afro-Brazilians, and every other group of the African diaspora came from? They came from Africa. The main difference between a Haitian and a Black-American is where a slave-ship landed. We are all ultimately from the same set of African peoples, but we have all derived our own cultures, and Foundational Black American people/culture made Hip Hop. It's called giving respect.
Respect, they try to silence the OGs in favor for imposters from the 80s & 90s. These are the only dudes I wanna hear from that created the foundation of Hip Hop. Coke La Rock was right there with Kool Herc.
What impostors?
South Bronx is the birthplace of Hip-Hop, it comes to no surprise that the intermingling of Puerto Rican and West Indies along with Black styles are the main contributors to the basic Hip-Hop essence.Rap music originated on the island of Jamaica in the early 1960's and not in black ghettos of the United States. In the early 60's, when Jamaican sound-system operators had only a single turntable, they would employ the services of a slick-talking, rhyme-every-time person on the microphoneOften, when people here Hip-Hop they associate it with only African-Americans. However, Hip-Hop is actually the combination of West Indian, Puerto Rican, Blacks of New York. Hip-Hop has always been open to a diverse audience, and thus is not limited to one specific group. DJing started in Jamaica, where the artist would mix and scratch music with repetitive phrases mixed it. In Jamaica, and in many area of the West Indies, music is used as important as politics. Music was used to express the voice of the citizens. Political parties themselves used the musics of DJs to represent their positions. As people from the West Indies moved into New York and specifically the Bronx, they began to incorporate their values of music as a form as expression. When the West Indians began to live with the Puerto Ricans and African Americans of the South Bronx, their art of music mixed in with the rapping and rhyming of the people living there. Hip-Hop began to include in general, Rapping, DJing, Graffiti and Break Dancing. DJ Kool Herc and other DJ from the West Indies, gaining popularity from their style of music, began to encourage the youth to get involved in the art of Hip-Hop. Soon some gangs began to focus their concentration on Hip-Hop rather than using violence to express their anger with the environment they were in. Afrika Bambaataa would find the Universal Zulu Movement, which was a gang that focused on Hip-Hop. What all the people involved in Hip-Hop do have in common is how the merge the struggles of every day life, and their environment into their various forms of art in a way that people facing similar difficulties can also relate. Hip-Hop then turns into a voice of all those New Yorkers, and even beyond, who are constantly trying to improve their lives in a difficult environment.Kool Herc, Grandmaster Flash and Bambaataa are the Holy Trinity of hip-hop. Bambaataa's role was carrying the gospel of hip-hop first downtown to white audiences, then to the rest of the world."
Coke La Rock is known for being the first rapper to ever spit rhymes after teaming up with DJ Kool Herc in 1973 and both are recognized as the original founding fathers of Hip Hop. Rap music was originally underground.The first major hip-hop deejay was DJ Kool Herc (Clive Campbell), an 18-year-old immigrant who introduced the huge sound systems of his native Jamaica to inner-city parties.The location of that birthplace was 1520 Sedgwick Avenue, and the man who presided over that historic party was the birthday girl's brother, Clive Campbell-better known to history as DJ Kool Herc, founding father of hip hop.Afrika Bambaataa is largely considered the Godfather of Hip-Hop. DJ Kool Herc is a forefather of hip-hop.DJ Kool Herc is the father of the breakbeat, the deejay practice of isolating and repeating "breaks," the most danceable portions of songs; breakbeats make up the foundation of modern hip-hop.Mar 30, 2005DJ Kool Herc developed the style that was the blueprint for hip hop music. Herc used the record to focus on a short, heavily percussive part in it: the "break". Since this part of the record was the one the dancers liked best, Herc isolated the break and prolonged it by changing between two record players.A Jamaican native who moved to New York City's Bronx borough at the age of 12, Kool Herc is widely credited as the originator of Hip Hop.
@@aferrer74 You wrote complete nonsense. Every piece of Hip hop already existed in Black American cultures. Extending breaks were already done by DJs like Pete Jones. The sound system was copied from here. Older Jamaicans who worked the fields in Florida as seasonal workers already said this. Let the old lies and myths go and get caught up on what really happened.
@@aferrer74 all that is bs...here's the truth ruclips.net/video/PcvWxe42QTM/видео.html
@@aferrer74 That's a bunch of Oxtail, Ackee, Jerk Chicken and Curry Goat Dreams of delusions. Show me the Jamaican or Caribbean in the early 1960's and 1970's whose music influence hip hop?
Michael Wayne puttin in that work for the black American culture.
Not even halfway through this, but I just wanted to comment and shout out all of the FBA men and women of NYC that contributed to our culture. They’ve literally tried to erase y’all out of history. It’s over for that. This man is deserving of so much MORE. It’s a shame how even the Hip Hop “icons” of NYC from the 80s and 90s with major wealth and influence have turned a blind eye to this man and others. I’m really appreciative for this information.
Nina513 Thank you for your comment
@@TheCulture..Started1971 You’re welcome. Continue the great work.
@TheCulture..Since1971 appreciate you bro
R.I.P Kay Slay he showed the OGs love
Coke LaRock deserves the world for his contribution to hip hop.
Legend! COKE LA ROCK BLACK/AFRICAN AMERICAN✊🏿✊🏿💪🏿💪🏿💯💯 OUR CULTURE IS OUR CULTURE!!!
Black culture is black culture.
Just like white culture is white culture. Whites don't let themselves be divided unless it's war time.
Exactly!!!
Who partnered Kool Herc..black/African Jamaican..our culture is our culture.
@@ryrilo5078 He had it right the first time. Hip Hop is FBA culture, Point blank period 💯
@@ryrilo5078 ya got reggae maybe be content
Well that closes the debate and argument. It's now very crystal clear that the Jamaican toasting theory was all nonsense and that Hip Hop was a wholly African-American creation from the start. I mean I knew all of this anyway, but for those who didn't know this is a conclusive and decisive video, and also greatly informative.
Thee End
Did u watch the video? coke la rock verified almost the entire story that's been told about herc. Definitely doesn't invalidate Herc and he didn't conclude that anyone else was doin this before him and Herc. It's well known that afro Americans were Hercs primary audience that's why he used funk music instead of playing reggae like DJs in the UK...but this doesn't invalidate Hercs claim or story. U also have to remember that West Indian migration had just started and most of them weren't going to the Bronx yet so Herc didn't have an audience that would understand reggae music. And the few West indians in the area at the time did what most immigrants do they assimilated into their surroundings
Even Herc admitted he had assimilated somewhat by the time he started doing parties
@@sioul8485 let it go vulture
@@sioul8485 I'm not invalidating Herc. I'm simply pointing out that this video proves the claims of Jamaican toasting as one of hip hop's main origin is false and inaccurate as La Rock demonstrates.
These are the convos we need to piece together the accurate history.
This man need to do a world tour. This is how our history is stolen from us.
He tours all the time bro…..that’s family right there I’m with him everyday and 2 hear these stories is amazing
Damn I would pay to hear his story like a Concert if he ever came to the Bay Area CA.... I can imagine a lot of Colorism at that time with the light skin and dark skin narratives. I listened to a New York PR guy talkin bout how he was ready to slice n***** up in a club in New York. ( Ill edit once I locate his name). They was black and down when they came in the 50's and now they seem to have assimilated into the system of white supremacy. "Embrace the culture deny the ancestry" 🤔🤨👊🏽
I dig how he stand firm on not talking down on any man that's definitely a quilty many men are missing today
ADOCS Have Class❤
Yeah he gave it up and just kept it real no additives. That's probably why he's overlooked because alot of these other dudes make grandiose statements and get caught in lies.
The first MC coke la rock says No PR or Jamaicans in the early days and Herc was influenced by the foundation black Americans. Bronxdale created Hip Hop.. case closed! Thanks for sharing
Absolutely 👏🏾‼️
What is Trixie
I’m confused, on “the freshest Kids” doc, herc says that Jamaicans were the first he heard mixing records bumping the loudest music on speakers. That doesn’t influence him and the culture?
Bruh Herc Jamaican but he was running in our circles. Notice he didn't even know Herc was Jamaican until a year after Knowing him. Every body else he named was FBA. Herc got ready for the battle by getting that Bootsie/Parliament energy. Notice Dj Dee and his Man's new more than Coke about the what and when Herc got his Equipment.
@@williamdrayton7352 In that interview Trixie proudly stated he was FBA from the Carolinas. He just looks Puerto Rican.
Notice how the old school East Coast brothers like Coke La Rock, still have that old southern sound about themselves. They don’t sound like the new school of New Yorkers at all. It’s clear where roots of Hip Hop come from and that is the SOUTH!!✅🤌🏾👩🏽⚖️
True
Thanks for this video! Outstanding work. As I stated on many of your videos of Kool Herc.
As I spent all of the 70s in Bronxdale
I said I didn’t recall Kool Herc playing at Cedar Park or any park in the early 70s when I was a kid. Not saying he didn’t but to compare to other DJ rocking park jams.
Herc was non existence, like I said in other videos your posted. I didn’t really hear of Kool Herc until 75ish.
I took a lot of BS on my statements and I am happy that it was finally cleared up.
Doesn’t really matter, those guys played in the parks before him but Herc wrote the the script for the creation of rap music as we know it
@@enosger Kool Herc was not a rapper he was a DJ (Disc Jockey). He did not create music or beats or rap. He played other existing music or beats that was created by funk musicians. If I am wrong, please tell me where I can found rap or beats or music that DJ Kool Herc created. I want to hear it.
@@enosger herc aint write a blood clot thing foh
@@enosger Herc did not write any raps, he was only a DJ that mixed records, he was not a rapper in way shape or form. Coke La Rock was the one rapping, doing what was already being done in the African-American community. La Rock just made it sound cool when doing it Hip Hop style while acting as MC in Herc's parties.
@@enosger no he didn't.
the lie died hard today. its good to hear the facts finally getting told the way it actually went. the whole world needs to hear it all come out from the cats that was actually there. its way too many ppl that wasnt there- not knowing- putting B$ in the game. deceiving the masses
Papa didn't cuss
He didn't raise a whole lotta fuss
But when we did wrong
Papa beat the hell out of us - James Brown, Godfather of Soul, Soul Brother #1, King of Hip Hop
When I was a kid, I remember having cassettes with just scratching and mixing and no rapping. We used to do the Freak Dance in the late 70s; that one I remember.
James Brown is considered the Godfather of Hip Hop, not Soul. Which was because Kool Herc would use his samples at his block parties that began Hip Hop.
@@wulaeofthetengu8336 James Brown is the Godfather of Soul
@@wulaeofthetengu8336How Kool herc Jamaican self knew James Brown music before us?.😑 We showed him how to do this here
Coke is telling his Truth ! I grew up around Coke, Herc Butch, Trixy aka Larry Myers. This is my era. 1969-70 went to 82 in the 6 grade. Mark was Coke's best friend.
How many DJs you met or knew during this time?
Met the man last year. Cool azz brother. Salute to the original MC.
One love from South Carolina. Hip Hop definitely a part of my life lessons.
You can tell Coke is serious n passionate about his place in Hip-Hop history I love it he gives you tha real you wish yo was there to see it!
I believe the debate is now over!
Much respect to my brother the legendary Coke LA Rock!! 👑✊🏾🔎💎👍🏾💯
20 minutes in ….. thank you for this history but more importantly, HIS story.
OG Coke La Rock..thank you for your contribution, salute!
My guy deserves so much more praise. It's honestly disrespectful he doesn't.
Great interview and great shows as always! Keep up the good work!
Now we need to get the East (Soundview) and West Bronx brothers together for a nice discussion…
Thanks to all involved for documenting this history👍
I've always been Blues, Soul and R&B oriented, never truly got into Hip Hop and Rap but, I'm learning.
I have nothing against coke la rock he should receive all the credit he deserves for the record!
Best interview about the origin I've ever seen. Kudos bro.
Man, much respect to Coke La Rock! 👑👑👑👑👑👑
Excellent interview! Hip-Hop is #Freedmen music!
The spirit of Michael Wayne lives on!!!
Super DOPE interview!!! Salutes to the living Legend...
Much better interview than the one on Vladtv. You were asking all the right questions!
Why are you the ONLY one who is doing this content? Amazing
There will be others. Coming soon. Some of the OG's don't remember everything accurately. Some of us who are younger and was there can add to the facts that are left out so that the people who are interested can get a better picture of how it was.
Because it’s mostly lies
Because most Hip Hop publications and forums are foreign ran/owned and they don’t want to promote the truth about FBAs being the creators of ALL American music genres. That’s why men like this are never revered, he knows too much.
Thanks Michael Wayne TV for documenting “The Culture”!
Thanks so much for posting this. This guy deserves a statue!
Them old cats had class and soul..FUNKY 4+1 ✌🏾
Big ups to these authentic interviews from the original sources!!!!
Hip hop legend right here it's like listening to the men that started jazz and rock n roll...tee la rock ..Scott la rock..nuff said.
Holy sh*t, Scott la rock got his name from coke la rock. I never made the connection. Mind blown 🤯
Great!
Yo..... as a brovah from the Boogie Down Bronx. born at Lincoln Hospital in the South Bronx, year 1973 and raised on the West Side. 169 Washington Ave, Webster Ave. I've Witnessed alot of these Jams and 1977 1978 thru the early 80s. IM STILL Proud and Grateful that had a Chanceto have witnessed Hip-hopat beginning stages..it's a Honor to hear the stories... I have Alot of Key Stories to tell Aswell... lol!!! I Really Enjoyed this Classic interview with one of the Greats , Coke La Rock.....Plus the B footage was On Point my brovah. . Zalute !!! Keep up the good work fam✊🏾💯🎤
You was at jams, at age four???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@randee4550 Damn you stay stalking FBA'S, I know y'all are extremely jealous and envious of us but this is ridiculous smh
@@melanatedwarrior3530 FBA can SMD
@@randee4550 It amazes how you're jealous and envious of FBA'S, While at the same time mimicking and appropriating our style. Poor guy LMFBAAO 🤣
@@melanatedwarrior3530 Fuck FBA
Yo this is some REAL good stuff!!! I was born in 72 and this stuff was going on even back then.
This was well needed... Thanks...
Salute
I recall a comedian talking about growing up in New York. He said that he never knew that his friends were foreigners until he went to their house and met their Mother.
I Agree absolutely, they only telling certain stories. It's the same thing with me. One of the 1st female MC Shorty Tee via Queens an entire history trying to omit.. Along with intellectual properties. I refuse to be silent. I MC'd in #1976 in North Carolina. Billy Woods Place. @waynetv
La Rock is a LEGEND! Salute!
Great Stuff!!$ I hope and wish to god that Coke La Rock will do his own documentary 🙏
The Puerto Ricans and Jamaicans never created any other music that was influenchal like black Americans who y'all think y'all fooling
They foolin the fools
@@johnjack902 THEY ARE THE FOOLS if they think folks are going to believe their goofy asses. They cared about the US sooooooooo much, they decided to bring their beggin' asses over here and gift us Hip Hop
@@johnjack902 FACTS!!!
You bugging bro, Reggae Music is international just like Hip Hop and Salsa is international just like Hip Hop. Both Reggae and Salsa were international before Hip Hop. Nothing got to be bigger then the other. Be respectful, or at least be knowledgeable and not ignorant
@@smezierThey don't know, excuse their ignorance.😂😂😂
Sounds to me like Herc was shady. Sounds like He brought 1-2 elements to the table and is taking credit for 10
He didn't even bring in two elements
He brought no elements
Herc was not being shady at all. It is just that people got the wrong impression of what it was that they did. It wasn't about bringing anything to the "table". There was no table to bring anything to at the time. What they did was play in a style that no one else was doing. Their style is what caught on and that style is what spread throughout the Bronx. It was mainly the records they played that no one else was playing that got the got crowds hyped. All I can say is that you had to be there to see the distinction between what they were doing and what other DJ's were doing. Cholly Rock explained it several times in different videos.
@@soulknob but, Cool D and Phase said that Herc copied their and Disco King Mario’s records, playing style and Sound system. In other words, they did hip hop before Herc. I’m not trying to argue for the sake of arguing, but a whole new side of the story about the origin has risen from the East Bronx and I just want to know which one is the truth and why Herc is the only one who get credit as the Father
@@hbsoltpk Kool Herc isn’t the only Father, this dude with DJ fake(phase) just trying to discredit Kool Herc bc he’s Jamaicans who gave flowers to other Jamaicans who Influenced him, Dj Mario own Mc said he told him he gonna get the same records like Kool Herc to get him started Like Herc mcee
I like how you put this together! "Mari-o-o-o-o!"
Dope NYC history love the 70s bless Coke La Rock
I went to JHS 82, Class of'90.... And was born in 1849 Sedgwick Ave...
HIP HOP BABY!!! 🅱️❌
Fire information 🔥
Great interview. I wish it was a part 2
Good stuff right here. appreciate the interview.
I like Coke mentioned the robot ha, ha, even James brown did the robot!! I did it back in the day ever since I first saw Campellockers on Carol Burnette 73 n Campbellocking I was hooked!!
Big Ups to Coke LA Rock ! Thanks my brother for sharing you're Talent with us ...! Live long Brah !
Shout out to coke la rock a legend in the game he next to my building 1050 sound view Bronx dale stan up!
This the New York I remember I don't know what's going on nowadays
Fun fact: The actor Russell Crowe started out as a singer called Russ La Rock.
Great interview! Keep up the good work on sharing to truth. Appreciate you brother. Peace ✌🏾
Coke La Rock is a legend ✊🏾
Great Interview 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Y’all hear it from the horses mouth. I told y’all The Last Poets are The Godfather of Hip Hop . Harlem and Philly 1969
And Felipe Luciano was in the last poets and he was Boricua 🇵🇷🗽
@@BoricuaNyc True but not a founding member
@@BoricuaNyc he didn't start nothing!! He was just a member
Step pops put me on the Last Poets as kid in late 70’s all dope material
@@stacytaylor4876 My uncle is a original member. He was rapping in the mid 60s Philadelphia then he moved to Harlem NY and met the other members of The Last Poets in 1969 . Melle Mel got his flow from my Uncle and many other rappers around 1974 on up
Coke La Rock!!!!!
😤Now, the Caribbeans (Herc, Bambaataa, and Flash) do NOT even mention HIS name and try to CUT HIM OUT OF HipHop.
So why is he in Krs1's lyric then?
Hip hop would never have materialise without Soundsystem .Mobile Sounds systems started in Jamaica in the 50s when migrants wanted to copy the Black American Shuffling Blues but couldn't not afford the Blues Artist to perform . In the late 60s Soundsytems were in Carolina and Queens , Brooklyn bought over by Carribean workers Sound men N DJs when they saw the Girls like the Rnb they switched to Rnb Dance later Disco when it got to the Bronxs they changed it to the Funk and Latin grooves and some Rock.. But Black Americans created Bronk Hip hop and not aware of Reggae . Its disgusting how Carribean are being demonised for bringing a positive to Black Rnb music . Which mostly created by Black Smericans from Carolina . The one thing apart from Reggae they did copy from Jamaicans was SOUNDSYTEM ....show a bit of respect instead of disrespecting Carribeans .If u feel like to argue with me I'm on face book .
@@davidcummings5984 Ya'll still pushing and living off that sound system lie?? That nonsense has been DEBUNKED and y'all still spewing it anyway. We don't need y'all, The influence has always been one way💯
Exactly!!! This is all by design. There has always been a concerted effort by the dominant society to make Non FBA's the face of our culture and these tethers don't have a problem going along with it, That's why they can't be trusted and it's time to Delineate from them.
@@davidcummings5984 🤦🏾♂️Saying that HipHop was created by Caribbeans is just as bad as saying Columbus discovered America... You're claiming credit for something people were ALREADY doing. Herc said himself, he was playing Black American Music for Black Americans trying to please Black Americans. Jamaica was a non-factor. Period.
Mannnn!!! I’m loving this history lesson!! This is part we all need to know..
I hope DJ Akademiks doesn't see this
Michael Waynetv: "it seems like(not even Herc) other people around, are trying to connect Jamaican culture to what he did."
Coke La Rock: I agree. I agree
Brother, that was eloquent. Very poignant; non-offensive,yet true.
This didn't invalidate Herc getting his style from Jamaican selectors. He was agreeing that alot of historians made claims that the pioneers themselves never validated. This interview doesn't invalidate Kool Herc like y'all was hoping it would
@@sioul8485 FBA's trying too hard to exclude Jamaican influence in hip hop
@@tonytuffers this interview solidified the story thats been told over the years. Coke acknowledges Mario but he doesn’t say that Mario was doin it before him and herc and he doesnt admit to him and Herc copying other people. Plus coke la rock said throughout the interview he can only speak for himself and he pays homage to his right hand man Herc on NUMEROUS occasions throughout the interview. these idiots didnt watch the interview
@@tonytuffers I agree it's kindve embarrassing cause Jamaicans don't never make any claims to Hip hop .But where they let themselves down is Soundsystem , Disco , that's the core of Hip hop .
@@sioul8485 herc himself has already invalidated the narrative. These are Herc's exact words:
Q - What sort of year is that?
Herc - We’re talking about 1969.
Q - When did you start to get involved in it?
Herc - I started to get involved in it right after my house got burned down. I was going to parties back then, see. A place called the Tunnel and a place called the Puzzle, right on 161st Street - that was the first disco I used to party at. Me, guys like Phase 2, Stay High, Sweet Duke, Lionel 163 - all the early graffiti writers - used to come through there. It’s where we used to meet up and party at.
Then, years later, [there was this club] called Disco Fever. Disco Fever used to be right here on 167th. But before Disco Fever there was the Puzzle. That was the first Bronx disco.
Q - So back then you still weren’t playing?
Herc - I was dancing, I was partying. Right around 1970, I’m in high school.
Q - That was when b-boying was starting.
Herc- Yeah, people were dancing, but they weren’t calling it b-boying. That was just the break, and people would go off. My terms came in after I started to play - I called them b-boys. Guys just used to breakdance… Right then, slang was in, and we shortened words down. Instead of disrespect, you know, you dissed me. That’s where that came from.
Q - Who was the DJ in the Puzzle?
Herc - You never used to see him, they was in a room. But the guys in the Tunnel, I knew them. This guy named John Brown, he used to go to my school - Alfred E. Smith. It’s a store now, ain’t no club no more. Now it’s a shoe store.
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In summary, Herc flat out said HipHop was going on years before he was even a DJ! He said he saw bboys at the Tunnel Plaza in 1970 with DJ John Brown playing breaks!!! How can you be start of something you witnessed 3 years before you were even a DJ? Make it make sense lol
THIS IS GOLD!
Interview kool herc
We need a Dj Smokey interview
facts
How cooll would it be, to let CLR do his thing one more time. The oldschool way, with the best bboys from nyc. I would die to see that.
I understand his frustration
What’s interesting is during the interviews I’ve notices when they speak of they history they always say jr.high,highschool etc. but don’t directly give the dates you have to ask dates. From what I’m seeing the dates are important, pics are important, when n if you had flyers are important. Documenting is important. Sometimes we as a people are not always good at documenting are history then a photographer comes n takes many pics then want to do a book or documentary about are culture. Most of the time they are not us. That’s how it gets all twisted we don’t nip it in the bud from the beginning. Big ups to Shabazz though for giving us a small window to our culture. Wish we had the same documentation skills on Westcoast in L. A.
When you analyze the 1968 song Here Comes the Judge by Pigmeat Markham you hear MCing with Cadence, storytelling, Funk beats n Break Beats, clearly placed Hooks, interludes And Skits... The bridge is over beginning even sounds similar with singular snare hits and 1 crash cymbal hit.. FBA all day
Your a legend Big Bruh 👏🏾. You connected all the dots. All the stuff he said the dudes from Bronxdale confirmed what he said and added earlier perspectives. You did yo hood justice Bruh Bruh. If Tariq make a movie and you ain't Involved it's not gonna be official.
Yo for real I second that.
I did all of this years ago. I carefully researched interviews and quotes from the very first rappers from real hip hop historians like Jay Quan and realised this all lead to Coke La Rock, The Last Poets and Pigmeat Markham. I knew that Jamaican toasting theory was bullshit da whole time it never made sense to me at all especially once I concluded my research of the facts.
@@ogwilliams8068 I never even knew that Jamaicans was even toasting at all. Let alone heard one do it. My Pops was a street dude born in 52 I always knew Pimps and Street Cats invented toasting.
Yeah, most people don’t know us FBA had our own form of toasting that goes back. Rudy Ray Moore took his name “Dolemite” from an old toast.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 yeah I'm fully aware of it. I read that in a 1993 issue of The Source describing Jailhouse toasts among black inmates in the American prison syustem going back to the 1930s.
Update: based on the information I just received coke la rock is indeed telling the truth. The video from a year ago was vlad lying on the origins of hip-hop he just made it seem as if coke la rock agreed. It's important that coke la rock and dj phase continue to spread the truth to counter dj vlads lies! As well as fat Joe and others who lie on the origins of hip-hop
Wtf? Hip hop was a evolution of of what was going on in the bx in that time yall way to simple minded to understand it.
@@bangswift the comment I left addresses Vladimir lying about hip-hop, vlad said "hip-hop came from Jamaica and other races of people". Which is a lie, Vladimir tried to set coke la rock up by pulling him into his agenda! He made it seem as if coke la rock was telling that lie but he wasn't.
It's not a hard debate. Black radio DJ's from the states toasted/rhymed, whichever you prefer, in between the music at the advent of radio. Of course, it also showed up on records as well. Sir Coxson Dodd, U-Roy, and Machukie, from Jamaica have gone on record (interviews) and admitted that's where they learned to toast. The problem is, the pioneers of Hip-Hop failed to acknowledge early rhymes/toasting over music and argue it's not the same. So, don't be mad when others come along and claim what you started because the pioneers wanted to create a narrative that Hip-Hop started in a vacuum in the Bronx. Go listen to Louis Jordan's "It's Gotta Have a Beat", Bo Diddley's "Say Man", Cab Calloway's"Jungle KIng", Georgie Woods "Potato Salad Pt 1 and 2" where he toasts over Louis Jordan's Greasy Greens, well over 20 years before the Sugar Hill Gang rapped over Chic's Good Times. Listen to James Brown and the JB's toast, shouting Georgie Woods out on "Brother Let's Stick Together". I respect Coke -La-Rock, but the first to talk over prerecorded music, naw... It's way too many radio and club DJ's doing that from the 40's-70's like Hot Rod Hubert, Jocko Henderson, Paul "Fat Daddy" Johnson, Freddie Crocker and the list goes on... As for the disrespect to those from the Caribbean, that needs to stop. It's unnecessary. If we know anything about our past, we know better. Stay up!
Disrespect is going to be given when Disrespect is taken. When atleast 3 Major Hip-hop artists with West Indian lineages publicly go on RECORD in interviews saying they invented our culture and FBA'S have NO culture. Before we said anything disparaging about them. Tensions are going to arise. Them leaving Tweets and Tik Tok posts trashing FBA'S FIRST is going to issue alot of Blowback. If you think Nicky Minaj disrespecting El Haj Malik Shabazz and not apologizing is funny there's something wrong with you not the rest of us. So if we start telling the truth about the Caribbean and they feel offended. SO WHO CARES.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 I wouldn't invalidate your perspective. In fact, I saw one of your previous post on the other segment with Coke -La-Rock, which I think you did an excellent job making your argument and providing facts. My argument is that the historical origins could have been set straight if the pioneering DJ's and Emcees could have given credit to those who were rhyming and rapping between breaks way before the 70's in the states. The last part of my post regarding the disrespect comes from a place of seeing misdirected tension on both sides. I still have family who have no desire to go north because of how some Black northerners show disdain for Black southerners. Nor am I oblivious to the tension between those who come from the Caribbean. But they beef with each other too. On another note, GM Flash in his autobiography credits Pete DJ Jones for showing him how to mix and blend. I can't say that I heard Herc disrespect Black America, but Bam has tried to insert a Caribbean connection with Hip-Hop. I think you are referring to Busta and Pete Rock. That's why I said in the first sentence, it's not a hard debate. No matter what they say, it can't be disputed. The evidence of "where" and "who" is documented.
@@cimarronreed7556 I see your point Bruh but you know as well as I do when people say North or East Coast they mean NYC not Philly, Chicago,Detroit,Buffalo, Cleveland or Baltimore. The one City that looks down on the South the Most is because it's filled with TETHERS meaning People who look like us trying to steal our lifestyle by dressing and talking like us but are slightly off. They have infiltrated our circles because we were the first to believe in Pan-Africanism we taught Marcus Garvey at a HBCU. They were bringing half FBA half Caribbean dudes down south to talk their FBA cousins into letting them get some money. After a week they would go back to NYC and bring a Crew of big city Caribbeans to terrorize the little country towns. That's why they don't get along to this day. DC damn near had to do a ethnic cleansing to get their City Back. It's very insidious in hindsight.
@@lroyjetsonson5060 Honestly, I foresee another Rwanda where no one benefits from it but Western power's. The very same people who got us in this mess. Once we begin to hurl ethnic insults, we minimize one another's Blackness and humanity. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to be insulted, but in this instance, what's the outcome and what's gained? I just think as Black folks, there's a better way to address the issue. I was called a tether because I agreed with a sister from Jamaica who blamed Jamaicans for not understanding Black America's plight. He told me, he knows a tether when he sees one, with laughing emojis. Now, if he's convinced, do I have to rock my family tree around my neck? All I'm saying is, other Black people have no bearing on how I live, but white domination and white supremacy does.
@@cimarronreed7556 You either don't have a clue or you are willfully ignorant if it's a Rwanda they started it for trying to flex under the guise of free speech. When the Caribbean gangs in the late 70's and early 80's were shooting our people for playing Hip-hop at their parties in NYC and Boston you wasn't talking about Rwanda. I gave you the DC example. Them calling people from Downsouth slow when they were traveling on mules and coppin squats in the Streets not even using outhouses before they got here. How do you figure a solution when I personally heard some Africans on Clubhouse talking about buying guns and killing FBA'S. So either I'm lying or I'm not 🤔.
Great video!!!
I have a feeling this is the brother that Akademics was referring to.
Akademics needs to apologize for what he said. He is eating off of what these cats innovated.
😂🤣🤣🤣
Well I'm in my 60s from Bed-Stuy Brooklyn and we was doing the same thing they were doing in the Bronx. DJing with Music in the streets along with Project Center parties but the first brother I heard rapping from the Bronx was DJ Hollywood and nobody seems to mention him??
The difference between what Herc and them did and what everyone else was doing is the style of play and their presentation. They were cool AF and the records with the break parts was mesmerizing. No one else was rocking those records. Cholly Rock said as much on this channel.
They never mention DJ Tex Hollywood because he’s Boricua🇵🇷🗽
Thanks!!!!!
Every rapper over a certain tax bracket should pay $100 a month for the innovative architects of Hip Hop because they missed the boat but still should be recognized only the true pioneer's who help create,set the style,and made this thing from poverty a global sensation 🎤🎧🌎🎵💰
That was very informative. Where's the link to his merch?
Kelly J. Monroe... good question I will ask him
I was known as COKE 3 from the LES I went to school with Stay high 149.
I was living and spittin they called it rappin...
That's the legend
I loved on Jesup...up that long as hill..then down the block..then up 5 flights, damn!!! Went to Taft too.
Lived on Jesup.
Most definitely Americans black culture
Them Puerto 🇵🇷 was around
We all grow up together
It went out both times when y'all said they year. How is it possible?
Don Catalog because Coke La Rock may have been mistaken with the year... so we didn't wanna put out the wrong year ... so it was muted
Because they lying 🤥
WHY YALL EDITED OUT THE YEAR@8:18?
Aye that movie GOAT was the GOAT.
Who said that on the internet about Kool Herc bought toasting? Everybody know Herc didn't rhyme. Herc always said he created the Merry-go-round. People listening wrong. Kurtis Blow said there were two types of people at the same time. The young people followed Herc & Coke La Rock. Everyone said this.
Nah, if you read some of the book/articles about Rap/HipHop, they said that Herc brought toasting from Jamaica and started Rap music. Those same books also say that Coke La Rock was a fellow Jamaican. See picture below from one of those books:
i.imgur.com/lVNxPUL.jpg
@@hiphophistorian5476 But Herc never said it. Coke La Rock never said it.
@@doncatalog But Herc stayed quiet and let people run with that false info for more than 30 years. Coke hardly ever got interviewed, so it was impossible for him to correct the false narrative that he was Jamaican that was publish over and over in these hiphop history books/articles
Herc and Coke was on the mic all the time. They weren't rapping to the beat as people might imagine. They were saying a lot of cool stuff while they played the music. It sounded very poetic and clever. They were "that crew" you had to go see. They were different. DJ Hollywood and people like him were saying rhymes to the beat. Basic stuff like Jack and Jill went up the hill to have a little fun, stupid Jill forgot the pill and now they got a son. Herc and them wasn't doing that.
@@soulknob Thanks fam! I'm writing a book, I will quote you!!!!!
Kool herc era in jamaica sound system uses two turntales and mixers
no question Herc revolutionized how the breaks were played back to back so b boys could do their thing, but FLASH then revolutionized what Herc did so RAPPERS could flow seamlessly over the breaks....
Isn't Herc a DJ (Disc Jockey)? I thought he was only a DJ who played other people music or beats. Did he also created music or beats or break for people to dance to or rap over? Where can I go to listen to his creations?
@@lynnm2227 wasn’t Phase and Mario just dj’s as well? What beats or rhymes did they create and again you are disputing what this brother quoted directly from the description of this very video so you should probably direct that energy at the creator if this content.
@@napoleongee172 I do not have to agree with this video. Please Google looping (choppping) and sampling (beat-slicing), it is technique that has been used in the USA with music since the 1940s. Looping is a technique use to orderly and seamlessly repeat the same pattern from an existing song. Sampling is slicing a portions of an existing song. Both technique have been used since the 40s. I have never known anyone make a big deal out of looping or repeating pattern from someone else music. Herc looped the drum section of existing songs. People were already doing this. Are they saying DJ Herc created new music or beats that every rapper or rap song incorporate into their music? Did he create his own beats that are being used in all rap music? Is the drum beats he looped being used in all rap music? Where can I found are listen to these beats? Maybe he should get credit for contributing something. I am just not sure what it is. All DJs loop music.
@@lynnm2227 So then by your logic none of these brothers are true innovators bc Mario and Tyrone and those brothers were just Dj’s as well right they didn’t make any songs or anything like that breaks etc right? What your equating to looping or sampling was used in direct production or live stage productions. So just for clarification Herc was nothing but a participant and nothing he did REVOLUTIONIZED HIP HOP?
@@lynnm2227 wait didn’t you say the video didnt contradict your comment and now you saying you don’t have to agree with it 😂😂 So you know more than the brothers that were there or wait lemme guess you were there too….
I never see them talking about Coke La Rock always DJ Kool Herc 🤔